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Post by mids on Sept 4, 2022 22:45:08 GMT 1
feel for him fuck him he's playing players out of position ffs bloke was an average player he's a shit manager fuck him off now if i was as shit at my job I'd be fired immediately. Playing players out of position intentionally. He had three CBs at his disposal today; Boyle, Mbete and Helik. He chooses to play Hogg ahead of all three. When he can make a change, he chose Rufells ahead of Helik. If Helik isn’t ready, don’t fuking put him on the bench ahead of two CBs that are. Every other player played in a position that is comfortable for them. To bd fair Mbete was unavailable due to concussion protocol, and Boyle is injured. Everything else, spot on. |
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Post by leroy212 on Sept 4, 2022 22:46:00 GMT 1
Some guy on twitter is saying Wagner is coming back Are there still rumours Warnock is coming back? Maybe both coming back to form a dream team 🤣 |
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Post by southowram on Sept 4, 2022 22:47:09 GMT 1
Why are people obsessed with bringing back former managers?
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 4, 2022 22:47:13 GMT 1
I don't think it helped that in his pre-match press conference he said Mbete would be available.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 4, 2022 22:48:38 GMT 1
Not much room for nuance in that poll...
Do I believe he's proven himself to be a world class head coach? Nope.
Do I believe that we need to sack him immediately? Also nope.
Results have been shit and performances not much better but there are passages of play that give me optimism that DS might get there. Also there are glaring weaknesses that aren't necessarily Schofield's fault.
At some stage patience will run out of things don't improve, but I'm not going to jump on the idea that replacing Schofield is going to solve all our problems.
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Post by Drew Peacock on Sept 4, 2022 22:49:00 GMT 1
Absolving Schofield of any blame is an absolute joke to be honest, he's made some stupid and often plain odd decisions.
This isn't a coach plucked from Saturday district league, he's played the game professionally and he's coached for several years, he should at least be able to see basics that the majority of the fan base seem to be able to see.
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Post by Tiro on Sept 4, 2022 22:49:43 GMT 1
Playing players out of position intentionally. He had three CBs at his disposal today; Boyle, Mbete and Helik. He chooses to play Hogg ahead of all three. When he can make a change, he chose Rufells ahead of Helik. If Helik isn’t ready, don’t fuking put him on the bench ahead of two CBs that are. Every other player played in a position that is comfortable for them. To bd fair Mbete was unavailable due to concussion protocol, and Boyle is injured. Everything else, spot on. Mbete and Boyle were ready. Despite what he did or didn’t say. And I wouldn’t say that just to be a wind up, I don’t do speculation. |
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Post by mids on Sept 4, 2022 22:50:11 GMT 1
I don't think it helped that in his pre-match press conference he said Mbete would be available. Absolutely. All very odd. It's like Danny is in a dream world, and needs to wake up asap. |
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Post by Tiro on Sept 4, 2022 22:52:18 GMT 1
Not much room for nuance in that poll... Do I believe he's proven himself to be a world class head coach? Nope. Do I believe that we need to sack him immediately? Also nope. Results have been shit and performances not much better but there are passages of play that give me optimism that DS might get there. Also there are glaring weaknesses that aren't necessarily Schofield's fault. At some stage patience will run out of things don't improve, but I'm not going to jump on the idea that replacing Schofield is going to solve all our problems. Wait three games or more and what could still be a challenge for mid-table becomes a challenge for survival. The players are absolutely shot of ideas and confidence. |
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Post by mids on Sept 4, 2022 22:53:58 GMT 1
To bd fair Mbete was unavailable due to concussion protocol, and Boyle is injured. Everything else, spot on. Mbete and Boyle were ready. Despite what he did or didn’t say. And I wouldn’t say that just to be a wind up, I don’t do speculation. Fair enough. Hopefully he picks Mbete next week. Boyle I'm not so bothered about. |
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 4, 2022 22:54:33 GMT 1
Not much room for nuance in that poll...Do I believe he's proven himself to be a world class head coach? Nope. Do I believe that we need to sack him immediately? Also nope. Results have been shit and performances not much better but there are passages of play that give me optimism that DS might get there. Also there are glaring weaknesses that aren't necessarily Schofield's fault. At some stage patience will run out of things don't improve, but I'm not going to jump on the idea that replacing Schofield is going to solve all our problems. Nuance is not the authors strong point  |
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Post by leroy212 on Sept 4, 2022 22:55:12 GMT 1
Mbete and Boyle were ready. Despite what he did or didn’t say. And I wouldn’t say that just to be a wind up, I don’t do speculation. Fair enough. Hopefully he picks Mbete next week. Boyle I'm not so bothered about. I honestly don't think he will be picking anyone next week |
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Post by mids on Sept 4, 2022 22:56:52 GMT 1
Fair enough. Hopefully he picks Mbete next week. Boyle I'm not so bothered about. I honestly don't think he will be picking anyone next week There is that  |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 4, 2022 22:57:32 GMT 1
The situation with Mbete is odd.
I've read the concussion protocol and my understanding is that he won't be available before Cardiff - i.e. he misses the next 2 matches then he's in. So why say he's available when he isn't?
Or maybe I've misinterpreted, and he was available for selection. On which case it's worrying that not only are we pinning so much on an untested 18 year old, but that he wasn't good enough even to be on the bench.
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 4, 2022 23:02:20 GMT 1
Schofield picking his team selection today.  |
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Post by detox on Sept 4, 2022 23:04:50 GMT 1
DS is learning on the job, but the problem is he hasn't found the answer 8 games in and it doesn't look like he's ever going to.
I accept he's been dealt a crap hand by Hoyle but we've seen nothing that suggests he's got a grip on things.6 defeats and a draw with no signs of improvement.
We need an experienced coach who's got a proven track record,but don't ask me who.
Forest had one point from 7 games when they sacked Hughton and brought in cooper because of his experience, Schofield is lucky he's not been sacked already tbh.
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Post by Big Jim on Sept 4, 2022 23:15:37 GMT 1
It isn't Schofields fault he was handed a job he isn't qualified for, he had to take the opportunity, however it can't carry on.
I think Nicholls, Lees and Russell were the only players in their natural position today, you just can't play so many players out of position. Turton at LCB was an absolute monstrous decision, he was 10x better when he moved over to RCB.
Bring back David Wagners Barmy Army? 👀👀
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Post by goodbet on Sept 4, 2022 23:26:37 GMT 1
Not much room for nuance in that poll... Do I believe he's proven himself to be a world class head coach? Nope. Do I believe that we need to sack him immediately? Also nope. Results have been shit and performances not much better but there are passages of play that give me optimism that DS might get there. Also there are glaring weaknesses that aren't necessarily Schofield's fault. At some stage patience will run out of things don't improve, but I'm not going to jump on the idea that replacing Schofield is going to solve all our problems. It won't solve all our problems but it will help. |
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Post by DuffMan on Sept 4, 2022 23:27:02 GMT 1
He has to go. Was dealt a terrible hand and the wrong time for him. Was always gonna be a hiding to nothing for whoever took over with 50p and a couple of magic beans in the kitty
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Post by isleofmanterrier on Sept 4, 2022 23:35:10 GMT 1
Sadly (as I think he’s a decent guy and a Town man) I think he has to go now whilst we’ve still got half a chance of salvaging something from this season. Absolutely no clear style of play at all. I can’t tell if the players aren’t being drilled or they’re not interested in playing for Danny. So many times today a player would play a pass and then just start walking instead of trying to move and create spaces and opportunities further forward. It was absolutely criminal and made us ridiculously easy to play against.
Unfortunately I think Dean will try and persevere with his appointment in the hope he’s justified and Danny can turn it around. The clubs twitter release says as much. (A picture of the players in a huddle with the caption ‘we move ahead together’)
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Post by monkbar on Sept 5, 2022 0:00:56 GMT 1
I honestly don't get this clamour to bring back Wagner. He's done nothing in every job since us and even with us had totally lost it before he up and quit. It was an amazing time that won't be repeated.
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Post by golcarexile on Sept 5, 2022 1:50:57 GMT 1
Aside from players being played out of position, the majority of them just don't look on it. There was a passage of play at the beginning of the second half when literally every second touch was a tackle. Blackpool weren't even pressing. It ended when somebody, I don't remember who, let the ball go under their foot and out of play. The word I used in the match thread was lackadaisical. Not sure if it's rockets up arses that is required or something else, but if things carry on like this we're going the way of Barnsley.
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Sept 5, 2022 2:32:31 GMT 1
I honestly don't get this clamour to bring back Wagner. He's done nothing in every job since us and even with us had totally lost it before he up and quit. It was an amazing time that won't be repeated. Be better than this tho |
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Post by hueypnewton on Sept 5, 2022 5:42:41 GMT 1
I watched the first half yesterday and stopped. We are literally struggling against a team as clueless as Blackpool. They are shit which means we are absolute shit. I was willing to give DS time - we all want him to do well, but after a decent transfer window and almost ten games in, there is still no rhythm or aggression throughout the team. We have a half decent squad - one that should make a game with Blackpool - but DS seems incapable of getting a tune out of them. Some of the selections are mind blowing. It’s all starting to look a little bit like the reign of Steve Smith. Instead of bringing in a Super Mac, let’s go for a young coach alongside and experienced hand? Neil Critchley, David Artell, David Healy, Kieran McKenna, Gareth Ainsworth, Mark Bonner, oh and those two brothers at Portsmouth are doing a decent job  |
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Sept 5, 2022 5:48:07 GMT 1
100% get that he’s had it tough but you can’t just use that as an excuse to the clear errors and the fact them players look totally lost trying to play whatever system he’s asking, add the fact he’s stood still on the touch line offering absolutely nothing to the game aswel as putting Ruffles (a left back,poor one at that) on at CB when Helik was according to Schofield himself fully fit are indicating infact he’s not just “not ready” but in reality hasn’t got any form of coaching ability.
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 5, 2022 5:58:59 GMT 1
Not much room for nuance in that poll...Do I believe he's proven himself to be a world class head coach? Nope. Do I believe that we need to sack him immediately? Also nope. Results have been shit and performances not much better but there are passages of play that give me optimism that DS might get there. Also there are glaring weaknesses that aren't necessarily Schofield's fault. At some stage patience will run out of things don't improve, but I'm not going to jump on the idea that replacing Schofield is going to solve all our problems. Nuance is not the authors strong point Now is not the time for Nuance. Now is the time for keeping things simple. Like not playing a right back at LCB or a small central midfielder in the heart of defence. I can’t help but think Naby would have got on the end of some of those terrific crosses put in by Thomas. But why is he playing on the left? He comes in side and crosses it but the ball is always going away from the attacker. Football isn’t complicated but Schofield is trying to make it so. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 5, 2022 6:08:39 GMT 1
Not much room for nuance in that poll... Do I believe he's proven himself to be a world class head coach? Nope. Do I believe that we need to sack him immediately? Also nope. Results have been shit and performances not much better but there are passages of play that give me optimism that DS might get there. Also there are glaring weaknesses that aren't necessarily Schofield's fault. At some stage patience will run out of things don't improve, but I'm not going to jump on the idea that replacing Schofield is going to solve all our problems. Which passages of play ? The ones where a right sided player keeps coming inside or the one where a right sided player tries to tackle with his less favoured foot or the one where opposition managers know that Rhodes will replace ward on or around 75 mins or the one where when losing we put on a left back at CB? Watched town for long enough to know when the manager isn’t going to work. He is reminding me of Wadsworth… |
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Post by stinkypete on Sept 5, 2022 6:14:52 GMT 1
I honestly don't get this clamour to bring back Wagner. He's done nothing in every job since us and even with us had totally lost it before he up and quit. It was an amazing time that won't be repeated. Would give the whole place a huge lift, and at least he may introduce a game plan and some fitness levels! |
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 5, 2022 6:22:45 GMT 1
I honestly don't get this clamour to bring back Wagner. He's done nothing in every job since us and even with us had totally lost it before he up and quit. It was an amazing time that won't be repeated. Would give the whole place a huge lift, and at least he may introduce a game plan and some fitness levels! I don’t think we could afford him. The shambles that happened this summer will take a lot of repairing. A shambles that PH had sorted (I was wrong about him) a shambles which has returned under Dean. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 5, 2022 8:02:01 GMT 1
Should have shown more faith and support in the man that helped get us to a play-off final. You always was a class act Carlos.  |
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