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Post by alexdire on Sept 13, 2022 22:35:32 GMT 1
Just my opinion - when McClean at the end of the match walks around sarcastically clapping and waving goodbye to the Town fans I wondered why so many Town players decided to go over and shake his hand after seeing him do it. That might have been something to do with fans being more bothered about booing him all game than supporting their own team. Baffling. We had a team? |
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Post by impact on Sept 13, 2022 22:36:03 GMT 1
I know it's me about Holmes again but does anyone agree with Chicken that he was a 7/10 and level with Kasumu as Towns best player 😯😯😯 I'm far from a Holmes lover but I thought he was decent tonight to be honest. Anything remotely good first half involved him, including Ward's sitter. |
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 13, 2022 22:36:07 GMT 1
I know it's me about Holmes again but does anyone agree with Chicken that he was a 7/10 and level with Kasumu as Towns best player 😯😯😯 He did ok first half. Much better than most. Put one on a plate for sorba but Danny decided to get in the way and blast it over. Not good enough at this level most weeks though |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Sept 13, 2022 22:37:49 GMT 1
Holmes for me looks like he is lost. No confidence. Not sure what our tactics and philosophy is? We don't press high,we don't break well enough and we don't support the players enough. We don't run beyond the ball and our set plays are terrible. I cannot see any options at all... Thought Holmes played well meself. He has the ability to score goals (not that we've seen it this season). Didnt like his hissy fit when taken off but at least it shows some feelings. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2022 22:40:12 GMT 1
Awful first half. I hope Danny can now see the side he needs to start against Cardiff, which other than putting Rhodes on, and no knock at Rhodes, but the other subs really changed the game. Nakayama started playing as a wing back. Tino attacked them down the middle and gave Kasumu and Rudoni space to work. KKH and Pat Jones look they could build quite a partnership. Wigan were really lucky in that last half hour.
The things which rattle me are we started with entirely the wrong players. That is a concern. If Kasumu can start why not KKH and Jones, they really improved us. The other thing is we struggled against a kick it long, head it on to a fast frontman side. We should be able to stop teams like that.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 13, 2022 22:40:17 GMT 1
I know it makes no difference, but is there evidence to see if the ball crossed the line before Lees scored? It dididn'look over to me, and I had a pretty good view. I certainly hope they've tested the hawkeye at that goal since the last game many many times over. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 13, 2022 22:41:40 GMT 1
When are Refs going to grow some balls and book for blatant time wasting. Same for Town as well.
It kills the game for the supporters, and seems to be getting far worse.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 13, 2022 22:42:26 GMT 1
Awful first half. I hope Danny can now see the side he needs to start against Cardiff, which other than putting Rhodes on, and no knock at Rhodes, but the other subs really changed the game. Nakayama started playing as a wing back. Tino attacked them down the middle and gave Kasumu and Rudoni space to work. KKH and Pat Jones look they could build quite a partnership. Wigan were really lucky in that last half hour. The things which rattle me are we started with entirely the wrong players. That is a concern. If Kasumu can start why not KKH and Jones, they really improved us. The other thing is we struggled against a kick it long, head it on to a fast frontman side. We should be able to stop teams like that. KKH was awful. Nearly everything he did went wrong |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 13, 2022 22:43:09 GMT 1
I know it's me about Holmes again but does anyone agree with Chicken that he was a 7/10 and level with Kasumu as Towns best player 😯😯😯 I'm far from a Holmes lover but I thought he was decent tonight to be honest. Anything remotely good first half involved him, including Ward's sitter. First half he got in a great position a few times, and every time he checked his run and went backwards. A fresh Holmes off the bench against a tiring defence is really effective, but if he starts he's blowing out his arse by 60mins. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 13, 2022 22:44:39 GMT 1
Not getting anywhere until we stop conceding and needing more than five chances to score. If Schofield is still in place on Saturday the crowd might be lower than 10k.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 13, 2022 22:44:46 GMT 1
Awful first half. I hope Danny can now see the side he needs to start against Cardiff, which other than putting Rhodes on, and no knock at Rhodes, but the other subs really changed the game. Nakayama started playing as a wing back. Tino attacked them down the middle and gave Kasumu and Rudoni space to work. KKH and Pat Jones look they could build quite a partnership. Wigan were really lucky in that last half hour. The things which rattle me are we started with entirely the wrong players. That is a concern. If Kasumu can start why not KKH and Jones, they really improved us. The other thing is we struggled against a kick it long, head it on to a fast frontman side. We should be able to stop teams like that. KKH was awful. Nearly everything he did went wrong I've yet to see him play well, he certainly doesn't look like the player the Villa fans were raving over |
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Post by shawsie on Sept 13, 2022 22:45:35 GMT 1
Awful first half. I hope Danny can now see the side he needs to start against Cardiff, which other than putting Rhodes on, and no knock at Rhodes, but the other subs really changed the game. Nakayama started playing as a wing back. Tino attacked them down the middle and gave Kasumu and Rudoni space to work. KKH and Pat Jones look they could build quite a partnership. Wigan were really lucky in that last half hour. The things which rattle me are we started with entirely the wrong players. That is a concern. If Kasumu can start why not KKH and Jones, they really improved us. The other thing is we struggled against a kick it long, head it on to a fast frontman side. We should be able to stop teams like that. KKH was awful. Nearly everything he did went wrong Confidence shot.......not helped by an awful challenge leading up to the winner when he had no need to go for it. Hes not alone though - sadly the manager aint up to it for me. Thomas on the left is something only he can see and the lack of midfield structure is embarrassing. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 13, 2022 22:46:19 GMT 1
I know it's me about Holmes again but does anyone agree with Chicken that he was a 7/10 and level with Kasumu as Towns best player 😯😯😯 I know there are a lot of Holmes haters on here but I thought he was decent tonight if we're being fair. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 13, 2022 22:46:23 GMT 1
When are Refs going to grow some balls and book for blatant time wasting. Same for Town as well. It kills the game for the supporters, and seems to be getting far worse. Jeremy Simpson was an absolute disgrace today. Booked Thomas at half time for arguing with him, then several times in the second half he was surrounded by Wigan players and no cards shown... I can only hope that Thomas gave him a real zinger to provoke the booking. Something about him being fat and slow and utterly incapable of keeping up with play. Hopefully at the next international break, Sorba can learn a few Welsh insults that will go over any ref's head. |
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Post by ACW on Sept 13, 2022 22:46:32 GMT 1
They’re B team signings. Rudoni, Kasumu, Mbete, Boyle, KKH would probably be fine one League One but they’re out of their depth at this level. Kasumu wasn't out of his depth tonight. Plenty of excellent moments with some ropey bits thrown in. He was good on the ball, but his positioning was awful at times. Always positioned himself with a Wigan player between himself and the ball meaning he wasn't available for a pass on far too many occasions. Not sure why he did this because he looked quite good when he did get on the ball. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 13, 2022 22:47:14 GMT 1
Can anyone calculate how many players we’ve used in our starting line ups this season, in the 8 league games. It feels like we’ve used 20+ players already.
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Post by paulsmith1954 on Sept 13, 2022 22:49:14 GMT 1
I hate this club sometimes. Continually run by tight, visionless Yorkshiremen. My only hope is that Hoyle’s pancreas gives in before we go down. Shocking comment that Don’t know who you are matey, but obviously an odious cretin. I am currently on palliative care for pancreatic cancer, and believe me I would wish this on no one, nor on anything that lives and breathes. Cannot believe that anyone would come out with a comment like that over a f*****g football game. I seriously hope that someone outs you matey, because the world is in a shitty enough place right now without a vile comment like that. Just pray that you don’t get the same problem during your life mate. |
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Post by paulsg on Sept 13, 2022 22:49:26 GMT 1
Holmes’s was furious when he came off, that demonstrates to me that he actually cares.
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 13, 2022 22:50:10 GMT 1
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Post by harris on Sept 13, 2022 22:50:35 GMT 1
Holmes’s was furious when he came off, that demonstrates to me that he actually cares. And has no respect for Schofield. Same as Thomas. 0 discipline the lot of them, complete opposite to last season |
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Post by impact on Sept 13, 2022 22:50:49 GMT 1
Defending for the first from Helik and then Mbete is awful.
I don't think it's too bad from Lees for the 2nd to be honest. Could have stayed tighter but he's taken him away from goal and forced him off balance when he's hit it. It's very poor keeping. The angle behind the goal is damning. That should never go in.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 13, 2022 22:52:54 GMT 1
Don’t know who you are matey, but obviously an odious cretin. I am currently on palliative care for pancreatic cancer, and believe me I would wish this on no one, nor on anything that lives and breathes. Cannot believe that anyone would come out with a comment like that over a f*****g football game. I seriously hope that someone outs you matey, because the world is in a shitty enough place right now without a vile comment like that. Just pray that you don’t get the same problem during your life mate. All the best mate. Cancer of any sort is an absolute bastard. |
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Post by impact on Sept 13, 2022 22:53:11 GMT 1
I'm far from a Holmes lover but I thought he was decent tonight to be honest. Anything remotely good first half involved him, including Ward's sitter. First half he got in a great position a few times, and every time he checked his run and went backwards. A fresh Holmes off the bench against a tiring defence is really effective, but if he starts he's blowing out his arse by 60mins. He created the best chance of the game 1st half by driving down the line and putting a great ball in. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 13, 2022 22:53:33 GMT 1
Don’t know who you are matey, but obviously an odious cretin. I am currently on palliative care for pancreatic cancer, and believe me I would wish this on no one, nor on anything that lives and breathes. Cannot believe that anyone would come out with a comment like that over a f*****g football game. I seriously hope that someone outs you matey, because the world is in a shitty enough place right now without a vile comment like that. Just pray that you don’t get the same problem during your life mate. All the best mate. Cancer of any sort is an absolute bastard. (I'd apologise for the double post, but this is fine being said twice.) |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 13, 2022 22:54:46 GMT 1
First half he got in a great position a few times, and every time he checked his run and went backwards. A fresh Holmes off the bench against a tiring defence is really effective, but if he starts he's blowing out his arse by 60mins. He created the best chance of the game 1st half by driving down the line and putting a great ball in. Okay. Every time but one then  |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 13, 2022 22:54:47 GMT 1
Can only wish you all the best Paul Smith.
If your post doesn’t wake that person up, nothing will.
All the best…
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Post by Larry David on Sept 13, 2022 22:54:56 GMT 1
I know it's me about Holmes again but does anyone agree with Chicken that he was a 7/10 and level with Kasumu as Towns best player 😯😯😯 He was effective tonight and shouldn't have been taken off. Saying that tino did well when he came on. Had they both been on instead of 36 centre backs we may have got something from the game. |
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Post by shawsie on Sept 13, 2022 22:55:13 GMT 1
Kasumu wasn't out of his depth tonight. Plenty of excellent moments with some ropey bits thrown in. He was good on the ball, but his positioning was awful at times. Always positioned himself with a Wigan player between himself and the ball meaning he wasn't available for a pass on far too many occasions. Not sure why he did this because he looked quite good when he did get on the ball. He hid sir.....saw it a few times - didnt want the ball. Why we play this way with players just not suited to it is beyond me. |
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Post by mids on Sept 13, 2022 22:58:24 GMT 1
I know it's me about Holmes again but does anyone agree with Chicken that he was a 7/10 and level with Kasumu as Towns best player 😯😯😯 Yeah Duane was very good tonight...no wonder he smacked the dugout as he went to just seat...plenty more should have been hauled off before him. Having said that his replacement is exceptional...just not very fit |
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Post by space hardware on Sept 13, 2022 22:59:41 GMT 1
They both look like tidy enough players but if anyone swallowed the "Rudoni + Kasumu = O'Brien" bullshit, they must be fucking puddled.
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