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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 14, 2023 23:23:30 GMT 1
Telling him he can fuck off after a poor 20 minutes on the pitch is just over the top. I'm sure he'll survive. What I said is, we are in a relegation battle. Anyone who isn't prepared to roll up their sleeves to help the team and dig in can fuck off. The kid chucked the towel in after 5 minutes of constantly giving the ball away. Zero contribution, went missing. Pathétique. I bet you were one of those who weren't that bothered about winning the play off final last year, weren't you.  |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 14, 2023 23:26:36 GMT 1
You mean he did exactly what Sorba has done since the WC ? Worse. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 14, 2023 23:27:21 GMT 1
You mean he did exactly what Sorba has done since the WC ? Worse. Impossible |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 14, 2023 23:35:38 GMT 1
The fact I haven't been able to see the game today is completely separate to an opinion (yes my opinion and you are entitled to yours) that ripping into a young kid with that sort of language isn't acceptable or in any way going to help the situation we are in. Debate whether it was the right sub, debate whether we defended the lead too deep, debate many things but I really really don't like the personal nature of some of the abuse at times on here. That's not a specific reference to you ...just in general this season, and I understand the reasons why, seems to have brought out the vitriol. I'm very sure diarra didn't mean to under perfom (taking your word that's actually the truth). I'm very sure fotheringham is trying to succeed. Why wouldn't he. Yes- completely valid to say someone played poorly or a manager made the wrong decision or isn't the solution. I just felt your specific way of explaining your frustration with todays game.wasnt fair....that's all. I'm.sure you would be as delighted as me for us to find ANY way out of this season without relegation. I've said it since our second game this season, anything 21st and above is a good season given the situation the club is in. The kid needs waking up, the kid needs some fire in his belly. The kid needs informing how lucky he is to be wearing a Huddersfield Town shirt. The kid needs telling in no uncertain terms he's in a relegation fight and that performance today was nothing short of unacceptable. The kid needs to be informed that if he isn't going to fight for survival, he can fuck off. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jan 14, 2023 23:39:11 GMT 1
The fact I haven't been able to see the game today is completely separate to an opinion (yes my opinion and you are entitled to yours) that ripping into a young kid with that sort of language isn't acceptable or in any way going to help the situation we are in. Debate whether it was the right sub, debate whether we defended the lead too deep, debate many things but I really really don't like the personal nature of some of the abuse at times on here. That's not a specific reference to you ...just in general this season, and I understand the reasons why, seems to have brought out the vitriol. I'm very sure diarra didn't mean to under perfom (taking your word that's actually the truth). I'm very sure fotheringham is trying to succeed. Why wouldn't he. Yes- completely valid to say someone played poorly or a manager made the wrong decision or isn't the solution. I just felt your specific way of explaining your frustration with todays game.wasnt fair....that's all. I'm.sure you would be as delighted as me for us to find ANY way out of this season without relegation. I've said it since our second game this season, anything 21st and above is a good season given the situation the club is in. The kid needs waking up, the kid needs some fire in his belly. The kid needs informing how lucky he is to be wearing a Huddersfield Town shirt. The kid needs telling in no uncertain terms he's in a relegation fight and that performance today was nothing short of unacceptable. The kid needs to be informed that if he isn't going to fight for survival, he can fuck off. This was Chicken of the Examiner's take on Diarra. Doesn't sound quite as bad as the picture you're painting, but its all about opinions I guess. "Brahima Diarra (for Holmes 76) – Sent on to try and give Town something on the counter after Holmes picked up a knock. Had some promising flashes that just didn't quite result in anything. 5" |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 14, 2023 23:39:16 GMT 1
I hope you said that in your best French accent, in case Brahima is reading... |
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Post by jakeg on Jan 14, 2023 23:41:32 GMT 1
The fact I haven't been able to see the game today is completely separate to an opinion (yes my opinion and you are entitled to yours) that ripping into a young kid with that sort of language isn't acceptable or in any way going to help the situation we are in. Debate whether it was the right sub, debate whether we defended the lead too deep, debate many things but I really really don't like the personal nature of some of the abuse at times on here. That's not a specific reference to you ...just in general this season, and I understand the reasons why, seems to have brought out the vitriol. I'm very sure diarra didn't mean to under perfom (taking your word that's actually the truth). I'm very sure fotheringham is trying to succeed. Why wouldn't he. Yes- completely valid to say someone played poorly or a manager made the wrong decision or isn't the solution. I just felt your specific way of explaining your frustration with todays game.wasnt fair....that's all. I'm.sure you would be as delighted as me for us to find ANY way out of this season without relegation. I've said it since our second game this season, anything 21st and above is a good season given the situation the club is in. The kid needs waking up, the kid needs some fire in his belly. The kid needs informing how lucky he is to be wearing a Huddersfield Town shirt. The kid needs telling in no uncertain terms he's in a relegation fight and that performance today was nothing short of unacceptable. The kid needs to be informed that if he isn't going to fight for survival, he can fuck off. I think we'll agree on the relative (but intensely) frustrating reality of what success looks like this season. I'll also agree we need commitment and desire....we haven't got a lot else this season to base everything on. We'll probably have to disagree about the way we might describe that in terms of one performance from one young player...who most would say showed a great deal of desire in the away win at Preston....in fact probably single handedly changed the game with a committed run, desire to win the ball and create the chance to equalise |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 14, 2023 23:44:06 GMT 1
This was Chicken of the Examiner's take on Diarra. Doesn't sound quite as bad as the picture you're painting, but its all about opinions I guess. "Brahima Diarra (for Holmes 76) – Sent on to try and give Town something on the counter after Holmes picked up a knock. Had some promising flashes that just didn't quite result in anything. 5" He's at The Examiner. He's not going to print 'he was fucking shite' was he? 5 is generous beyond measure. If Mr Chicken thinks that was a 5 performance today, I'd seriously question Mr Chicken's professional judgement. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jan 14, 2023 23:47:22 GMT 1
This was Chicken of the Examiner's take on Diarra. Doesn't sound quite as bad as the picture you're painting, but its all about opinions I guess. "Brahima Diarra (for Holmes 76) – Sent on to try and give Town something on the counter after Holmes picked up a knock. Had some promising flashes that just didn't quite result in anything. 5" He's at The Examiner. He's not going to print 'he was fucking shite' was he? 5 is generous beyond measure. If Mr Chicken thinks that was a 5 performance today, I'd seriously question Mr Chicken's professional judgement. Interesting though that nobody else appears to have supported such a damning opinion of him so far. |
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Post by wildhogg on Jan 14, 2023 23:52:33 GMT 1
Let's be honest, Diarra was awful. However, he's an attacking player whose key attribute is running with the ball. Despite this, the lad was stuck on the pitch with teammates who had (for some reason) clearly been told to sit back, hoof the ball upfield and practice defending for 45 minutes. He didn't look like he had a clue how to fit into that.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 14, 2023 23:52:59 GMT 1
I think we'll agree on the relative (but intensely) frustrating reality of what success looks like this season. I'll also agree we need commitment and desire....we haven't got a lot else this season to base everything on. We'll probably have to disagree about the way we might describe that in terms of one performance from one young player...who most would say showed a great deal of desire in the away win at Preston....in fact probably single handedly changed the game with a committed run, desire to win the ball and create the chance to equalise We're not discussing the Preston game though Jake, but I completely agree he did very well in that game. One good game in 4 or 5 isn't going to cut it and yes we both want more. Completely happy to agree to disagree too and I do like the cut of your jib, Jake. It is OK to swear though, especially on a football field or watching a game in your own home, if you hit your thumb with a hammer of if an idiot motorist cuts you up. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 14, 2023 23:53:53 GMT 1
Let's be honest, Diarra was awful. However, he's an attacking player whose key attribute is running with the ball. Despite this, the lad was stuck on the pitch with teammates who had (for some reason) clearly been told to sit back, hoof the ball upfield and practice defending for 45 minutes. He didn't look like he had a clue how to fit into that. Fair assessment. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 14, 2023 23:56:35 GMT 1
Not going to be able to reply to everyone, I'm sorry. There are 6 notifications in my inbox and though I keep answering them, that number isn't going down and I still haven't poured myself a drink tonight yet. Think I've been home 2 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 0:16:41 GMT 1
I’m gutted about this one but it’ll be soon forgotten if we win next week. Big game. Will we start 1-0 up to make up for the "goal" in the first game? |
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Post by 28901 on Jan 15, 2023 0:27:45 GMT 1
Wrong substitution alright. Incredibly overrated player on here. That was a pathetic cameo today, to be so far behind the pace of the game with fresh legs too. Not good. I agree with you on the wrong substitution. We needed an outlet with someone to carry the ball into their corners. Diarra couldn't do it, I think Thomas could. Its obvious to anyone with half a brain that Thomas, crap as he has been, should have come on and got the ball into corners. Its Fotheringham to blame not Diarra. |
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Post by bleaklow on Jan 15, 2023 0:55:54 GMT 1
The point is, even if you're playing against a non-league side, and decide to play attack and defence for 45 minutes, the law of averages says
that sooner or later a cross that's delivered will drop nicely for an attacker, or a defender will make a slight error. Surely, you can
set up to defend well without deciding not to attack at all, because I thought the Hull defence looked shaky in the first half. I also noticed that, at the end, we had two players on the field who couldn't get into two of our possible relegation rivals i.e Coventry and Rotherham, yet they
are considered good enough for Huddersfield Town - they wouldn't get into any other championship sides either. No, you've got to see at least a modicum of attacking intention instead of playing as though you're opponents are one of the top six clubs in the Premier League. And when are we going
to see the arrival of a truly quality loan from the Premiership - someone with scintillating skill.
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Post by royrace on Jan 15, 2023 0:57:29 GMT 1
On course for relegation, will pick up points from time to time but days like today need to result in a W, the coach isn’t good enough to deliver that, the end result will be relegation.
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Post by bleaklow on Jan 15, 2023 1:01:10 GMT 1
The point is, even if you're playing against a non-league side, and decide to play attack and defence for 45 minutes, the law of averages says
that sooner or later a cross that's delivered will drop nicely for an attacker, or a defender will make a slight error. Surely, you can
set up to defend well without deciding not to attack at all, because I thought the Hull defence looked shaky in the first half. I also noticed that, at the end, we had two players on the field who couldn't get into two of our possible relegation rivals i.e Coventry and Rotherham, yet they
are considered good enough for Huddersfield Town - they wouldn't get into any other championship sides either. No, you've got to see at least a modicum of attacking intention instead of playing as though you're opponents are one of the top six clubs in the Premier League. And when are we going
to see the arrival of a truly quality loan from the Premiership - someone with scintillating skill.
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Post by 28901 on Jan 15, 2023 1:15:56 GMT 1
At the end of the day, and it really is the end of my day, every week there is someone somewhere getting their weekend ruined in the 94th 95th 96th 97th
98th minute.
Today was our turn.
Shit happens. Man up and accept it.
It would be nice if just occasionally we fucked someone else off in the 98th though.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jan 15, 2023 8:37:22 GMT 1
Waking up Sunday morning.
Positives
Bilo - two great saves
Lowton - so much better than anybody else in that position.
Hogg - so much better with him in the team.
The defence - looked solid.
Pearson - great to see him back. Organised everything at the back.
Negatives
Midfield creativity - average
Rhodes - not his best game
High - very odd he just came straight back in.
Ball retention - great in defence piss poor in attack.
Diarra - sorry but Thomas should have come on.
MF- I’m struggling to see what his plan is, other than to sit deep. Offensively we are awful.
West Brom - won again. Carlos is doing his thing.
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 15, 2023 9:24:36 GMT 1
Waking up Sunday morning. Positives Bilo - two great saves Lowton - so much better than anybody else in that position. Hogg - so much better with him in the team. The defence - looked solid. Pearson - great to see him back. Organised everything at the back. Negatives Midfield creativity - average Rhodes - not his best game High - very odd he just came straight back in. Ball retention - great in defence piss poor in attack. Diarra - sorry but Thomas should have come on. MF- I’m struggling to see what his plan is, other than to sit deep. Offensively we are awful. West Brom - won again. Carlos is doing his thing. Pretty fair. I guess high started because of injuries?? Diarra coming on was the killer though. Surely sorba had to come on Young kid was so naive. Just keep the ball or knock it into the corner and run like mad. So disappointed. MF needs to a take a good look at those added on minutes though, as our game management was really poor. |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Jan 15, 2023 9:27:03 GMT 1
I'd have been pissed off if we'd set up like that against Man City never mind Hull.
When has 11 men behind the ball ever worked over a season.
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jan 15, 2023 10:17:35 GMT 1
Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, I haven't got time to trawl through the board today. Why wasn't Knockaert playing yesterday, please don't tell me he's injured already!
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Post by ilsonterrier on Jan 15, 2023 10:22:51 GMT 1
I’m gutted about this one but it’ll be soon forgotten if we win next week. Big game. Will we start 1-0 up to make up for the "goal" in the first game? And defend it for the full 90 minutes? |
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Post by wildhogg on Jan 15, 2023 10:24:10 GMT 1
Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, I haven't got time to trawl through the board today. Why wasn't Knockaert playing yesterday, please don't tell me he's injured already! I think he was injured when we signed him. He went off early doors into his last game in Greece. |
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Post by terrier17 on Jan 15, 2023 10:31:55 GMT 1
I think we’ll have a far better chance in staying up without this clown in charge for the rest of the season. That goal from Hull was coming all second half, camped in our own half defending ball after ball coming into the box.
How Scott High can come anywhere near this squad, let alone play a full 90 minutes is beyond me. The game just passed him by, without him having any influence whatsoever. The lad would struggle in league 1!
We still lack that LOB type player that can transition our team from defence into attack. Rudoni did that in some moments within the 1st half, but as soon as he went off, we lost our only outlet. When we did build up an attack in the 1st half, I always felt like we was lacking an extra man up there to really make a difference.
Anyhow, makes Blackpool a must win now.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jan 15, 2023 10:32:12 GMT 1
Waking up Sunday morning. Positives Bilo - two great saves Lowton - so much better than anybody else in that position. Hogg - so much better with him in the team. The defence - looked solid. Pearson - great to see him back. Organised everything at the back. Negatives Midfield creativity - average Rhodes - not his best game High - very odd he just came straight back in. Ball retention - great in defence piss poor in attack. Diarra - sorry but Thomas should have come on. MF- I’m struggling to see what his plan is, other than to sit deep. Offensively we are awful. West Brom - won again. Carlos is doing his thing. Thought Rhodes did ok first half considering he was quite isolated and the quality of ball into him wasn't great, anonymous second half though. What I couldn't get my head round is why our out ball was always so central. We were playing with wing backs and a striker in Waghorn who is prepared to run yet hardly anything went into the channels second half. The best way to time waste late on is to run the ball into the corners surely? Diarra 3 or 4 times broke out of midfield and ran straight into the middle where all the traffic was. There was a moment around the 80th minute where High broke forward and had acres of space to play Ruffels in down the left and he played the pass too straight and to their defender. Simple stuff like that just turns possession over way too easily. |
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Post by artysid on Jan 15, 2023 10:38:14 GMT 1
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jan 15, 2023 10:43:14 GMT 1
Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, I haven't got time to trawl through the board today. Why wasn't Knockaert playing yesterday, please don't tell me he's injured already! |
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Post by rocky on Jan 15, 2023 10:55:11 GMT 1
It was coming Everyone in the stand could feel it I can't believe he brought Diarra on instead of Thomas. Clearly Diarra has talent but he gave the ball away time and time again. This will continue to happen if we consistently sit back all the time That’s pretty much how I saw it. I can understand them sitting so deep for the last 10 minutes or so, but to play the entire 2nd half defending, will usually end up only one way. Yeah it had to be Thomas over Diarra, who’s absolutely nowhere near ready for this level. It was so disappointing at the end but the injury time was about right cos Hogg was down ages. On the positive side, the players battled hard and clearly gave their all for the cause. I was impressed with Lowton, he looked good in that role and Pearson can only strengthen the team |
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