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Post by Tinpot on Jan 29, 2023 21:39:55 GMT 1
Honestly, I don't have a good answer. If we brought in a new manager now, they've only got 50 hours and 20 minutes to assess the squad, identify weaknesses and sort them in the transfer market. And then they know that whether they stay up or not they'll be out at the end of the season.
Who would take that job? How much would we have to pay them to take on a task that would doubtless make their CV look worse? And if we pay a new manager a fuck-ton of money, what does that do to next year's budget?
The time to bin him off was at interview. The second time to bin him off was just before the world cup. Now, I think it's too late for changes to have a long term positive effect. We've laid out cards out and we just have to hope that Buzz can turn it around sufficiently that we can stay up.
On the positive side, I've never been to Fleetwood before....
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 29, 2023 21:43:52 GMT 1
Even previously successful managers are a gamble. Chris Wilder at Boro Chris Hughton at Twigs Or we could go for a "name". Like Kolo Toure. I seem to remember a lot of anger when we sacked Danny Cowley and appointed the Leeds United U23 coach Carlos Corberan in his place. Not from me though, cockney twats |
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Post by boooothy on Jan 29, 2023 21:44:46 GMT 1
Let’s just win on Saturday. 7 points from the next 3 game
s is not ridiculous.
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Post by shawsie on Jan 29, 2023 21:54:25 GMT 1
Let’s just win on Saturday. 7 points from the next 3 game s is not ridiculous. It is if you saw yesterday. |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 29, 2023 21:56:26 GMT 1
Let’s just win on Saturday. 7 points from the next 3 game s is not ridiculous. On what basis could we see 7 points from the next 3? I will go for 2. 2 draws V QPR and Wigan. |
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Post by k1man999 on Jan 29, 2023 21:56:41 GMT 1
Even previously successful managers are a gamble. Chris Wilder at Boro Chris Hughton at Twigs Or we could go for a "name". Like Kolo Toure. I seem to remember a lot of anger when we sacked Danny Cowley and appointed the Leeds United U23 coach Carlos Corberan in his place. All managers are gambles and some just don't work proven or not However known or not you expect some sort of tactical ability some sort of plan Style etc and you sort of forgive except what's happening at that point as you can see yes see what your trying but we are not good enough etc. However this fraud I'm Not seeing or hearing anything except look at me blah blah. And no I'm not throwing toys out the pram I've said from the start this squad should be doing better than it is Yes not top 6 CC pulled a miracle but nowhere near bottom 3. |
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Post by robinvar on Jan 29, 2023 21:56:48 GMT 1
[/quote]Jesus wept , even John Grisham couldn’t make this rubbish up, can correct one issue, Hodgkinson bought Hoyles house on the Algarve, my house is on the Atlantic coast so neither are my neighbour. “ Managed accounts” , fantasy island stuff 😂😂😂[/quote]
Apologies, just frustrated with Town position at the moment and wish we could click our fingers and resolve. Any info such as you've posted is always welcome. I desperately want us to stay up and assume whatever the situation will be resolved then.
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Post by softboy on Jan 29, 2023 22:11:42 GMT 1
How on earth did Hogg get a 5 yesterday. He was awful. As for Liston I’d give him 3 at Hull and 3 yesterday at best. What a waste of loan money. And yes I saw both games.
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Post by softboy on Jan 29, 2023 22:12:46 GMT 1
Lowton I meant
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Post by waggers on Jan 29, 2023 22:21:02 GMT 1
Honestly, I don't have a good answer. If we brought in a new manager now, they've only got 50 hours and 20 minutes to assess the squad, identify weaknesses and sort them in the transfer market. And then they know that whether they stay up or not they'll be out at the end of the season. Who would take that job? How much would we have to pay them to take on a task that would doubtless make their CV look worse? And if we pay a new manager a fuck-ton of money, what does that do to next year's budget? The time to bin him off was at interview. The second time to bin him off was just before the world cup. Now, I think it's too late for changes to have a long term positive effect. We've laid out cards out and we just have to hope that Buzz can turn it around sufficiently that we can stay up. On the positive side, I've never been to Fleetwood before.... Think you're right most know and accept we are in the shit and MF is clearly a shocking appointment, but he won't be getting sacked this season. Let's just hope we are the 4th shittest team this year. Try and survive and then surely the errors that have been made can't be ignored anymore. |
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Post by willo on Jan 29, 2023 22:31:45 GMT 1
Honestly, I don't have a good answer. If we brought in a new manager now, they've only got 50 hours and 20 minutes to assess the squad, identify weaknesses and sort them in the transfer market. And then they know that whether they stay up or not they'll be out at the end of the season. Who would take that job? How much would we have to pay them to take on a task that would doubtless make their CV look worse? And if we pay a new manager a fuck-ton of money, what does that do to next year's budget? The time to bin him off was at interview. The second time to bin him off was just before the world cup. Now, I think it's too late for changes to have a long term positive effect. We've laid out cards out and we just have to hope that Buzz can turn it around sufficiently that we can stay up. On the positive side, I've never been to Fleetwood before.... I know of one bloke that likes a challenge and will happily take a job for 6 months, just depends if he can be coaxed out of retirement. You make it worth his while and I wouldn’t bet against it. What price relegation to the club? |
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Post by willo on Jan 29, 2023 22:37:47 GMT 1
Honestly, I don't have a good answer. If we brought in a new manager now, they've only got 50 hours and 20 minutes to assess the squad, identify weaknesses and sort them in the transfer market. And then they know that whether they stay up or not they'll be out at the end of the season. Who would take that job? How much would we have to pay them to take on a task that would doubtless make their CV look worse? And if we pay a new manager a fuck-ton of money, what does that do to next year's budget? The time to bin him off was at interview. The second time to bin him off was just before the world cup. Now, I think it's too late for changes to have a long term positive effect. We've laid out cards out and we just have to hope that Buzz can turn it around sufficiently that we can stay up. On the positive side, I've never been to Fleetwood before.... Think you're right most know and accept we are in the shit and MF is clearly a shocking appointment, but he won't be getting sacked this season. Let's just hope we are the 4th shittest team this year. Try and survive and then surely the errors that have been made can't be ignored anymore. I keep seeing “well let’s give him the QPR game and see where we after that”. That’s just a gamble and another game gone. Never mind next Saturday and hoping the errors of this season aren’t made again next time out, he should be out the door first thing tomorrow morning. No excuses. I can’t see how we cannot afford to not get rid, I just can’t. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 29, 2023 22:42:00 GMT 1
Think you're right most know and accept we are in the shit and MF is clearly a shocking appointment, but he won't be getting sacked this season. Let's just hope we are the 4th shittest team this year. Try and survive and then surely the errors that have been made can't be ignored anymore. I keep seeing “well let’s give him the QPR game and see where we after that”. That’s just a gamble and another game gone. Never mind next Saturday and hoping the errors of this season aren’t made again next time out, he should be out the door first thing tomorrow morning. No excuses. I can’t see how we cannot afford to not get rid, I just can’t. He should've been out of the door at 5pm on Saturday |
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Post by willo on Jan 29, 2023 22:43:01 GMT 1
Even previously successful managers are a gamble. Chris Wilder at Boro Chris Hughton at Twigs Or we could go for a "name". Like Kolo Toure. I seem to remember a lot of anger when we sacked Danny Cowley and appointed the Leeds United U23 coach Carlos Corberan in his place. I don’t remember much anger but there was some confusion as to why they’d been relieved of their duties after doing what they’d been employed to do and keeping us up. Obviously it came out there’d been some shenanigans and probably rightly so been sent packing. |
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Post by space hardware on Jan 29, 2023 22:43:04 GMT 1
Known Gerry most of my life. Beat the Chesties twice with him in charge. I think the only game he lost was the last one before Ternant took over. He joked "I lost one game and they've replaced me". He lost a couple to be fair to him, but over three spells he managed 17 games and only lost three of them. One of them was against Port Vale in the F.A. Cup after Ternent had got the bullet. He would drop all the older players and play all the kids and somehow got results with them. That team he picked for the Port Vale cup tie was like living an actual fever dream. Didn't he pick Joe Skarz as a sweeper? 😂😂 |
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Post by hthp on Jan 29, 2023 22:48:35 GMT 1
He lost a couple to be fair to him, but over three spells he managed 17 games and only lost three of them. One of them was against Port Vale in the F.A. Cup after Ternent had got the bullet. He would drop all the older players and play all the kids and somehow got results with them. That team he picked for the Port Vale cup tie was like living an actual fever dream. Didn't he pick Joe Skarz as a sweeper? 😂😂 You might be right there. We lost 3-2 in the last couple of minutes. |
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Post by willo on Jan 29, 2023 22:53:44 GMT 1
I keep seeing “well let’s give him the QPR game and see where we after that”. That’s just a gamble and another game gone. Never mind next Saturday and hoping the errors of this season aren’t made again next time out, he should be out the door first thing tomorrow morning. No excuses. I can’t see how we cannot afford to not get rid, I just can’t. He should've been out of the door at 5pm on Saturday The Aberdeen Chairman showed the way when he fired Jim Goodwin immediately after yesterday’s big defeat. The Town board should have shown some guts and done exactly the same with our guy porroh. We can only hope they’ve seen the reaction on social media these last 24 hours and take decisive action in the morning. |
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Post by space hardware on Jan 29, 2023 22:56:09 GMT 1
That team he picked for the Port Vale cup tie was like living an actual fever dream. Didn't he pick Joe Skarz as a sweeper? 😂😂 You might be right there. We lost 3-2 in the last couple of minutes. 3-4 |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Jan 29, 2023 23:02:52 GMT 1
I am FIRMLY in the Fotheringham out camp. However it is interesting to note over the last 5 games we've done better than
Watford
Bristol City
Preston
Rotherham
Coventry
Reading
Stoke
Blackburn
Cardiff
Blackpool
Wigan
QPR
Birmingham
I have absolutely no idea how but on PAPER we're not doing that badly. Especially if you take into account losing last kick of the game. You can see why the board might not want to spend more money getting rid if he keeps us up.
However, I firmly we believe we would be doing much better with an experienced manager with the slightest bit of tactical nouse. I do believe MF would keep us up, but he will also destroy and good will, SC sales and general enthusiasm for the club.
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Post by hthp on Jan 29, 2023 23:07:22 GMT 1
You might be right there. We lost 3-2 in the last couple of minutes. 3-4 Yes, that's right! |
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Post by k1man999 on Jan 29, 2023 23:08:22 GMT 1
How on earth did Hogg get a 5 yesterday. He was awful. As for Liston I’d give him 3 at Hull and 3 yesterday at best. What a waste of loan money. And yes I saw both games. He is not a wing back he is a Rb played in a back four most his career and a relatively defensive one at that Unfortunately this clown thinks otherwise |
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Post by softboy on Jan 29, 2023 23:17:58 GMT 1
Wing Back or Left Back his defending has been poor in both the games he has played.
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Tinpot
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 29, 2023 23:31:39 GMT 1
How on earth did Hogg get a 5 yesterday. He was awful. As for Liston I’d give him 3 at Hull and 3 yesterday at best. What a waste of loan money. And yes I saw both games. We knew what you meant, Sonny. |
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Post by boooothy on Jan 30, 2023 0:02:24 GMT 1
Let’s just win on Saturday. 7 points from the next 3 game s is not ridiculous. On what basis could we see 7 points from the next 3? I will go for 2. 2 draws V QPR and Wigan. Unfortunately my only reasoning is that the next 3 teams are all terrible |
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Post by boooothy on Jan 30, 2023 0:04:02 GMT 1
Let’s just win on Saturday. 7 points from the next 3 game s is not ridiculous. It is if you saw yesterday. We’re capable of clean sheets in all 3 games |
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Post by Galpharmer on Jan 30, 2023 0:06:42 GMT 1
Let’s just win on Saturday. 7 points from the next 3 game s is not ridiculous. They’d actually have to try and win a game. That’s miles away. |
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Post by waggers on Jan 30, 2023 1:00:10 GMT 1
Think you're right most know and accept we are in the shit and MF is clearly a shocking appointment, but he won't be getting sacked this season. Let's just hope we are the 4th shittest team this year. Try and survive and then surely the errors that have been made can't be ignored anymore. I keep seeing “well let’s give him the QPR game and see where we after that”. That’s just a gamble and another game gone. Never mind next Saturday and hoping the errors of this season aren’t made again next time out, he should be out the door first thing tomorrow morning. No excuses. I can’t see how we cannot afford to not get rid, I just can’t. I completely agree he should be gone, shouldn't have been given the gig in the first place more importantly. I just seriously doubt he will be sacked so my only hope is we somehow manage to cling onto this division. |
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Post by shawsie on Jan 30, 2023 7:54:28 GMT 1
It is if you saw yesterday. We’re capable of clean sheets in all 3 games So 3 draws then?! We barely ever look like scoring a goal right now......and sat never looked like it. You cant keep relying on faultless defending to eke out a draw - we are in a mess and rab hasnt a clue how to turn it round. Im resigned to league 1 after sat - hope im wrong but cant see where we put a 3 or 4 game winning run together to lift us out given we are playing catch up big time. Most depressing on sat was the acceptance of we are crap on and off the pitch. No fight on it and not even anger off it anymore. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 30, 2023 7:55:15 GMT 1
I keep seeing “well let’s give him the QPR game and see where we after that”. That’s just a gamble and another game gone. Never mind next Saturday and hoping the errors of this season aren’t made again next time out, he should be out the door first thing tomorrow morning. No excuses. I can’t see how we cannot afford to not get rid, I just can’t. I completely agree he should be gone, shouldn't have been given the gig in the first place more importantly. I just seriously doubt he will be sacked so my only hope is we somehow manage to cling onto this division. If we do, then what, do we sack him after the final game? Do we let him crack on with next season? I suspect if there is a takeover he'll be jettisoned anyway. |
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Post by runner76 on Jan 30, 2023 9:59:37 GMT 1
Minimum I’ve been saying for a while is a win/draw/loss over three games until end season. By that token minimum 4 points needed over next three games. I can see us getting exactly that.
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