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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 17:55:34 GMT 1
Its sad how weve written a kid off when really hes just a baby in goalkeeper terms... especially when hes one of 'our own' and a big Town fan. yeah he made errors of judgement but he also made a lot of extremely good saves. Ill be glad if he doesnt play for us again because the pressure he'd be under would be immense and the first error he made, even a slight one, would have howls of derision coming at him from the stands. Hopefully he can get out on another loan, actually play and earn himself a contract as someones first choice. I don't buy into this "just a kid" line. Yes he's young compared to when goalkeepers come into their prime, but how many now first-team/choice goalkeepers were still just making substitute appearances (or in Schofield's case, not) at the age of 23? And wouldn't be able to get into the first team of a Scottish Premier League team? Done a quick check at the top end of our table... Burnley - Arijanet Muric - only 24 and already played regularly in the Dutch and Turkish top divisions Sheff Utd - Wes Foderingham - 32 but at 23/24 was regular starter at the top end of League One Watford - Daniel Bachmann - 28 but at 23/24 was back-up in the Premier League Blackburn - Thomas Kaminski - 30 but at 23/24 was first choice in Belgian top division Schofield is not even close to where these keepers were at the same age so he's either going to be a very late bloomer or does not have a career in the football league. If you are saying he should be in front of David Marshall at Hibs who has played over 600 professional games, including in the Premiership with Hull, and been capped 46 times by Scotland, that is a big ask. Lee Nicholls was struggling to get games with league 1 MK Dons season before last so it is no gauge of ability. Displacing a keeper doing a good job is hard unless they get injured. I don't know what level Schofield will succeed but I am sure he will. He really needs game time but finding that regularly at a decent level will be very hard.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 17:58:13 GMT 1
I take your point, and there are exceptions to the rule, but Nicolls was only 19 when he joined Northampton and played every game that season including the play-off final. 3-4 years younger than Schofield is now. Nicholls only played 9 games in the two season after that, so by the time he was Schofields age now, he actually had a similar appearance record, though almost all his games were at a lower level. Think Schofields problem, like a lot of keepers, is he needs to play to improve the weak parts of his game, and getting gametime is difficult. Doubt hes got anything from the loan at Hibs. I think his chance at town has gone now.. the support just wont have him...so hopefully hell get a loan at a L2 club or maybe even National league and build his career from there. Schofield's problem was he's shit. End of. I sometimes think you do stuff like this just to try to be clever. A bit controversial. I don't think for one minute you believe half of the guff you write. Boredom maybe? 'needs to play to improve the weak parts of his game' You mean like trying to defend corners from inside his own goal net. Worst goalkeeper I've ever seen in any league for any side. I breathed an almighty sigh of relief when we got shut. Never thought for one second he'd be back to darken our door again. But of course he deserves his chance doesn't he cos he's a local lad and all that.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 27, 2023 18:00:08 GMT 1
Its sad how weve written a kid off when really hes just a baby in goalkeeper terms... especially when hes one of 'our own' and a big Town fan. yeah he made errors of judgement but he also made a lot of extremely good saves. Ill be glad if he doesnt play for us again because the pressure he'd be under would be immense and the first error he made, even a slight one, would have howls of derision coming at him from the stands. Hopefully he can get out on another loan, actually play and earn himself a contract as someones first choice. He was playing behind a sieve and we committed hari kari almost every game trying to play it out(fuck about with it) from the back.. His decision making was as bad as everyone elses but as a keeper it cant be..?
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 27, 2023 18:01:44 GMT 1
How has it been allowed to happen though? Americans allegedly stretching off in the car park, Dean desperate to get out, circling the relegation trapdoor. It was so crucial and we’ve ballsed it right up yet again.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 18:03:39 GMT 1
I don't know what level Schofield will succeed Me too. I'm stuck between Kirkheaton Rovers Ressies and Wooldale Wanderers Ressies.
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Post by 28901 on Jan 27, 2023 18:06:03 GMT 1
Nicholls only played 9 games in the two season after that, so by the time he was Schofields age now, he actually had a similar appearance record, though almost all his games were at a lower level. Think Schofields problem, like a lot of keepers, is he needs to play to improve the weak parts of his game, and getting gametime is difficult. Doubt hes got anything from the loan at Hibs. I think his chance at town has gone now.. the support just wont have him...so hopefully hell get a loan at a L2 club or maybe even National league and build his career from there. Schofield's problem was he shit. End of. I sometimes think you do stuff like this just to try to be clever. A bit controversial. I don't think for one minute you believe half of the guff you write. Boredpm maybe? 'needs to play to improve the weak parts of his game' You mean like trying to defend corners from inside his own goal net. Worst goalkeeper I've ever seen in any league for any side. I breathed an almighty sigh of relief when we got shut. Never thought for one second he'd be back to darken our door again. But of course he deserves his chance doesn't he cos he's a local lad and all that. So are you saying he should start Saturday?
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 18:15:26 GMT 1
So are you saying he should start Saturday? I'm saying that anyone who mentions Nicholls and Schofield in the same breath should be sectioned.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 27, 2023 18:17:10 GMT 1
Hoping... no... PRAYING... that Scofields recall is to sort the lad out with another club. I'd take Danny Scofield in nets over Shaggy. The social media team love a highlight reel, and his video says it all. Surely everyone from management, staff, to recruitment and the bovril vendor have seen it. Nightmare fuel! Like watching Cal The Dragon
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Post by harris on Jan 27, 2023 18:18:06 GMT 1
Hoping... no... PRAYING... that Scofields recall is to sort the lad out with another club. I'd take Danny Scofield in nets over Shaggy. The social media team love a highlight reel, and his video says it all. Surely everyone from management, staff, to recruitment and the bovril vendor have seen it. Nightmare fuel! Like watching Cal The Dragon Rumour has it Sparta Pebbles beat Ryan Schofield in the gardens league
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 18:20:51 GMT 1
I don't know what level Schofield will succeed Me too. I'm stuck between Kirkheaton Rovers Ressies and Wooldale Wanderers Ressies. What is it with you and running our players down? The lad was pushed in too soon and had a hard time, he is not the first player for that to happen to but when you are in goal there is no hiding place. He had a constantly changing back line in front of him and they were not great. He will make it as a professional footballer. He may not get to Championship level but he will still do OK.
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 27, 2023 18:21:28 GMT 1
Schofield was let down by the club.
He saved us from a very heavy defeat against Lincoln and even that game his kicking was poor.
Everyone could see it. He is also dreadfully skinny for a keeper. Remember when Man U signed de gea and immediately they got him on a bulking up plan. I do wonder what they do on a daily basis at our club.
Anyway, he’s still a kid in keeper years and could easily make a career out of it yet. But probably not at our club due to all the pros in the stands that will refuse to ever give the kid a chance
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 18:30:03 GMT 1
So you're saying he was shit but we're not allowed to point out he was shit?
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Post by willo on Jan 27, 2023 18:33:11 GMT 1
Hoping... no... PRAYING... that Scofields recall is to sort the lad out with another club. I'd take Danny Scofield in nets over Shaggy. The social media team love a highlight reel, and his video says it all. Surely everyone from management, staff, to recruitment and the bovril vendor have seen it. Nightmare fuel! Like watching Cal The Dragon He looks like somebody from the crowd who won a competition and the prize was to be our goalkeeper for the afternoon. Simply dreadful and I don’t want to see him anywhere near our team sheet ever again.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 18:40:07 GMT 1
We shouldn't even be considering him playing for the club again. If anything shows how far we have fallen, it's this. If we are going to find him another club, fair enough. Thomas out on loan, Schofield back in nets. Great way to fight a relegation battle. Fuck me rigid.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jan 27, 2023 18:40:12 GMT 1
Nicholls only played 9 games in the two season after that, so by the time he was Schofields age now, he actually had a similar appearance record, though almost all his games were at a lower level. Think Schofields problem, like a lot of keepers, is he needs to play to improve the weak parts of his game, and getting gametime is difficult. Doubt hes got anything from the loan at Hibs. I think his chance at town has gone now.. the support just wont have him...so hopefully hell get a loan at a L2 club or maybe even National league and build his career from there. Schofield's problem was he's shit. End of. I sometimes think you do stuff like this just to try to be clever. A bit controversial. I don't think for one minute you believe half of the guff you write. Boredom maybe? 'needs to play to improve the weak parts of his game' You mean like trying to defend corners from inside his own goal net. Worst goalkeeper I've ever seen in any league for any side. I breathed an almighty sigh of relief when we got shut. Never thought for one second he'd be back to darken our door again. But of course he deserves his chance doesn't he cos he's a local lad and all that. He is not even the worst goalkeeper to play for Town in recent memory. That would be Joel Pereira. At least Schofield had a couple of decent games for Town.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 18:43:17 GMT 1
That's true, but doesn't give me any happiness.
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Post by 28901 on Jan 27, 2023 18:44:55 GMT 1
So you're saying he was shit but I'm not allowed to point out he was shit? I remember he had the opportunity to shine in his recall match, FA Cup v Burnley. Knocked out our own defender by punching him instead of the ball, conceded a howler and got stretchered off after 20 minutes never to be seen again. Some cameo.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 27, 2023 18:51:08 GMT 1
That first goal against Fulham will never not be funny. It's just ridiculous that he did what he did. The sheer panic to react like that highlights exactly why he shouldn't be anywhere near a starting 11 at this level. Hopefully with age he will start making better decisions and be a bit more composed.
I do enjoy his angry little kicks at the ball whenever he concedes though.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 18:52:01 GMT 1
So you're saying he was shit but I'm not allowed to point out he was shit? I remember he had the opportunity to shine in his recall match, FA Cup v Burnley. Knocked out our own defender by punching him instead of the ball, conceded a howler and got stretchered off after 20 minutes never to be seen again. Some cameo. I remember it all live. You had to feel for him, he was a complete nightmare keeper. So far out of his comfort zone it wasn't funny. Club's fault apparently, or defences' fault. Sommat like that.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 18:55:05 GMT 1
Schofield was let down by the club. Any chance you could qualify that statement, my friend?
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Post by betsybulls on Jan 27, 2023 18:55:50 GMT 1
We shouldn't even be considering him playing for the club again. If anything shows how far we have fallen, it's this. If we are going to find him another club, fair enough. Thomas out on loan, Schofield back in nets. Great way to fight a relegation battle. Fuck me rigid. I didn’t realise that you’d seen tomorrow’s starting line up? people need to take a second and think loanee returns to parent club after not playing a game, no surprise, regardless of any injury to LN. In terms of timing, do we know if Hibs we’re waiting to get a replacement no2 before a return was agreed has RS been named on bench tomorrow therefore making him no 2, has transfer window finished yet and no experienced number 2 come in? ?
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 19:05:40 GMT 1
We shouldn't even be considering him playing for the club again. If anything shows how far we have fallen, it's this. If we are going to find him another club, fair enough. Thomas out on loan, Schofield back in nets. Great way to fight a relegation battle. Fuck me rigid. I didn’t realise that you’d seen tomorrow’s starting line up? people need to take a second and think loanee returns to parent club after not playing a game, no surprise, regardless of any injury to LN. In terms of timing, do we know if Hibs we’re waiting to get a replacement no2 before a return was agreed has RS been named on bench tomorrow therefore making him no 2, has transfer window finished yet and no experienced number 2 come in? ? So many questions. And what a bizarre first post. If that is a first post. I have a theory about return posters who fail to use capital letters. Time will tell.
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Post by willo on Jan 27, 2023 19:12:03 GMT 1
We shouldn't even be considering him playing for the club again. If anything shows how far we have fallen, it's this. If we are going to find him another club, fair enough. Thomas out on loan, Schofield back in nets. Great way to fight a relegation battle. Fuck me rigid. I didn’t realise that you’d seen tomorrow’s starting line up? people need to take a second and think loanee returns to parent club after not playing a game, no surprise, regardless of any injury to LN. In terms of timing, do we know if Hibs we’re waiting to get a replacement no2 before a return was agreed has RS been named on bench tomorrow therefore making him no 2, has transfer window finished yet and no experienced number 2 come in? ? No new GK in today. You’d have to think (hope!) Bilo will be in goal tomorrow, probably Schofield bench? 🤞 Bilo stays fit and doesn’t get himself sent off.
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 27, 2023 19:13:36 GMT 1
Schofield was let down by the club. Any chance you could qualify that statement, my friend? He was a kid thrown in without any back up. When it started to go wrong Carlos had zero options but to carry on playing him. It was disgraceful imho.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 27, 2023 19:15:43 GMT 1
We shouldn't even be considering him playing for the club again. If anything shows how far we have fallen, it's this. If we are going to find him another club, fair enough. Thomas out on loan, Schofield back in nets. Great way to fight a relegation battle. Fuck me rigid. Just do not get what is happening at our club. Each week we sink to a new low. Personally, I’d use the word humiliating. And then we have the continuing policy of people thinking it’s acceptable to sign injured players!
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Post by willo on Jan 27, 2023 19:17:25 GMT 1
I think Schofield is so far away that (for those old enough to remember) when Kieran O’Regan went in goal all those years ago and put up a right show, I’d rather have the him of 30 years ago in before Schofield. There were collective groans going on all around me anytime the ball went near RS the last time he played for us. Don’t want to sound unfair but he is downright shocking and it must be nervy as hell for any defender playing in front of him.
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Post by araucaria on Jan 27, 2023 19:27:12 GMT 1
That first goal against Fulham will never not be funny. It's just ridiculous that he did what he did. The sheer panic to react like that highlights exactly why he shouldn't be anywhere near a starting 11 at this level. Hopefully with age he will start making better decisions and be a bit more composed. I do enjoy his angry little kicks at the ball whenever he concedes though. Neither of Fulham's first two goals should have counted. The first one was a corner, courtesy of Sorba's awful back-pass, it's a good yard over the line before the keeper chests it (and I know he made a total bollocks of it) and the second is offside. Although Schofield had a poor game, he wasn't as bad as the fucking linesman. The guy at the other end correctly chalked off Pearson's header in the early minutes for offside. If the linesmen were swapped we might have been 2-0 up instead of 2-1 down before Fulham finally scored a legitimate goal. Anyway we got revenge at Craven Cottage, including a dubious penalty.
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Jan 27, 2023 19:32:13 GMT 1
Schofield was let down by the club. He saved us from a very heavy defeat against Lincoln and even that game his kicking was poor. Everyone could see it. He is also dreadfully skinny for a keeper. Remember when Man U signed de gea and immediately they got him on a bulking up plan. I do wonder what they do on a daily basis at our club. Anyway, he’s still a kid in keeper years and could easily make a career out of it yet. But probably not at our club due to all the pros in the stands that will refuse to ever give the kid a chance Now is not the time to be giving players in any position "a chance"
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 27, 2023 19:35:27 GMT 1
That first goal against Fulham will never not be funny. It's just ridiculous that he did what he did. The sheer panic to react like that highlights exactly why he shouldn't be anywhere near a starting 11 at this level. Hopefully with age he will start making better decisions and be a bit more composed. I do enjoy his angry little kicks at the ball whenever he concedes though. Neither of Fulham's first two goals should have counted. The first one was a corner, courtesy of Sorba's awful back-pass, it's a good yard over the line before the keeper chests it (and I know he made a total bollocks of it) and the second is offside. Although Schofield had a poor game, he wasn't as bad as the fucking linesman. The guy at the other end correctly chalked off Pearson's header in the early minutes for offside. If the linesmen were swapped we might have been 2-0 up instead of 2-1 down before Fulham finally scored a legitimate goal. Anyway we got revenge at Craven Cottage, including a dubious penalty. Might have been like the Japanese goal in the world cup. From the angle we have it looks out but not all the ball is actually out. The lino will have been guessing either way given his position
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Post by stinkypete on Jan 27, 2023 19:41:35 GMT 1
According to some if you’re a Town fan and “one of our own” it gives you a free pass to be utterly shite! I’m a Town fan and would give 100% might take my boots down next week! Some saying it’s laughable folk apparently having a “meltdown” over Schofield returning, I find the excuses for him being shit more laughable and bordering on embarrassing surely some are on the wind up! Never EVER have I seen a goalkeeper end up in his own net on so many occasions! It’s ok to say somebody who has come through our academy isn’t good enough you won’t lose any “Deano” points!
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