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Post by hartyhtfc on Jun 2, 2023 10:00:17 GMT 1
I loved VLP, shame it hasn't worked out for him anywhere else since he left. I'd have even kept him before he was let go too.
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Post by CowshedJack on Jun 2, 2023 10:06:12 GMT 1
To be fair, if I got called up to represent my country at 23 I’d have probably acted like a dickhead as well. I’ve got all the time if he wants to crack on with his football and make up for mistakes, if anyone can get a tune out of that personality, it’s Neil Warnock, look at Koroma. If he still thinks he’s a premier league player then he can jog on, no time for people rowing the other way after everything that happened with the Danes in the PL. I've seen this cited on here before, but from what I saw the Danes weren't the ones who downed tools and/or were too shit for League 1, never mind the PL. Zanka, Billing and Lossl I wouldn't have said threw in the towel, more ginger dwarf, speed twins and TK, among others. Or did I miss something? I think it was that they spoke to the Danish media and said they wanted to leave before the season was even over. How can you turn up and try and put in a performance when you’re talking about leaving the club if you get a chance. |
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Post by k1man999 on Jun 2, 2023 10:07:36 GMT 1
To be fair, if I got called up to represent my country at 23 I’d have probably acted like a dickhead as well. I’ve got all the time if he wants to crack on with his football and make up for mistakes, if anyone can get a tune out of that personality, it’s Neil Warnock, look at Koroma. If he still thinks he’s a premier league player then he can jog on, no time for people rowing the other way after everything that happened with the Danes in the PL. I've seen this cited on here before, but from what I saw the Danes weren't the ones who downed tools and/or were too shit for League 1, never mind the PL. Zanka, Billing and Lossl I wouldn't have said threw in the towel, more ginger dwarf, speed twins and TK, among others. Or did I miss something? Think the Danes got blamed for a few things mainly because we wanted them out to get the transfer fees and wages off the books They always looked to try and if attitude was poor why bring lossl back. Think phill did state he wanted to stay in prem but he was probably our best player the last season hence he got that move. |
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Post by mosher on Jun 2, 2023 10:11:44 GMT 1
I've seen this cited on here before, but from what I saw the Danes weren't the ones who downed tools and/or were too shit for League 1, never mind the PL. Zanka, Billing and Lossl I wouldn't have said threw in the towel, more ginger dwarf, speed twins and TK, among others. Or did I miss something? I think it was that they spoke to the Danish media and said they wanted to midway before the season was even over. How can you turn up and try and put in a performance when you’re talking about leaving the club if you get a chance. Aaah, didn't know about that. I knew Lossl had done some kind of interview, but didn't think he stopped playing because of it and never noticed a drop in Zanka or Billing's performances. Well, no more than anybody else anyway, and certainly a lot less than some already mentioned  |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jun 2, 2023 10:12:17 GMT 1
Ahaha, I was mostly joking with the comparison to Sean Scannell. However, I do think VLP was incredibly overrated. Poor stats, poor final ball and poor attitude tbh. There’s a reason the clubs he played for when he left have been second and third tier of Germany, Spain and Greece, when he can even get into their teams. The way people bang on about him; you’d have thought it was Ronaldo cutting down the wing. VLP’s attitude was never a problem at town, liked by the club, players and managers alike. The myth he didn’t track back and was lazy was complete and utter bollocks, he worked his arse off. |
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Post by CowshedJack on Jun 2, 2023 10:17:02 GMT 1
Ahaha, I was mostly joking with the comparison to Sean Scannell. However, I do think VLP was incredibly overrated. Poor stats, poor final ball and poor attitude tbh. There’s a reason the clubs he played for when he left have been second and third tier of Germany, Spain and Greece, when he can even get into their teams. The way people bang on about him; you’d have thought it was Ronaldo cutting down the wing. VLP’s attitude was never a problem at town, liked by the club, players and managers alike. The myth he didn’t track back and was lazy was complete and utter bollocks, he worked his arse off. Not that you’re biased as president of the fan club? 😉 |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jun 2, 2023 10:17:53 GMT 1
VLP’s attitude was never a problem at town, liked by the club, players and managers alike. The myth he didn’t track back and was lazy was complete and utter bollocks, he worked his arse off. Not that you’re biased as president of the fan club? 😉 Never  I’ll agree he was frustrating, lacked end product at times and he was far from perfect but we’ve not had a better winger since him and I’ll die on that hill. |
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Post by CowshedJack on Jun 2, 2023 10:19:11 GMT 1
I've seen this cited on here before, but from what I saw the Danes weren't the ones who downed tools and/or were too shit for League 1, never mind the PL. Zanka, Billing and Lossl I wouldn't have said threw in the towel, more ginger dwarf, speed twins and TK, among others. Or did I miss something? Think the Danes got blamed for a few things mainly because we wanted them out to get the transfer fees and wages off the books They always looked to try and if attitude was poor why bring lossl back. Think phill did state he wanted to stay in prem but he was probably our best player the last season hence he got that move. Had to bring Lossl back otherwise we’d have lost every game 10 nil as our keepers were awful that season. |
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Post by k1man999 on Jun 2, 2023 10:20:02 GMT 1
VLP mentioned as a frustrating player,which is true.However Sorba isn't a fraction of the player in comparison VLP. The only player who’s lifted me out of my seat in many a year of watching Town. I feel more like this with koroma n hungbo as you expect an end product Those who say Thomas can't beat a man etc Under CC he did beat his man and got some good crosses across the box but either ward and the midfield were still in the centre circle or ward was marked by three men with not another town player in sight If it is Warnock think he will thrive if he does as he is instructed. |
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Post by CowshedJack on Jun 2, 2023 10:20:22 GMT 1
Not that you’re biased as president of the fan club? 😉 Never I’ll agree he was frustrating, lacked end product at times and he was far from perfect but we’ve not had a better winger since him and I’ll die on that hill. One word: Diakhaby. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 2, 2023 10:54:56 GMT 1
I liked them both. They were both characters and entertainers, something sadly lacking in the game these days. I'll never forget VLP going down like he'd been shot right in front of Mourinho at Old Trafford. Hilarious. might be a different incident from the same game here, but one of the funniest things I've seen in football was VLP going down like that and staying down for a good 10 seconds, then springing back onto his feet when the ball came near him! |
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 2, 2023 11:56:46 GMT 1
VLP. The only player who’s lifted me out of my seat in many a year of watching Town. VLP has to be the most overrated town player ever. A poor man’s Sean Scannell, he’s scored 11 goals and got 13 assists in 9 years ffs. That’s in 200 games! He couldn’t score or assist in the Greek second division. He had absolutely no end product and his goal against West Brom was an absolute fluke. I will die on this hill. He'd be a RICH mans Sean Scannell surely? |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 2, 2023 14:34:42 GMT 1
To be fair, if I got called up to represent my country at 23 I’d have probably acted like a dickhead as well. I’ve got all the time if he wants to crack on with his football and make up for mistakes, if anyone can get a tune out of that personality, it’s Neil Warnock, look at Koroma. If he still thinks he’s a premier league player then he can jog on, no time for people rowing the other way after everything that happened with the Danes in the PL. I've seen this cited on here before, but from what I saw the Danes weren't the ones who downed tools and/or were too shit for League 1, never mind the PL. Zanka, Billing and Lossl I wouldn't have said threw in the towel, more ginger dwarf, speed twins and TK, among others. Or did I miss something? No. It’s exactly how I saw it. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 2, 2023 14:37:21 GMT 1
Not that you’re biased as president of the fan club? 😉 Never I’ll agree he was frustrating, lacked end product at times and he was far from perfect but we’ve not had a better winger since him and I’ll die on that hill. Me too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 15:08:40 GMT 1
VLP scored more than 11 in Holland before he got to us
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Post by omegasupreme on Jun 3, 2023 23:57:40 GMT 1
Not that you’re biased as president of the fan club? 😉 Never I’ll agree he was frustrating, lacked end product at times and he was far from perfect but we’ve not had a better winger since him and I’ll die on that hill. End product - useless. Work rate - phenomenal. Team contribution - phenomenal. Probably the best winger I’ve seen at town. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 4, 2023 8:28:02 GMT 1
Never I’ll agree he was frustrating, lacked end product at times and he was far from perfect but we’ve not had a better winger since him and I’ll die on that hill. End product - useless. Work rate - phenomenal. Team contribution - phenomenal. Probably the best winger I’ve seen at town. Did you become a fan in 2015? Did you not see Roberts, Pilks, Thornley... I did rate VLP but to have him as the best winger you have ever seen, you can't have seen many games!! |
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 4, 2023 8:55:23 GMT 1
I loved VLP, shame it hasn't worked out for him anywhere else since he left. I'd have even kept him before he was let go too. Pushing for a move away, wasn't he? Red Star Belgrade were offering European football as well TBF. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 4, 2023 9:08:15 GMT 1
If he can return to the player he was up to xmas under Corboran, then yeah he can be a big part of our team. If hes the player he was last season then he wont get in it.Its down to him. No one else made him crap all last season and no one else will make him be worth having again. Who would we play in his position instead? From our current squad he's one of only two recognised first team wingers (and the other is Mahoney!), so unless you're putting a kid in there, or playing someone out of position then he would get in the team as it stands. Of course, you could play without wingers and have wing backs instead, but that just moves the question again. A kid or someone out of position (Turton will still be out at the start of the season). |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 4, 2023 11:37:56 GMT 1
End product - useless. Work rate - phenomenal. Team contribution - phenomenal. Probably the best winger I’ve seen at town. Did you become a fan in 2015? Did you not see Roberts, Pilks, Thornley... I did rate VLP but to have him as the best winger you have ever seen, you can't have seen many games!! Never got the hype with Thornley |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jun 4, 2023 11:51:08 GMT 1
Did you become a fan in 2015? Did you not see Roberts, Pilks, Thornley... I did rate VLP but to have him as the best winger you have ever seen, you can't have seen many games!! Never got the hype with Thornley He was great on loan but average at best when he signed permanently. VLP was certainly better than Roberts. And I think Roberts was decent but he was only playing In league one. VLP was a key part of the best town team I have ever seen. Pilks is a hard one. When he was good he was very good but people forget how inconsistent he was. For town I would say VLP was better but Pilks had a better career. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 4, 2023 12:18:34 GMT 1
Injury did for Thornley. Never fully recovered from the tackle that put him of Man Utd. Good player, but he was quicker before he got knobbled.
He was down to non-league football by 29.
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Post by rockwall on Jun 4, 2023 12:38:53 GMT 1
Never got the hype with Thornley He was great on loan but average at best when he signed permanently. VLP was certainly better than Roberts. And I think Roberts was decent but he was only playing In league one. VLP was a key part of the best town team I have ever seen. Pilks is a hard one. When he was good he was very good but people forget how inconsistent he was. For town I would say VLP was better but Pilks had a better career. Don't understand how VLP was certainly better than Roberts? Doesn't matter about leagues, it is where the club is at that point. It is like saying Depoitre was better than Rhodes because Rhodes played in League 1. Roberts had an end product. VLP didn't. Both players could get you out of your seats, that's a given. VLP has strength and pace, but was a one trick pony, stepover and a shot. I know 2 or 3 ended in the back of the net, but most went into row Z. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 4, 2023 12:58:40 GMT 1
He was great on loan but average at best when he signed permanently. VLP was certainly better than Roberts. And I think Roberts was decent but he was only playing In league one. VLP was a key part of the best town team I have ever seen. Pilks is a hard one. When he was good he was very good but people forget how inconsistent he was. For town I would say VLP was better but Pilks had a better career. Don't understand how VLP was certainly better than Roberts? Doesn't matter about leagues, it is where the club is at that point. It is like saying Depoitre was better than Rhodes because Rhodes played in League 1. Roberts had an end product. VLP didn't. Both players could get you out of your seats, that's a given. VLP has strength and pace, but was a one trick pony, stepover and a shot. I know 2 or 3 ended in the back of the net, but most went into row Z. [ Totally get your point. But I’d add that GR didn’t even get close to VLP’s workrate, closing down and working back for the good of the team - to the detriment of being able to always show his skills in forward areas. He was also an excellent ball carrier, essential work for the team he played in. He was highly skilled and had excellent close control- he used to display intricate footwork in tight areas and I recall witnessing many of these. Much more to his game than GR who was pedestrian in comparison. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 4, 2023 13:12:20 GMT 1
Don't understand how VLP was certainly better than Roberts? Doesn't matter about leagues, it is where the club is at that point. It is like saying Depoitre was better than Rhodes because Rhodes played in League 1. Roberts had an end product. VLP didn't. Both players could get you out of your seats, that's a given. VLP has strength and pace, but was a one trick pony, stepover and a shot. I know 2 or 3 ended in the back of the net, but most went into row Z. [ Totally get your point. But I’d add that GR didn’t even get close to VLP’s workrate, closing down and working back for the good of the team - to the detriment of being able to always show his skills in forward areas. He was also an excellent ball carrier, essential work for the team he played in. He was highly skilled and had excellent close control- he used to display intricate footwork in tight areas and I recall witnessing many of these. Much more to his game than GR who was pedestrian in comparison. I agree regarding the work rate and getting back, but in the Roberts era we attacked at will. We didn't play a way where we needed to defend as a priority. With VLP we did. Maybe it held VLP back a little. |
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Post by pinstripe on Jun 4, 2023 13:37:26 GMT 1
I love how this thread now has almost nothing to do with Sorba Thomas
VLP was a hurricane, sometimes you said wow look at him go! Sometimes he left you without electricity for three days.
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Post by willo on Jun 4, 2023 15:25:51 GMT 1
As with all wingers, they blow hot and cold. 3 or 4 decent games followed by half a dozen less than average games, ‘twas always the case.
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Post by rugbyterrier on Jun 4, 2023 16:06:12 GMT 1
As with all wingers, they blow hot and cold. 3 or 4 decent games followed by half a dozen less than average games, ‘twas always the case. Stanley Matthews? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 4, 2023 16:19:32 GMT 1
As with all wingers, they blow hot and cold. 3 or 4 decent games followed by half a dozen less than average games, ‘twas always the case. Stanley Matthews? Who knows ? Not many left that will have seen him play. |
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Post by sabailand on Jun 4, 2023 16:32:39 GMT 1
Injury did for Thornley. Never fully recovered from the tackle that put him of Man Utd. Good player, but he was quicker before he got knobbled. He was down to non-league football by 29. Recently read his autobiography, not a bad read but nothing you haven't read before in a biography..womanising drinking etc, one horror tackle by Nicky Marker in a reserve game v Blackburn changed his footballing career, cited as possibly the best of the class of 92 batch, he had a lot of time for Peter Jackson, i quite liked him but was a bit short tempered and got unnecessary bookings. |
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