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Post by Tinpot on Feb 9, 2023 17:18:31 GMT 1
Anyone notice how Boro shot up the table as soon as Wilder left? Looking at the voting it would appear that very few did notice. Anyone notice how Wagner wasn't great at either of his last 2 clubs? Or how Mick Buxton was poor at Sunderland? The guy who won the league with Leicester underachieved at Chelsea. Speaking of Chelsea, Graham Potter isn't exactly pulling up trees there. Unai Emery was great at Villareal, dreadful at Arsenal. Jos Lukuhay had an outstanding record in Germany - ask Wendies fans what they thought of him.... etc.
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Post by 28901 on Feb 9, 2023 17:23:44 GMT 1
He had a decent Championship squad in League One though. And, somewhat weirdly, if he done as expected his record would have been worse because he would have had to play in the championship instead of another promotion chasing season in League One. His good points return is a result of his failure.
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Post by hthp on Feb 9, 2023 17:26:08 GMT 1
He had a decent Championship squad in League One though. And, somewhat weirdly, if he done has expected his record would have been worse because he would have had to play in the championship instead of another promotion chasing season in League One. His good points return is a result of his failure. Exactly. Look at the records of Ian Greaves and David Wagner, they look average on paper.
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Post by townarentbest on Feb 9, 2023 17:31:59 GMT 1
where has this 3 week thing come from ? Someone mis-reading "3 matches minimum". And/or just putting a reasonable less panicky spin onto things and turning it into "2 or 3 weeks" ?
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 9, 2023 17:38:06 GMT 1
I donāt understand how we are considered high risk for a new manager? We have a large squad, of underperforming players, with low expectations, with nothing to lose (currently we will be relegated). The takeover looming and a high likelihood of the new owners wanting to put their own stamp on things. Not much job security.
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Post by townarentbest on Feb 9, 2023 17:39:12 GMT 1
Anyone notice how Boro shot up the table as soon as Wilder left? Looking at the voting it would appear that very few did notice. Did you see how Oxford, Northampton and Sheff Utd shot up the leagues? A manager is allowed to have 1 club not work out if their track record is excellent. Are Boro also the first club he's managed where he's not remaining living in Sheffield?
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 9, 2023 17:40:21 GMT 1
Sadly I missed that one game against Cardiff. Its a shame because apparently we played like Brazil in 1970. Not quite although Nicholls did save a pen. I don't remember much of it but I don't remember it being as absolutely dogshite as every game under Buzz I've seen.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Feb 9, 2023 17:43:26 GMT 1
Anyone notice how Boro shot up the table as soon as Wilder left? Looking at the voting it would appear that very few did notice. Anyone notice how Wilder took over a disastrous season from Warnock and very nearly got Middleborough into the play offs despite his brief being to keep them up? The idea that he "failed" at Middlesbrough is ridiculous.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 9, 2023 17:44:09 GMT 1
Itās Chico time š UTT You can get delirious if you take life too serious.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 9, 2023 17:46:25 GMT 1
Hmm adding a staff member to his backroom team Buzz & Miller out, one guy in on a short term rolling contract. I'm not reading much into it.
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Post by mo2 on Feb 9, 2023 18:25:33 GMT 1
Now, come on, own up, which three of you voted for Steve Bruce??
Anyhow, Iād love Warnock, but he aināt leaving Cornwall to take us on. I actually think Cowleys is a good shout as they saved us beforeā¦ however wanted a say on who we signed - that sounds like a good idea doesnāt it?! (Hoyle wouldnāt have them back)
But Wilder would be a good experienced manager. We have some good players but need a man manager who doesnāt fall out with the players and has some tactical in-game know-how so the team can react in the right way and put on the right subs.
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Post by rockwall on Feb 9, 2023 18:30:07 GMT 1
Now, come on, own up, which three of you voted for Steve Bruce?? Anyhow, Iād love Warnock, but he aināt leaving Cornwall to take us on. I actually think Cowleys is a good shout as they saved us beforeā¦ however wanted a say on who we signed - that sounds like a good idea doesnāt it?! (Hoyle wouldnāt have them back) But Wilder would be a good experienced manager. We have some good players but need a man manager who doesnāt fall out with the players and has some tactical in-game know-how so the team can react in the right way and put on the right subs. Fuck me. The Cowleys? Really? They were atrocious.
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Post by htafc on Feb 9, 2023 18:31:10 GMT 1
If Scott parker was out of work i think he could do a good job
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Post by ashfieldterrier on Feb 9, 2023 18:35:38 GMT 1
If Scott parker was out of work i think he could do a good job He only works with mega expensive squads
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Feb 9, 2023 18:37:29 GMT 1
If Scott parker was out of work i think he could do a good job No, heās too fond of going to The Ivy in Cobham.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Feb 9, 2023 18:40:09 GMT 1
If Scott parker was out of work i think he could do a good job no. Because of this jacket
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Post by boooothy on Feb 9, 2023 18:40:12 GMT 1
If Scott parker was out of work i think he could do a good job He only works with mega expensive squads and cardigans
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Post by Lovechops on Feb 9, 2023 18:41:21 GMT 1
Can we get rid of some of the Poll takes 5 mins to scroll down to read anything šš¤£
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Feb 9, 2023 18:41:37 GMT 1
If Scott parker was out of work i think he could do a good job no. Because of this jacket Although he does appear to have got a promotion in the past
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Post by mo2 on Feb 9, 2023 18:41:45 GMT 1
āFuck me. The Cowleys? Really? They were atrocious.ā
No thanks. Yes and yes. They took us from 1 point after 6 games and got us to 50pts and safety. We need points not pretty football and complex systems. Get the ball forward quicker, press to keep it there and get people in the box.
But thereās no need to worry they wonāt be coming back.
I think it will be Wilder. Just an opinion!
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Post by sabailand on Feb 9, 2023 18:52:07 GMT 1
Now, come on, own up, which three of you voted for Steve Bruce?? Anyhow, Iād love Warnock, but he aināt leaving Cornwall to take us on. I actually think Cowleys is a good shout as they saved us beforeā¦ however wanted a say on who we signed - that sounds like a good idea doesnāt it?! (Hoyle wouldnāt have them back) But Wilder would be a good experienced manager. We have some good players but need a man manager who doesnāt fall out with the players and has some tactical in-game know-how so the team can react in the right way and put on the right subs. Fuck me. The Cowleys? Really? They were atrocious. I wouldnt say atrocious, they came in to do a specific job..ie keep us up, never really got any kind of consistency going though and left after behind the scenes stuff, atrocious is harsh though.
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Post by Wingman on Feb 9, 2023 18:52:13 GMT 1
no. Because of this jacket Ā Ā Ā Ā Although he does appear to have got a promotion in the past Looks to have earnt an extra stripe. Promotion from Tea Boy to Jellied Eels boy? Wilder or Dean Smith potentially for me. Both could turn this club round.
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Post by rockwall on Feb 9, 2023 19:01:59 GMT 1
āFuck me. The Cowleys? Really? They were atrocious.ā No thanks. Yes and yes. They took us from 1 point after 6 games and got us to 50pts and safety. We need points not pretty football and complex systems. Get the ball forward quicker, press to keep it there and get people in the box. But thereās no need to worry they wonāt be coming back. I think it will be Wilder. Just an opinion! You are blinkered. When they took over we were 4 points adrift with a game in hand. By the end of the season we survived by 3 points. So they gained 4 points over their tenure (given we won the game in hand) in their 39 games over the those who went down. With the squad they had, top half finish should have been achieved.
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Post by rockwall on Feb 9, 2023 19:04:06 GMT 1
Fuck me. The Cowleys? Really? They were atrocious. I wouldnt say atrocious, they came in to do a specific job..ie keep us up, never really got any kind of consistency going though and left after behind the scenes stuff, atrocious is harsh though. Sounds stupid, but if we didn't sack MF and we survived, would you say the same? His job was to come in and keep us up. But if we only did it by 3 points, he would have still got pelters and he has had a squad with a quarter of the talent the cowleys had.
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Post by RickDangerous on Feb 9, 2023 19:05:53 GMT 1
If Scott parker was out of work i think he could do a good job He seemed to be actively trying to not get Bournemouth promoted last time he was in the Championship.
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Post by htfc1908 on Feb 9, 2023 19:07:39 GMT 1
You don't have to be Mystic Meg to realise we've zero chance of getting Wilder as no doubt he'll be wanting the going rate for the job, which leaves us with someone already on the payroll until the new owners come in.
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Post by stinkypete on Feb 9, 2023 19:10:27 GMT 1
Not quite sure why everyone is panicking, itās obvious we didnāt have anyone lined up (typical Town) so we need a bit of stability over these crucial games. We dropped a bollock by not sacking Buzz after the Coventry debacle, wouldāve been ideal time just before qpr at home.
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Post by rphyorks on Feb 9, 2023 19:22:25 GMT 1
Can we get rid of some of the Poll takes 5 mins to scroll down to read anything šš¤£ and i wanted to vote for Marcelo Bielsa , but hes not on the list , so had to vote other.
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Post by boooothy on Feb 9, 2023 19:23:49 GMT 1
You don't have to be Mystic Meg to realise we've zero chance of getting Wilder as no doubt he'll be wanting the going rate for the job, which leaves us with someone already on the payroll until the new owners come in. Under normal circumstances of course we would not get Wilder or most on that list. But i think what we are proposing to him is a short term 4 month contract with a bonus for staying up. Whatever we offer him is more than he earns right now (unless Boro are still paying him)
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Post by willo on Feb 9, 2023 19:30:37 GMT 1
Although he does appear to have got a promotion in the past Looks to have earnt an extra stripe. Promotion from Tea Boy to Jellied Eels boy? Wilder or Dean Smith potentially for me. Both could turn this club round. Both good shouts, both āproperā coaches. Personally Iād be surprised if itās anything other than a fill-in til the end of the season and all this takeover talk is (hopefully) finalised. Narcis for 3 games, letās see how he does. He was certainly the only one last Saturday giving any meaningful direction from the touch line. Still think Warnock for the run in would be ideal but whether we can coax him out of Cornwall is another matter. Long term, Chris Wilder hasnāt suddenly become a poor coach and heād be a good fit for us, as would Dyche have been for leeds if Everton hadnāt beaten them to it. Iām not particularly taken with Scott Parker, Stevie G or Frank Lampard, all fanciful appointments anyway given weāre likely working with peanuts at least until any takeover goes through. Ultimately, anyone with Championship managerial experience and of fighting a relegation battle who can get us out of the current mess weāre in. The gameās far from up but we need to start winning some football matches very quickly. Iām a lot more positive already just by way of us getting rid of Fotheringham.
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