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Post by mosher on Nov 4, 2022 10:49:17 GMT 1
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63506951FIFA clearly becoming concerned that their showpiece event will be marred by controversy. Maybe they should have thought this one through when they were ‘in dialogue’ with the entrants for hosting the event? A real shame that in this instance there’s no viable alternative to FIFA that clubs and countries could defect to. I hope it is remembered as a very controversial competition and FIFA get found out. That article sounds to me like FIFA telling people/nations not to complain if there is racism/homophobia/genderism. More concerned with their showpiece being seen in a good light than caring if someone's abused, beaten, arrested or killed on account of their race, gender or sexuality. Colour me surprised ... NOT! |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 4, 2022 18:48:13 GMT 1
Hope Helik gets picked now Yuta's out cos going off what I've seen from Page, so far, Sorba's as likely to get any game time as Wales' 3rd choice keeper.
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Post by harrychrishner on Nov 5, 2022 8:21:06 GMT 1
I'm feeling no enthusiasm for it at the moment. I don't know if that'll change during the tournament, possibly depending on how the results go I suppose. I plan to ignore it completely and spend my time "enjoying" a few weeks without any football at all! There's also a dark side of me that hopes for some huge bad publicity and the reputation of FIFA finally gets trashed forever.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 7, 2022 18:24:50 GMT 1
I see Brewdog are claiming to be an anti-sponsor?
I know their CEO had some bad press a while back, not sure if that was truly warranted or not, but this does strike me as a bit like Paddy Power claiming to 'not sponsor' us, whilst in the meantime legging us up for ridicule with that stupid shirt stunt...
I'm sure others will follow suit though...
As they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity. (or something like that)
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 8, 2022 13:54:19 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 8, 2022 14:20:03 GMT 1
Somehow, Blatter criticising it seems like Satan suggesting the burners are set a little hot down in hell…
Would be great if this tournament started a movement to bring football back to it’s roots. I suspect that’s a forlorn hope, but in this currently fucked up world nothing would surprise me.
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Post by softboy on Nov 8, 2022 17:19:32 GMT 1
So if you are going to Qatar it’s reasonable to respect their culture which I sort of get. But when people come to the UK we are asked to respect their culture.
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Post by sabailand on Nov 8, 2022 17:33:06 GMT 1
Sorry Blatter but you will be remembered as the money obssessed corrupt ex FIFA president who got rumbled, your legacy lies in tatters of your own making. |
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Post by bogart on Nov 8, 2022 17:35:33 GMT 1
That about sums him up.
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 9, 2022 11:45:43 GMT 1
Top prizes for hypocrisy going to Brew Dog with their anti-sponsorship of the World Cup for ethical reasons....whilst showing the games in their pubs to reap in the extra money, selling their own products in Qatar and themselves being accused of awful treatment of staff by ex employees.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 9, 2022 12:38:13 GMT 1
So if you are going to Qatar it’s reasonable to respect their culture which I sort of get. But when people come to the UK we are asked to respect their culture. Its the hypocrisy of US deciding that a massive and integral part of Islamic law should be questioned because we want to visit a country to watch and play football? Because we have decided that our indegenous religions and their biggest teachings and beliefs can simply be ignored, changed, laughed at etc then we should be able to do what we like elsewhere??? We then compound the hypocrisy by adding relegious elements to laws here to make the offence apparently worse with stronger penalties?  ? We have decided that some religious beliefs are incredibly important but the bits we dont like can be ignored? We pretend that religions here are all following just the bits we like and are complying with our laws on the parts of their religion we dont like??? You cannot tell folk who follow Gods Laws that 600 folk sitting in a building are above God, we cant start telling Qatar we expect to live there exactly as we do here??? Once you decide to go to somewhere like Qatar you accept the laws. Either you cut off these countries in total or you dont. The fucking idea we can tell those that follow Gods laws, how to go on because we 'are going to hell' is becoming less and less likely to win the day. We think our freedoms and lifestyle choices are winning converts across the world??? Look at the numbers...😬 |
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Post by mosher on Nov 9, 2022 13:23:48 GMT 1
So if you are going to Qatar it’s reasonable to respect their culture which I sort of get. But when people come to the UK we are asked to respect their culture. Its the hypocrisy of US deciding that a massive and integral part of Islamic law should be questioned because we want to visit a country to watch and play football? Because we have decided that our indegenous religions and their biggest teachings and beliefs can simply be ignored, changed, laughed at etc then we should be able to do what we like elsewhere??? We then compound the hypocrisy by adding relegious elements to laws here to make the offence apparently worse with stronger penalties? ? We have decided that some religious beliefs are incredibly important but the bits we dont like can be ignored? We pretend that religions here are all following just the bits we like and are complying with our laws on the parts of their religion we dont like??? You cannot tell folk who follow Gods Laws that 600 folk sitting in a building are above God, we cant start telling Qatar we expect to live there exactly as we do here??? Once you decide to go to somewhere like Qatar you accept the laws. Either you cut off these countries in total or you dont. The fucking idea we can tell those that follow Gods laws, how to go on because we 'are going to hell' is becoming less and less likely to win the day. We think our freedoms and lifestyle choices are winning converts across the world??? Look at the numbers...😬 I've said for years that we shouldn't be imposing our laws on other countries, whether they're good laws or not. They shouldn't have got the World Cup in the first place, but when they did we shouldn't be forcing them to change their laws, much as we disagree with them. Same with people smuggling drugs to places like Philippines and Singapore and then complain when they get their barbaric punishments meted out; tough shit. When the Euro's were on here we didn't change our laws for the visit of other countries' citizens and one of the reasons espoused for Brexit was to stop other countries making our laws, what's the difference? It may be Islamic law and alien to the majority of people here, but they follow the same doctrines that Christians did until relatively recently. It was only late in the 20th Century that homosexuality was decriminilised here so our Ivory Tower doesn't gleam THAT much!! |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Nov 10, 2022 17:13:08 GMT 1
Helik doesn't make the squad. Feel sorry for him.
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Post by leytherterrier on Nov 10, 2022 17:53:52 GMT 1
So only Thomas from the current squad gets picked but we do have Ex players that will be starring as Sabiri and Mooy both selected for Morocco and Australia
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 10, 2022 18:17:26 GMT 1
No Kosovo, no?
Hadergjonaj still in the national team?
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Post by digs on Nov 11, 2022 13:11:43 GMT 1
So only Thomas from the current squad gets picked but we do have Ex players that will be starring as Sabiri and Mooy both selected for Morocco and Australia Be loads on here that will want them to beat England too,I find it very strange |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Nov 11, 2022 13:45:34 GMT 1
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Post by tepidterrier on Nov 11, 2022 13:58:52 GMT 1
There's a player called Ken Taylor in the Dutch squad. Not the same one that played for us in the 1950s unfortunately
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Nov 11, 2022 14:09:36 GMT 1
So only Thomas from the current squad gets picked but we do have Ex players that will be starring as Sabiri and Mooy both selected for Morocco and Australia A few others too: Coady for England, Ward for Wales, plus hopefully Billing for Denmark, they've named 21 of the 26 so far but with the form he's in I'd be surprised if he doesn't make the cut. On that note, when was the last time Town had an academy graduate at the World Cup? Has there been anyone since Ray Wilson in 1966? |
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Post by tepidterrier on Nov 11, 2022 14:18:42 GMT 1
So only Thomas from the current squad gets picked but we do have Ex players that will be starring as Sabiri and Mooy both selected for Morocco and Australia A few others too: Coady for England, Ward for Wales, plus hopefully Billing for Denmark, they've named 21 of the 26 so far but with the form he's in I'd be surprised if he doesn't make the cut. On that note, when was the last time Town had an academy graduate at the World Cup? Has there been anyone since Ray Wilson in 1966? Denis Law played for Scotland in 1974. Would be very surprised if there's a more recent one |
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 11, 2022 16:55:15 GMT 1
Dont think Cherry was in the 82 squad. Would have been in 78 if we'd have qualified.
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Post by htfctx on Nov 11, 2022 17:19:12 GMT 1
3 of 4 into this series on Netflix.
Trailer on Youtube
Jack Warner - Vote broker for sale.
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Post by boooothy on Nov 11, 2022 19:10:15 GMT 1
All this morale high ground about workers and gay rights makes me sick. Who are we to tell these people how to live? Our country is a lawless disgrace.
The people or Qatar probably wonder why we let kids go round stabbing each other.
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Post by tepidterrier on Nov 11, 2022 19:41:56 GMT 1
All this morale high ground about workers and gay rights makes me sick. Who are we to tell these people how to live? Our country is a lawless disgrace. The people or Qatar probably wonder why we let kids go round stabbing each other. Our country is a disgrace but I hope we can both agree that it is a good thing that we don't put people in prison for 3 years for being gay, and that there weren't thousands of indentured workers killed when town built the mac. The world would be a very different place if Europeans and Yanks didn't decide we could just tell people how to live, and enforce it. That'd never lead me to thinking we should just leave countries with Sharia, fascism, etc. to just get on with it without showing some support of the people marginalised by those systems |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 11, 2022 20:21:52 GMT 1
All this morale high ground about workers and gay rights makes me sick. Who are we to tell these people how to live? Our country is a lawless disgrace. The people or Qatar probably wonder why we let kids go round stabbing each other. Our country is a disgrace but I hope we can both agree that it is a good thing that we don't put people in prison for 3 years for being gay, and that there weren't thousands of indentured workers killed when town built the mac. The world would be a very different place if Europeans and Yanks didn't decide we could just tell people how to live, and enforce it. That'd never lead me to thinking we should just leave countries with Sharia, fascism, etc. to just get on with it without showing some support of the people marginalised by those systems Lot of countries feel pretty much the same about our freedoms and values. Dont remember their football teams coming here and wearing armbands for anti abortion, anti lgbt etc etc etc..?. We still make the mistake that 'our' way is the best and utlimately the 'only' way once the uneducated, mediavel nations understand the errors of their ways. The growing numbers of Islamic folk around the world says very different. We are going to get a right shock at some point.. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Nov 11, 2022 21:05:58 GMT 1
Our country is a disgrace but I hope we can both agree that it is a good thing that we don't put people in prison for 3 years for being gay, and that there weren't thousands of indentured workers killed when town built the mac. The world would be a very different place if Europeans and Yanks didn't decide we could just tell people how to live, and enforce it. That'd never lead me to thinking we should just leave countries with Sharia, fascism, etc. to just get on with it without showing some support of the people marginalised by those systems Lot of countries feel pretty much the same about our freedoms and values. Dont remember their football teams coming here and wearing armbands for anti abortion, anti lgbt etc etc etc..?. We still make the mistake that 'our' way is the best and utlimately the 'only' way once the uneducated, mediavel nations understand the errors of their ways. The growing numbers of Islamic folk around the world says very different. We are going to get a right shock at some point.. from my experience, for every muslim convert I've met in this country I've met 2 or 3 times as many secular muslims or ex muslims |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Nov 11, 2022 21:32:05 GMT 1
Our country is a disgrace but I hope we can both agree that it is a good thing that we don't put people in prison for 3 years for being gay, and that there weren't thousands of indentured workers killed when town built the mac. The world would be a very different place if Europeans and Yanks didn't decide we could just tell people how to live, and enforce it. That'd never lead me to thinking we should just leave countries with Sharia, fascism, etc. to just get on with it without showing some support of the people marginalised by those systems Lot of countries feel pretty much the same about our freedoms and values. Dont remember their football teams coming here and wearing armbands for anti abortion, anti lgbt etc etc etc..?. We still make the mistake that 'our' way is the best and utlimately the 'only' way once the uneducated, mediavel nations understand the errors of their ways. The growing numbers of Islamic folk around the world says very different. We are going to get a right shock at some point.. What do you mean by we are going to get a right shock at some point |
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Post by boooothy on Nov 11, 2022 22:41:13 GMT 1
All this morale high ground about workers and gay rights makes me sick. Who are we to tell these people how to live? Our country is a lawless disgrace. The people or Qatar probably wonder why we let kids go round stabbing each other. Our country is a disgrace but I hope we can both agree that it is a good thing that we don't put people in prison for 3 years for being gay, and that there weren't thousands of indentured workers killed when town built the mac. The world would be a very different place if Europeans and Yanks didn't decide we could just tell people how to live, and enforce it. That'd never lead me to thinking we should just leave countries with Sharia, fascism, etc. to just get on with it without showing some support of the people marginalised by those systems Oh yeah i’m not playing down those things, i find them quite repugnant and have no issues with rainbow armbands and the like. What i can’t stand is us banging on like we are perfect and other countries should be like us. I’d certainly feel safer walking round Qatar or Dubai than i would most parts of London. Having said that i’m not gay or a migrant worker. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 11, 2022 22:47:36 GMT 1
Lot of countries feel pretty much the same about our freedoms and values. Dont remember their football teams coming here and wearing armbands for anti abortion, anti lgbt etc etc etc..?. We still make the mistake that 'our' way is the best and utlimately the 'only' way once the uneducated, mediavel nations understand the errors of their ways. The growing numbers of Islamic folk around the world says very different. We are going to get a right shock at some point.. What do you mean by we are going to get a right shock at some point We think the world is coming round to our way of thinking..our take on lifestyles and freedoms,beliefs,futures. I think we might find over the next few years they are not. Many things are not going the way we thought or think they should. We seem to hope that by ignoring them or pretending they are not what they are, it might all go away. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 12, 2022 14:39:01 GMT 1
What do you mean by we are going to get a right shock at some point We think the world is coming round to our way of thinking..our take on lifestyles and freedoms,beliefs,futures. I think we might find over the next few years they are not. Many things are not going the way we thought or think they should. We seem to hope that by ignoring them or pretending they are not what they are, it might all go away. Im not sure many people believe that to be honest. If they do, they live in a bubble. The world is full of different beliefs and ideologies. Wether you agree with them or not is a different story. |
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