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Post by yappledapple on Oct 26, 2022 19:59:23 GMT 1
Is this the same as goal hanger? The modern interfering of playoff offside rule did away with it? Never heard the ‘bug liner’ term but assumed it was the equivalent of ‘goal hanger’ which was used over the Pennines where I went to school. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 26, 2022 20:48:57 GMT 1
Glad I wasn't going mad! Must be a Holme Valley thing? State of the goal mouths??? I have wondered that before, I'm not sure but I'd guess probably just a derivation of the older 'bugliner'. |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 26, 2022 20:59:31 GMT 1
Glad I wasn't going mad! Must be a Holme Valley thing? State of the goal mouths??? I have wondered that before, I'm not sure but I'd guess probably just a derivation of the older 'bugliner'. Or vice versa. Never heard of a BUG liner before. |
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Post by space hardware on Oct 26, 2022 21:05:49 GMT 1
Definitely "bugliner" in my time at Lindley Junior School and Sally Nook.
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Oct 26, 2022 21:53:32 GMT 1
Alan Clarke at Leeds was definitely a bug liner apparently, he never scored a goal outside of the area.
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 26, 2022 21:58:09 GMT 1
Definitely "bugliner" in my time at Lindley Junior School and Sally Nook. was at Colne Valley also. |
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Post by schindlersmissed on Oct 26, 2022 22:25:21 GMT 1
Definitely "bugliner" in my time at Lindley Junior School and Sally Nook. was at Colne Valley also. Bug liner in Birkby! |
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Post by est1908 on Oct 26, 2022 23:02:04 GMT 1
Holme Valley rools... It's BOG, now bug off!...  |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 26, 2022 23:23:28 GMT 1
Bug liners always prospered when I was a kid when we played “Danger Goalie”.
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Post by sabailand on Oct 26, 2022 23:27:52 GMT 1
Bug liners always prospered when I was a kid when we played “Danger Goalie”. And were often frowned upon if you were on the recieving end of a sackload of goals.  |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 26, 2022 23:31:41 GMT 1
Bug liners always prospered when I was a kid when we played “Danger Goalie”. And were often frowned upon if you were on the recieving end of a sackload of goals. You’re right. Bug Liners were never popular characters. I remember one kid bagging 9 goals in 6 minutes. |
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Post by sabailand on Oct 26, 2022 23:44:31 GMT 1
And were often frowned upon if you were on the recieving end of a sackload of goals. You’re right. Bug Liners were never popular characters. I remember one kid bagging 9 goals in 6 minutes. 'You fkn bug liner' was shouted often when we were kids.  |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 26, 2022 23:52:59 GMT 1
You’re right. Bug Liners were never popular characters. I remember one kid bagging 9 goals in 6 minutes. 'You fkn bug liner' was shouted often when we were kids. It was actually regarded as a “position “ at my school. Long line of people - 2 captains take alternate turns to pick a player. Captain picks a kid and says “defence” Captain picks another kid and says “bug liner “. |
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Post by est1908 on Oct 26, 2022 23:58:21 GMT 1
And were often frowned upon if you were on the recieving end of a sackload of goals. You’re right. Bug Liners were never popular characters. I remember one kid bagging 9 goals in 6 minutes. They always scored with toe bungers too,,,, |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 27, 2022 5:50:57 GMT 1
Some of the best strikers the game has known have had a strong element of bogliner/bugliner to their game. Off the top of my head and up for argument,
Fowler
Lineker
Muller
Romario
Inzaghi
Rush
Rossi
Aldridge
In the same way they say 'one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter' it's also true to say 'one man's goal poacher is another man's bogliner/bugliner.'
I've just googled 'goal poacher' on a whim, and the names of Lineker, Rossi, Inzaghi and Muller all came up from my list.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Oct 27, 2022 7:28:45 GMT 1
Some of the best strikers the game has known have had a strong element of bogliner/bugliner to their game. Off the top of my head and up for argument, Fowler Lineker Muller Romario Inzaghi Rush Rossi Aldridge In the same way they say 'one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter' it's also true to say 'one man's goal poacher is another man's bogliner/bugliner.' I've just googled 'goal poacher' on a whim, and the names of Lineker, Rossi, Inzaghi and Muller all came up from my list. Agreed those guys are classic goal poachers - Inzaghi especially. Whether Haaland is is up for dabate. But a bugliner is something entirely different. I think a bugliner can only exist in a game with no offsides. I used to play in goal, and you'd never be without company if a bugliner was playing - they'd sometimes be behind you! If you think Wimbledon and Cambridge played long ball football, you should have seen some of the tactics on Almondbury rec during the school holidays when both teams had a bugliner! |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 27, 2022 9:33:32 GMT 1
Agreed, a bug/bogliner in its purest form is something different and can only exist in a game with no offsides. For sure.
I suppose a goal poacher or a tap-in merchant is the nearest you'll see in the pro game to reccy bug/bogliner.
I can see why Haaland's name came up as I got a video come up on my Youtube feed about a week or so ago featuring 'All Haaland's Premier League Goals' or something like that. On watching it I did think a lot of his goals were essentially tap-ins, granted they were fancy tap-ins, skillful tap-ins or athletic tap-ins. But he's obviously got much more to his game than that. There were goals from range, for example, goals that required a high level of team play and skill. He really is the complete striker. I think we should all enjoy his skills while we can because he's a big lad and unfortunately injuries and wear and tear will eventually take their toll.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 27, 2022 9:59:55 GMT 1
Agreed, a bug/bogliner in its purest form is something different and can only exist in a game with no offsides. For sure. I suppose a goal poacher or a tap-in merchant is the nearest you'll see in the pro game to reccy bug/bogliner. I can see why Haaland's name came up as I got a video come up on my Youtube feed about a week or so ago featuring 'All Haaland's Premier League Goals' or something like that. On watching it I did think a lot of his goals were essentially tap-ins, granted they were fancy tap-ins, skillful tap-ins or athletic tap-ins. But he's obviously got much more to his game than that. There were goals from range, for example, goals that required a high level of team play and skill. He really is the complete striker. I think we should all enjoy his skills while we can because he's a big lad and unfortunately injuries and wear and tear will eventually take their toll. Totally agree. A player I’d happily pay to watch live. |
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Post by +Transformed+ on Oct 27, 2022 11:19:54 GMT 1
You’re right. Bug Liners were never popular characters. I remember one kid bagging 9 goals in 6 minutes. They always scored with toe bungers too,,,, Toe bungers? Surely toe pokes? I kicked this bug liner post off. It's been great to see all the responses. The English language is a fascinating subject. Does anyone know whether the term was just a northern thing? |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 27, 2022 12:17:53 GMT 1
The English language is a fascinating subject. Does anyone know whether the term was just a northern thing? I Googled both 'bug liner' and 'football bug liner' and not a sausage which makes me think it's a vernacular term. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 27, 2022 12:19:27 GMT 1
Also Googled 'bog liner' in respect of the Holme Valley Massive. Same. Nothing.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Oct 27, 2022 12:25:11 GMT 1
It was always bugliner in 80's Golcar. A tactic which was frowned upon, but generally accepted as part of the schoolyard game, which also included 'goalie when' and having a 'penny on it' - awarding a penalty over a contentious decision such as whether a shot went over or under the imaginary crossbar. What he said. Golcar/Colne Valley it was Bugliner, Goalie When… and taking a Pen/Penny on it. I’d also add in ‘3 bat handles’ (hold the bat upside down, blade in hand, and face 3 balls. If you weren’t out in those 3 balls then the dispute was over and you carried on batting) for a cricketing dispute. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 27, 2022 13:49:26 GMT 1
They always scored with toe bungers too,,,, Toe bungers? Surely toe pokes? I kicked this bug liner post off. It's been great to see all the responses. The English language is a fascinating subject. Does anyone know whether the term was just a northern thing? I think the term must be specifically a Huddersfield thing. Amazing how terms differ over short distances in Yorkshire. For example , the tea cake with/ without currants debate and “Bits “ or “ Scraps”. Obviously “Bug” liner is the correct one to use!! |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Oct 27, 2022 14:54:09 GMT 1
The English language is a fascinating subject. Does anyone know whether the term was just a northern thing? I Googled both 'bug liner' and 'football bug liner' and not a sausage which makes me think it's a vernacular term. It gets a mention in here, as well as some other blasts form the past. Wembley, now I recall playing that. And SLAM. |
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Post by yappledapple on Oct 27, 2022 15:08:05 GMT 1
School-yard/field/park games, which will also have a variety of different names depending on where you grew up: Knock-out Wembley (singles or pairs) Goal-and-in (scorer swaps with the keeper) Wallie
I love nostalgia... |
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Post by mosher on Oct 27, 2022 15:26:05 GMT 1
School-yard/field/park games, which will also have a variety of different names depending on where you grew up: Knock-out Wembley (singles or pairs) Goal-and-in (scorer swaps with the keeper) I love nostalgia... Never did goal-and-in. Was always 3 and in for us. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 27, 2022 16:10:11 GMT 1
I Googled both 'bug liner' and 'football bug liner' and not a sausage which makes me think it's a vernacular term. It gets a mention in here, as well as some other blasts form the past. Wembley, now I recall playing that. And SLAM. SLAM Find a suitable wall connected to an end of terrace house . Take turns to aim the ball at the wall. Scarper when the house owner comes out after you. |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Oct 27, 2022 16:37:59 GMT 1
SLAM Find a suitable wall connected to an end of terrace house . Take turns to aim the ball at the wall. Scarper when the house owner comes out after you. That's it, if you failed to hit the house when it was your turn you were out. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 27, 2022 17:57:36 GMT 1
SLAM Find a suitable wall connected to an end of terrace house . Take turns to aim the ball at the wall. Scarper when the house owner comes out after you. That's it, if you failed to hit the house when it was your turn you were out. Some of the angles you had to attempt at hitting the wall were unbelievable. No idea if it’s still played but it does develop your ability to swerve the ball ietc. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 27, 2022 18:35:41 GMT 1
I can confirm in Meltham in the 1970s the terms were
Bogliner
Three & In
Cup Final (or Cupees)
Cup Final (especially the pairs variation) was the game where being a bogliner came into it's own. Why try and collect the ball 20 yards out when you can collect another team's rebound from the keeper & score from 6 inches.
Anywhere else play "21 & Up" 2 points for a headed goal 1 for a volley but a point to the keeper for a miss over the goal-line
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