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Post by specialun on Oct 18, 2022 22:20:45 GMT 1
Reckons we didn’t take our chances again - what chances is he on about? Out of position Turton from 30 yards? Helik 35 yards? TBF, the Ward miss after 5 minutes was a shocker. Yes fair point it was - great ball in to be fair. Jackson put a few good crosses i today - that was one of few positives
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 18, 2022 22:22:09 GMT 1
TBF, the Ward miss after 5 minutes was a shocker. Yes fair point it was - great ball in to be fair. Jackson put a few good crosses i today - that was one of few positives 2 good Sorba corners too.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Oct 18, 2022 22:23:49 GMT 1
Can anyone genuinely say that they saw anything tonight to suggest that we won't be in the bottom 3 for the rest of the season? I saw a Preston team who were absolute shite yet they sit in 8th place. Rotherham were even worse and they're 10th This division is garbage and a bit of organisation goes a long way. Get a decent manager in and we've a chance of moving upwards a bit Absolutely spot on , Luton are 4th this division is as poor as it’s ever been we just didn’t have the desire to go again and oh boy will it cost us big time. The support is going fast already the stadium looked half empty tonight ask yourself why so early into the new CHEAP managers reign . Town fans aren’t stupid , they will vote with their feet. I know I sit with a big group of ST holders and many are just fucked off with what’s happening and happened ,,were not mugs DH .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 22:24:17 GMT 1
Reckons we didn’t take our chances again - what chances is he on about? Out of position Turton from 30 yards? Helik 35 yards? Two excellent crosses by Jackson first half, both of which were almost tap ins. Ward the first one, headed it wide when scoring looked easier and I think the second was Rhodes. Having said that we were absolutely awful. Two good wingers in Jackson and Thomas but supply to them was really poor and when they got it options in the box were really slim, and that is with 2 strikers!!! If that is what MF calls an attacking aggressive formation I'd not pay to see a defensive one. It was truly awful. Why do we up our game in the last 10 minutes after playing the best part of the other 80 like headless chickens. I reiterate, truly awful.
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Post by 8pack on Oct 18, 2022 22:25:26 GMT 1
Absolutely shocking game, still no style of play, no creative quality...play with two up front yet zero service.. not one shot on target...
Ward did miss a sitter, the ref was awful... But we got exactly what we deserved...
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Post by mrg on Oct 18, 2022 22:25:36 GMT 1
When does Hoyle sack him though? When we’re already down? I don’t think he has it in him to swallow his pride for the second time this season, after the Schofield disaster. He'll get 12 games i reckon, has he had 4 lost 3 won 1? Bromby clearly stated he had to get this right. Then brought this guy in. If this doesn't work both are leaving.
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 18, 2022 22:26:18 GMT 1
Credit to Duane Holmes this seaosn. He's the one player who can come off after each game and say he gave it his all. He battled non stop tonight but there's only so much you can do on your own no credit for any player. we are bottom.. is his job.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 18, 2022 22:26:36 GMT 1
Reckons we didn’t take our chances again - what chances is he on about? Out of position Turton from 30 yards? Helik 35 yards? Two excellent crosses by Jackson first half, both of which were almost tap ins. Ward the first one, headed it wide when scoring looked easier and I think the second was Rhodes. Having said that we were absolutely awful. Two good wingers in Jackson and Thomas but supply to them was really poor and when they got it options in the box were really slim, and that is with 2 strikers!!! If that is what MF calls an attacking aggressive formation I'd not pay to see a defensive one. It was truly awful. Why do we up our game in the last 10 minutes after playing the best part of the other 80 like headless chickens. I reiterate, truly awful. Two good wingers? Come off it. Jackson is trying and can whip a good ball in but he wouldnt be playing in any other championship team. Thomas might as well not be on the pitch if he's not taking decent set pieces
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Oct 18, 2022 22:27:38 GMT 1
When does Hoyle sack him though? When we’re already down? I don’t think he has it in him to swallow his pride for the second time this season, after the Schofield disaster. He'll get 12 games i reckon, has he had 4 lost 3 won 1? Bromby clearly stated he had to get this right. Then brought this guy in. If this doesn't work both are leaving. they should both go now. no point delaying.
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Post by ambryboy on Oct 18, 2022 22:28:15 GMT 1
How the hell has this been allowed to happen? 5 months ago cheated out of a PL place. And now this. Please forward your replies to Mr Dean let everyone down Hoyle. Careful, Slapps will have you for that kind of comment.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Oct 18, 2022 22:28:37 GMT 1
Can anyone genuinely say that they saw anything tonight to suggest that we won't be in the bottom 3 for the rest of the season? [br Rock bottom nailed on after watching that shite tonight. Ffs 😪
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 18, 2022 22:28:49 GMT 1
I go to every game thinking “it can’t get any worse than the last game, it’s impossible”… Yet it happens. I can’t remember our football ever been this bad.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 18, 2022 22:29:06 GMT 1
Why sack him when our recruitment process/structure/continuity lust just means we’d replace him with someone exactly the same?
The Head Coach isn’t the biggest problem.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Oct 18, 2022 22:29:40 GMT 1
When does Hoyle sack him though? When we’re already down? I don’t think he has it in him to swallow his pride for the second time this season, after the Schofield disaster. Does he care about staying up? If so it’s tomorrow, Bromby goes too and he gets an experienced manager. Chris Wilder doesn’t have a job, there are plenty others too. But he won’t.
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Post by stevvy on Oct 18, 2022 22:31:12 GMT 1
If we don't pick up at least 7+ points in the 6 games before the world cup, I reckon we have a new manager by the time we start playing again after the world cup. Unfortunately I can't see where any points are coming from right now, let alone 7+
Oh and though the ref wasn't the reason we lost tonight (us being shit is why we lost), I'm certain he either had a PNE shirt on under his ref gear, or someone had slipped some money in his back pocket.
Overall, we got what we deserved. We had 1 real chance, after 6mins, and that was it. If we score that, who knows, but basically we were shit, and didn't ever really trouble them. The worst thing is that they were nothing special at all, at best they're bang average, nothing more, yet they beat us with ease.
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Post by boooothy on Oct 18, 2022 22:31:18 GMT 1
Need to dump this Ward and Rhodes thing. 2 players doing the same job. Same in midfield, Camara was shocking until Kasumu went off.
Where the feck is Hogg?
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 18, 2022 22:32:01 GMT 1
typical datm...the happy clappers ( you know who are) disappear after a defeat. We lack quality, regardless of the manager, we lack quality. Why ? Because its all about Dean Hoyle. Please Dean just do whatever you can and fuck off.
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Post by sapphireblue on Oct 18, 2022 22:32:43 GMT 1
Credit to Duane Holmes this seaosn. He's the one player who can come off after each game and say he gave it his all. He battled non stop tonight but there's only so much you can do on your own no credit for any player. we are bottom.. is his job. Which he is doing.
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Post by jakeg on Oct 18, 2022 22:32:57 GMT 1
No sugar coating from me although I'm.in the 'more postive' camp than a doom monger. One of those games I've seen loads of over the last 45 years where it was never ever going to be anything but a horrible performance and defeat from.minute one.
The worry and the hope are the same thing for me. The quality of the division. Its looked really poor and with a decent set up, consistent plan and some players stepping up should see us winning more. I can't remember seeing a team so far that have been amazing and most, even those like Rotherham and Preston who are in the top half, are simply awful.
Ward and Rhodes together isn't working....they aren't a partnership and ward just seems horribly ineffective whereas on his own last season he looked much more effective.
The confidence is what needs building back for some. Rudoni looked sharp and decent in the first few games but now looks scared to try stuff. Lees just looks petrified - OK.hes never been Maldini but the ball seems to terrify him. Now some seem to be turning on Camara, who's a young lad with a handful.of appearances trying to run a game on his own against experienced championship footballers. Lay off him.
Hogg back as soon as possible for solidity and leadership
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Post by mrg on Oct 18, 2022 22:34:19 GMT 1
I go to every game thinking “it can’t get any worse than the last game, it’s impossible”… Yet it happens. I can’t remember our football ever been this bad. The only reason you can't remember is because of your dob. That malcolm Mcdonald team was as pissed as he was in 87/88. I agree, in your lifetime its not been this much of a fuckup. At least Watford have the players to turn it round. I actually think we do, but the coach has to make it work. This guy has too much ego hiding his own frailties and the lads can smell it. Playing 3 at the back with these guys is criminal.
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 18, 2022 22:35:34 GMT 1
Dreadful second half, similar to Rotherham. We don’t have the players to play two up front, we’re desperate for more solidity in the middle of the park. Holmes the only one who turned up. Things need to improve soon.
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Post by boooothy on Oct 18, 2022 22:36:04 GMT 1
The team smacks of Barnsley and the manager of Siewart.
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Post by blanquiazules on Oct 18, 2022 22:36:58 GMT 1
3 at the back isn’t working.
Camara and Jackson look tidy players but don’t influence the game.
Holmes looks lively but he’s our #10 and we had zero shots on target so isn’t the answer either.
Ward and Rhodes are a horrible combination, both look more dangerous without the other.
The bench didn’t have anyone on it that I could see changing the game (and seemingly Fotheringham didn’t either)
We’re really in the sh!t aren’t we?
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Post by ldotm on Oct 18, 2022 22:37:49 GMT 1
typical datm...the happy clappers ( you know who are) disappear after a defeat. We lack quality, regardless of the manager, we lack quality. Why ? Because its all about Dean Hoyle. Please Dean just do whatever you can and fuck off. Get Dean Hoyle up front.
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Post by terrier2019 on Oct 18, 2022 22:38:13 GMT 1
When does Hoyle sack him though? When we’re already down? I don’t think he has it in him to swallow his pride for the second time this season, after the Schofield disaster. He can blame Bromby for this if he gets rid of both. do you trust hoyle to bring the right person in to save us if it comes to that!!.i dont i think hes made right choice apart from wagner.all last years success was under hodgkinson not hoyle.we looked well run last year the club seemed to be getting its identity back.then hoyle comes back and the club is in total dissaray.we have gone from being 3rd in league to this shambles and the only thing thats chanced is ebeneezer hoyles returned
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 18, 2022 22:38:21 GMT 1
I loved that season as I was young enough and stupid enough not to know any better. I’ve give up already this season. Only decent game was the 22 in the FA Cup v Man City Beating them 1-0 at home and stopping them getting promoted wasn't bad
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 18, 2022 22:40:04 GMT 1
Our midfield was Mooy and Hogg....in the championship...
now we have Kasuma..and Camara..
Dean lovers look away....
Thats league two...not even league one...
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 18, 2022 22:40:06 GMT 1
no idea!!. no style of pla!!.y no leaders on the pitch!!. no shots on target all game.tonight was a disgracefull performane.when you look at the subs bench theres nobody to change the game and thats down to the lack of investment in the squad 5 or 6 attack minded players on the bench and Rab brings on a #10 and plays him as a DM and that's the lot. The blokes fucking clueless.
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Post by Stiggy on Oct 18, 2022 22:41:44 GMT 1
We' re definitely in the shit when folk are calling for Hogg and Pearson to come in and save the season. Good god.
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Post by alfredsterrier on Oct 18, 2022 22:42:23 GMT 1
1 substitute all game. Really? At least try something different. If hard work wins games then put someone on who can at least run faster than the players you have on already and are tired.
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