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Post by Up the Duff. on Oct 1, 2022 18:03:30 GMT 1
To all the tossers here who are Spoutingfor Hoyle to sell up outing for Hoyle to sell upare idiots how can he sell when he hasn’t yet got the shares back they call themselves fans when the don’t even know the situation ! Do you type your post on a tablet glued to the ceiling using a walking stick? If not probably best not to call anyone else a idiot. Classic and true
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Post by Toxic Ted on Oct 1, 2022 18:07:43 GMT 1
I can’t see it being much fun to be involved at the club right now.
MF knows that Schofield’s managerial career was pretty much ruined in 9 games here. He will be making sure they sweat blood for him.
That said, if the players simply aren’t good enough to win matches he’s pretty much wasting his breath. Half the team are in the final contracts of their careers, the other half are young enough to still forge good careers wherever they choose.
It’s a losing hand all round and it’s been dealt by Hoyle & Bromby. Ironically, then being the 2 who face the least consequences and simply restart the process ad infinitum.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 1, 2022 18:13:59 GMT 1
All very frustrating. How can we be so bad ? Watched the game and kept thinking the same thing "this is a relegation team" all day long. You seem to be taking the defeat better than usual Duncan. Better off just accepting we are crap rather than getting too pissed off about it. Its the weekend, we'll all be back at work soon.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Oct 1, 2022 18:15:37 GMT 1
Bromby’s future must be fairly tightly tied to making this appointment a success. To appoint one rookie coach, sack him and then replace them with another rookie just makes you look idiotic.
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Post by terriers321 on Oct 1, 2022 18:20:28 GMT 1
Oh i am, dont worry about that. I may even take an extra trip away with my winnings from the bet i put on us to go down at the start of the season. 🇵🇹🤑🌞 at least I don’t have to bet against my team for my trips.😂😂 And here we have it ladies and gentleman. The award for the most tragic poster goes to the senile, old man boasting about his personal wealth through emoji on a football forum.
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Post by sabailand on Oct 1, 2022 18:26:35 GMT 1
Respect to you for going. I havnt been to a single home or away this season and i have no intention of changing that anytime soon. Its suprising how refreshing your weekend can be when you stop giving a shit. So you're basically saying you're only interested when things are going well, and when the chips are down you dont want to know?
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Post by space hardware on Oct 1, 2022 18:32:08 GMT 1
I see Positive has started early on the cooking sherry tonight 🥴
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Post by portugalterrier on Oct 1, 2022 18:41:28 GMT 1
Surely a ban... or does it not count if you are a happy clapper 🤣🤣🤣 Yep agree with this totally unnecessary personal abuse. Should be a ban. Unfortunately not, good to see so called “ supporters “ calling the team when they don’t even attend, oh the irony.
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Post by portugalterrier on Oct 1, 2022 18:44:37 GMT 1
🇵🇹🤑🌞 at least I don’t have to bet against my team for my trips.😂😂 And here we have it ladies and gentleman. The award for the most tragic poster goes to the senile, old man boasting about his personal wealth through emoji on a football forum. Correct, but at least I do attend matches as compared to you who posts when not attending, whilst also betting against his team 😂😂
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Post by Stewpot on Oct 1, 2022 18:50:23 GMT 1
Today's pathetic perfomance is totally on the players, shocking state of some of them. Hope MF gives them a right rocket up the arse.
That said, getting rid of nearly half of last season's team could only end badly, or very badly. Not really surprising though, considering the parachute £££s have ended.
We need to be realistic, we're now a £ poor club, probably not good enough for the Championship, and MF might be able help us re-build in Division 3 next season à la Portsmouth, Sunderland, etc.
I very much doubt we'll be playing Sunderland in league one next season. More like Salford.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 1, 2022 19:20:21 GMT 1
Respect to you for going. I havnt been to a single home or away this season and i have no intention of changing that anytime soon. Its suprising how refreshing your weekend can be when you stop giving a shit. So basically you're not a Town fan? Why are you on here commenting then?
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Post by terriers321 on Oct 1, 2022 19:37:19 GMT 1
Respect to you for going. I havnt been to a single home or away this season and i have no intention of changing that anytime soon. Its suprising how refreshing your weekend can be when you stop giving a shit. So you're basically saying you're only interested when things are going well, and when the chips are down you dont want to know? Nope. I went once last season. The covid break and the current regime have sucked the enjoyment out of it for me.
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Post by terriers321 on Oct 1, 2022 19:37:58 GMT 1
Respect to you for going. I havnt been to a single home or away this season and i have no intention of changing that anytime soon. Its suprising how refreshing your weekend can be when you stop giving a shit. So you're basically saying you're only interested when things are going well, and when the chips are down you dont want to know? Nope. I went once last season. The covid break and the current regime have sucked the enjoyment out of it for me.
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Post by morrisraspass on Oct 1, 2022 19:38:57 GMT 1
These lads have had three coaches in two months. They've gone from the Uber control of Carlos to the whatever-that-was of DS to now a third guy drilling something different into them. It's not a surprise they look totally confused. That so many people have shit the bed after 45 mins is incredible. Yes it wasn't good, in fact it was very bad, but what do you expect after three days? I'm afraid it's back to the 10 games marker that DS (almost) got. Then we can all collectively shit ourselves!
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Post by terriers321 on Oct 1, 2022 19:41:48 GMT 1
Respect to you for going. I havnt been to a single home or away this season and i have no intention of changing that anytime soon. Its suprising how refreshing your weekend can be when you stop giving a shit. So basically you're not a Town fan? Why are you on here commenting then? So basically you are speculating something i didnt say. Do i want them to win? Yes. Am i arsed anymore if they lose, no. Can i be arsed going to the games until the regime at the top changes, no.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 1, 2022 20:31:17 GMT 1
So basically you're not a Town fan? Why are you on here commenting then? So basically you are speculating something i didnt say. Do i want them to win? Yes. Am i arsed anymore if they lose, no. Can i be arsed going to the games until the regime at the top changes, no. I'm fucked off with it all. Really I am. I've got a season ticket but I'm struggling to get any enthusiasm. I'll still go for now.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 1, 2022 21:24:01 GMT 1
Ere lads for fucks sake give the bloke a chance, despite today being absolutely dismal, the man deserves a chance.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 1, 2022 21:27:55 GMT 1
So basically you are speculating something i didnt say. Do i want them to win? Yes. Am i arsed anymore if they lose, no. Can i be arsed going to the games until the regime at the top changes, no. I'm fucked off with it all. Really I am. I've got a season ticket but I'm struggling to get any enthusiasm. I'll still go for now. I'm where you are with it, I don't even feel that arsed that we lost today. My enthusiasm for Town has disappeared, totally disillusioned with the club, like you,got a season ticket so keep turning up but I just can't muster any enthusiasm for it.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 1, 2022 21:30:39 GMT 1
I'm fucked off with it all. Really I am. I've got a season ticket but I'm struggling to get any enthusiasm. I'll still go for now. I'm where you are with it, I don't even feel that arsed that we lost today. My enthusiasm for Town has disappeared, totally disillusioned with the club, like you,got a season ticket so keep turning up but I just can't muster any enthusiasm for it. Saturday afternoon is football.
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Post by space hardware on Oct 1, 2022 21:36:39 GMT 1
I'm fucked off with it all. Really I am. I've got a season ticket but I'm struggling to get any enthusiasm. I'll still go for now. I'm where you are with it, I don't even feel that arsed that we lost today. My enthusiasm for Town has disappeared, totally disillusioned with the club, like you,got a season ticket so keep turning up but I just can't muster any enthusiasm for it. It was one for the mad bastards today, Art... were you there?
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 1, 2022 21:36:55 GMT 1
Ere lads for fucks sake give the bloke a chance, despite today being absolutely dismal, the man deserves a chance. That’s the overwhelming feedback from the return journey. Northampton services was the most depressing services I’ve ever experienced.
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Post by shawsie on Oct 1, 2022 21:38:34 GMT 1
I'm fucked off with it all. Really I am. I've got a season ticket but I'm struggling to get any enthusiasm. I'll still go for now. I'm where you are with it, I don't even feel that arsed that we lost today. My enthusiasm for Town has disappeared, totally disillusioned with the club, like you,got a season ticket so keep turning up but I just can't muster any enthusiasm for it. I think that speaks for many. We missed out in the play offs and lost 3 of our best in obrien colwill and toffs but their replacements thus far have been woeful! We dont really have a left back of note and rudoni/mbete/kasumu are not even close to colwill and obrien thus far. I admit its still relatively early days though. Add to that boyle in for sarr(wow?!)......another costly centre back in helik who hasnt set the workd on fire and pearsons injury and its all looking a bit grim just when we were all thinking we must keep building now and try not to lose momentum which is always a challenge for play off losers. A loss on tues (has to be expected at present guven the form) and sadly we could be at 12-13k actual fans there next sun. Ah well.....tis only a game.
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Post by loumacari on Oct 1, 2022 21:38:46 GMT 1
These lads have had three coaches in two months. They've gone from the Uber control of Carlos to the whatever-that-was of DS to now a third guy drilling something different into them. It's not a surprise they look totally confused. That so many people have shit the bed after 45 mins is incredible. Yes it wasn't good, in fact it was very bad, but what do you expect after three days? I'm afraid it's back to the 10 games marker that DS (almost) got. Then we can all collectively shit ourselves! A sensible team selection and pragmatic set up to keep it solid and try and pinch a result? Certainly not a wide open 4-2-3-1 at a side near the top of the league. Fits with Bromby’s ‘vital that we play attacking football narrative’ at least.
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 1, 2022 21:48:28 GMT 1
These lads have had three coaches in two months. They've gone from the Uber control of Carlos to the whatever-that-was of DS to now a third guy drilling something different into them. It's not a surprise they look totally confused. That so many people have shit the bed after 45 mins is incredible. Yes it wasn't good, in fact it was very bad, but what do you expect after three days? I'm afraid it's back to the 10 games marker that DS (almost) got. Then we can all collectively shit ourselves! A sensible team selection and pragmatic set up to keep it solid and try and pinch a result? Certainly not a wide open 4-2-3-1 at a side near the top of the league. Fits with Bromby’s ‘vital that we play attacking football narrative’ at least. Seriously, this idea of playing citeh style football with district league players is really fucking me right off. Look at the Cardiff game. Ffs.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 1, 2022 22:00:47 GMT 1
I'm where you are with it, I don't even feel that arsed that we lost today. My enthusiasm for Town has disappeared, totally disillusioned with the club, like you,got a season ticket so keep turning up but I just can't muster any enthusiasm for it. It was one for the mad bastards today, Art... were you there? No mate, despite spending many a year traipsing up and down the land watching Town I've not actually been to an away game since we lost 6-1 at Manchester City in the PL.
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Post by softboy on Oct 1, 2022 22:42:26 GMT 1
Just waiting for the post. In the 50 years of watching Town this is the worst team and performance I have ever seen - even Laing at home to Shrewsbury 5 1 was better than this!
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Post by Up the Duff. on Oct 1, 2022 22:53:43 GMT 1
As stated on other threads there were some dire performances last season, but the defence was well organised apart from the odd lapse, this season the defence is all over the place, midfield is sluggish, cannot score goals. needs a lot of sorting.
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Post by willo on Oct 2, 2022 0:48:10 GMT 1
I think it shows: a) just how much Corberan was getting out of this set of players and b) how much of an influence LOB, Toff, & Colwill had on the team.
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Post by rubicon on Oct 2, 2022 4:52:45 GMT 1
Well I'll also be down for my first game in a good while next Sunday. Combination of many things, including a lack of interest in a day out that costs getting on for £150 average. Fortunately with it being a Sunday early kick off, and a game against a fairly local team whose fans won't need to stay over, the Travel Lodge and Premier Inn A.I. which usually up's the price to between £80 and £120 for the night has had a day off. £39.99 at Travel Lodge, beers with mates before and after, and a £20 ticket. I'm an Huddersfield lad, and as many have pointed out it's in the blood, so I'll always be a Town fan, but age and ridiculous costs, and to be honest a perceived lack of intent and effort are going to make my visits less and less. And sure, it seems I've joined the I'll only watch a winning team bandwagon. I bought a season card for Stockton Town in the summer, £105, within walking distance and decent pints and pies. ( same division as Sedge last season). So far 8 wins out of 8 games. Up the Anchors!.......... Nope, I'll never get used to that at all. So glory hunter or not, the one thing I do know I'll see every time I go, is 100% effort.
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Post by dugnet on Oct 2, 2022 6:36:42 GMT 1
I think what we are witnessing is a continuation of the decline in fortunes since that night at Chelsea. CC really bucked the trend for a season but we have been unable/unwilling to build on that.
I think beyond simple tactics the biggest thing that MF needs to do is recognise the mindset across the whole club, or more accurately what needs to change. This is his first chance as a head coach, he needs to make a good first impression. In doing so he needs to sit back, reflect and with the benefit of having a fresh pair of eyes start telling all the influential stakeholders in the club what needs to change.
Players - Is this team as talented or balanced as last season? No. Is this group capable of better than currently showing? Yes, definitely. He needs to positively tell them this but in doing so build some confidence in themselves and in him (as a leader). Get that right and he'll have a chance. Tactics are important but confidence and belief matter more right now. The players also need to take responsibility. The leaders need to change the narrative and drag others with them.
Bromby - MF is directly responsible for the fortunes on the pitch. Although Bromby selected MF and he reports to Bromby the truth is Bromby really works for MF in selecting the players MF needs to be successful. In short the success on the pitch is MFs responsibility so he needs players who he believes can deliver. In short he needs to influence recruitment going forward. NB: I don't know it doesn't work like this but if there is any suggestion that it doesn't MF needs to tell Bromby this is what he needs (to have a chance of being successful).
Hoyle - For all the great things,time, effort and cash investment over his time in charge he needs to start taking some more responsibility for his mistakes. Moreover he needs to recognise that there is a material risk we could end up in League One. Were that to happen he ultimately carries the can. Given all the effort put in and opportunities he, to be fair, created is that a good return ? I would suggest not. There is no doubt he has independently chosen to use his, self created, resources to achieve what he has at Town. He wanted to do that, he's had the glory he now has to face, and own, the tough times. He needs to show leadership. Without abandoning sensible financial principles start talking up what we can achieve rather than talking in doom laden tropes about how tough it all is. A change in rhetoric could do wonders to lift the mood. That and a bit more humility in admitting mistakes he has made and actually owning them. If his enthusiasm and enjoyment is no longer there then it's time to move away and give someone else the opportunity
The supporters - We are the invested observers. I actually think patience and the support we have given in the past 5 years has been pretty good. We need the club to give us something back. That isn't about cheap tickets it is about appreciation and respect. It wouldn't take too much to get more re-engaged (greater belief would take longer) but at least treat us with the respect we know what we see. We are realistic but we are also entitled to a bit more than we are getting.
Ultimately I don't know if I'd say we are in a "shocking state", but it should be better than the disjointed and rancourous state we currently find ourselves in.
Is MF the catalyst who can drag us together? I don't know. But it is what is needed, at every level.
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