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Post by aksaiblue on Mar 24, 2023 22:08:04 GMT 1
Dean Hoyle is and always will be a top man and a Huddersfield Town fan to me, who put his hard earned money up to improve the club and gave us hope, where there was none.
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Post by onesteviekindon on Mar 25, 2023 8:39:58 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 25, 2023 8:59:52 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago. All conjecture. |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 25, 2023 9:00:53 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago. Ya reckon ? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 9:19:29 GMT 1
Without Dean Hoyle there would be no Huddersfield Town today, thank you for that Sir. Why on earth not ? They were a financial shambles and of course he doesn't fancy saving the club a second time |
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Post by yappledapple on Mar 25, 2023 11:05:47 GMT 1
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Post by crux on Mar 25, 2023 11:12:22 GMT 1
Decent piece, pity about the 'facts' at the end 🤣🤣🤣. I presume the 'Top Flight' didn't exist before the Premier League 😉 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 11:13:16 GMT 1
He has done this for the better of the club
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 11:14:01 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago. So many just fail to understand anything |
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Post by ambryboy on Mar 25, 2023 11:26:31 GMT 1
Decent piece, pity about the 'facts' at the end 🤣🤣🤣. I presume the 'Top Flight' didn't exist before the Premier League 😉 I thought exactly that until I remembered that football only began in 1992  |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Mar 25, 2023 11:45:49 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago. Ya reckon ? I certainly do, in fact we could have even done a Bury and have to start again in the 8th tier. |
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 25, 2023 12:07:26 GMT 1
I certainly do, in fact we could have even done a Bury and have to start again in the 8th tier. Considering the absolute shitstorm behind the scenes at the club we still had a few interested parties wanting to buy us so I'm unclear why you feel we would have been liquidated? Who is to say if Dean hadn't bought us then someone else would have? |
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Post by sabailand on Mar 25, 2023 12:22:54 GMT 1
I certainly do, in fact we could have even done a Bury and have to start again in the 8th tier. The club the size of us wouldnt have done, i dont buy that at all, Portsmouth, Bolton, Charlton and probably numerous other clubs (some a lot smaller) who i cant even think of have been in a perilous state in recent years, they didnt sink to the 8th tier and neither would we have done. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 25, 2023 12:28:38 GMT 1
I certainly do, in fact we could have even done a Bury and have to start again in the 8th tier. The club the size of us wouldnt have done, i dont buy that at all, Portsmouth, Bolton, Charlton and probably numerous other clubs (some a lot smaller) who i cant even think of have been in a perilous state in recent years, they didnt sink to the 8th tier and neither would we have done. We went into admin, obviously in a perilous financial state and still went straight back up from L2, with an owner only using us to protect the Giants. But yeah without DH arriving we'd have been in the National League or worse  |
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Post by waggers on Mar 25, 2023 12:38:03 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago. Would we bollocks. He's got a huge part to play in our current perilous situation which a few are seemingly forgetting. It looks like he might have done the right thing at a very late stage. |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Mar 25, 2023 12:52:30 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago. Would we bollocks. He's got a huge part to play in our current perilous situation which a few are seemingly forgetting. It looks like he might have done the right thing at a very late stage. Having waved farewell to £40 million I'm sure he'll be comforted to know that you think he's done the right thing! |
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Post by wigster on Mar 25, 2023 13:06:05 GMT 1
They were a financial shambles and of course he doesn't fancy saving the club a second time Please give us ANY evidence for this please - not the saving the club a second time statement, but the "we wouldn't be in existence but for him" - your original statement.. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Mar 25, 2023 13:09:38 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago. What you're failing to realise is that is based on absolutely nothing whatsoever. |
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Post by waggers on Mar 25, 2023 13:16:11 GMT 1
Would we bollocks. He's got a huge part to play in our current perilous situation which a few are seemingly forgetting. It looks like he might have done the right thing at a very late stage. Having waved farewell to £40 million I'm sure he'll be comforted to know that you think he's done the right thing! I'm not going round in circles regarding this £40m quid the argument can go on forever. |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Mar 25, 2023 13:57:47 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago. What you're failing to realise is that is based on absolutely nothing whatsoever. No, it is an opinion based upon the knowledge that we were completely skint and, contrary to popular belief, we did not have a queue of billionaires hammering at the door. |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 25, 2023 14:11:37 GMT 1
Would we bollocks. He's got a huge part to play in our current perilous situation which a few are seemingly forgetting. It looks like he might have done the right thing at a very late stage. Having waved farewell to £40 million I'm sure he'll be comforted to know that you think he's done the right thing! Yeah, yeah, course he has. The blokes got a hell of a PR machine. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 25, 2023 14:30:27 GMT 1
I certainly do, in fact we could have even done a Bury and have to start again in the 8th tier. Considering the absolute shitstorm behind the scenes at the club we still had a few interested parties wanting to buy us so I'm unclear why you feel we would have been liquidated? Who is to say if Dean hadn't bought us then someone else would have? There had been when davy took the club off the administrators in 2003..theyd already described another bid as 'viable' in the press. I dont remember any other interest being mentioned in 2008 at the time Hoyle took the club off davy though. The problem with attracting any interest by 2008 was that the club had absolutely no assets whatsoever. Davy had removed them all. Its hard to imagine anyone other than a really passionate town fan would have been remotely interested in buying the club off davy,,,and not sure there were any around with the required funding other than Hoyle. |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 25, 2023 14:31:02 GMT 1
I'd be very, VERY surprised if Hoyle has waived that amount.
As for "ending up in the National League" without him, I'm sorry but that's utter nonsense.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 25, 2023 14:32:03 GMT 1
What so many people fail to understand is that without his timely intervention we'd have been playing in the National League years ago. How do you work that out? Do you really think that we are such a small club ? Do you not think that someone would have bought us or do you think that absolutely nobody would have been interested ? We have just been bought and we are losing £5m a year. Absolute bollocks. |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 25, 2023 14:32:10 GMT 1
Considering the absolute shitstorm behind the scenes at the club we still had a few interested parties wanting to buy us so I'm unclear why you feel we would have been liquidated? Who is to say if Dean hadn't bought us then someone else would have? There had been when davy took the club off the administrators in 2003..theyd already described another bid as 'viable' in the press. I dont remember any other interest being mentioned in 2008 at the time Hoyle took the club off davy though. The problem with attracting any interest by 2008 was that the club had absolutely no assets whatsoever. Davy had removed them all. Its hard to imagine anyone other than a really passionate town fan would have been remotely interested in buying the club off davy,,,and not sure there were any around with the required funding other than Hoyle. It might be my mind playing tricks but wasn't Graham Leslie rumoured to be interested back in 2008? |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 25, 2023 14:33:07 GMT 1
Without Dean Hoyle there would be no Huddersfield Town today, thank you for that Sir. Why on earth not ? Seriously, where do some people get this shit from. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 25, 2023 14:35:57 GMT 1
I certainly do, in fact we could have even done a Bury and have to start again in the 8th tier. The club the size of us wouldnt have done, i dont buy that at all, Portsmouth, Bolton, Charlton and probably numerous other clubs (some a lot smaller) who i cant even think of have been in a perilous state in recent years, they didnt sink to the 8th tier and neither would we have done. I could certainly see us going back to league 2 though and with the reduction of income that and falling gates would cause, HTFC (and KSDL ) going into administration... this time with no assets for the administrator to work with. We'll never know of course , but to me the whole thing was heading for some very bleak places in 2008. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 14:36:47 GMT 1
They were a financial shambles and of course he doesn't fancy saving the club a second time Please give us ANY evidence for this please - not the saving the club a second time statement, but the "we wouldn't be in existence but for him" - your original statement.. Logic, the club was in dire shape, like non league to non existant shape. Stop arguing for the sake of fucking arguing, fucking boring. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 25, 2023 14:36:53 GMT 1
There had been when davy took the club off the administrators in 2003..theyd already described another bid as 'viable' in the press. I dont remember any other interest being mentioned in 2008 at the time Hoyle took the club off davy though. The problem with attracting any interest by 2008 was that the club had absolutely no assets whatsoever. Davy had removed them all. Its hard to imagine anyone other than a really passionate town fan would have been remotely interested in buying the club off davy,,,and not sure there were any around with the required funding other than Hoyle. It might be my mind playing tricks but wasn't Graham Leslie rumoured to be interested back in 2008? Mr Galpharm? You may be right,, I dont recall hearing about it though. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 15:07:18 GMT 1
Pretty simple to me.
1. Nobody can say what would have happened without Hoyles intervention. You can speculate all you like but you can not know because it never happened, at least not in this Universe.
2. We had our most successful period by fay under Hoyle, and he deserves to take a lot of the credit for putting money in to make us competitive in League One and Championship.
3. A lot of mistakes were made when we got into the Premier League. Despite saying we would not make them we did and Hoyle has to take a lot of the responsibility for that too. We spent far too much money on poor players.
4. He created a lot of frustration with his priorities after relegation, selling to PH who was not financially stable enough, etc. Seemingly in an attempt to pull money back out which led to us not having money to spend.
5. He seems to have written off a lot of the loans he put in which is admirable, but its early days yet. He is a smart man and he knows he probably had no choice in order to sell.
I think Dean Hoyle has overall been a good steward of the club and I appreciate the Premier League time because it is something I never thought I would see. I think the opportunity was wasted to a large extent but people make mistakes. Hopefully the new people have the financial clout and wisdom to make us competitive.
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