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Post by omegasupreme on Jun 4, 2023 19:55:22 GMT 1
End product - useless. Work rate - phenomenal. Team contribution - phenomenal. Probably the best winger I’ve seen at town. Did you become a fan in 2015? Did you not see Roberts, Pilks, Thornley... I did rate VLP but to have him as the best winger you have ever seen, you can't have seen many games!! Loved Roberts but he was doing his thing in League One and let’s not forget, he was seldom deemed good enough for the Championship throughout most of his career (I don’t agree but it’s true). VLP played in the PL.. Pilkington - thought he was a bit over hyped personally. Never did it on the big occasions. And again it was league 1. Thornley - I’m assuming you are referring to loan spell Ben Thornley because he pretty poor when he became permanent. Ps loan spell Ben Thornely - you might have a point. Ok so I’ll say “VLP - best winger I’ve seen at town in last 30 years or so”. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Jun 4, 2023 20:37:13 GMT 1
It wont affect Thomas, he will be telling everyone its Page's fault for not picking him, Thomas's little bit of fame has gone right to the lads head. Someone i respect, who knows his stuff about Town said and i quote "since the wales call up, sorba, has become a complete idiot". He said a lot of the players didn't want him around in the end, not just the coaching team. His ego is out of control. Unfortunately I heard the same about his time at Blackburn. Probably the only person that could sort his head is Warnock. But will it be Warnock - none of us know. My guess would be not. But everybody deserves a second chance - it’s upto to Sorba if he wants to take it. I know ow a relative of MP that knows sweet FA about football. But he told me MP had "had a Welsh player 'up against the wall', for being a Billy big bollox" I assumed that was Thomas, and it fits with other's comments |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 4, 2023 22:41:29 GMT 1
Unfortunately I heard the same about his time at Blackburn. Probably the only person that could sort his head is Warnock. But will it be Warnock - none of us know. My guess would be not. But everybody deserves a second chance - it’s upto to Sorba if he wants to take it. I know ow a relative of MP that knows sweet FA about football. But he told me MP had "had a Welsh player 'up against the wall', for being a Billy big bollox" I assumed that was Thomas, and it fits with other's comments Outrageous behaviour by an MP. You should report him. |
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Post by mosher on Jun 5, 2023 8:33:48 GMT 1
Injury did for Thornley. Never fully recovered from the tackle that put him of Man Utd. Good player, but he was quicker before he got knobbled. He was down to non-league football by 29. Recently read his autobiography, not a bad read but nothing you haven't read before in a biography..womanising drinking etc, one horror tackle by Nicky Marker in a reserve game v Blackburn changed his footballing career, cited as possibly the best of the class of 92 batch, he had a lot of time for Peter Jackson, i quite liked him but was a bit short tempered and got unnecessary bookings. And was a regular at nightclubs throughout Kirklees. As my cousin Becky can testify  |
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Post by ram on Jun 5, 2023 10:40:58 GMT 1
Who knows ? Not many left that will have seen him play. Saw him tear Ray Wilson a good one at Leeds Road. |
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Post by yellowbelly on Jun 5, 2023 14:43:31 GMT 1
It was the other way around in his comeback for Stoke City. Stan had to change positions. Brilliant was Ray that day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2023 14:25:08 GMT 1
Latest post on Insta with a personal trainer, doing his sharpness skills. No club training gear.
Clearly selling himself, but is it to Warnock or touting himself for a move?
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jun 7, 2023 14:29:01 GMT 1
Latest post on Insta with a personal trainer, doing his sharpness skills. No club training gear. Clearly selling himself, but is it to Warnock or touting himself for a move? Most players will be with personal private trainers, completely normal and absolutely nothing in it. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 7, 2023 14:37:04 GMT 1
Latest post on Insta with a personal trainer, doing his sharpness skills. No club training gear. Clearly selling himself, but is it to Warnock or touting himself for a move? When he first signed he came back to pre-season early to get a head start under Carlos. Hopefully he's doing the same this season to show Warnock he's hungry and ready to fight for his place. |
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 7, 2023 17:13:10 GMT 1
Latest post on Insta with a personal trainer, doing his sharpness skills. No club training gear. Clearly selling himself, but is it to Warnock or touting himself for a move? Most players will be with personal private trainers, completely normal and absolutely nothing in it. 100%, there will be loads like this now out of contract Millwall player, Tyler Burey, training in a Town shirt...absolutely nothing in it. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 12, 2023 12:47:20 GMT 1
Southampton apparently want £52m for their set piece specialist that doesn't do much else 🤨
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Post by benhomly on Jun 12, 2023 12:52:15 GMT 1
Southampton apparently want £52m for their set piece specialist that doesn't do much else 🤨 On that basis Sorba is probably worth about £52k. I was hoping we'd get at least £2m. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 12, 2023 13:05:51 GMT 1
Southampton apparently want £52m for their set piece specialist that doesn't do much else 🤨 Never seen Sorba score a free kick. Wouldn't say Sorba is a set piece specialist. More of a corner/non direct free kick specialist. |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jun 12, 2023 13:06:37 GMT 1
Southampton apparently want £52m for their set piece specialist that doesn't do much else 🤨 Never seen Sorba score a free kick. Wouldn't say Sorba is a set piece specialist. More of a corner/non direct free kick specialist.both of those are set pieces |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 12, 2023 13:06:54 GMT 1
Southampton apparently want £52m for their set piece specialist that doesn't do much else 🤨 Never seen Sorba score a free kick. Wouldn't say Sorba is a set piece specialist. More of a corner/non direct free kick specialist. Aren't corners, and any free kick, set pieces ? |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jun 12, 2023 13:07:38 GMT 1
Never seen Sorba score a free kick. Wouldn't say Sorba is a set piece specialist. More of a corner/non direct free kick specialist. Aren't corners, and any free kick, set pieces ? slowcoach |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 12, 2023 13:08:34 GMT 1
Aren't corners, and any free kick, set pieces ? slowcoach It's my age, mate 😁 |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 12, 2023 13:09:23 GMT 1
Never seen Sorba score a free kick. Wouldn't say Sorba is a set piece specialist. More of a corner/non direct free kick specialist.both of those are set pieces My wording was wrong, but to put him in the same bracket as JWP is bizarre. So basically Sorba isn't a set piece specialist then as he can't take direct free kicks. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 12, 2023 13:17:05 GMT 1
both of those are set pieces My wording was wrong, but to put him in the same bracket as JWP is bizarre. So basically Sorba isn't a set piece specialist then as he can't take direct free kicks. So why did we score so many from his free kicks and deliveries. It's not bizarre, both provide nothing to their teams other than special plays. If it was like American football you could just wheel them on for the set piece then take them off again. The difference is WP's are usually attempts on goal, ST'S are deliveries into the area. |
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 12, 2023 13:32:50 GMT 1
Southampton apparently want £52m for their set piece specialist that doesn't do much else 🤨 Wow. Cant see anyone paying that. Although you never know. But id expect anyone with that much money to spend would want someone who contributes more during the 90s mins every week than someone who scores a worldy freekick every 4 or 5 games |
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Post by Tiro on Jun 12, 2023 14:02:50 GMT 1
Most players will be with personal private trainers, completely normal and absolutely nothing in it. 100%, there will be loads like this now out of contract Millwall player, Tyler Burey, training in a Town shirt...absolutely nothing in it. Just to add some context. Burey is good mates with Rudoni (hence the Rundoni shirt) from their time at AFC Wimbledon. |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jun 12, 2023 14:21:53 GMT 1
Southampton apparently want £52m for their set piece specialist that doesn't do much else 🤨 Wow. Cant see anyone paying that. Although you never know. But id expect anyone with that much money to spend would want someone who contributes more during the 90s mins every week than someone who scores a worldy freekick every 4 or 5 games There speaks someone who's never seen James Ward-Prowse play. Let's compare him to Mason Mount, who apparently Man U are about to pay in the region of 65/70 million to buy Last season: Goals per match - JWP 0.24 MM 0.13 Shooting accuracy - JWP 45% MM 27% Passes per match - JWP 50.53 MM 29.38 Cross accuracy - JWP 29% MM 23% Tackle success - JWP 57% MM 58% Interceptions per game - JWP 1.44 MM 0.33 Duels won per game - JWP 3.55 MM 3.54 Aerial battles won per game - JWP 1.15 MM 0.37 (by the way, MM is 3" taller) JWP is a very, very good player. Much more than a set piece specialist. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 12, 2023 14:29:20 GMT 1
Wow. Cant see anyone paying that. Although you never know. But id expect anyone with that much money to spend would want someone who contributes more during the 90s mins every week than someone who scores a worldy freekick every 4 or 5 games There speaks someone who's never seen James Ward-Prowse play. Let's compare him to Mason Mount, who apparently Man U are about to pay in the region of 65/70 million to buy Last season: Goals per match - JWP 0.24 MM 0.13 Shooting accuracy - JWP 45% MM 27% Passes per match - JWP 50.53 MM 29.38 Cross accuracy - JWP 29% MM 23% Tackle success - JWP 57% MM 58% Interceptions per game - JWP 1.44 MM 0.33 Duels won per game - JWP 3.55 MM 3.54 Aerial battles won per game - JWP 1.15 MM 0.37 (by the way, MM is 3" taller) JWP is a very, very good player. Much more than a set piece specialist. Man U paid £80m for Slabhead 🤷. Their idea of a players worth isn't the greatest 😉 |
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Post by harrythedog on Jun 12, 2023 14:34:50 GMT 1
Wow. Cant see anyone paying that. Although you never know. But id expect anyone with that much money to spend would want someone who contributes more during the 90s mins every week than someone who scores a worldy freekick every 4 or 5 games There speaks someone who's never seen James Ward-Prowse play. Let's compare him to Mason Mount, who apparently Man U are about to pay in the region of 65/70 million to buy Last season: Goals per match - JWP 0.24 MM 0.13 Shooting accuracy - JWP 45% MM 27% Passes per match - JWP 50.53 MM 29.38 Cross accuracy - JWP 29% MM 23% Tackle success - JWP 57% MM 58% Interceptions per game - JWP 1.44 MM 0.33 Duels won per game - JWP 3.55 MM 3.54 Aerial battles won per game - JWP 1.15 MM 0.37 (by the way, MM is 3" taller) JWP is a very, very good player. Much more than a set piece specialist. Well done, And in the modern game his goals alone make him worth around that much don't they? |
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 12, 2023 14:37:54 GMT 1
Wow. Cant see anyone paying that. Although you never know. But id expect anyone with that much money to spend would want someone who contributes more during the 90s mins every week than someone who scores a worldy freekick every 4 or 5 games There speaks someone who's never seen James Ward-Prowse play. Let's compare him to Mason Mount, who apparently Man U are about to pay in the region of 65/70 million to buy Last season: Goals per match - JWP 0.24 MM 0.13 Shooting accuracy - JWP 45% MM 27% Passes per match - JWP 50.53 MM 29.38 Cross accuracy - JWP 29% MM 23% Tackle success - JWP 57% MM 58% Interceptions per game - JWP 1.44 MM 0.33 Duels won per game - JWP 3.55 MM 3.54 Aerial battles won per game - JWP 1.15 MM 0.37 (by the way, MM is 3" taller) JWP is a very, very good player. Much more than a set piece specialist. Seen him play lots of times. Never stands out. Not sure what mason mount has to do with anything. Don’t rate him either. Apparently his running stats are very good. I realise watching on tv isn’t the same as seeing players live. 50m has to be a champions league chasing team??? Don’t see him being anything other than a mid lower league player personally |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jun 12, 2023 14:45:54 GMT 1
There speaks someone who's never seen James Ward-Prowse play. Let's compare him to Mason Mount, who apparently Man U are about to pay in the region of 65/70 million to buy Last season: Goals per match - JWP 0.24 MM 0.13 Shooting accuracy - JWP 45% MM 27% Passes per match - JWP 50.53 MM 29.38 Cross accuracy - JWP 29% MM 23% Tackle success - JWP 57% MM 58% Interceptions per game - JWP 1.44 MM 0.33 Duels won per game - JWP 3.55 MM 3.54 Aerial battles won per game - JWP 1.15 MM 0.37 (by the way, MM is 3" taller) JWP is a very, very good player. Much more than a set piece specialist. Seen him play lots of times. Never stands out. Not sure what mason mount has to do with anything. Don’t rate him either. Apparently his running stats are very good. I realise watching on tv isn’t the same as seeing players live. 50m has to be a champions league chasing team??? Don’t see him being anything other than a mid lower league player personally Mason Mount plays in a similar position in a better team, plays regularly for England and is also the subject of transfer speculation at the moment. It's arguably the most appropriate comparison out there. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 12, 2023 14:46:33 GMT 1
There speaks someone who's never seen James Ward-Prowse play. Let's compare him to Mason Mount, who apparently Man U are about to pay in the region of 65/70 million to buy Last season: Goals per match - JWP 0.24 MM 0.13 Shooting accuracy - JWP 45% MM 27% Passes per match - JWP 50.53 MM 29.38 Cross accuracy - JWP 29% MM 23% Tackle success - JWP 57% MM 58% Interceptions per game - JWP 1.44 MM 0.33 Duels won per game - JWP 3.55 MM 3.54 Aerial battles won per game - JWP 1.15 MM 0.37 (by the way, MM is 3" taller) JWP is a very, very good player. Much more than a set piece specialist. Well done, And in the modern game his goals alone make him worth around that much don't they? Ward prowse in a much better team?? Good player might be outstanding player.? He has the attributes but playing at Saints meant you mostly saw his workrate, free kicks and corners, he does have much more to offer. |
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Post by harrythedog on Jun 12, 2023 14:55:39 GMT 1
Well done, And in the modern game his goals alone make him worth around that much don't they? Ward prowse in a much better team?? Good player might be outstanding player.? He has the attributes but playing at Saints meant you mostly saw his workrate, free kicks and corners, he does have much more to offer. IMO he deserves a chance at a team not continually fighting relegation, I'm sure Saints fans wouldn't begrudge him that. Villa or even Brighton on last seasons evidence. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 12, 2023 15:06:56 GMT 1
Ward prowse in a much better team?? Good player might be outstanding player.? He has the attributes but playing at Saints meant you mostly saw his workrate, free kicks and corners, he does have much more to offer. IMO he deserves a chance at a team not continually fighting relegation, I'm sure Saints fans wouldn't begrudge him that. Villa or even Brighton on last seasons evidence. His talents were swapped for hard work because thats what it was to play for the Saints last year. Our own Sorba looked a talent when our game plan allowed him to simply do what he likes to do best, the hard work caught him out. Ward Prowse does work hard already, its in his game, so being able to play a bit more may improve him no end. You cant play in a top ten side anymore just living off what you like doing best, discipline and graft are a pre requesite.. |
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Post by shawsie on Jun 12, 2023 15:07:42 GMT 1
Some of the criticism of both his ability and attitude on here astound me.
Did he become a bit big headed after the Welsh call up? Probably, but hes a young lad and just needed some decent management - not a rookie like Schofield or a numpty like Fotheringham who quite simply offered nothing but confrontation.
If he gets back to somewhere near his best a la the carlos play off season he will be a tremendous asset for us..............i just hope he can and does. Warnock could be the making of him and cement him as a very good championship player.
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