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Post by terrier10 on Aug 26, 2022 16:10:07 GMT 1
Alan Nixon:
Morecambe are ready to sign Huddersfield striker Kieran Phillips on loan.
Phillips has been sent out for game time by the Terriers who have been using him in their under 21 team.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 26, 2022 16:11:25 GMT 1
Seems like a good loan to league one for the lad.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 26, 2022 18:00:29 GMT 1
Surprised he's going to Lg1 after not exactly tearing it up in Lg2 but it makes sense for him to go on loan. Particularly if Simpson does come here, he'll be 4th choice otherwise.
Hope it works out for him.
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 26, 2022 18:39:46 GMT 1
Surprised he's going to Lg1 after not exactly tearing it up in Lg2 but it makes sense for him to go on loan. Particularly if Simpson does come here, he'll be 4th choice otherwise. Hope it works out for him. That was precisely what I thought too. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 26, 2022 20:29:08 GMT 1
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 26, 2022 20:59:19 GMT 1
Why do we have a loans manager? It's stuff like that that's sending our wage bill barmy |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 26, 2022 21:06:55 GMT 1
Surprised he's going to Lg1 after not exactly tearing it up in Lg2 but it makes sense for him to go on loan. Particularly if Simpson does come here, he'll be 4th choice otherwise. Hope it works out for him. it is a strange one. Daly, Harratt, and Crichlow showed they were better than league 2, were moved on midseason, and are now back at that level. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 26, 2022 21:09:37 GMT 1
Why do we have a loans manager? It's stuff like that that's sending our wage bill barmy I'm struggling to see the problem. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 26, 2022 21:11:46 GMT 1
Surprised he's going to Lg1 after not exactly tearing it up in Lg2 but it makes sense for him to go on loan. Particularly if Simpson does come here, he'll be 4th choice otherwise. Hope it works out for him. it is a strange one. Daly, Harratt, and Crichlow showed they were better than league 2, were moved on midseason, and are now back at that level. Not sure Daly and Harratt showed they were better than Lg2. Daly did well at Hartlepool but nowt at The Chickens, and Harratt was a bit part player at Port Vale last season. Crichlow though I would have expected to see on Lg1. |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Aug 26, 2022 21:22:26 GMT 1
Why do we have a loans manager? It's stuff like that that's sending our wage bill barmy To get the players loan moves. Make sure they’re the correct ones and also look after the players welfare. |
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Post by Sparrow on Aug 26, 2022 21:27:49 GMT 1
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Post by Skint Terriers on Aug 26, 2022 22:16:41 GMT 1
I'm very surprised we've managed to get him a move to a league one team.
I reckon this will be his last loan and then we'll let him go if he has another underwhelming season
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 26, 2022 23:35:54 GMT 1
I'm very surprised we've managed to get him a move to a league one team. I reckon this will be his last loan and then we'll let him go if he has another underwhelming season He played a lot of games for Walsall as a winger so unsurprising that his goal output wasn't great, but just prior to his loan spell at Exeter he signed a new contract to 2025, so the club must have some faith that he'll eventually make it. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 26, 2022 23:41:59 GMT 1
it is a strange one. Daly, Harratt, and Crichlow showed they were better than league 2, were moved on midseason, and are now back at that level. Not sure Daly and Harratt showed they were better than Lg2. Daly did well at Hartlepool but nowt at The Chickens, and Harratt was a bit part player at Port Vale last season. Crichlow though I would have expected to see on Lg1. I was hesitant to include Harratt but he did score on the winning side in the playoff final after all. I know a Hartlepool fan who thought Daly was brilliant and was sad to see him go, and a Bradford fan who thought he was shit. |
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Post by turbo2 on Aug 27, 2022 7:35:32 GMT 1
Why do we have a loans manager? It's stuff like that that's sending our wage bill barmy We’ve got loads out on loan. Someone has to set those up and look after these young lads. Think the wages spent on this position are the least of our worries |
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Post by benhomly on Aug 27, 2022 9:59:00 GMT 1
Why do we have a loans manager? It's stuff like that that's sending our wage bill barmy Totally agree, reading the programme from the last home game we have a list of staff that will make your eyes water. Head of Football Operations Head Coach Assistant Coach x2 Head of Goalkeeping Head of Physical Performance Head of Strength & IDP Senior Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Coach Head of Medical Senior Physiotherapist x2 Sports Therapist x2 Head of Analysis & Innovation First Team Analyst x3 Kit Manager Kit Manager Assistant Commercial Director Hospitality Operations Retail Tickets Supporter Services Communications 7 Marketing Millers Oils High Performance Comples Promotions Head of Safeguarding Foundation CEO Football Administration Manager Financial Controller IT Manager HR Manager Then later in the programme it lists the U19 staff B Team Manager U19 Coach Head of Goalkeeping Individual Coach Defensive Coach Academy Coach Head of B Team Recruitment Academy Lead Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Phd Academy Sports Therapist/Rehabilitator Strength & Conditioning Coach Academy Performance Analyst Lead Academy Physiotherapist Academy Physiotherapist Head of Academy Education & Player Care Academy Kit Manager And those are just the 'managers', 'head of's' etc so presumably a lot of them have people working for them as well. Herbert Chapman will be turning in his grave. |
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 27, 2022 10:28:13 GMT 1
Why do we have a loans manager? It's stuff like that that's sending our wage bill barmy Totally agree, reading the programme from the last home game we have a list of staff that will make your eyes water. Head of Football Operations Head Coach Assistant Coach x2 Head of Goalkeeping Head of Physical Performance Head of Strength & IDP Senior Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Coach Head of Medical Senior Physiotherapist x2 Sports Therapist x2 Head of Analysis & Innovation First Team Analyst x3 Kit Manager Kit Manager Assistant Commercial Director Hospitality Operations Retail Tickets Supporter Services Communications 7 Marketing Millers Oils High Performance Comples Promotions Head of Safeguarding Foundation CEO Football Administration Manager Financial Controller IT Manager HR Manager Then later in the programme it lists the U19 staff B Team Manager U19 Coach Head of Goalkeeping Individual Coach Defensive Coach Academy Coach Head of B Team Recruitment Academy Lead Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Phd Academy Sports Therapist/Rehabilitator Strength & Conditioning Coach Academy Performance Analyst Lead Academy Physiotherapist Academy Physiotherapist Head of Academy Education & Player Care Academy Kit Manager And those are just the 'managers', 'head of's' etc so presumably a lot of them have people working for them as well. Herbert Chapman will be turning in his grave. Bloody hell that's insane, no wonder were hemorrhaging money like we are! Cull half of those and we might finally be able to afford a left wing-back and start nibbling away at Hoyle's debt. |
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Post by benroberts on Aug 27, 2022 10:45:43 GMT 1
Why do we have a loans manager? It's stuff like that that's sending our wage bill barmy Totally agree, reading the programme from the last home game we have a list of staff that will make your eyes water. Head of Football Operations Head Coach Assistant Coach x2 Head of Goalkeeping Head of Physical Performance Head of Strength & IDP Senior Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Coach Head of Medical Senior Physiotherapist x2 Sports Therapist x2 Head of Analysis & Innovation First Team Analyst x3 Kit Manager Kit Manager Assistant Commercial Director Hospitality Operations Retail Tickets Supporter Services Communications 7 Marketing Millers Oils High Performance Comples Promotions Head of Safeguarding Foundation CEO Football Administration Manager Financial Controller IT Manager HR Manager Then later in the programme it lists the U19 staff B Team Manager U19 Coach Head of Goalkeeping Individual Coach Defensive Coach Academy Coach Head of B Team Recruitment Academy Lead Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Phd Academy Sports Therapist/Rehabilitator Strength & Conditioning Coach Academy Performance Analyst Lead Academy Physiotherapist Academy Physiotherapist Head of Academy Education & Player Care Academy Kit Manager And those are just the 'managers', 'head of's' etc so presumably a lot of them have people working for them as well. Herbert Chapman will be turning in his grave. Just my opinion, but for an elite level sports team with around 50 profesional athletes on the books, and bearing in mind that HTAFC has a multi-million pound turnover that depends on performance as one of the key drivers of revenue, that list of staff looks quite reasonable to me. |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 27, 2022 10:58:35 GMT 1
That list is tiny in comparison with teams even in our division.
Because an intent of our model is to get more youngsters experience, the number of persons on loan at any given moment is increasing tear on year as we gain momentum. You have to remember that some of these players are you get than 18 and it’s part of their work experience to fulfil their studies. The loans manager is not only a performance coach, but is someone who helps the players adapt and ensures they are happy. If we have 10+ players on loan, it’s time consuming to remain in contact and keep the connection with the club.
If you think that list is eye watering, Arsenal have no less than 7 first team doctors and countless physios. They have over five individual performance coaches. Chelsea have an entire team of more than 10 persons managing loans alone.
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Post by harris on Aug 27, 2022 11:00:10 GMT 1
Totally agree, reading the programme from the last home game we have a list of staff that will make your eyes water. Head of Football Operations Head Coach Assistant Coach x2 Head of Goalkeeping Head of Physical Performance Head of Strength & IDP Senior Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Coach Head of Medical Senior Physiotherapist x2 Sports Therapist x2 Head of Analysis & Innovation First Team Analyst x3 Kit Manager Kit Manager Assistant Commercial Director Hospitality Operations Retail Tickets Supporter Services Communications 7 Marketing Millers Oils High Performance Comples Promotions Head of Safeguarding Foundation CEO Football Administration Manager Financial Controller IT Manager HR Manager Then later in the programme it lists the U19 staff B Team Manager U19 Coach Head of Goalkeeping Individual Coach Defensive Coach Academy Coach Head of B Team Recruitment Academy Lead Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Phd Academy Sports Therapist/Rehabilitator Strength & Conditioning Coach Academy Performance Analyst Lead Academy Physiotherapist Academy Physiotherapist Head of Academy Education & Player Care Academy Kit Manager And those are just the 'managers', 'head of's' etc so presumably a lot of them have people working for them as well. Herbert Chapman will be turning in his grave. Bloody hell that's insane, no wonder were hemorrhaging money like we are! Cull half of those and we might finally be able to afford a left wing-back and start nibbling away at Hoyle's debt. Which roles would you cull? |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 27, 2022 11:04:00 GMT 1
Totally agree, reading the programme from the last home game we have a list of staff that will make your eyes water. Head of Football Operations Head Coach Assistant Coach x2 Head of Goalkeeping Head of Physical Performance Head of Strength & IDP Senior Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Coach Head of Medical Senior Physiotherapist x2 Sports Therapist x2 Head of Analysis & Innovation First Team Analyst x3 Kit Manager Kit Manager Assistant Commercial Director Hospitality Operations Retail Tickets Supporter Services Communications 7 Marketing Millers Oils High Performance Comples Promotions Head of Safeguarding Foundation CEO Football Administration Manager Financial Controller IT Manager HR Manager Then later in the programme it lists the U19 staff B Team Manager U19 Coach Head of Goalkeeping Individual Coach Defensive Coach Academy Coach Head of B Team Recruitment Academy Lead Physical Performance Coach Physical Performance Phd Academy Sports Therapist/Rehabilitator Strength & Conditioning Coach Academy Performance Analyst Lead Academy Physiotherapist Academy Physiotherapist Head of Academy Education & Player Care Academy Kit Manager And those are just the 'managers', 'head of's' etc so presumably a lot of them have people working for them as well. Herbert Chapman will be turning in his grave. Bloody hell that's insane, no wonder were hemorrhaging money like we are! Cull half of those and we might finally be able to afford a left wing-back and start nibbling away at Hoyle's debt. Cull half of those and you probably save, what, £400k a year. It’s hardly going to pay for a new LWB. Not one that folk on here would be happy with, anyway. They aren’t the problem. They’re the working people that suffer the energy crisis and inflation. They’re here to help and facilitate betterment. |
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Post by salfordterrier on Aug 27, 2022 11:09:35 GMT 1
We finished 3rd last year so I reckon those people listed did their job fairly well.
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Post by benhomly on Aug 27, 2022 11:10:01 GMT 1
Bloody hell that's insane, no wonder were hemorrhaging money like we are! Cull half of those and we might finally be able to afford a left wing-back and start nibbling away at Hoyle's debt. Full half of those and you probably save, what, £400k a year. It’s hardly going to pay for a new LWB. Not one that folk on here would be happy with, anyway. They aren’t the problem. They’re the working people that suffer the energy crisis and inflation. They’re here to help and facilitate betterment. But it’s not sustainable on those levels of turnover |
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 27, 2022 11:30:09 GMT 1
Bloody hell that's insane, no wonder were hemorrhaging money like we are! Cull half of those and we might finally be able to afford a left wing-back and start nibbling away at Hoyle's debt. Cull half of those and you probably save, what, £400k a year. It’s hardly going to pay for a new LWB. Not one that folk on here would be happy with, anyway. They aren’t the problem. They’re the working people that suffer the energy crisis and inflation. They’re here to help and facilitate betterment. still 1 hell of a list, all for a 90 min game of football. |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 27, 2022 11:31:29 GMT 1
Full half of those and you probably save, what, £400k a year. It’s hardly going to pay for a new LWB. Not one that folk on here would be happy with, anyway. They aren’t the problem. They’re the working people that suffer the energy crisis and inflation. They’re here to help and facilitate betterment. But it’s not sustainable on those levels of turnover But it is. If we continued to sell ~16,000 ST’s at £299, that wage bill is less than 10% of income. What isn’t sustainable is the inflation of transfer fees and wage demands of the players. Each one of those roles listed has been created for a positive reason, whether it be better comms with the fans, better match day experiences or better performances. It’s the Aaron’s of this world that suck cash out of the club. If he’s theoretically on £2k a week, he’s the equivalent of a 1/4 of that theoretical £400k. I say sack him and give that to those who are doing more for this club. What’s more, if we are to be more sustainable, then we need more of those people to help us realise more revenue from what we have and get the best out of players who don’t cost as much. |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 27, 2022 11:32:42 GMT 1
Cull half of those and you probably save, what, £400k a year. It’s hardly going to pay for a new LWB. Not one that folk on here would be happy with, anyway. They aren’t the problem. They’re the working people that suffer the energy crisis and inflation. They’re here to help and facilitate betterment. still 1 hell of a list, all for a 90 min game of football. It’s not though, is it. It’s for over 3,600 minutes of football. And it’s the success and longevity of your club. And they’re at work for the entire calender year. Some even sacrificing major holiday periods. |
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 27, 2022 11:48:37 GMT 1
Bloody hell that's insane, no wonder were hemorrhaging money like we are! Cull half of those and we might finally be able to afford a left wing-back and start nibbling away at Hoyle's debt. Which roles would you cull? You could cull the 3 first team analysts and simply log onto the DATM match day thread about 5:00 on a Saturday afternoon. |
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Post by midge on Aug 27, 2022 12:28:23 GMT 1
Which roles would you cull? You could cull the 3 first team analysts and simply log onto the DATM match day thread about 5:00 on a Saturday afternoon. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by midge on Aug 27, 2022 12:30:03 GMT 1
Full half of those and you probably save, what, £400k a year. It’s hardly going to pay for a new LWB. Not one that folk on here would be happy with, anyway. They aren’t the problem. They’re the working people that suffer the energy crisis and inflation. They’re here to help and facilitate betterment. But it’s not sustainable on those levels of turnover If you view it as a pure cost no but I’m pretty sure it will be looked at as an investment! |
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Post by benhomly on Aug 27, 2022 13:10:27 GMT 1
still 1 hell of a list, all for a 90 min game of football. It’s not though, is it. It’s for over 3,600 minutes of football. And it’s the success and longevity of your club. And they’re at work for the entire calender year. Some even sacrificing major holiday periods. Are you on the list by any chance Tiro? 😋 |
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