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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Aug 27, 2022 17:16:47 GMT 1
With 10 mins to go at 2 all the bookies priced it 8/1 a town win 8/15 a draw WBA 11/5 Crazy odds 4/1 to win at the start of the game. They can see how shit we are then. I haven’t seen us like that since the Prem. mental
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Post by Teddington Ted on Aug 27, 2022 17:16:54 GMT 1
With 10 mins to go at 2 all the bookies priced it 8/1 a town win 8/15 a draw WBA 11/5 Crazy odds They weren’t wrong though.
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 27, 2022 17:18:24 GMT 1
I'm still at a loss as to what Schofield's tactical philosophy is. There was some lovely individual bits of play amongst all that but no control of the game, that gaping hole between the defence and midfield again, and some of that ridiculous disorganised ball chasing defending we saw in Carlos' first season.
2 cracking goals from Tino, what a player. Ruffels would've been a great goal but it made me laugh as it was just another first time hoof from him. Entertaining game of football but I think we're definitely in trouble here. I was prepared to be patient for the first few games, but at the end of the day we're in the relegation zone. Now I'm wondering how long is long enough
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 27, 2022 17:20:17 GMT 1
Sorry but Schofield needs replacing now. He is so far out of his depth it's unreal. We need a manager with experience and calibre. Our game plan looks non existent
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 27, 2022 17:20:34 GMT 1
We look a shambles. Like watching infant school kids running round in circles trying to find the ball.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Aug 27, 2022 17:23:27 GMT 1
Sorry but Schofield needs replacing now. He is so far out of his depth it's unreal. We need a manager with experience and calibre. Our game plan looks non existent In fairness, Corberan had zero experience, and little calibre, when he took over. Are you suggesting we need a dinosaur? Are WBA happy with their manager with experience and calibre?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2022 17:25:38 GMT 1
Their 35 was woeful. He passed it out of play 3 or 4 times, scuffed a shot terribly and header way over unmarked from 6 yards. Good job he was playing or I don't think we'd have come away with anything
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Post by ACW on Aug 27, 2022 17:26:13 GMT 1
Sorry to be so negative, but that was dire, defensive, long ball shite.
30% possession and 60% passing accuracy is not good enough
Spending most of the match defending your own box and putting together one decent move every 20 mins is not good enough.
Two great goals, but no attacking plan and little quality from Town. It's going be a long season if our plan is to sit deep, defend our box and rely on long punts from the goalie.
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Post by waggers on Aug 27, 2022 17:27:19 GMT 1
Sorry but Schofield needs replacing now. He is so far out of his depth it's unreal. We need a manager with experience and calibre. Our game plan looks non existent Unless we lose 5 or more on the bounce Hoyle won't bring in a proper manager. If he can stay in the Championship expending as little money as possible he will. I'm not having a go at Schofield it's not his fault this is a very tough league for any manager experienced or not.
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 27, 2022 17:28:25 GMT 1
Sorry but Schofield needs replacing now. He is so far out of his depth it's unreal. We need a manager with experience and calibre. Our game plan looks non existent In fairness, Corberan had zero experience, and little calibre, when he took over. Are you suggesting we need a dinosaur? Are WBA happy with their manager with experience and calibre? I woukd take a dinosaur over schofield every day yes. He doesn't inspire any confidence in me whatsoever.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 27, 2022 17:28:35 GMT 1
Decent point against a decent team. Never great losing a 2 goal lead but draw was fair result overall. Really battled every single ball first 40 minutes but tired after that, we were lucky not to concede a third but also went real close with the Rhodes header and then the shot off the post. On we go. UTT
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 27, 2022 17:28:42 GMT 1
Sorry but Schofield needs replacing now. He is so far out of his depth it's unreal. We need a manager with experience and calibre. Our game plan looks non existent Unless we lose 5 or more on the bounce Hoyle won't bring in a proper manager. If he can stay in the Championship expending as little money as possible he will. I'm not having a go at Schofield it's not his fault this is a very tough league for any manager experienced or not. It's very hard to see us staying in this league playing the way we are.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2022 17:29:23 GMT 1
I know there was some key players missing but based on that we're in trouble. We created zero in terms of chances, unable to retain the ball, string any moves together and absolutely zero control of the game at any time. Real dire stuff, West Brom can probably feel hard done by not winning there but their finishing was pretty dire. I didn't really understand the first 2 Town subs either. Today has set some alarm bells ringing for me. Too much long ball, aimless. Have we signed a striker?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2022 17:31:21 GMT 1
Sorry to be so negative, but that was dire, defensive, long ball shite. 30% possession and 60% passing accuracy is not good enough Spending most of the match defending your own box and putting together one decent move every 20 mins is not good enough. Two great goals, but no attacking plan and little quality from Town. It's going be a long season if our plan is to sit deep, defend our box and rely on long punts from the goalie. We had games as bad as that last season. The way Swansea dominated as an away side was ridiculous
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Post by impact on Aug 27, 2022 17:33:52 GMT 1
We really need a new centre mid. Far too easy for West Brom through the middle today, and also down our right asking Tino to be pretty much everywhere. No wonder he got knackered.
Russell can't play in a 2, and Rudoni is going a sterling job but we shouldn't be needing to play him deep in a 2.
Disappointed we went back to the old score and sit deep routine. I disliked it last year and its the same this. With no Pearson and Lees I don't think we have the ability to see games out like that. However it was a really good start which has been lacking this year. Some big chances missed by both teams, the score really could have been anything.
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Post by mrg on Aug 27, 2022 17:35:53 GMT 1
I know there was some key players missing but based on that we're in trouble. We created zero in terms of chances, unable to retain the ball, string any moves together and absolutely zero control of the game at any time. Real dire stuff, West Brom can probably feel hard done by not winning there but their finishing was pretty dire. I didn't really understand the first 2 Town subs either. Today has set some alarm bells ringing for me. Too much long ball, aimless. Have we signed a striker? So we are a striker a midfielder and a defender short and possibly a head coach and a right hand man. Although according to bromby obrian and toffolo have been replaced, im just not sure colwill, pipa and sarr have.
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 27, 2022 17:38:10 GMT 1
Sorry to be so negative, but that was dire, defensive, long ball shite. 30% possession and 60% passing accuracy is not good enough Spending most of the match defending your own box and putting together one decent move every 20 mins is not good enough. Two great goals, but no attacking plan and little quality from Town. It's going be a long season if our plan is to sit deep, defend our box and rely on long punts from the goalie. We had games as bad as that last season. The way Swansea dominated as an away side was ridiculous We've had 5 games at least as bad as that this season, out of 6. Off the top of my head I can think of 7 properly bad performances from 50 odd games last season- Fulham home, Forest home, Bournemouth away, Middlesbrough home, Forest cup, Millwall away, and Bournemouth home. If we performed like in that Swansea game today I'd have had a lot less fun, but I'd feel miles better about the state of our defence
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Post by ACW on Aug 27, 2022 17:39:11 GMT 1
Sorry to be so negative, but that was dire, defensive, long ball shite. 30% possession and 60% passing accuracy is not good enough Spending most of the match defending your own box and putting together one decent move every 20 mins is not good enough. Two great goals, but no attacking plan and little quality from Town. It's going be a long season if our plan is to sit deep, defend our box and rely on long punts from the goalie. We had games as bad as that last season. The way Swansea dominated as an away side was ridiculous At least we tried to play under Corberan. We tried to pass and move. Under Schofield we just rely on long punts.
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Post by jakeg on Aug 27, 2022 17:40:05 GMT 1
I'm not going to bother reading the post match comments as I know exactly what they will say. Disagreement with the substitutions, frustration at the latest whipping boy of Russell, they should have had a penalty, we were lucky to get away with a point etc etc. All pretty predictable really.
Just wanted to praise Ruffels given he's been the forum scapegoat most of the season. Solid defensively and progressive going forward. Well done Josh. Thomas looked more on it today too.
Good watch of a game....quality sometimes lacking in both sides but both trying to win (yes even with the subs). Obviously missed Hogg biting into the midfield....really light in there at the moment
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Post by impact on Aug 27, 2022 17:43:11 GMT 1
Watch their first goal back and just watch Russell. So, so lazy. He's a luxury we can't afford at the moment.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2022 17:44:30 GMT 1
Definite penalty for me, would be given with VAR.. and we've just hit the post. You sure? Probably wouldn't have even reviewed it. Entertaining afternoon. West Brom are a decent side but what is it with Town after scoring? We were fine until the first goal. The second was on the break. We could have won.
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Post by hgterrier on Aug 27, 2022 17:44:48 GMT 1
I think David would get a tune from this group. We have some talented, exciting players, just lacking a plan. I really hope Dean and Dave are having "that" discussion right now. Can't see it though. I think he is now out of our price range.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 27, 2022 17:47:22 GMT 1
Decent point against a decent team. Never great losing a 2 goal lead but draw was fair result overall. Really battled every single ball first 40 minutes but tired after that, we were lucky not to concede a third but also went real close with the Rhodes header and then the shot of the post. On we go. UTT I’d argue they’re a decent team - I’d put money on them not going up
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Aug 27, 2022 17:48:32 GMT 1
Sorry but Schofield needs replacing now. He is so far out of his depth it's unreal. We need a manager with experience and calibre. Our game plan looks non existent In fairness, Corberan had zero experience, and little calibre, when he took over. Are you suggesting we need a dinosaur? Are WBA happy with their manager with experience and calibre? I'd "like" this post twice if I could. We don't know if Schofield will turn out to be a great coach or not, but if the reports of him being "highly rated within the game" are accurate (and tbf I've only heard that from within the club) then he deserves the time we afforded Carlos at the very least. It's clear to anyone with eyes and a brain that what's holding WBA back is their "experienced" manager. Would I swap Schofield for Bruce? Not in a million years. It's not as if we've got stacks of cash to throw at someone like Sean Dyche either.
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Post by loumacari on Aug 27, 2022 17:49:29 GMT 1
In fairness, Corberan had zero experience, and little calibre, when he took over. Are you suggesting we need a dinosaur? Are WBA happy with their manager with experience and calibre? I'd "like" this post twice if I could. We don't know if Schofield will turn out to be a great coach or not, but if the reports of him being "highly rated within the game" are accurate (and tbf I've only heard that from within the club) then he deserves the time we afforded Carlos at the very least. It's clear to anyone with eyes and a brain that what's holding WBA back is their "experienced" manager. Would I swap Schofield for Bruce? Not in a million years. It's not as if we've got stacks of cash to throw at someone like Sean Dyche either. I’d give us more chance of staying up under Bruce than Schofield.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Aug 27, 2022 17:49:33 GMT 1
With 10 mins to go at 2 all the bookies priced it 8/1 a town win 8/15 a draw WBA 11/5 Crazy odds. At those prices you’d think we’d had a man sent off or were a team of part timers playing a professional team in the fa cup I’m not surprised. We just sat with nine men behind the ball 30 yards from our goal. There is no pressing and we are relying on Nicholls making saves and commanding his box. This squad is much better than that.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2022 17:50:23 GMT 1
Lovely stuff. Is Brucie raging? Thought he was going to explode when they didn't get that penalty 5 mins from the end.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Aug 27, 2022 17:51:34 GMT 1
I'd "like" this post twice if I could. We don't know if Schofield will turn out to be a great coach or not, but if the reports of him being "highly rated within the game" are accurate (and tbf I've only heard that from within the club) then he deserves the time we afforded Carlos at the very least. It's clear to anyone with eyes and a brain that what's holding WBA back is their "experienced" manager. Would I swap Schofield for Bruce? Not in a million years. It's not as if we've got stacks of cash to throw at someone like Sean Dyche either. I’d give us more chance of staying up under Bruce than Schofield. We'll have to agree to disagree on that. If we appointed Bruce I'd stop going.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 27, 2022 17:51:44 GMT 1
Decent point against a decent team. Never great losing a 2 goal lead but draw was fair result overall. Really battled every single ball first 40 minutes but tired after that, we were lucky not to concede a third but also went real close with the Rhodes header and then the shot of the post. On we go. UTT I’d argue they’re a decent team - I’d put money on them not going up I don’t think they are good enough for promotion but they are definitely a decent team in my opinion.
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 27, 2022 17:52:00 GMT 1
It's gonna be a long season, think most posters on here would have taken a draw prior to kick off.
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