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Post by space hardware on Sept 14, 2022 16:16:57 GMT 1
Ive heard Wagners in talks over a 1 year contract but wants more say on transfers than Carlos had.. which was basically none. Think thats what he had before wasnt it.. a 1 year rolling deal ? I think that Dr Nose is a chancer to be honest I can think of a different word. He's almost as bad as that Sandra twat.
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Post by detox on Sept 14, 2022 16:18:34 GMT 1
Holye's quote resurrected by the BBC today: "Danny had been offered a job on the continent and he wanted to take it. As disappointed as we are to have lost Carlos, and we are, thank goodness we kept hold of Danny because he was the succession plan and always had been." Hollow words from a hollow man. Let's hope Danny gets some good offers soon. Appoints him and gets slated for appointing him. Fans call for sacking. Sacks him because it isn't working. Fans call him hollow. It's a results business, everyone knows that. Unless you're saying DH didn't do due dilligence, didn't scan the market.. Whatever, he's misjudged Danny..like Robins and Powell, Siewert, the Cowleys, and even Carlos in the end. The decision making has to be questioned, the criteria we set to fill the post..we don't know all the details or any of the facts about this process, but we do know it didn't work.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 14, 2022 16:19:15 GMT 1
How are those hollow words? It was clearly the plan.. the fact it hasnt worked out as hoped doesnt mean it wasnt the plan! Which club doesnt big up their new appointment to be as positive as they can? What did you expect?.. 'Carlos has left unexpectedly, so Ive decided to take a huge gamble on Danny as we've seen him as a future manager for a while , but I just hope he's ready for it." It was more the bit about Danny turning down an appointment abroad he wanted to take, which sounds like he was talked out of it by Hoyle, and then he has been royally shit on. Thats how the cookie crumbles in football. It was still Dannys choice and he must have preferred the future opportunity to manage town than the instant opportunity to manage this foreign club. It was his decision. Hes only been shit on by the players ( quite a few of them anyway ) He's been given a great opportunity and for whatever reason the results have been terrible, so the opportunity is taken away from him. Thats the job when youre a football manager.
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Post by Rambo on Sept 14, 2022 16:19:33 GMT 1
Appoints him and gets slated for appointing him. Fans call for sacking. Sacks him because it isn't working. Fans call him hollow. It's a results business, everyone knows that. Unless you're saying DH didn't do due dilligence, didn't scan the market.. Whatever, he's misjudged Danny..like Robins and Powell, Siewert, the Cowleys, and even Carlos in the end. The decision making has to be questioned, the criteria we set to fill the post..we don't know all the details or any of the facts about this process, but we do know it didn't work. Don't think he had owt to do with the Cowleys (did he?)
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 14, 2022 16:23:22 GMT 1
It's a results business, everyone knows that. Unless you're saying DH didn't do due dilligence, didn't scan the market.. Whatever, he's misjudged Danny..like Robins and Powell, Siewert, the Cowleys, and even Carlos in the end. The decision making has to be questioned, the criteria we set to fill the post..we don't know all the details or any of the facts about this process, but we do know it didn't work. Don't think he had owt to do with the Cowleys (did he?) Or Carlos I think?
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Post by detox on Sept 14, 2022 16:27:31 GMT 1
When the club say Danny is sacked, does that mean from the club, or just from the coach job...will he carry on working in his former job or pick up his P45 ?
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Post by terryya on Sept 14, 2022 16:29:33 GMT 1
How are those hollow words? It was clearly the plan.. the fact it hasnt worked out as hoped doesnt mean it wasnt the plan! Which club doesnt big up their new appointment to be as positive as they can? What did you expect?.. 'Carlos has left unexpectedly, so Ive decided to take a huge gamble on Danny as we've seen him as a future manager for a while , but I just hope he's ready for it." It was more the bit about Danny turning down an appointment abroad he wanted to take, which sounds like he was talked out of it by Hoyle, and then he has been royally shit on. DS is a big boy and capable of making his own informed decisions and living with the consequences of those decisions. He'll have known when he took it that he'd be judged on results and can't really expected anything else. He'll be well compensated for his relatively short role and will no doubt pick up a new coaching role.
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 14, 2022 16:29:38 GMT 1
Ive heard Wagners in talks over a 1 year contract but wants more say on transfers than Carlos had.. which was basically none. Think thats what he had before wasnt it.. a 1 year rolling deal ? Don't blame him. Bromby currently has all the power without any responsibility.
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Sept 14, 2022 16:33:06 GMT 1
A mate of mine has the source. One that called all the transfers right this summer. DH? 😀
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 16:34:00 GMT 1
It was more the bit about Danny turning down an appointment abroad he wanted to take, which sounds like he was talked out of it by Hoyle, and then he has been royally shit on. DS is a big boy and capable of making his own informed decisions and living with the consequences of those decisions. He'll have known when he took it that he'd be judged on results and can't really expected anything else. He'll be well compensated for his relatively short role and will no doubt pick up a new coaching role. Given the short time he had to prepare and the fact we got two major signings in on the last day of the window, and they made their first start on his last night in charge, as did Kasumu, he may have expected a little longer to sort it.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 14, 2022 16:44:24 GMT 1
Ive heard Wagners in talks over a 1 year contract but wants more say on transfers than Carlos had.. which was basically none. Think thats what he had before wasnt it.. a 1 year rolling deal ? Don't blame him. Bromby currently has all the power without any responsibility. The system seems to be that Bromby chooses the players we sign, though id imagine that will be after a discussion with the manager in terms of what sort of player ( position, style etc ) that he thinks we need. its a pretty common way of doing it now. Suppose if the signings are lousy, bromby would get the tin tack.
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 14, 2022 17:26:09 GMT 1
I for one am very sorry to see Danny Schofield (the man) leave Huddersfield Town. A great player who gave us many great moments. But he could hardly be said to be an on-field tactician. He was an instinct player with flair and technique - not one for systems and styles. Neither was he an on-pitch leader, despite being a key member of the side for the better part of a decade.
The decision to relieve Danny Schofield (the head coach) from his duties is the only one that could have been made. He may be a very good coach when working on players' technique and individual training, but he's not a head coach. Tactically, he's all at sea. He's no man-manager either. I've simply not been able to work out what we've been trying to do for much of the season. Last night was the first time I saw a clear, distinct shape for more than a few minutes, when we switched to a 4-3-3 in the second half. It's clear that the squad has been left equally as baffled as us.
I'm disappointed it's worked out the way it has. Seeing someone lose their job, no matter how well-compensated they are for it, isn't something you normally want to see. But when it's someone a lot of us have seen involved in the club for such a long period of time, who is spoken of so well, and who I think the overwhelming majority would want success for, it's really disappointing.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 14, 2022 17:28:11 GMT 1
Anthony Barry Is on the list Very highly rated by the Chelsea loanees Would be my first choice
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Post by theterrier42 on Sept 14, 2022 17:29:40 GMT 1
Bielsa?
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Post by 66738 on Sept 14, 2022 17:35:35 GMT 1
Andrew Hughes?
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 14, 2022 17:55:30 GMT 1
A mate of mine has the source. One that called all the transfers right this summer. DH? 😀 That would be a good source. Id be down the bookies if it was.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 14, 2022 17:56:18 GMT 1
i can understand why Wagner would want more control over signings. our current signing policy is all over the place. I can see it now DH "David we would like you back at the club as per your old rolling contract terms. Leigh Bromby here will run you through our January transfers we have lined up" LB "So David we recognise we are light up top so we have managed to coax Danny Cadermarteri out of retirement. That's a real coup for us as he was in the sights of Meltham Veterans. We also recognise we are light on the left side so I'm delighted to say we have ex whirlwind John Thorrington lined up to make his eagerly anticipated return. Also on our list was Jon Stead and Jon Newby however there wasn't enough left in the pot to entice them over." TBF I'd still rather have them than Pritchard who Wagner signed.
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 14, 2022 18:09:03 GMT 1
Ive heard Wagners in talks over a 1 year contract but wants more say on transfers than Carlos had.. which was basically none. Think thats what he had before wasnt it.. a 1 year rolling deal ? Don't blame him. Bromby currently has all the power without any responsibility. If Wagner does come in it has to be bye bye Bromby surely?
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 14, 2022 18:09:58 GMT 1
i can understand why Wagner would want more control over signings. our current signing policy is all over the place. How so? By 'current' if you take the last couple of years Id say our signing policy has been extremely good. Even in the current situation it isn't the latest signings who are letting us down. Current (not under Phil )
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 14, 2022 18:12:46 GMT 1
I can see it now DH "David we would like you back at the club as per your old rolling contract terms. Leigh Bromby here will run you through our January transfers we have lined up" LB "So David we recognise we are light up top so we have managed to coax Danny Cadermarteri out of retirement. That's a real coup for us as he was in the sights of Meltham Veterans. We also recognise we are light on the left side so I'm delighted to say we have ex whirlwind John Thorrington lined up to make his eagerly anticipated return. Also on our list was Jon Stead and Jon Newby however there wasn't enough left in the pot to entice them over." TBF I'd still rather have them than Pritchard who Wagner signed. Pritchard on paper looked like a great signing. So many of them did.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 14, 2022 18:16:42 GMT 1
Don't blame him. Bromby currently has all the power without any responsibility. If Wagner does come in it has to be bye bye Bromby surely? Why? Wagner has worked under a HoFO here before in Stuart Webber. Why not Bromby?
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 14, 2022 18:20:25 GMT 1
TBF I'd still rather have them than Pritchard who Wagner signed. Pritchard on paper looked like a great signing. So many of them did. true. Kongolo was probably the worst example.. as we'd all seen him playing so well whilst on loan. We ,including Hoyle and Wagner, all thought we knew what we were getting for our £18m.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 14, 2022 18:27:41 GMT 1
and i've missed out simon grayson, sacked jan 2013 so 9 managers in 12 years Think clubs who either do well and are near the top or do badly and are near the bottom tend to go through a lot of managers, either sacking them or them resigning. Just trying to remember the last time we were a plodding along mid-table side. It seems for years now we've either been at the top end or at the bottom end. Blimey, when WAS that ? Have we managed it this century 🤔
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Post by Stiggy on Sept 14, 2022 18:27:55 GMT 1
Should never have been given the Job. I know were left in a bad situation with Carlos doing a runner a few days before preseason, but the club should've put Danny in temporary charge while a permanent replacement was found. Just read the clubs statement and it just sticks of CBA from the club.
What a shit time to be a Town fan. Let's hope real thought is put into the next one and not just another cheap option gamble.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 14, 2022 18:28:42 GMT 1
The parasite that is bleeding our club dry Dean Hoyle has absolutely no credibility with me or my kids who do not want to continue following our beloved HTFC whilst he is owner. We support HTFC not the Dean Hoyle appreciation society! We will continue this season as we were duped into renewing by him, but not beyond this, which is a shame as have been loyal town fans for many years. I can absolutely guarantee that if Hoyle was NOT a Town fan (or one who has conveniently hidden behind the persona of being a supposed fan), that he would have no disciplines of followers who hang on his every word! None absolutely none! He would have been long gone! Instead he continues to prioritise, building and protecting his own personal fortune and wealth, (anyone can check out his huge growing portfolio of investments on companies house) whilst HTFC are run by him as a poor man's struggling, everything on the cheap club. This is why I detest him more than any owner we've ever had in the past and that is saying something. The man is an absolute fraud, a greedy one at that. He needs to leave the club fast and we need new owners/investment from someone who actually values the club and it's fans and backs it with their own ambition to take us forward to compete at the highest level LONG TERM! Its Michael Bentines potty time again. Oh I wish, bought it for the kids on DVD 😍
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 14, 2022 18:29:54 GMT 1
How so? By 'current' if you take the last couple of years Id say our signing policy has been extremely good. Even in the current situation it isn't the latest signings who are letting us down. Current (not under Phil ) Youre not happy with the signings made this summer? Most are still to either play or play enough to form an opinion. Of the ones who have Rudini looks a great buy to me. Jurys still out on Nakayama IMO. But the policy seems the same as it what it was under PH to me. Loans of youngsters from the PL Young players from lower down the pyramid. The odd experienced player often from our own division.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 14, 2022 18:30:07 GMT 1
The parasite that is bleeding our club dry Dean Hoyle has absolutely no credibility with me or my kids who do not want to continue following our beloved HTFC whilst he is owner. We support HTFC not the Dean Hoyle appreciation society! We will continue this season as we were duped into renewing by him, but not beyond this, which is a shame as have been loyal town fans for many years. I can absolutely guarantee that if Hoyle was NOT a Town fan (or one who has conveniently hidden behind the persona of being a supposed fan), that he would have no disciplines of followers who hang on his every word! None absolutely none! He would have been long gone! Instead he continues to prioritise, building and protecting his own personal fortune and wealth, (anyone can check out his huge growing portfolio of investments on companies house) whilst HTFC are run by him as a poor man's struggling, everything on the cheap club. This is why I detest him more than any owner we've ever had in the past and that is saying something. The man is an absolute fraud, a greedy one at that. He needs to leave the club fast and we need new owners/investment from someone who actually values the club and it's fans and backs it with their own ambition to take us forward to compete at the highest level LONG TERM! I can't stand the bloke and hope he fucks off soon but even if think that's over the top 🤣
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 14, 2022 18:32:23 GMT 1
So we’re back to Bromby being shit again are we? Yes No back up goal keeper No left back Boyle ? Why? Rudhoni in no shape or form is Lewis. Kasumo yes that’s a tic Yuto - yes at left centre back. KKH - young player. Has ability but not in a relegation battle Anjorin - could be great needs the right manager Simpson - striker that’s injured until Xmas. Will probably then get a few soft muscle injuries. Returning players often do. Mahoney - no game time in 18 months. Why? Helik - looks rusty but should be a good signing Mbate- unfair to compare him to Levi. Clearly naive at the min. Danny - dealt an awful hand. Job too big for him. So all Bromby’s decisions. An unbalanced squad. With too many young and potential players. Needed some experience. Has to go as well. Rudoni is a number 10, O'Brien is a number 8. Rudoni is more skilful and a better passer, O'Brien is a ratter that breaks forward. Completely different players
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 14, 2022 18:41:11 GMT 1
Ive heard Wagners in talks over a 1 year contract but wants more say on transfers than Carlos had.. which was basically none. Think thats what he had before wasnt it.. a 1 year rolling deal ? i can understand why Wagner would want more control over signings. our current signing policy is all over the place. Except we can't sign the sort of players he signed before now we're out of the EU
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 14, 2022 18:42:53 GMT 1
Ive heard Wagners in talks over a 1 year contract but wants more say on transfers than Carlos had.. which was basically none. Think thats what he had before wasnt it.. a 1 year rolling deal ? Why would he come back? Cos no one else will touch him with a bargepole after his last 2 jobs ?
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