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Post by araucaria on Sept 10, 2022 10:38:38 GMT 1
I read the Express and the Mail cover to cover every day and frankly I would have been outraged to the point of my head literally exploding if sporting events hadn't been called off this weekend. Splendid stuff. I very much doubt that you have ever read either rag from cover to cover, based mainly on your use of the word 'egregious' in an earlier post. Are you Joe Lycett?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 10, 2022 10:47:27 GMT 1
What the "call it off" folks on here don't appear to get, is that they did not have to go to a game this weekend if they didn't want to. They could have shown their own "respect" by not going if they were so "upset". How f***ing dare they impose their faux ideals on the rest of us. Wow I hope this is not your real opinion There is no real respect given if you cancel events, its just enforced and nothing happens. The day of her death and the day of the Funeral should have been made sacrosant and all other events should have been postponed along with closing of everything non essential. A full national show of the enormity of the death was required but the target needed to be narrowed and sharpened, not this half arsed longer period of bits and bobs. A full 10 day showing of the country celebrating her life and service was needed, not a bit part grabbing of the 'required' grief or sadness at her death. They got it wrong..
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 10, 2022 11:12:22 GMT 1
This is the FA imposing their decision here, not reading the room and not realising how powerful for their brand this would have been. I’ve no doubt there may have been some concerns that a minute of silence would not have been observed, but in this case I really think anyone doing that would have been quickly dealt with. Even in some of the more obvious places, I think they would have respected this, because of who it was for. So if that was part of the rationale for postponement, it’s a pretty bold assumption on their part, and would prove what they think of the people that keep their game alive and thriving. And yet people are unfortunately worse than you/we might expect to give them credit for...
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Post by York Terrier on Sept 10, 2022 11:12:48 GMT 1
Wow I hope this is not your real opinion There is no real respect given if you cancel events, its just enforced and nothing happens. The day of her death and the day of the Funeral should have been made sacrosant and all other events should have been postponed along with closing of everything non essential. A full national show of the enormity of the death was required but the target needed to be narrowed and sharpened, not this half arsed longer period of bits and bobs. A full 10 day showing of the country celebrating her life and service was needed, not a bit part grabbing of the 'required' grief or sadness at her death. They got it wrong.. Well thanks for that a far more tactful post than your first one and I would agree with a lot of your sentiment
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 10, 2022 11:18:11 GMT 1
Two different posters pal. Similar sentiment though, worded differently.
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Post by OneDarrenBullock on Sept 10, 2022 11:20:17 GMT 1
I read the Express and the Mail cover to cover every day and frankly I would have been outraged to the point of my head literally exploding if sporting events hadn't been called off this weekend. Splendid stuff. I very much doubt that you have ever read either rag from cover to cover, based mainly on your use of the word 'egregious' in an earlier post. Are you Joe Lycett? I'm fairly certain stanton1969 was taking the piss
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 10, 2022 11:21:25 GMT 1
Just watching the cricket. They got it spot on IMO.
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Post by Melc on Sept 10, 2022 11:36:54 GMT 1
FWIW, George VI died on Wednesday 6th of February 1952 and was buried on the 15th. No games were missed, Town played the following two Saturdays, 9th and 16th...at the time we were rock bottom of the 22 team 1st division. We stayed in the relegation zone (where we'd been since October) through until the penultimate game of the season. The final game of the season was away at already relegated Fulham. We had to match or beat Stokes result at Middlesborough to guarantee survival (would have been same points but we had a better goal average). Stoke won. Fulham, who had not won in 11 games since the Kings death, beat us, and we were relegated Add the Danny Schofield effect and the rest is history!
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 10, 2022 11:52:38 GMT 1
There is no real respect given if you cancel events, its just enforced and nothing happens. The day of her death and the day of the Funeral should have been made sacrosant and all other events should have been postponed along with closing of everything non essential. A full national show of the enormity of the death was required but the target needed to be narrowed and sharpened, not this half arsed longer period of bits and bobs. A full 10 day showing of the country celebrating her life and service was needed, not a bit part grabbing of the 'required' grief or sadness at her death. They got it wrong.. Well thanks for that a far more tactful post than your first one and I would agree with a lot of your sentiment About right, we need tact and respect at her death but it needed to be aimed better , whilst the celebration of a long life, well lived in a very difficult position much of the time, needed to be front and centre and the main thrust. Its a difficult time for many, the death of the Queen has been added unfortunately, the life needed to be far, far more important and celebrated rather than the death and sadness. We regularly see the very young who die being celebrated for what they brought in a short time here, someone should be learning from that. They havent, they reverted to sack cloth and ashes, they got it wrong.
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 10, 2022 11:55:01 GMT 1
The FA and Football League's reasoning is bonkers. Because some might be disrespectful. That's life I'm afraid. The overwhelming majority of people would have respected it. One or two nutters can't be allowed to get in the way of everyone else.
Just once the national anthem should have been played. There should have been a minute's silence or applause (for all the event is sad, celebrating her life and years of service feels more appropriate). Then get on with it. Life does go on, and it takes some focus away from her family, who are, after all, grieving in the public eye.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 10, 2022 12:27:01 GMT 1
I think they’ve scored a huge own goal here. Imagine the TV and the media this weekend, showing the tributes and players wearing black armbands. Where will that get coverage now? The racing? The cricket? To have 100 odd football games across the length and breadth of the UK showing that sort of tribute would be more symbolic than a blank set of fixtures. This is not being disrespectful in any way to the Queen or the royal family. The Govt advice was ‘at the discretion’, which you could argue was a cop-out, but in this rare case I’ll defend them and suggest they were taking the practical view, also after discussion with reps of the Royal family no doubt. This is the FA imposing their decision here, not reading the room and not realising how powerful for their brand this would have been. I’ve no doubt there may have been some concerns that a minute of silence would not have been observed, but in this case I really think anyone doing that would have been quickly dealt with. Even in some of the more obvious places, I think they would have respected this, because of who it was for. So if that was part of the rationale for postponement, it’s a pretty bold assumption on their part, and would prove what they think of the people that keep their game alive and thriving. If you think I’m being disrespectful to Brenda here, then please read my contributions to the OT thread. The FAs decision making stinks. Whatever I think on an any football related matter they will go with something opposite. I fuckin despise them. They have no background as supporters and no idea how supporters think.
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 10, 2022 12:58:40 GMT 1
Just watching the cricket. They got it spot on IMO. At the rugby. And they have too.
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Post by tommydee on Sept 10, 2022 13:03:27 GMT 1
How did you all cope in the off season? Well in summer I don't look forward to football matches at the weekend All the thrills of the results etc. Also I don't buy tickets for a non existent match I don't book a train ticket to take me to a non existent match. I don't book a hotel in a random town. Quite easy really. Why do you actually go if you're not bothered? I just don’t get outraged as much as you. I’ve gone to the park with the kids instead, and then have a beer later. It’s not the end of the world.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 10, 2022 13:06:04 GMT 1
Well in summer I don't look forward to football matches at the weekend All the thrills of the results etc. Also I don't buy tickets for a non existent match I don't book a train ticket to take me to a non existent match. I don't book a hotel in a random town. Quite easy really. Why do you actually go if you're not bothered? I just don’t get outraged as much as you. I’ve gone to the park with the kids instead, and then have a beer later. It’s not the end of the world. I'm not outraged. I've got plenty on today and tonight. Just like to follow football on a Saturday. I can't understand why uts off. Nothing else is. As I say if you're not bothered why even come on here?
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 10, 2022 13:06:50 GMT 1
What is more ridiculous is that the lazy bastard politicians are not working for 12 days it’s not as if the country isn’t in disarray. Over paid wankers .
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Post by einediemengedochsen on Sept 10, 2022 13:18:15 GMT 1
Right, what time does the game start tonight… Right after tea. Down at the rec - don’t forget your jumper for goalposts. Ended half eight when it got too dark to see and ball owner Jimmy's mam called him in for supper. Final score 18- 14.
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Post by space hardware on Sept 10, 2022 13:47:06 GMT 1
Liverpool and Celtic would have been at home today. I think we all know what the reaction to any playing of the anthem or a minute's silence at those two grounds would have been.
The FA shit out in no small part because of this, I reckon.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 10, 2022 13:48:48 GMT 1
This is the FA imposing their decision here, not reading the room and not realising how powerful for their brand this would have been. I’ve no doubt there may have been some concerns that a minute of silence would not have been observed, but in this case I really think anyone doing that would have been quickly dealt with. Even in some of the more obvious places, I think they would have respected this, because of who it was for. So if that was part of the rationale for postponement, it’s a pretty bold assumption on their part, and would prove what they think of the people that keep their game alive and thriving. And yet people are unfortunately worse than you/we might expect to give them credit for... I would hope that would have been a minority had games been played this weekend. Unfortunately I don’t have 65 other games to show you where these things are observed impeccably…
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Post by deepc on Sept 10, 2022 14:40:36 GMT 1
I was booked on the train to QPR this morning. FA called the games off yesterday to show respect.
If I had travelled down this morning I could have gone to the Oval or to Wentworth for the golf.
Are those sports showing disrespect by playing on?
So, here I am sat at home watching cricket and golf on TV when I should have been helping out hard pressed Hammersmith landlords.
Can anyone explain it for me.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 10, 2022 14:47:26 GMT 1
And yet people are unfortunately worse than you/we might expect to give them credit for... I would hope that would have been a minority had games been played this weekend. Unfortunately I don’t have 65 other games to show you where these things are observed impeccably… Have to admit that some are 'fair game' for abuse and worse, some are now heavily protected, even grossly over protected. The Royal Family, the anthem, any part of British (english) history, are not part of this protection. There has been some really offensive shit put out there and its likely that one or two sets of fans might have, might still be offensive, using their free speech which they deny to others, but overall I believe the response would have been very, very positive, might still be? We understimate our national pride and we overestimate and give far too much creedence to the screaming anti fucking everybody and everything apart from my really narrow opinion, folk.
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Post by orinoco on Sept 10, 2022 15:39:52 GMT 1
Its not hard to stay silent for a minute even if you dont agree with tbe reason for it
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Post by stanton1969 on Sept 10, 2022 15:40:44 GMT 1
I read the Express and the Mail cover to cover every day and frankly I would have been outraged to the point of my head literally exploding if sporting events hadn't been called off this weekend. Splendid stuff. I very much doubt that you have ever read either rag from cover to cover, based mainly on your use of the word 'egregious' in an earlier post. Are you Joe Lycett? no but I nicked his trope
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 10, 2022 15:49:31 GMT 1
So, does anyone know when we’ll know about the midweek games, or are we expected to guess?
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Sept 10, 2022 16:03:01 GMT 1
After 70 years dedicated service to the country, surely the least us mere mortals can do is put up with no football for a couple of days. Plus as we are shite it gives a few more says for the new signings to bed in and potentially improve us. The pomp, ceremony, and heritage is what makes Britain great, and sets us apart from all the lesser countries. Name one thing that is great apart from the Curry houses and what’s this lesser countries nonsense you will be calling their inhabitants picker ninnies next !
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Sept 10, 2022 16:06:12 GMT 1
Check out their association with Saville (where’s the inquiry ) Rolf Harris Epstein and their part in Diana’s assassination
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 10, 2022 16:15:48 GMT 1
The FA and Football League's reasoning is bonkers. Because some might be disrespectful. That's life I'm afraid. The overwhelming majority of people would have respected it. One or two nutters can't be allowed to get in the way of everyone else. Just once the national anthem should have been played. There should have been a minute's silence or applause (for all the event is sad, celebrating her life and years of service feels more appropriate). Then get on with it. Life does go on, and it takes some focus away from her family, who are, after all, grieving in the public eye. Were Liverpool at home? I can certainly see a situation where any attempted minutes silence, or applause or national anthem would be drowned out by their fans booing, which would have made headlines for all the wrong reasons. Pretty much guarantee it in fact. We saw that at the cup finals last season. They should have just postponed the Liverpool game. If they dont like that then tough. Serves them right for being disrespectful arseholes. On the whole everyone else, whether a royalist or a republican is capable of showing respect for the queens passing.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 10, 2022 16:16:30 GMT 1
Check out their association with Saville (where’s the inquiry ) Rolf Harris Epstein and their part in Diana’s assassination Give it a rest FFS.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 10, 2022 16:17:18 GMT 1
And yet people are unfortunately worse than you/we might expect to give them credit for... I would hope that would have been a minority had games been played this weekend. Unfortunately I don’t have 65 other games to show you where these things are observed impeccably… Surprised me that. I always thought Hearts were like Edinburgh Rangers equivalent.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 10, 2022 16:19:50 GMT 1
The FA and Football League's reasoning is bonkers. Because some might be disrespectful. That's life I'm afraid. The overwhelming majority of people would have respected it. One or two nutters can't be allowed to get in the way of everyone else. Just once the national anthem should have been played. There should have been a minute's silence or applause (for all the event is sad, celebrating her life and years of service feels more appropriate). Then get on with it. Life does go on, and it takes some focus away from her family, who are, after all, grieving in the public eye. Were Liverpool at home? I can certainly see a situation where any attempted minutes silence, or applause or national anthem would be drowned out by their fans booing, which would have made headlines for all the wrong reasons. Pretty much guarantee it in fact. We saw that at the cup finals last season. They should have just postponed the Liverpool game. If they dont like that then tough. Serves them right for being disrespectful arseholes. On the whole everyone else, whether a royalist or a republican is capable of showing respect for the queens passing. I agree. I'm not a Royalty but I'm capable of standing in silence for a minute or two. Anyway they are saltillo going to have the silence when the games are actually played. Seemed like we had about 10 when Duke of Edinburgh died.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Sept 10, 2022 16:36:38 GMT 1
Check out their association with Saville (where’s the inquiry ) Rolf Harris Epstein and their part in Diana’s assassination Give it a rest FFS. Well she might not have been aware I can accept that but cmon Phil Charlie Andy be a bit naive to think they didn’t at least know anything and if by chance they didn’t the security services would have Anyway off with my head for not being an hypnotised sheep
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