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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 10, 2022 16:46:10 GMT 1
So if you dont go along with inane conspiracy theories youre a hypnotised sheep? Is it really the time for peddling such fantasist garbage?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 10, 2022 16:48:21 GMT 1
So if you dont go along with inane conspiracy theories youre a hypnotised sheep? Is it really the time for peddling such fantasist garbage? No. It’s a time to show some respect.
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Post by mids on Sept 10, 2022 18:30:05 GMT 1
After 70 years dedicated service to the country, surely the least us mere mortals can do is put up with no football for a couple of days. Plus as we are shite it gives a few more says for the new signings to bed in and potentially improve us. The pomp, ceremony, and heritage is what makes Britain great, and sets us apart from all the lesser countries. Name one thing that is great apart from the Curry houses and what’s this lesser countries nonsense you will be calling their inhabitants picker ninnies next ! A ridiculous post from a supposed adult. Honestly, some people never fail to disappoint.
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Post by offsideclyde on Sept 10, 2022 20:05:54 GMT 1
Yes it should.
Those that don't like it or dislike the Monarch should make sure they work the Bank Holiday.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 10, 2022 20:21:03 GMT 1
I think the answer should have been yes on the day of her death and definitely on the day of the funeral but any further postponement had to be sport across the board for the Friday and the weekend, if it were to make any 'respectful' point. The idea that next weekend the authorities cant sort out the policing for games in London along with a Funeral on monday sort of begs the question that they managed it for around 20 days for the Olympics and the football will be done by 7pm on Sunday??? The Met will be able to call on extra funds from Govt to cover the extra spending/manpower, from about 6.30pm on the day the Queen died? The planning for this event has always been in place and has been updated very, very regularly as the Queen became older and then very elderly. She has been quite unwell at times over the last year or so, there is no real excuse that this is not somewhat expected???
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 10, 2022 20:44:20 GMT 1
Yes it should. Those that don't like it or dislike the Monarch should make sure they work the Bank Holiday. They won't.
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Post by offsideclyde on Sept 10, 2022 21:26:32 GMT 1
Exactly.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 10, 2022 21:34:22 GMT 1
Yes it should. Those that don't like it or dislike the Monarch should make sure they work the Bank Holiday. They won't. I'll gladly work next Monday because if I don't I'll be a day behind with my work and deadlines won't be extended.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 10, 2022 21:40:16 GMT 1
Yes it should. Those that don't like it or dislike the Monarch should make sure they work the Bank Holiday. They won't. Im mostly retired now, can I just work the morning??? I liked the monarch, I just dont like those that made the decision about the football. I dont think for a second it was made with 'respect for the Queen' in their minds.
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Post by softboy on Sept 10, 2022 21:44:34 GMT 1
Because i'm bored (trip to London cancelled today) I thought I would have a quick look on Bookings.com and it seems to be a lot more expensive to go to London next Sunday to Tuesday that any other similar period. I guess this is out of respect to the Queen!
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Post by drumriggend on Sept 10, 2022 21:51:40 GMT 1
Unprecedented times..
Who’s to say what’s right or wrong..
We are all fortunate to have lived through a time of peace..
Reigned over by a monarch who was hugely respected and loved..
Previous generations didn’t have that luxury..
And I don’t think future generations will either..
I for one am looking forrard to the majesty of a British state funeral..
NOBODY does pomp and circumstance like we do..
God bless the queen..
Long live the king..
🍻
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Post by tommydee on Sept 10, 2022 21:57:09 GMT 1
Just checking everyone got through the day ok?
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Post by jakeg on Sept 10, 2022 21:58:56 GMT 1
I've read all of the responses on this and this is how I summarise it. It is not disrespectful to have played football this weekend but a decision was made.
I'm no great fan of the FA or FL but they had to make a decision. We should show respect for our Queen- a constant for all of my 51 years and longer still. Respect could.have been postponing these fixtures or playing them and holding the respectful tribute shown at the cricket.
For what's its worth I voted to.postpone this weekend, but only this weekend. But I completely accept that there are alternative views
I have no problem with most of the views expressed on the thread- virtually everyone agrees that respect is due but differ as to the way thats done
I have major and irreconcilable differences with those that can't show respect in whatever way. You might believe in the monarchy or not but a great number of people in this country feel loss and uncertainty that an institution has gone.
It's done and gone as a decision. Onwards to the next game and hope that our fortunes turn (and we stop trying to use unsubstantiated rumours from a club owner most of us wouldnt cross the street to help and treat them.as gospel truth).
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Post by sapphireblue on Sept 10, 2022 21:59:11 GMT 1
After 70 years dedicated service to the country, surely the least us mere mortals can do is put up with no football for a couple of days. Plus as we are shite it gives a few more says for the new signings to bed in and potentially improve us. The pomp, ceremony, and heritage is what makes Britain great, and sets us apart from all the lesser countries. "mere mortals" You ****ing idiot. Didn't Thursday show you that was exactly what Elizabeth II was, a mere mortal? (Edit: for all you Wordle or Lingo fans out there, the missing letters are f l a and m. Any personal abuse here is in your own filthy minds)
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Post by offsideclyde on Sept 10, 2022 22:38:33 GMT 1
Yes just work the morning.
Then have the afternoon off and show a little bit of respect.
And don't get upset that football was cancelled for a weekend.
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Post by sensible idiot on Sept 10, 2022 22:40:01 GMT 1
Just checking everyone got through the day ok? No, I didn’t. I saw a few folk on TV who appeared more upset than me…. I’ll have to up my game if that’s the level of competition.
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Post by alexdire on Sept 10, 2022 22:44:56 GMT 1
I think it was a ridiculous decision. Especially stopping junior football. The only game that should have been postponed this weekend was the Hearts game scheduled for tomorrow. That would have been for logistical reasons with the procession in Edinburgh tomorrow.
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Post by space hardware on Sept 10, 2022 22:48:41 GMT 1
Yes it should. Those that don't like it or dislike the Monarch should make sure they work the Bank Holiday. As someone who runs their own business, I'll be working. So stick that in your fucking pipe lad.
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Post by offsideclyde on Sept 10, 2022 22:52:54 GMT 1
Brilliant.
Chuffed for you.
And for the FA for getting it right too.
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Post by space hardware on Sept 10, 2022 22:59:06 GMT 1
Brilliant. Chuffed for you. And for the FA for getting it right too. Are you chuffed for me running a business or working next week? Bit confused here TBH
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Post by stevvy on Sept 10, 2022 23:02:13 GMT 1
I like how you say those who don't like the monarchy or don't like the decision to sack football off for a few days should make sure they work on the day of the funeral. It's a bit difficult if your workplace is closed that day, which for a lot of people, it will be......
I'd happily work that day, means I avoid the tedium and the general irrelevance of it to me, however I may not have a choice in the matter if the company closes for the day, same as millions of others
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Post by offsideclyde on Sept 10, 2022 23:02:22 GMT 1
Just talking with my fucking pipe lad.
Chuffed the FA made a right decision and that you have decided to work on the Bank Holiday.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 10, 2022 23:03:21 GMT 1
Unprecedented times.. Who’s to say what’s right or wrong.. We are all fortunate to have lived through a time of peace.. Reigned over by a monarch who was hugely respected and loved.. Previous generations didn’t have that luxury.. And I don’t think future generations will either.. I for one am looking forrard to the majesty of a British state funeral.. NOBODY does pomp and circumstance like we do.. God bless the queen.. Long live the king.. 🍻 I’m with you Drum.
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Post by space hardware on Sept 10, 2022 23:24:17 GMT 1
Just talking with my fucking pipe lad. Chuffed the FA made a right decision and that you have decided to work on the Bank Holiday. Cool.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 0:02:28 GMT 1
This grief policing needs to stop - it's ridiculous and embarrassing. A reminder that more than one in four want to see the monarchy abolished, support is about 60% - link. It would be disrespectful for those of us who don't much care for the Royal family to express any sort of happiness or satisfaction that a very old woman has passed away - but from what I've seen, the overwhelming majority of people have been entirely respectful on that count. Apart from a fish & chip-shop owner in Scotland, the number is vanishingly small. That's respect. Equally, it's not at all disrespectful for someone to say that as far as they're concerned - a very old woman has passed away, and there's not really much more to it for them, other than acknowledging that a very old woman that they never met has passed away. No more, no less. The idea that everybody should feel the loss equally just because they're British is ludicrous. A signifiant majority think the monarchy should be abolished, many have Irish blood, many are second or third generation immigrants from former British colonies who have every right to object to the monarchy - and a lot of people are still absolutely furious about the Andrew affair. The vast majority of those people are maintaining a dignified silence right now - out of respect. If people want to mourn, that's absolutely fine - but accept that many, many people don't feel the same sense of loss that you do. And yes, football should've gone ahead this weekend - of course it should.
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Post by offsideclyde on Sept 11, 2022 7:21:58 GMT 1
And I am sure those one in four you mentioned will enjoy taking the Bank Holiday too. If they want the Monarchy 1abolished they should make sure they find some sort of employment next Monday.
It's about the wider context of everything. Cancelling football was always going to happen and the right decision by the FA.
I don't see the issues.
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Sept 11, 2022 7:49:31 GMT 1
FWIW, George VI died on Wednesday 6th of February 1952 and was buried on the 15th. No games were missed, Town played the following two Saturdays, 9th and 16th...at the time we were rock bottom of the 22 team 1st division. We stayed in the relegation zone (where we'd been since October) through until the penultimate game of the season. The final game of the season was away at already relegated Fulham. We had to match or beat Stokes result at Middlesborough to guarantee survival (would have been same points but we had a better goal average). Stoke won. Fulham, who had not won in 11 games since the Kings death, beat us, and we were relegated So what you're saying is that Huddersfield always get relegated in the year a ruling monarch dies.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 7:51:08 GMT 1
For those who are saying we do pomp and ceremony better than anyone. Here’s part of the reason why.
From an article about Operation London Bridge on the Guardian website. It’s a long & good read but I found this bit interesting, ref: the pomp etc.
For a long time, the art of royal spectacle was for other, weaker peoples: Italians, Russians, and Habsburgs. British ritual occasions were a mess. At the funeral of Princess Charlotte, in 1817, the undertakers were drunk.
Ten years later, St George’s Chapel was so cold during the burial of the Duke of York that George Canning, the foreign secretary, contracted rheumatic fever and the bishop of London died. “We never saw so motley, so rude, so ill-managed a body of persons,” reported the Times on the funeral of George IV, in 1830.
Victoria’s coronation a few years later was nothing to write home about. The clergy got lost in the words; the singing was awful; and the royal jewellers made the coronation ring for the wrong finger. “Some nations have a gift for ceremonial,” the Marquess of Salisbury wrote in 1860. “In England the case is exactly the reverse.”
What we think of as the ancient rituals of the monarchy were mainly crafted in the late 19th century, towards the end of Victoria’s reign. Courtiers, politicians and constitutional theorists such as Walter Bagehot worried about the dismal sight of the Empress of India trooping around Windsor in her donkey cart. If the crown was going to give up its executive authority, it would have to inspire loyalty and awe by other means – and theatre was part of the answer. “The more democratic we get,” wrote Bagehot in 1867, “the more we shall get to like state and show.”
Obsessed by death, Victoria planned her own funeral with some style. But it was her son, Edward VII, who is largely responsible for reviving royal display. One courtier praised his “curious power of visualising a pageant”. He turned the state opening of parliament and military drills, like the Trooping of the Colour, into full fancy-dress occasions, and at his own passing, resurrected the medieval ritual of lying in state. Hundreds of thousands of subjects filed past his coffin in Westminster Hall in 1910, granting a new sense of intimacy to the body of the sovereign. By 1932, George V was a national father figure, giving the first royal Christmas speech to the nation – a tradition that persists today – in a radio address written for him by Rudyard Kipling.
The shambles and the remoteness of the 19th-century monarchy were replaced by an idealised family and historic pageantry invented in the 20th. In 1909, Kaiser Wilhelm II boasted about the quality of German martial processions: “The English cannot come up to us in this sort of thing.” Now we all know that no one else quite does it like the British.
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Post by stevvy on Sept 11, 2022 7:55:50 GMT 1
🤣 yeah because everyone can suddenly find work for just 1 day with barely a weeks notice.
Hilarious
Other sports have got it right by carrying on (even if after a gap of a day or 2). Same with everything else too. Shows are still going ahead (be it comedians shows on tour, or a play or whatever). Businesses are open as normal.
Had the guidance been that all sports or whatever else had to stop, no exceptions, fair enough, but that's not the case, and everyone else has (or will be doing from today) carried on as normal.
Is other sport or other events (comedy shows, plays etc as I said) carrying on the right decision? Yup. Is it disrespectful? Nope.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 7:59:20 GMT 1
And I am sure those one in four you mentioned will enjoy taking the Bank Holiday too. If they want the Monarchy 1abolished they should make sure they find some sort of employment next Monday. It's about the wider context of everything. Cancelling football was always going to happen and the right decision by the FA. I don't see the issues. Ah, the usual “if you’re not… …then” So any atheists should be working across Easter & Christmas then? I’ve not spoken to anyone who thought postponing the games was a good idea. As I’ve posted earlier in this thread, the spectacle of so much respect would have been quite powerful. When the midweek games go ahead it’ll have lost the symbolism. If common sense gets ignored and midweek games are postponed, then I think the FA will be inundated with shite, and rightly so. None of this is disrespectful, royalist or not.
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