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Post by Tinpot on Sept 14, 2022 17:19:03 GMT 1
If anyone wants to put a bet on Daniel Farke leaving Borussia Moenchengladbach after 3 months to come here, give me the money and I'll put the bet on for you.
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Post by Towner47 on Sept 14, 2022 17:21:33 GMT 1
Why has Dean Hoyle nit appointed himself !!
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Post by Der Blitzbomber on Sept 14, 2022 17:21:43 GMT 1
I think that’s clear He wants his debt repaying - in full But only way he’ll get repaid at par / in full is if we get promoted - nobody would pay him out in full now Or if he sells to some crazy Yank or Saudi billionaire…. It's a shame Captain Picard didn't have a word with McConnaghey and his buddies who ended up buying Wrexham...
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 14, 2022 17:22:00 GMT 1
More likely to get Paul McKenna. Although TBF that wouldn't be a bad move, team talk is just to hypnotize them into believing they're Barcelona.
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Post by Der Blitzbomber on Sept 14, 2022 17:26:30 GMT 1
Are people really comparing Carrick and Schofield? I loved DS as a player but he falls a bit short of someone who has won the PL 5 times, every cup going from League Cup to Champions League, won 34 England caps and played at the World Cup. He's also coached some of the highest profile players at (still) one of the biggest clubs in the world. There's pretty much no correlation between being a good player and a good coach. Mourinho being the obvious example, but there's also Corberan, Warnock and several others who either never played or retired early through injuries. The likes of Cruyff and Guardiola who were successful in both roles are the exception not the rule.
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Post by prepare on Sept 14, 2022 17:29:53 GMT 1
Are people really comparing Carrick and Schofield? I loved DS as a player but he falls a bit short of someone who has won the PL 5 times, every cup going from League Cup to Champions League, won 34 England caps and played at the World Cup. He's also coached some of the highest profile players at (still) one of the biggest clubs in the world. There's pretty much no correlation between being a good player and a good coach. Mourinho being the obvious example, but there's also Corberan, Warnock and several others who either never played or retired early through injuries. The likes of Cruyff and Guardiola who were successful in both roles are the exception not the rule. I wonder if Maynard blue as any thoughts on this development!?
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Post by terryya on Sept 14, 2022 17:37:44 GMT 1
Are people really comparing Carrick and Schofield? I loved DS as a player but he falls a bit short of someone who has won the PL 5 times, every cup going from League Cup to Champions League, won 34 England caps and played at the World Cup. He's also coached some of the highest profile players at (still) one of the biggest clubs in the world. There's pretty much no correlation between being a good player and a good coach. Mourinho being the obvious example, but there's also Corberan, Warnock and several others who either never played or retired early through injuries. The likes of Cruyff and Guardiola who were successful in both roles are the exception not the rule. I'd generally agree with that but even his coaching/ managers worked with is levels above Danny.
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Post by Dan on Sept 14, 2022 17:40:11 GMT 1
There's pretty much no correlation between being a good player and a good coach. Mourinho being the obvious example, but there's also Corberan, Warnock and several others who either never played or retired early through injuries. The likes of Cruyff and Guardiola who were successful in both roles are the exception not the rule. I wonder if Maynard blue as any thoughts on this development!? You wonder if MaynardBlue has any thoughts on the correlation of being a good player and a good coach? Okay
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Post by ACW on Sept 14, 2022 17:48:44 GMT 1
It won't happen but I would love Ferguson here. The players certainly need a rocket up their arses and he would no doubt provide that! And get us to hoof the ball up in the air. That's how he played in his short stints as Everton caretaker manager. No thanks.
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Post by waggers on Sept 14, 2022 17:52:27 GMT 1
Dyche for me, doubt it'll happen though. Carrick is just as mild mannered as Schofield, not my cup of tea. Well actually it is cos I'm a decaf man nowadays. Dyche won't take it after he's told what he'll have to spend. Agree regarding Carrick, get Wagner back.
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Post by sabailand on Sept 14, 2022 17:53:10 GMT 1
It won't happen but I would love Ferguson here. The players certainly need a rocket up their arses and he would no doubt provide that! And get us to hoof the ball up in the air. That's how he played in his short stints as Everton caretaker manager. No thanks. Seriously who cares if it saw us actually start getting points on the board.
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Sept 14, 2022 17:54:36 GMT 1
As mentioned in another thread. No chance of Farke as he is now managing Borussia Monchengladbach.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 14, 2022 18:03:53 GMT 1
Dyche for me, doubt it'll happen though. Carrick is just as mild mannered as Schofield, not my cup of tea. Well actually it is cos I'm a decaf man nowadays. Dyche won't take it after he's told what he'll have to spend. Agree regarding Carrick, get Wagner back. Its quite an exciting prospect to have a manager who played over 700 games at the highest level and was a key part of multiple PL and a Champions league winning team. He must have something about him even if he seems mild mannered. Schofields problem was that he seemed to lack any enthusiasm at all. The Wagner boost could be effective short term but if he won't commit to more than a year as is rumoured then is it really in the best long term interests of the club?
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Post by mrg on Sept 14, 2022 18:52:45 GMT 1
"The club" are going to lose £9m next year if they don't stay up. Would you want to work with Dean and his amazing decision making patterns? Beggers can't be choosers.
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Post by bluebeard on Sept 14, 2022 18:58:37 GMT 1
Pete Wild at Barrow, watch this space
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Post by harris on Sept 14, 2022 19:01:30 GMT 1
Pete Wild at Barrow, watch this space Should I be getting a price from sky then?
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Post by boooothy on Sept 14, 2022 19:04:04 GMT 1
Dyche won't take it after he's told what he'll have to spend. Agree regarding Carrick, get Wagner back. Its quite an exciting prospect to have a manager who played over 700 games at the highest level and was a key part of multiple PL and a Champions league winning team. He must have something about him even if he seems mild mannered. Schofields problem was that he seemed to lack any enthusiasm at all. The Wagner boost could be effective short term but if he won't commit to more than a year as is rumoured then is it really in the best long term interests of the club? The only thing anyone should be thinking about right now is not getting relegated. It would be an absolute disaster and priority 1,2 and 3
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Post by orinoco on Sept 14, 2022 19:04:27 GMT 1
And get us to hoof the ball up in the air. That's how he played in his short stints as Everton caretaker manager. No thanks. Seriously who cares if it saw us actually start getting points on the board. Thats it, need wins, whether its pretty or not who cares?.
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Post by harris on Sept 14, 2022 19:08:32 GMT 1
Pete Wild at Barrow, watch this space Should I be getting a price from sky then? Btw, he only signed a contract extension there yesterday 🤔
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Post by waggers on Sept 14, 2022 19:14:35 GMT 1
Dyche won't take it after he's told what he'll have to spend. Agree regarding Carrick, get Wagner back. Its quite an exciting prospect to have a manager who played over 700 games at the highest level and was a key part of multiple PL and a Champions league winning team. He must have something about him even if he seems mild mannered. Schofields problem was that he seemed to lack any enthusiasm at all. The Wagner boost could be effective short term but if he won't commit to more than a year as is rumoured then is it really in the best long term interests of the club? You might be right about Carrick long term but the position we are currently in I don't want someone starting off his career as a manager. Get Wagner in.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 14, 2022 19:18:40 GMT 1
Dyche won't take it after he's told what he'll have to spend. Agree regarding Carrick, get Wagner back. Its quite an exciting prospect to have a manager who played over 700 games at the highest level and was a key part of multiple PL and a Champions league winning team. He must have something about him even if he seems mild mannered. Schofields problem was that he seemed to lack any enthusiasm at all. The Wagner boost could be effective short term but if he won't commit to more than a year as is rumoured then is it really in the best long term interests of the club? As far as I can recall he had zero personality as a player, mild mannered is putting it lightly. Not saying quiet characters can’t make good managers but I’d be a bit worried about his ability to impose his ideas especially after our recent experience with Schofield.
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Post by samhudds on Sept 14, 2022 19:19:40 GMT 1
In my head it can't be a gamble. We are already 8 games into the season and 5 points adrift. The new gaffa has to hit the ground running straight away.
For that to happen, it needs to be someone with experience and a 'spark'. Someone that will instill some spirit and shake things up if required, but most importantly get the respect from the players instantly.
Not sure who this may be, but he has to get it right
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 14, 2022 19:31:36 GMT 1
Its quite an exciting prospect to have a manager who played over 700 games at the highest level and was a key part of multiple PL and a Champions league winning team. He must have something about him even if he seems mild mannered. Schofields problem was that he seemed to lack any enthusiasm at all. The Wagner boost could be effective short term but if he won't commit to more than a year as is rumoured then is it really in the best long term interests of the club? As far as I can recall he had zero personality as a player, mild mannered is putting it lightly. Not saying quiet characters can’t make good managers but I’d be a bit worried about his ability to impose his ideas especially after our recent experience with Schofield. Yeah thats fair enough, he must have something about him to have played in that Man United midfield for so long but he doesn't come across as a ranter and raver. It's more the intrigue of having a big name player managing that I was getting at. Whilst we need a fairly quick response from whoever comes in we do have 38 games left so it's not like we need a great escape......yet.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 14, 2022 19:48:45 GMT 1
As far as I can recall he had zero personality as a player, mild mannered is putting it lightly. Not saying quiet characters can’t make good managers but I’d be a bit worried about his ability to impose his ideas especially after our recent experience with Schofield. Yeah thats fair enough, he must have something about him to have played in that Man United midfield for so long but he doesn't come across as a ranter and raver. It's more the intrigue of having a big name player managing that I was getting at. Whilst we need a fairly quick response from whoever comes in we do have 38 games left so it's not like we need a great escape......yet. Yeah I get that, he certainly achieved as a player. I think we’re currently in need of a motivator/man manager who the players respect and is good tactically, is that him, could be I spose?
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Post by wildhogg on Sept 14, 2022 20:02:03 GMT 1
FFS please don't appoint another absolute rookie with no managerial experience. We haven't got the personnel to carry someone who isn't fully clued up at this level and ready to hit the ground running.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 14, 2022 20:03:26 GMT 1
The club have already made contact with Solihull Moors to speak with Neal Ardley
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Post by Big Jim on Sept 14, 2022 20:19:29 GMT 1
I don't think we are gonna be spoilt for choice when it comes to a new manager, but I agree it needs to be somebody with a bit of a pedigree.
First choice - Sean Dyche - Never gonna happen, we couldn't even afford his wages.
Second Choice - David Wagner - Proven in the Championship, knows the club inside out and has a fantastic relationship with all involved with the club.
Third Choice - Gareth Ainsworth - Done a fantastic job with Wycombe and definitely has the potential to be successful with The Terriers!
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 14, 2022 20:23:19 GMT 1
The club have already made contact with Solihull Moors to speak with Neal Ardley have they also spoken to ex-Leeds manager David Hockaday?
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Post by softboy on Sept 14, 2022 20:23:22 GMT 1
Perhaps we should convince DH that to get his money back he should splash out. How about last seasons "Championship Manager Of The Season", surely his "buy out" clause at Luton cannot be that much!
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Post by ACW on Sept 14, 2022 20:49:35 GMT 1
And get us to hoof the ball up in the air. That's how he played in his short stints as Everton caretaker manager. No thanks. Seriously who cares if it saw us actually start getting points on the board. Our players are not suited to that style of play. Do you seriously think hoofing the ball up to either Ward or Rhodes would get us points on the board?
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