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Post by Junior & Onuora on Feb 9, 2023 13:36:54 GMT 1
Technically, Pep was never an assistant. He went straight to managing the B Team and was then given the top job. He was never a number 2. Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan both were, though. Think they might have won a trophy or two between them. Don't remember them two managing Town. 1) Wasn't replying to you. 2) Hardly an enormous sample size to back up your hypothesis. Excluding obvious caretaker roles, how many full-time Town managers were the No.2 to the previous manager?
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Post by rockwall on Feb 9, 2023 13:37:37 GMT 1
Thing is if we have been knocked back by those we wanted what can we do? In 3 games time we might have a nice cushion away from the relegation places and that first choice might then be interested. Its obvious nobody wants the gig right now as we are languishing third bottom with a takeover on the horizon. The main thing was getting rid of that plant pot which we have. Think about it logically. If they don't want us now, why should we want them when it suits?
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Post by mosher on Feb 9, 2023 13:40:20 GMT 1
Ideally a cross between Sralex, Shanks, Herr Wagner and Herbert.
But as gene-splicing and growth acceleration are still in their infancy, I've voted Wilder.
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Post by Lovechops on Feb 9, 2023 13:40:43 GMT 1
No doubt the majority will lap it up because he's a Hefele type character. Moan like fuck when we appoint two rookie managers in a row but then be absolutely buzzing when we appoint a third one, just because he's a nice guy. Appointing assistant managers as the team manager never fucking works. I mean apart from Pep at Barca but I do appreciate your point! And Arteta at Arsenal 😂🤣😂🤣
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Post by savilerowtownfan on Feb 9, 2023 13:41:06 GMT 1
Narcis for minimum 3 matches That to me means if they have been approached Wilder and Warnock have turned us down. Good friend on the Board at Barnsley. Tried hard to get Warnock to try save them last season but could not meet his financial demands. Guess that will be same with Dean.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Feb 9, 2023 13:41:50 GMT 1
I’m surprised so many people think that Wilder will risk his already fading reputation further by taking over this PoS. Once we’re sold, perhaps yes, can’t see anyone with a good pedigree touching us in the meantime.
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Post by townrwe on Feb 9, 2023 13:46:06 GMT 1
At least they are fit this time.....
Strange on for me, does well next 3 games but doesn't want the job? Or does he finish the season? New man under pressure to keep up performances.
Or doesn't do well next 3, the season is over so may as well accept relegation and sell the club as a league 1 club and keep him as caretaker until then.
At no point does it make sense to appoint someone in 3 games time.
Good luck chico. The will of the fans is behind you and hopefully you grab the opportunity and keep us up.
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Post by hthp on Feb 9, 2023 13:47:43 GMT 1
Don't remember them two managing Town. 1) Wasn't replying to you. 2) Hardly an enormous sample size to back up your hypothesis. Excluding obvious caretaker roles, how many full-time Town managers were the No.2 to the previous manager? Jack Chaplin was trainer, he took over in 1926. Managed two runners-up finishes in Division One and an F.A. Cup Final. Reverted to previous role in 1929. Ted Magner was the coach to Clem Stephenson, he took over in 1942. Left in 1943. Bill Shankly was Andy Beattie's assistant manager, he took over in 1956 and managed three mid-table Second Division finishes. Eddie Boot was Shankly's chief coach, he took over in 1960 and after a mediocre spell, he resigned at half-time during a match in 1964. Ian Greaves was Tom Johnston's chief coach and he replaced Johnston in 1968. Led us to promotion in 1970 and then two relegations in 1972 and 1973. Left in 1974 after failing to get out of Division Three. First team coach John Haselden replaced Tom Johnston in April 1977 but was demoted in September 1977 after failing to win any league games. We were 23rd in the Division Four when he was demoted. First team coach Mick Buxton replaced Tom Johnston in September 1978, initially as caretaker manager and then full-time in October 1978. The only man to achieve two promotions at Huddesrfield Town, winning Division Four in 1980 and then promotion from Division Three in 1983. Chief scout/youth coach Steve Smith replaced Mick Buxton in 1986 as caretaker manager, he was unbeaten in four and got the job full-time. We almost got relegated but stayed up in the last game of the season. He resigned 10 games into the 1987-88 season as we'd failed to win a match. Assistant manager Eoin Hand replaced Malcolm Macdonald at the end of the 1987-88 season, he managed three mid-table finishes in Division Three before he was sacked during 1991-92 after dropping out of the play-offs. Eoin Hand's assistant Ian Ross replaced Hand and led Town to the play-offs, we lost to Peterborough in the semi-finals. A very poor 1992-93 season, where we spent almost the whole season in the drop zone, was only rescued by Mick Buxton's return where he managed 12 wins in the last 16 matches. Ross left at the end of that season. Reserve team coach Lou Macari replaced Steve Bruce in October 2000, we were relegated at the end of 2000-01 but he got us into the Division Two play-offs in 2001-02 before being sacked. Assistant head coach Danny Schofield replaced Carlos Corberan in July 2022 but was sacked in September 2022 after just 69 days, and one win in nine matches. He's the shortest serving manager in our history.
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Post by Dan on Feb 9, 2023 13:51:16 GMT 1
Either: Warnock - just to watch saintlyterrier implode Cowley - just to watch porrohman implode Chicho - just to watch hthp implode In all seriousness, let's just give it to Wilder. Hoping there's a reason he's just turned down Aberdeen, and maybe Baldwin had given him a nudge. Seems like my 3rd option is coming to fruition
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Feb 9, 2023 13:51:50 GMT 1
Pelach has brought in his own choice as number two. That says something.
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Post by hthp on Feb 9, 2023 13:57:28 GMT 1
Pelach has brought in his own choice as number two. That says something.It certainly does.
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Post by 28901 on Feb 9, 2023 13:58:53 GMT 1
Surely we have been sounding managers out for weeks given the likelihood MF was eventually going to get the boot. I would be amazed if it was only yesterday that we started making contact but this is Town we're talking about. We should have had someone ready to walk straight in the minute we announced MF was gone How far we have fallen. I remember Wagner being announced the very next day after Powell was sacked. But that's when we seemed to have a plan, and not just lurch from one crisis to the other. I genuinely think the only decided to sack Fotheringham after Blackpool, ie yesterday. If we had hung on he would still be here. Probably more because of that veiled criritcism about being the only one prepared o face the media than the shitshow we were watching.
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 9, 2023 14:00:03 GMT 1
Pelach has brought in his own choice as number two. That says something. On a rolling contract, probably a week to week one. It would say a lot more if they'd given him a contract until the summer. Weve just lost 2 coaches in Fotheringham and Miller so are short of numbers in the coaching set up. Pelach might be interim manager for a game or two or 3 games but if he has a mate who can come in short term to fill that void in coaching numbers for a short while then why not? I dont think it necessarily means theres any intention to offer him the job until the summer.
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Post by chelmsfordterrier on Feb 9, 2023 14:00:57 GMT 1
May not be everybody’s first choice, wouldn’t have been mine. But he knows the club (under more successful times!) he obviously has the respect of players and staff. From his interview last time he is far more interesting and eloquent than Buzz so yes maybe not exactly who everybody wanted but is he an improvement on Schofield and Buzz…almost certainly.
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Post by nicovaesen on Feb 9, 2023 14:01:01 GMT 1
Another member of staff fondly thought of to be the next to be thrown under the ever derailing train that is this football club at the moment. Can’t wait to see the shit he’s going to get if things do not improve dramatically.
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Post by hthp on Feb 9, 2023 14:02:58 GMT 1
Another member of staff fondly thought of to be the next to be thrown under the ever derailing train that is this football club at the moment. Can’t wait to see the shit he’s going to get if things do not improve dramatically. It's only fair that he's held up to the same scrutiny as Danny Schofield and Mark Fotheringham were.
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Post by nicovaesen on Feb 9, 2023 14:04:51 GMT 1
Didn’t he intentionally take himself out of the running for the job? Why’s he changed his mind all of a sudden?
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Post by 4 pts on Feb 9, 2023 14:06:19 GMT 1
Reading between the lines it's while they 'make other enquiries' - but I think we've already been knocked back - so it leaves the door open for Narcis to do the job til the end of the season. Is it Wilder that’s knocked us back? If we have enquired I reckon it will be his wage that is the stumbling block. I remember reading this when he left Sheff U and also the boro fans saying he was paid over £1.5m when he was sacked by Gibson Sheff U
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Post by rockwall on Feb 9, 2023 14:07:50 GMT 1
Didn’t he intentionally take himself out of the running for the job? Why’s he changed his mind all of a sudden? He hasn't? He said last time he didn't want the job permanently. He is only interim.
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Post by 28901 on Feb 9, 2023 14:08:09 GMT 1
1) Wasn't replying to you. 2) Hardly an enormous sample size to back up your hypothesis. Excluding obvious caretaker roles, how many full-time Town managers were the No.2 to the previous manager? Jack Chaplin was trainer, he took over in 1926. Managed two runners-up finishes in Division One and an F.A. Cup Final. Reverted to previous role in 1929. Ted Magner was the coach to Clem Stephenson, he took over in 1942. Left in 1943. Bill Shankly was Andy Beattie's assistant manager, he took over in 1956 and managed three mid-table Second Division finishes. Eddie Boot was Shankly's chief coach, he took over in 1960 and after a mediocre spell, he resigned at half-time during a match in 1964. Ian Greaves was Tom Johnston's chief coach and he replaced Johnston in 1968. Led us to promotion in 1970 and then two relegations in 1972 and 1973. Left in 1974 after failing to get out of Division Three. First team coach John Haselden replaced Tom Johnston in April 1977 but was demoted in September 1977 after failing to win any league games. We were 23rd in the Division Four when he was demoted. First team coach Mick Buxton replaced Tom Johnston in September 1978, initially as caretaker manager and then full-time in October 1978. The only man to achieve two promotions at Huddesrfield Town, winning Division Four in 1980 and then promotion from Division Three in 1983. Chief scout/youth coach Steve Smith replaced Mick Buxton in 1986 as caretaker manager, he was unbeaten in four and got the job full-time. We almost got relegated but stayed up in the last game of the season. He resigned 10 games into the 1987-88 season as we'd failed to win a match. Assistant manager Eoin Hand replaced Malcolm Macdonald at the end of the 1987-88 season, he managed three mid-table finishes in Division Three before he was sacked during 1991-92 after dropping out of the play-offs. Eoin Hand's assistant Ian Ross replaced Hand and led Town to the play-offs, we lost to Peterborough in the semi-finals. A very poor 1992-93 season, where we spent almost the whole season in the drop zone, was only rescued by Mick Buxton's return where he managed 12 wins in the last 16 matches. Ross left at the end of that season. Reserve team coach Lou Macari replaced Steve Bruce in October 2000, we were relegated at the end of 2000-01 but he got us into the Division Two play-offs in 2001-02 before being sacked. Assistant head coach Danny Schofield replaced Carlos Corberan in July 2022 but was sacked in September 2022 after just 69 days, and one win in nine matches. He's the shortest serving manager in our history. Buxton it is then.
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Post by 28901 on Feb 9, 2023 14:12:22 GMT 1
Sadly I missed that one game against Cardiff. Its a shame because apparently we played like Brazil in 1970.
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Post by boooothy on Feb 9, 2023 14:15:09 GMT 1
The players clearly didn’t respect or want Buzz. I’d guess that all came out again in the dressing room after the Blackpool game. It’s down to Hogg and co now, they obviously thought they knew better than Fozza and they need to go prove it now. Chicho won’t be reinventing anything just encouraging them and keeping them onside.
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Post by hthp on Feb 9, 2023 14:15:44 GMT 1
Sadly I missed that one game against Cardiff. Its a shame because apparently we played like Brazil in 1970. It was better than that.
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Post by morrisraspass on Feb 9, 2023 14:16:22 GMT 1
I was in the anyone but Fothers camp so Narcis is an immediate tick.
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Post by Moooooy on Feb 9, 2023 14:27:12 GMT 1
I don’t get this 3 game thing. Just give it him until the end of the season if that’s the case. If we lose those 3 then we’re fucked so there’s not point in getting rid, and if we do well he’ll be given till the end of the season anyway.
We need results instantly so I wish him the best of luck, he’s going to need it.
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Post by basil on Feb 9, 2023 14:29:34 GMT 1
Didn’t he intentionally take himself out of the running for the job? Why’s he changed his mind all of a sudden? He was a bit dropped on last time. He's probably been stewing it over and decided that actually it's a challenge that he's capable of successfully taking on and he now wants to give it a go. He's certainly had a grounding in how not to do it.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Feb 9, 2023 14:32:32 GMT 1
I don’t get this 3 game thing. Just give it him until the end of the season if that’s the case. If we lose those 3 then we’re fucked so there’s not point in getting rid, and if we do well he’ll be given till the end of the season anyway. We need results instantly so I wish him the best of luck, he’s going to need it. It's probably because there's 3 games in the next week. In fact there's 3 huge games in the next week. If nothing is imminent then it makes sense to give some 'clarity'😉.
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Post by runner76 on Feb 9, 2023 14:35:49 GMT 1
I don’t get this 3 game thing. Just give it him until the end of the season if that’s the case. If we lose those 3 then we’re fucked so there’s not point in getting rid, and if we do well he’ll be given till the end of the season anyway. We need results instantly so I wish him the best of luck, he’s going to need it. With his knowledge of the squad he’s as likely as anyone to do as well as possible over the next three…..if indeed he is there for the next three…..
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Feb 9, 2023 14:44:39 GMT 1
No surprise if talks of knock backs are true but Town should stay up anyway, regardless.
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Feb 9, 2023 14:59:21 GMT 1
Honestly I despair with this club.
So now a new manager will have a maximum of 14 games to save us. With a fixture list from hell after the next 3. Brilliant work town. Clowns
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