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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 13:26:32 GMT 1
Oh shit! You're serious??
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jan 27, 2023 13:33:10 GMT 1
We might as well start our league 1 planning now if we intend to start schofield in any games. I doubt it but nothing would surprise me at this club anymore
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jan 27, 2023 13:33:21 GMT 1
To be fair Schofield may as well be sat on our bench rather than sat on Hibs'.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 27, 2023 13:33:35 GMT 1
Goal keeping??
Do you have to wait till you are of an age that 'pundits' believe is old enough to be a first team keeper?
Whilst waiting to be 'old enough' where do you get the experience of playing for your team in the division they are actually in?
If you are deemed old enough and good enough to be loaned to a team in the same division, should you not be either playing for or on the bench for your own team?
If Bilo is playing then we really could do with bolstering that decision and be prepared to back him and the team to just carry on??
Im more in the camp that has looked at him over a couple of games and says he looks like a goal keeper and acts like one. They all make saves but he has a confidence regarding other parts of his game that if backed by the club and fans and aided by a better defence than earlier in the season may well see him come through for us. We may have by May, two goal keepers we trust.?
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 27, 2023 13:42:13 GMT 1
Goal keeping?? Do you have to wait till you are of an age that 'pundits' believe is old enough to be a first team keeper? Whilst waiting to be 'old enough' where do you get the experience of playing for your team in the division they are actually in? If you are deemed old enough and good enough to be loaned to a team in the same division, should you not be either playing for or on the bench for your own team? If Bilo is playing then we really could do with bolstering that decision and be prepared to back him and the team to just carry on?? Im more in the camp that has looked at him over a couple of games and says he looks like a goal keeper and acts like one. They all make saves but he has a confidence regarding other parts of his game that if backed by the club and fans and aided by a better defence than earlier in the season may well see him come through for us. We may have by May, two goal keepers we trust.? Id be happy for Bilo to be playing. He does look like hes capable. The problem is if the results start going against us and he's all we have and his head goes down we end up in the position we had with Schofield. My main concern with Bilo is his inexperience. At Hull if Lee is on goals we see that game out, When the ball went out of play just as the 6 mins was up Lee would would be 30 yards from his goal bollocking the defence with the ref in his ear, instead of picking the ball up and getting on with the game........ its a big call not to bring an experienced keeper in for me.
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jan 27, 2023 13:43:37 GMT 1
Wonder which of the Hoyle disciples will be the first to defend this decision? Absolute fucking circus. What has Hoyle got to do with Schofield coming back from loan?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 27, 2023 13:44:43 GMT 1
All we need now is a mic and a stage and Huddersfield will have it's own comedy club 🤣
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 27, 2023 13:47:12 GMT 1
Wonder which of the Hoyle disciples will be the first to defend this decision? Absolute fucking circus. What has Hoyle got to do with Schofield coming back from loan? The fact that we've spent two weeks scraping round for a keeper but none will come for peanuts so we're now having to recall someone who should be nowhere near a championship side, let alone a relegation threatened one.
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Post by stinkypete on Jan 27, 2023 13:47:14 GMT 1
Wonder which of the Hoyle disciples will be the first to defend this decision? Absolute fucking circus. What has Hoyle got to do with Schofield coming back from loan? Well it suggests he’s not prepared to pay the going rate for a recognised goalkeeper! Awaits “chuck your money in” “Entitled” “Teddy’s out of pram” Responses from the Hoyle fanboys!
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Post by boooothy on Jan 27, 2023 13:51:31 GMT 1
Let’s not jump to conclusions. No club threatened with relegation would risk not getting a proper keeper for the rest of the season. It would be retarded and absolute false economy.
A bit like hiring a nobody of a manager or sending your best players out on loan. No one would be that dumb.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jan 27, 2023 13:55:38 GMT 1
Nowt unusual about Scofield being recalled. I don't think he's played a single game for Hibs, so maybe we're planning on sending him out elsewhere & if not, he might as well play in our B team as Hibs'
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Post by rugbyterrier on Jan 27, 2023 13:59:39 GMT 1
Fook me!! Shaggy's back I'd rather have Velma without her glasses.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jan 27, 2023 14:03:49 GMT 1
Nowt unusual about Scofield being recalled. I don't think he's played a single game for Hibs, so maybe we're planning on sending him out elsewhere & if not, he might as well play in our B team as Hibs' Except, we are now paying his wages, rather than Hibs?
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Post by 28901 on Jan 27, 2023 14:08:04 GMT 1
priority was to get a keeper in... good bloody girefI don't actually care anymore, I just sit here laughing to myself.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 27, 2023 14:08:34 GMT 1
What has Hoyle got to do with Schofield coming back from loan? Well it suggests he’s not prepared to pay the going rate for a recognised goalkeeper! Awaits “chuck your money in” “Entitled” “Teddy’s out of pram” Responses from the Hoyle fanboys! Don’t let Bromby off the hook either. Had one good transfer window in three years. If he can’t do better than this, why haven’t we just got a manager?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 27, 2023 14:10:28 GMT 1
Nowt unusual about Scofield being recalled. I don't think he's played a single game for Hibs, so maybe we're planning on sending him out elsewhere & if not, he might as well play in our B team as Hibs' Then why didn't they recall him at the start of the window instead of a few days before it closes? 🤔
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Post by boooothy on Jan 27, 2023 14:17:07 GMT 1
Well it suggests he’s not prepared to pay the going rate for a recognised goalkeeper! Awaits “chuck your money in” “Entitled” “Teddy’s out of pram” Responses from the Hoyle fanboys! Don’t let Bromby off the hook either. Had one good transfer window in three years. If he can’t do better than this, why haven’t we just got a manager? Has he had one good transfer window? Or did Carlos get a tune out of a few rejects
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 27, 2023 14:19:39 GMT 1
Goal keeping?? Do you have to wait till you are of an age that 'pundits' believe is old enough to be a first team keeper? Whilst waiting to be 'old enough' where do you get the experience of playing for your team in the division they are actually in? If you are deemed old enough and good enough to be loaned to a team in the same division, should you not be either playing for or on the bench for your own team? If Bilo is playing then we really could do with bolstering that decision and be prepared to back him and the team to just carry on?? Im more in the camp that has looked at him over a couple of games and says he looks like a goal keeper and acts like one. They all make saves but he has a confidence regarding other parts of his game that if backed by the club and fans and aided by a better defence than earlier in the season may well see him come through for us. We may have by May, two goal keepers we trust.? Id be happy for Bilo to be playing. He does look like hes capable. The problem is if the results start going against us and he's all we have and his head goes down we end up in the position we had with Schofield. My main concern with Bilo is his inexperience. At Hull if Lee is on goals we see that game out, When the ball went out of play just as the 6 mins was up Lee would would be 30 yards from his goal bollocking the defence with the ref in his ear, instead of picking the ball up and getting on with the game........ its a big call not to bring an experienced keeper in for me. Two things.. Bring in a keeper who fucks up at a good cost to us both on and off the pitch. Wont change anything. Playing Bilo and the support getting on his back should anything go badly for him wont change the decision or the current state of the ownership, recruitment, manager etc.. Maybe Im just fed up with the doom and gloom and worst scenario monkeys on here. I understand the point you make but having seen experienced keepers have a run of wobblies, Im hoping the better back 4/5 we have now is our saving grace of losing Nicholls, and Bilo comes through as capable and ready. Im going optimistic on this one..
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jan 27, 2023 14:20:58 GMT 1
What has Hoyle got to do with Schofield coming back from loan? The fact that we've spent two weeks scraping round for a keeper but none will come for peanuts so we're now having to recall someone who should be nowhere near a championship side, let alone a relegation threatened one. Hoyle has nothing to do with who we sign and when we sign them, Baldwin is at the wheel. Granted he'll have a budget to work to but it's upto Baldwin to manage that budget and choose the signings based on it. If we've spaffed all that budget on Knockaert etc that's Baldwin's decision.
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Post by runner76 on Jan 27, 2023 14:30:01 GMT 1
To be fair Schofield may as well be sat on our bench rather than sat on Hibs'. agree......simply as backup
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 27, 2023 14:31:01 GMT 1
Id be happy for Bilo to be playing. He does look like hes capable. The problem is if the results start going against us and he's all we have and his head goes down we end up in the position we had with Schofield. My main concern with Bilo is his inexperience. At Hull if Lee is on goals we see that game out, When the ball went out of play just as the 6 mins was up Lee would would be 30 yards from his goal bollocking the defence with the ref in his ear, instead of picking the ball up and getting on with the game........ its a big call not to bring an experienced keeper in for me. Two things.. Bring in a keeper who fucks up at a good cost to us both on and off the pitch. Wont change anything. Playing Bilo and the support getting on his back should anything go badly for him wont change the decision or the current state of the ownership, recruitment, manager etc.. Maybe Im just fed up with the doom and gloom and worst scenario monkeys on here. I understand the point you make but having seen experienced keepers have a run of wobblies, Im hoping the better back 4/5 we have now is our saving grace of losing Nicholls, and Bilo comes through as capable and ready. Im going optimistic on this one.. Yeah. The back line is certainly better than what shaggy had in front of him. Am I right in thinking if bilo gets injured we can call an emergency loan?
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 27, 2023 14:33:11 GMT 1
Bringing Schofield back makes sense.
1. He's not getting a game at Hibs, so whether he's here or loaned elsewhere there's nothing to be gained by him being stuck there. 2. We have an experienced alternative, should Bilo need taking out of the limelight. 3. It may help with our negotiations regarding bringing somebody else in - if we're seen to be less desperate, we're not as much over a barrel.
Although, on Point 2, we had experienced alternatives to Schofield, but they were Joel "The Hologram/Poppadom Hands" Pereira (genuinely the most inept professional goalkeeper I've ever seen) or that Canadian chap who couldn't even get on the bench ahead of him. I stand by my assertion that Schofield's confidence was shot by being forced to play in the absence of a competent alternative. Although Schofield is comfortably better than Poppadom Hands, we're effectively making the same mistake with Bilo/Chapman as we did with Ryan Schofield.
What it does shine a light on though is the lack of forward planning in the summer, for this eventuality. For me, you need 3 players for each position. A first choice, reliable cover/competition for that 1st choice and a third option that could either be a promising youngster or one at the opposite end of their playing career in a sort of player/coach role. Relying on Lee Nicholls always being available was always extraordinarily risky. No hindsight required.
We have until 11pm on Tuesday to get another keeper in. Because Schofield is unlikely to regain his pre-Watford form. Even if he does, he's unlikely to maintain it. The first mistake he makes is going to put that doubt in his head again. And that first mistake may well be on the first thing he has to do. Plus, he may well be blamed even if it's not a mistake per se. A downgrade on Nicholls was always likely, but this size of downgrade was not.
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 27, 2023 14:36:04 GMT 1
Two things.. Bring in a keeper who fucks up at a good cost to us both on and off the pitch. Wont change anything. Playing Bilo and the support getting on his back should anything go badly for him wont change the decision or the current state of the ownership, recruitment, manager etc.. Maybe Im just fed up with the doom and gloom and worst scenario monkeys on here. I understand the point you make but having seen experienced keepers have a run of wobblies, Im hoping the better back 4/5 we have now is our saving grace of losing Nicholls, and Bilo comes through as capable and ready. Im going optimistic on this one.. Yeah. The back line is certainly better than what shaggy had in front of him. (agreed)Am I right in thinking if bilo gets injured we can call an emergency loan?Yes. We still can as long as he doesn't start tomorrow. Which he probably (quite rightly TBF) will. Edit: The above does not apply whilst Schofield is available for selection.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 27, 2023 14:38:01 GMT 1
Two things.. Bring in a keeper who fucks up at a good cost to us both on and off the pitch. Wont change anything. Playing Bilo and the support getting on his back should anything go badly for him wont change the decision or the current state of the ownership, recruitment, manager etc.. Maybe Im just fed up with the doom and gloom and worst scenario monkeys on here. I understand the point you make but having seen experienced keepers have a run of wobblies, Im hoping the better back 4/5 we have now is our saving grace of losing Nicholls, and Bilo comes through as capable and ready. Im going optimistic on this one.. Yeah. The back line is certainly better than what shaggy had in front of him. Am I right in thinking if bilo gets injured we can call an emergency loan? Think so, they wont class the third keeper as being senior. But he wont get injured, keeping the optimism up😉 First job of our defence now, as it should always be, keep the ball as far away from our goal as possible for as long as possible? Might even be a good thing in the end?
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Post by 28901 on Jan 27, 2023 14:40:39 GMT 1
Bringing Schofield back makes sense. 1. He's not getting a game at Hibs, so whether he's here or loaned elsewhere there's nothing to be gained by him being stuck there. 2. We have an experienced alternative, should Bilo need taking out of the limelight.3. It may help with our negotiations regarding bringing somebody else in - if we're seen to be less desperate, we're not as much over a barrel. Although, on Point 2, we had experienced alternatives to Schofield, but they were Joel "The Hologram/Poppadom Hands" Pereira (genuinely the most inept professional goalkeeper I've ever seen) or that Canadian chap who couldn't even get on the bench ahead of him. I stand by my assertion that Schofield's confidence was shot by being forced to play in the absence of a competent alternative. Although Schofield is comfortably better than Poppadom Hands, we're effectively making the same mistake with Bilo/Chapman as we did with Ryan Schofield. What it does shine a light on though is the lack of forward planning in the summer, for this eventuality. For me, you need 3 players for each position. A first choice, reliable cover/competition for that 1st choice and a third option that could either be a promising youngster or one at the opposite end of their playing career in a sort of player/coach role. Relying on Lee Nicholls always being available was always extraordinarily risky. No hindsight required. We have until 11pm on Tuesday to get another keeper in. Because Schofield is unlikely to regain his pre-Watford form. Even if he does, he's unlikely to maintain it. The first mistake he makes is going to put that doubt in his head again. And that first mistake may well be on the first thing he has to do. Plus, he may well be blamed even if it's not a mistake per se. A downgrade on Nicholls was always likely, but this size of downgrade was not. Who is this experienced alternative if Bilo needs taking out of the limelight?
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Post by space hardware on Jan 27, 2023 14:42:04 GMT 1
Bringing Schofield back makes sense. 1. He's not getting a game at Hibs, so whether he's here or loaned elsewhere there's nothing to be gained by him being stuck there. 2. We have an experienced alternative, should Bilo need taking out of the limelight.3. It may help with our negotiations regarding bringing somebody else in - if we're seen to be less desperate, we're not as much over a barrel. Although, on Point 2, we had experienced alternatives to Schofield, but they were Joel "The Hologram/Poppadom Hands" Pereira (genuinely the most inept professional goalkeeper I've ever seen) or that Canadian chap who couldn't even get on the bench ahead of him. I stand by my assertion that Schofield's confidence was shot by being forced to play in the absence of a competent alternative. Although Schofield is comfortably better than Poppadom Hands, we're effectively making the same mistake with Bilo/Chapman as we did with Ryan Schofield. What it does shine a light on though is the lack of forward planning in the summer, for this eventuality. For me, you need 3 players for each position. A first choice, reliable cover/competition for that 1st choice and a third option that could either be a promising youngster or one at the opposite end of their playing career in a sort of player/coach role. Relying on Lee Nicholls always being available was always extraordinarily risky. No hindsight required. We have until 11pm on Tuesday to get another keeper in. Because Schofield is unlikely to regain his pre-Watford form. Even if he does, he's unlikely to maintain it. The first mistake he makes is going to put that doubt in his head again. And that first mistake may well be on the first thing he has to do. Plus, he may well be blamed even if it's not a mistake per se. A downgrade on Nicholls was always likely, but this size of downgrade was not. Who is this experienced alternative if Bilo needs taking out of the limelight? Schofield, presumably. Laughable.
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 27, 2023 14:42:29 GMT 1
IIRC we looked elsewhere because Newcastle weren't willing to release Darlow until towards the end of the window.
If we're not going all in to hijack his move to Hull (and that of Toffolo) we're nuts.
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 27, 2023 14:44:35 GMT 1
Bringing Schofield back makes sense. 1. He's not getting a game at Hibs, so whether he's here or loaned elsewhere there's nothing to be gained by him being stuck there. 2. We have an experienced alternative, should Bilo need taking out of the limelight.3. It may help with our negotiations regarding bringing somebody else in - if we're seen to be less desperate, we're not as much over a barrel. Although, on Point 2, we had experienced alternatives to Schofield, but they were Joel "The Hologram/Poppadom Hands" Pereira (genuinely the most inept professional goalkeeper I've ever seen) or that Canadian chap who couldn't even get on the bench ahead of him. I stand by my assertion that Schofield's confidence was shot by being forced to play in the absence of a competent alternative. Although Schofield is comfortably better than Poppadom Hands, we're effectively making the same mistake with Bilo/Chapman as we did with Ryan Schofield. What it does shine a light on though is the lack of forward planning in the summer, for this eventuality. For me, you need 3 players for each position. A first choice, reliable cover/competition for that 1st choice and a third option that could either be a promising youngster or one at the opposite end of their playing career in a sort of player/coach role. Relying on Lee Nicholls always being available was always extraordinarily risky. No hindsight required. We have until 11pm on Tuesday to get another keeper in. Because Schofield is unlikely to regain his pre-Watford form. Even if he does, he's unlikely to maintain it. The first mistake he makes is going to put that doubt in his head again. And that first mistake may well be on the first thing he has to do. Plus, he may well be blamed even if it's not a mistake per se. A downgrade on Nicholls was always likely, but this size of downgrade was not. Who is this experienced alternative if Bilo needs taking out of the limelight? Schofield. As in, he's played more games than Bilo as opposed to being objectively an experienced option.
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Post by H7 on Jan 27, 2023 15:04:43 GMT 1
Let’s not jump to conclusions. No club threatened with relegation would risk not getting a proper keeper for the rest of the season. It would be retarded and absolute false economy. A bit like hiring a nobody of a manager or sending your best players out on loan. No one would be that dumb. This sums it up doesn't it. Absolute comedy show.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 27, 2023 15:18:02 GMT 1
The really sad thing for me is, Schofield coming back is he will probs start tomorrow knowing Town currently. They keep this rubbish up that he is only such an age , this and that and the other. When will Bromby get it into his thick skull, Schofield will NEVER ever be good enough, to be Huddersfield Town first choice keeper unless we are relegated to a pub division, its like his obession with Scott High , he says he will catpain Town one day again WHEN Bromby? Its like i was Academy manager when they came through, therefore they will make it god dam it. Why can Town not just admit they made a mistake bringing Schofield through in the first place.If Schofield goes straight in , in front of Bilo then the club is a big joke , if they think he can even sit on the bench, then why has not not been all season? he is 23 years old now he has never and will never be good enough .
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