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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 9, 2022 17:09:43 GMT 1
Whoever made the decision should be gone by the end of the day whether the intention was good or not. As you say this is only going to cause resentment, which within itself is the biggest form of disrespect after her passing. No national holiday but you can’t go watch the football after working and having this bad news. This country fucking stinks. Yeah you're not wrong, everyone I know my age from back home or in uni either doesn't particularly care about the royal family or has some sort of resentment towards it. When you then start to cancel things days after that people do care about then that will cause annoyance rather than sympathy. Like I understand this is a sad moment for a lot of people, but why does that mean you can't have something to look forward to on the weekend? Maybe it's me being ignorant but I'm just a bit confused. Im sad that she has died, I saluted/toasted her just about daily for most of my working life but I do not believe respect requires lots of orders or rules, not even for the Queen. The funeral day being different by way of National respect and all other events are rightly postponed. The rest is just some wanting virtue signallling to take place.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 9, 2022 17:11:20 GMT 1
When my Dad died I went to a match 2 days later. Why wouldn't I? When George vi died football fixtures weren't cancelled. If people want to sit at home watching the same news coverage over and over again or listen to solemn music then they are perfectly free to do so.
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Post by Dan on Sept 9, 2022 17:15:36 GMT 1
We are off to Whitby tomorrow instead of watching footie and watching the scores coming in. If that disrespects the Queens death, tough. We will have a gentlemens toast to her life, maybe more than one and hope she brings us some luck in the fishing. I’m actually going to watch the giants. Don’t go very often. Going to have a load of beer and I’m not going to show any respect as these knob head’s have caused me to be resentful. 🖕 I think you're directing your anger to the wrong people. It isn't the Royal Familys or Governments fault there is no football this weekend. All other sports other than Boxing are going ahead. It is The FA, Premier League, EFL that have come to this decision. I agree it is the wrong decision, but I do feel sorry for people who can't find something else to do for one weekend other than watch a game of football. Also, like some have said, this could benefit Schofield massively if the rumours of him having one game to save his job are true. You'd rather have Wigan at home than QPR away.
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Post by orinoco on Sept 9, 2022 17:18:42 GMT 1
Instead of being on the train to London this aft, I went to my mum's for a couple of hours. She was stunned the game was off (but glad I went to see her) Her view. "Well, some of the older end might be a bit upset, but the rest of us should just carry on" My mum is 90. A lot are saddened but it is not life stopping unfortunately
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 9, 2022 17:31:49 GMT 1
Given it’s Champions League night on Tuesday, I would think Wigan game would be on. They won’t postpone Champions League, with English teams playing in Europe that night I would think all English teams play.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 9, 2022 17:36:17 GMT 1
I’m actually going to watch the giants. Don’t go very often. Going to have a load of beer and I’m not going to show any respect as these knob head’s have caused me to be resentful. 🖕 I think you're directing your anger to the wrong people. It isn't the Royal Familys or Governments fault there is no football this weekend. All other sports other than Boxing are going ahead. It is The FA, Premier League, EFL that have come to this decision. I agree it is the wrong decision, but I do feel sorry for people who can't find something else to do for one weekend other than watch a game of football. Also, like some have said, this could benefit Schofield massively if the rumours of him having one game to save his job are true. You'd rather have Wigan at home than QPR away. It's nowt yo do with having nowt to do other than football, it's to do with that there is no real reason for it to be postponed in the first place. The Queen dying is not a valid reason for it to be called off.
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Post by Macjinx on Sept 9, 2022 17:39:02 GMT 1
After 70 years dedicated service to the country, surely the least us mere mortals can do is put up with no football for a couple of days. Plus as we are shite it gives a few more says for the new signings to bed in and potentially improve us. The pomp, ceremony, and heritage is what makes Britain great, and sets us apart from all the lesser countries. Oh, I thought pumping shite into rivers and the sea, our need for thousands of food banks, and our crippled health service did set us apart, but never mind she will still get a good send off. I'm afraid we are a lesser country these days.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Sept 9, 2022 17:40:18 GMT 1
Decision taken by the Premier League and EFL after being advised by government that postponing sports fixtures is not obligatory and "at the discretion of individual organisations". Rugby League, Union, Cricket all going ahead tomorrow - pubs cafes, cinemas, shops all open - but those bafoons at the PL & EFL demonstrate how out of touch they are with supporters yet again.
As someone who definitely isn't a royalist, I really did admire the Queen and it would have been nice to respect her with a silence at the weekend. I won't be paying any respect at 3pm tomorrow, unlike if I'd been at the game, and all I'm left thinking is that some people somewhere are dictating to me how I should feel about her death and how I should respect it. I can make that decision myself thanks and it would have been very respectful.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 9, 2022 17:41:32 GMT 1
Given it’s Champions League night on Tuesday, I would think Wigan game would be on. They won’t postpone Champions League, with English teams playing in Europe that night I would think all English teams play. They wouldn't dare postpone those games. Much like most businesses have continued as normal today... I don't think the Royal family will have had much to do with any of this, it's just some people at the top of some organisations not reading the room... The last time a Monarch died it was all newspapers & word of mouth, people kept on working around and during the mourning period. It would seem we have gone a bit soft...
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Post by Stewpot on Sept 9, 2022 18:23:44 GMT 1
In a football context, CR3 as I now like to call him could have recinded the decision and scored quite a few brownie points. No mention alas in his address to the nation!
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 9, 2022 18:26:16 GMT 1
I’m actually going to watch the giants. Don’t go very often. Going to have a load of beer and I’m not going to show any respect as these knob head’s have caused me to be resentful. 🖕 I think you're directing your anger to the wrong people. It isn't the Royal Familys or Governments fault there is no football this weekend. All other sports other than Boxing are going ahead. It is The FA, Premier League, EFL that have come to this decision. I agree it is the wrong decision, but I do feel sorry for people who can't find something else to do for one weekend other than watch a game of football. Also, like some have said, this could benefit Schofield massively if the rumours of him having one game to save his job are true. You'd rather have Wigan at home than QPR away. The establishment is everyone who makes stupid decisions that affect my life. I’d booked train travel and match tickets, sorted the wife and the youngest on their university visit. Now that’s all in the bin. I’d have been at loftus road and stood for a silence or round of applause like I normally do. Was really looking forward to it, as I normally do. Work hard every week for these type of things. I’m not struggling for other things to do. Far from it. Just annoyed that we are forced to do as I’m told yet again. Like I’ve said before. It’s a sad time for the country but there’s literally no need for this. Now qpr will be a mid week away game that I won’t get to. And my Saturday, having worked hard this week is now not what I wanted it to be. I give up with this utter woke shite where folk tell me how to behave. I’m not some fookin hoodlum. I hold down a well paid job and live in a beautiful house. Resentful. 🖕.
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 9, 2022 18:29:21 GMT 1
Absolutely it should be called off. We are shit at the moment and I'm hoping that we will be much better, with or without a new manager, when we play them again.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 9, 2022 18:32:42 GMT 1
The Queen was supposedly a big sports fan, horse racing in particular - surely she would not have wanted any sport to be cancelled, these are ideal events for proper respect to be shown? Perhaps the day she died (when football was played in this country) & the day of her funeral sport could be cancelled but why do it for other days?
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Post by einediemengedochsen on Sept 9, 2022 18:35:52 GMT 1
Nearly every voice in here including mine is expressing disagreement with this ridiculous decision.
But look at the actual poll result! Over 25% of people actually voted yes! And that’s from a football supporting readership!
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Post by daftmidge on Sept 9, 2022 18:38:25 GMT 1
Suppose it goes to show how out of touch the powers that be are. And I don't mean the royals in this instance.
The FA is an old boys club and frankly full of wankers who shouldn't be anywhere near making decisions about what football should or shouldn't do.
They covered their arses over pedo coaches, fucked up the Euros final, they got Dicked over when they wanted to host a world Cup and they got this call wrong too. Can't actually bring to mind one thing they have got right.
Shame really as I am sure 90% of footy fans in this country would have happily done a minutes silence before kickoff and applause for the Queen.
Fuck the FA board.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 9, 2022 18:43:54 GMT 1
Right, what time does the game start tonight…
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Post by einediemengedochsen on Sept 9, 2022 18:46:55 GMT 1
Right, what time does the game start tonight… Right after tea. Down at the rec - don’t forget your jumper for goalposts.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 9, 2022 18:48:18 GMT 1
Its the use of another 'incident or crisis' by those who know better. You are told how to react, you are then made to react wether you agree or not. Football attracts tens of thousands who are now told, again, the games are off and you cannot go, where respect for the Queen comes into that, I cant tell you and neither can they but they dont believe they need to explain. Had they played the games the respect for the death of the Queen would not have gone up or down by a cock hair. The fact thousands may have paid out money to attend games does not register with these people, its another opportunity to tell us what we must do for some sort of virtous nonsense. That may be so but nothing to do with your original conspiracy. Who are these ‘betters’ and did they order the FA to call of all the games if so why not the cricket and golf and rugby and others? Cricket and Golf, plus the Rugby do not have the numbers who will be attending in person, or watching the football this weekend. Its clearly a defined statement to show the strength of the establishment even over the new wealth and influence in football. The size of the statement is the key. The actual reasoning re respect is utter bollocks and we all know it, the statement from the Palace cleared all sports fixtures from the requirement under mourning rules. We have been told again where we stand.
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Post by einediemengedochsen on Sept 9, 2022 18:52:10 GMT 1
That may be so but nothing to do with your original conspiracy. Who are these ‘betters’ and did they order the FA to call of all the games if so why not the cricket and golf and rugby and others? Cricket and Golf, plus the Rugby do not have the numbers who will be attending in person, or watching the football this weekend. Its clearly a defined statement to show the strength of the establishment even over the new wealth and influence in football. The size of the statement is the key. The actual reasoning re respect is utter bollocks and we all know it, the statement from the Palace cleared all sports fixtures from the requirement under mourning rules. We have been told again where we stand. I agree it’s bollocks but it’s just FA buffoonery. It was their stupid decision, the idea that the “establishment” ordered them is quite frankly ridiculous.
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Post by einediemengedochsen on Sept 9, 2022 18:59:03 GMT 1
Footy fans have often been treated like second class citizens -it’s wrong but it’s not part of a wider conspiracy it’s just how it is unfortunately.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 9, 2022 19:00:11 GMT 1
Nearly every voice in here including mine is expressing disagreement with this ridiculous decision. But look at the actual poll result! Over 25% of people actually voted yes! And that’s from a football supporting readership! Yes, a minority. I’m sure there are non football fans who are equally fed up that the likes of Masters, McCormick, Brittain and/or whoever else decided on behalf of millions of others. It’s this ridiculous nanny state that is grasping harder each year. It’s not even about a Town game. It’s becoming tiresome having everyday normalities removed. No questions asked. Immediate blanket removal.
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Post by stanton1969 on Sept 9, 2022 19:07:01 GMT 1
I read the Express and the Mail cover to cover every day and frankly I would have been outraged to the point of my head literally exploding if sporting events hadn't been called off this weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 19:11:45 GMT 1
The only "disrespect" being shown is by organisations and media who treat Britons as one homogenous entity who all mourn the same way, show their respects in the same way, all care about what's happened equally - and they're basically saying that nobody is allowed to be ambivalent.
Flying flags at half mast doesn't affect anyone, republicans and anti-monarchists can spend a minute's silence mentally writing a shopping list rather than sombre reflection if they want - all absolutely fine. Nobody's being disrespectful by getting on with their lives.
This decision is just a consequence of that, and it's just silly.
As for what she would've wanted - did anyone think to...you know...ask her?
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Post by stinkypete on Sept 9, 2022 19:31:26 GMT 1
My dad passed away in the early hours of a Saturday morning, I went to watch Town in the afternoon and had a few beers with my mates. He’d have been fuming if I didn’t go! Made me feel better and what’s moping about at home going to achieve?
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Post by shawsie on Sept 9, 2022 19:43:38 GMT 1
No. By all means suspend games for the state funeral…….but it’s nonsense some sports are going ahead and others aren’t just after her sad demise. Would have been an awesome sight in grounds all singing the national anthem but hey ho…..not worth getting worked up over.
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Post by eddieyoudsscarf on Sept 9, 2022 20:05:41 GMT 1
Yes, should be off. Unfortunately due to the noisy minority who wouldn’t respect the tributes to her majesty.
It’s only a couple of weeks since Liverpool fans booed the national anthem (community shield I think?) imagine a repeat of that and the level of unwanted headlines it would create.
Highly unlikely for this kind of thing to be repeated in golf, cricket or rugby so the right call has been made.
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Post by einediemengedochsen on Sept 9, 2022 20:20:40 GMT 1
Yes, should be off. Unfortunately due to the noisy minority who wouldn’t respect the tributes to her majesty. It’s only a couple of weeks since Liverpool fans booed the national anthem (community shield I think?) imagine a repeat of that and the level of unwanted headlines it would create. Highly unlikely for this kind of thing to be repeated in golf, cricket or rugby so the right call has been made. But am sure there will be minutes silences when FA decide when to let us play again.
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Post by eddieyoudsscarf on Sept 9, 2022 20:29:55 GMT 1
Yes, should be off. Unfortunately due to the noisy minority who wouldn’t respect the tributes to her majesty. It’s only a couple of weeks since Liverpool fans booed the national anthem (community shield I think?) imagine a repeat of that and the level of unwanted headlines it would create. Highly unlikely for this kind of thing to be repeated in golf, cricket or rugby so the right call has been made. But am sure there will be minutes silences when FA decide when to let us play again. By then it’ll be less raw, less rolling news and people will have had time to mourn and begin to move on.
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 9, 2022 20:32:09 GMT 1
Yes, should be off. Unfortunately due to the noisy minority who wouldn’t respect the tributes to her majesty. It’s only a couple of weeks since Liverpool fans booed the national anthem (community shield I think?) imagine a repeat of that and the level of unwanted headlines it would create. Highly unlikely for this kind of thing to be repeated in golf, cricket or rugby so the right call has been made. But am sure there will be minutes silences when FA decide when to let us play again. But that’s exactly why minutes applause was introduced, because a very small minority can’t be trusted to conform. I’m against all these types of things, but if in attendance I accept them. That’s again why applause is the best idea, as it easily drowns out those not willing to accept it
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Post by 28901 on Sept 9, 2022 20:48:29 GMT 1
One thing I can guarantee is that whatever decision football authorities make on anything they will completely fuck it up.
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