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Post by boooothy on Feb 8, 2023 15:47:40 GMT 1
What’s annoying is, as a complete no one in football circles, i still managed to hear from people who had had dealings with Fozza when his name was mentioned. Not one had a positive thing to say about him and were stunned we appointed him.
I believe he was looking for a job in Scotland outside the Premier Division or whatever they call it.
Having said that Peter Jackson was even less of a no one, many clubs appoint ex players like SuperMac with zero evidence they can manage/coach.
No one is claiming we didn’t get it wrong, i just think we need to get on with it. We married a pig with no pre nup, no point dreaming of the pretty girl next door, make the best if your ugly wife.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Feb 8, 2023 15:48:24 GMT 1
Have I missed something? What new owners? Ones wanting a League 1 club with £50m debt? No insider knowledge, but I can't see anyone paying off Dean's loans (£50M) to takeover a League 1 club. If we do have an interested buyer, I can only see any potential deal going out off the window if we are relegated. Out of the window, or a two-tier agreement - with the amount to be paid differing significantly dependent on which league we start in? |
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Post by drumriggend on Feb 8, 2023 15:54:02 GMT 1
Has he fooooked off yet..
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 8, 2023 15:54:04 GMT 1
Football ownership is a risk at best.
The risk/reward game now comes to a head with our league position and a sale of the club.
The financial difference between town being in the championship and the first division is the balancing act,even if there is an agreement to sell the club at a price whichever division we are in. A new buyer may be convinced its in their best interest to take a further punt on the price if they agree with a new coach being installed whom they feel makes survival more likely and whos name adds to the overall value of what they are buying?
They may also get some say in contract length and terms of the new guy whilst funding the previous one out of the door.
Agreements for the future being open to ongoing changes as they come to pass isnt anything new.
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Post by goodbet on Feb 8, 2023 15:55:04 GMT 1
What’s annoying is, as a complete no one in football circles, i still managed to hear from people who had had dealings with Fozza when his name was mentioned. Not one had a positive thing to say about him and were stunned we appointed him. I believe he was looking for a job in Scotland outside the Premier Division or whatever they call it. Having said that Peter Jackson was even less of a no one, many clubs appoint ex players like SuperMac with zero evidence they can manage/coach. No one is claiming we didn’t get it wrong, i just think we need to get on with it. We married a pig with no pre nup, no point dreaming of the pretty girl next door, make the best if your ugly wife. But how many pigs do we have to marry before we stop repeating the same mistakes. |
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Post by iangreaves on Feb 8, 2023 15:55:39 GMT 1
So any potential new owner will have to find over a million just to sack the manager before they even get their feet under the desk? It's not a circus, It's a fucking asylum. What happens if the potential new owners tell DH they want the decks cleared before any takeover as they won’t pay for the clowns removal. What if the potential new owners say they no longer want the club because it's in the third division. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 15:55:52 GMT 1
Maynard my post was more that any decision to spend more money and a lot on sacking and replacing MF needs to be agreed with potential new owners as this would either a) change the terms of the deal or b) mean that this would all come out of DH pocket without any of it ever coming back to him. a) could be quite easy to negotiate if the new owners don’t want MF as they would need to pay this anyway. But they may also say it’s up to you to keep the team up and if you need to invest now to make that happen so be it. b) is DH willing to pay out say another 2million knowing he won’t get it back, but would get more money from a sale of a championship club should a new manager save us. By the way I don’t like MF but I actually still think we might stay up with him in charge, once AK is fit enough to start we will look a better side, DH might think the same and therefore keeps is circa 2million…….. Yes I agree that Hoyle has more to consider when spending more money and increasing debt with potential investors looking on could we not just move him aside, i.e keep paying him but put someone else in until the end of the season |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 8, 2023 15:57:16 GMT 1
You have to feel for anyone just logging into the forum, seeing this thread has gained 10 pages in half a day only to find that he's still employed by the club.
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 8, 2023 15:58:07 GMT 1
I'd give it to Hogg until the end of the season. If he couldn't gee the players up and get them all fighting nobody could.
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Post by htfcterry on Feb 8, 2023 15:59:09 GMT 1
You have to feel for anyone just logging into the forum, seeing this thread has gained 10 pages in half a day only to find that he's still employed by the club. That’s exactly where I am at right now 😂😂 |
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Post by goodbet on Feb 8, 2023 16:01:41 GMT 1
No insider knowledge, but I can't see anyone paying off Dean's loans (£50M) to takeover a League 1 club. If we do have an interested buyer, I can only see any potential deal going out off the window if we are relegated. Out of the window, or a two-tier agreement - with the amount to be paid differing significantly dependent on which league we start in? I think that you are looking at different types of buyers, those that are looking at a Championship club are not after a League 1 club. If you want a BMW you don't come out of the showroom with a Fiat. |
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Post by hthp on Feb 8, 2023 16:02:45 GMT 1
I'd give it to Hogg until the end of the season. If he couldn't gee the players up and get them all fighting nobody could. Isn't he supposed to be the captain? |
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Post by Maynardblue on Feb 8, 2023 16:03:37 GMT 1
I have praised Dean to high heaven in previous years if you look back. But I can only call a spade a spade currently. Similar with PH, didn't care for the guy initially but thought he made some good calls later on and was unfortunate He should never have taken the club on in the first place though. I agree, mistakes have happened but just because you’ve got some of your old work mates phone numbers do you really think you should be affecting the fan bases thinking by pushing personal agendas on here? As a fan I’m not so sure personally. I post 'some' of what I hear - datm is full of big boys and girls who can make their own minds up based on what I say. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 8, 2023 16:03:47 GMT 1
Facebook/Twitter - rumours he’s gone along with Bromby - how great would that be if it was remotely true.
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Post by boooothy on Feb 8, 2023 16:04:32 GMT 1
PH not involved in any decision making - it's all Hoyle/Baldwin - the 75% ownership is academic as he's no longer a director/chairman Maynard my post was more that any decision to spend more money and a lot on sacking and replacing MF needs to be agreed with potential new owners as this would either a) change the terms of the deal or b) mean that this would all come out of DH pocket without any of it ever coming back to him. a) could be quite easy to negotiate if the new owners don’t want MF as they would need to pay this anyway. But they may also say it’s up to you to keep the team up and if you need to invest now to make that happen so be it. b) is DH willing to pay out say another 2million knowing he won’t get it back, but would get more money from a sale of a championship club should a new manager save us. By the way I don’t like MF but I actually still think we might stay up with him in charge, once AK is fit enough to start we will look a better side, DH might think the same and therefore keeps is circa 2million…….. I also think we can stay up. If AK starts playing for 90 minutes (unlikely i know) like he did last night, no chance we’re getting relegated. |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Feb 8, 2023 16:05:46 GMT 1
Out of the window, or a two-tier agreement - with the amount to be paid differing significantly dependent on which league we start in? I think that you are looking at different types of buyers, those that are looking at a Championship club are not after a League 1 club. If you want a BMW you don't come out of the showroom with a Fiat. It's a fact that negotiations are at a very advanced stage - just waiting on the rubber stamp. I think contingency plans will be in place with the same prospective owners. Whichever league we are in next season, I think we'll be owned by the same new ownership team. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 8, 2023 16:06:01 GMT 1
You have to feel for anyone just logging into the forum, seeing this thread has gained 10 pages in half a day only to find that he's still employed by the club. That’s exactly where I am at right now 😂😂 Was that you I could hear screaming? 🤣 |
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Post by hoggy1975 on Feb 8, 2023 16:06:24 GMT 1
I have praised Dean to high heaven in previous years if you look back. But I can only call a spade a spade currently. Similar with PH, didn't care for the guy initially but thought he made some good calls later on and was unfortunate He should never have taken the club on in the first place though. I agree, mistakes have happened but just because you’ve got some of your old work mates phone numbers do you really think you should be affecting the fan bases thinking by pushing personal agendas on here? As a fan I’m not so sure personally. Please shut up, I’d much prefer if you stopped posting and Maynard continued as their posts are valued on here. If he/she or ‘they’  posted things blaming PH you’d be fine with it. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Feb 8, 2023 16:06:55 GMT 1
Facebook/Twitter - rumours he’s gone along with Bromby - how great would that be if it was remotely true. There has been a 3 hour meeting this afternoon/ late morning therefore it could well have happened. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 8, 2023 16:07:21 GMT 1
Facebook/Twitter - rumours he’s gone along with Bromby - how great would that be if it was remotely true. Thanks for this - even it's complete bollocks - I feel a bit better. |
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Post by iangreaves on Feb 8, 2023 16:08:07 GMT 1
Things must be bad when the Examiner is being critical:
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Post by 4 pts on Feb 8, 2023 16:09:10 GMT 1
What’s annoying is, as a complete no one in football circles, i still managed to hear from people who had had dealings with Fozza when his name was mentioned. Not one had a positive thing to say about him and were stunned we appointed him. I believe he was looking for a job in Scotland outside the Premier Division or whatever they call it. Having said that Peter Jackson was even less of a no one, many clubs appoint ex players like SuperMac with zero evidence they can manage/coach. No one is claiming we didn’t get it wrong, i just think we need to get on with it. We married a pig with no pre nup, no point dreaming of the pretty girl next door, make the best if your ugly wife. Get on with what ? guaranteed relegation ! There are 17 games left, 51pts to play for. We have a slim chance of staying up if MF is removed and replaced with the correct coach. Make the best of it....deary me |
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Feb 8, 2023 16:09:10 GMT 1
I'd give it to Hogg until the end of the season. If he couldn't gee the players up and get them all fighting nobody could. There doesn't appear to be any issue with the players dedication, or even their morale. The problem is that we need a manager/coach who is tactically astute and can get us playing with a clear plan on how to score goals and win games. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Feb 8, 2023 16:09:15 GMT 1
Facebook/Twitter - rumours he’s gone along with Bromby - how great would that be if it was remotely true. There has been a 3 hour meeting this afternoon/ late morning therefore it could well have happened. Would that explain nothing being said on Twitter by Town's account since last night? Poor old Jon Dyson is waiting for his Happy Birthday tweet! |
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Post by hthp on Feb 8, 2023 16:10:19 GMT 1
I'd give it to Hogg until the end of the season. If he couldn't gee the players up and get them all fighting nobody could. There doesn't appear to be any issue with the players dedication, or even their morale. The problem is that we need a manager/coach who is tactically astute and can get us playing with a clear plan on how to score goals and win games. I thought this in the 1st half against QPR, the effort was not in question, but the players simply didn't have a clue what they were doing. That's on Fotheringham. |
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Post by Sio on Feb 8, 2023 16:10:36 GMT 1
Facebook/Twitter - rumours he’s gone along with Bromby - how great would that be if it was remotely true. Can't see Bromby going. MF is absolutely urgent if we want to stay in the division, and surely the ownership would see the expense as a sensible one. Bromby will be rightly disposed of when the new owners come in, but surely we can get by with him sticking around for a while longer without going through the hassle? |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 8, 2023 16:10:54 GMT 1
Facebook/Twitter - rumours he’s gone along with Bromby - how great would that be if it was remotely true. Thanks for this - even it's complete bollocks - I feel a bit better. Me too mate. |
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 8, 2023 16:11:33 GMT 1
I'd give it to Hogg until the end of the season. If he couldn't gee the players up and get them all fighting nobody could. There doesn't appear to be any issue with the players dedication, or even their morale. The problem is that we need a manager/coach who is tactically astute and can get us playing with a clear plan on how to score goals and win games. I'm just saying that if it's money that's the issue and we can't afford to pay MF off and appoint someone else, a person like Hogg who played under the tutelage of Wagner and Corboran may have the requisite knowledge of tactics to improve our situation. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely 100% clutching at straws here but this is exactly where the situation has left me. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 8, 2023 16:12:58 GMT 1
Facebook/Twitter - rumours he’s gone along with Bromby - how great would that be if it was remotely true. Thanks for this - even it's complete bollocks - I feel a bit better. In that case I can recommend a film for you. Something like the Blueman show or something? 🤔 |
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Post by boooothy on Feb 8, 2023 16:13:43 GMT 1
What’s annoying is, as a complete no one in football circles, i still managed to hear from people who had had dealings with Fozza when his name was mentioned. Not one had a positive thing to say about him and were stunned we appointed him. I believe he was looking for a job in Scotland outside the Premier Division or whatever they call it. Having said that Peter Jackson was even less of a no one, many clubs appoint ex players like SuperMac with zero evidence they can manage/coach. No one is claiming we didn’t get it wrong, i just think we need to get on with it. We married a pig with no pre nup, no point dreaming of the pretty girl next door, make the best if your ugly wife. Get on with what ? guaranteed relegation ! There are 17 games left, 51pts to play for. We have a slim chance of staying up if MF is removed and replaced with the correct coach. Make the best of it....deary me I disagree i think we can stay up and have a better chance than with Chicho or Brookie the Kit Man |
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