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Post by yoy on Feb 12, 2023 16:17:08 GMT 1
We will see. Fact, you will eat your words. Happy to..... but not based on what ive seen this season to date. Both played loads of games and done little. Rudoni - 26 games 0 goals and he came in as a goalscoring midfielder / no 10! Surely you appreciate that if he isn’t played in that position then it’ll impact his ability to have the output of someone who is ?
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Post by rockwall on Feb 12, 2023 16:17:30 GMT 1
We will see. Fact, you will eat your words. I think you said the same to me about Sinani He's now playing for Wigan Who are better than us..... so in reality he has gone on to better things. We are crying out for a Sinani. We have missed his contribution hugely. He also ran the show against us for Norwich with a goal and assist.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 12, 2023 16:48:13 GMT 1
I think you said the same to me about Sinani He's now playing for Wigan Who are better than us..... so in reality he has gone on to better things. We are crying out for a Sinani. We have missed his contribution hugely. He also ran the show against us for Norwich with a goal and assist. He's as average as they come. Most games he'll be useless for the whole of it, occassionally he'll have games where he's useless for the majority but pop up with a nice goal or assist He would not have helped this season. Your argument falls apart when you look at Thomas last season and this.
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Post by rockwall on Feb 12, 2023 16:55:01 GMT 1
Who are better than us..... so in reality he has gone on to better things. We are crying out for a Sinani. We have missed his contribution hugely. He also ran the show against us for Norwich with a goal and assist. He's as average as they come. Most games he'll be useless for the whole of it, occassionally he'll have games where he's useless for the majority but pop up with a nice goal or assist He would not have helped this season. Your argument falls apart from you look at Thomas last season and this. What about his work rate, it was excellent. His pressing was also the reason Ward had a great season. But onto your point about being useless for the majority but popping up with a goal or assist.... That goal or assist could have the one that wins you a game. Would have taken useless yesterday with a goal and assist from someone rather than just useless. Your point is invalid.
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Post by Kenny irons on Feb 12, 2023 16:59:56 GMT 1
Town haven't given up on warnock and they may have now swayed him after originally saying no.
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Post by buckers on Feb 12, 2023 17:01:50 GMT 1
Whoever comes in I’m not sure how they turn us around.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Feb 12, 2023 17:05:34 GMT 1
We know what Warnock demands from his teams, we have a great idea of how he likes to play. Therefore there can be no excuses for the players now, as its been clear to see all season that some players at times have not done as asked. If Warnock cannot get a tune out of this group, then i don't think anyone could .
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Post by prepare on Feb 12, 2023 17:09:34 GMT 1
Steve Bruce for the last dance 👀 The last dance to where we don't want to go. He just proves dinosaurs did exist. might as well give it to the drifters!!
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Post by Macduff on Feb 12, 2023 17:10:28 GMT 1
Whoever comes in I’m not sure how they turn us around. Quite. Is there a style that would actually suit our players, given there are no windows left to get in anyone else? Warnock not the answer, just an old man (although not that much older than me) with no new ideas, just a loud sweary voice.
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Post by goodbet on Feb 12, 2023 17:13:33 GMT 1
We know what Warnock demands from his teams, we have a great idea of how he likes to play. Therefore there can be no excuses for the players now, as its been clear to see all season that some players at times have not done as asked. If Warnock cannot get a tune out of this group, then i don't think anyone could . I worry that Warnock is yesterdays man. Can you imagine the shock in the dressing room if he repeated his half time team talk from YouTube to todays molly coddled footballers. They would all go home and cry and never come back out of their shells.
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 12, 2023 17:15:23 GMT 1
We know what Warnock demands from his teams, we have a great idea of how he likes to play. Therefore there can be no excuses for the players now, as its been clear to see all season that some players at times have not done as asked. If Warnock cannot get a tune out of this group, then i don't think anyone could . I worry that Warnock is yesterdays man. Can you imagine the shock in the dressing room if he repeated his half time team talk from YouTube to todays molly coddled footballers. They would all go home and cry and never come back out of their shells. He got Cardiff promoted to the Premier League less than 5 years ago, he must have moved with the times to some degree?
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Post by bells ringing :) on Feb 12, 2023 17:15:41 GMT 1
We know what Warnock demands from his teams, we have a great idea of how he likes to play. Therefore there can be no excuses for the players now, as its been clear to see all season that some players at times have not done as asked. If Warnock cannot get a tune out of this group, then i don't think anyone could . I worry that Warnock is yesterdays man. Can you imagine the shock in the dressing room if he repeated his half time team talk from YouTube to todays molly coddled footballers. They would all go home and cry and never come back out of their shells. Well Schofield /Narcis have , were very nice to them - what reaction did we get ?
Warnock has been around the game a long time, for a simple reason that he is good at what he does.
He may well be the only one willing to take it , on a short term basis and be up for the challenge .
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Post by dbterrier32 on Feb 12, 2023 17:30:38 GMT 1
We know what Warnock demands from his teams, we have a great idea of how he likes to play. Therefore there can be no excuses for the players now, as its been clear to see all season that some players at times have not done as asked. If Warnock cannot get a tune out of this group, then i don't think anyone could . I worry that Warnock is yesterdays man. Can you imagine the shock in the dressing room if he repeated his half time team talk from YouTube to todays molly coddled footballers. They would all go home and cry and never come back out of their shells. Listen back to the Takes that Chance podcast, I think it was the Ian Dunn special. They talked about Warnock and how he always came into jobs with a lot of details on the squad and the job in hand. This was before he started too (interview stages). So I don’t think it’s going to be a case of Yesterday’s man. The facts are, we are selling and nobody is going to want to come under those uncertain circumstances. You could do ok and still be out of a job in 3/6 months when new owners come in and want to do it their way. So it is very hard to attract a top end manager. This will prob be perfect for NW as won’t be looking for long term and the sentimental value will still be there for him. I say give it him, left him keep us up and then we regroup and focus in the summer with a good long term manager/plan
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Post by monkbar on Feb 12, 2023 17:37:47 GMT 1
Warnock now and Wilder in the summer. Would take that all day long.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Feb 12, 2023 17:38:49 GMT 1
Since Warnock has become clear fav for the job, its quite telling how the "in the know" posters have not posted .
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Post by hthp on Feb 12, 2023 17:41:51 GMT 1
I worry that Warnock is yesterdays man. Can you imagine the shock in the dressing room if he repeated his half time team talk from YouTube to todays molly coddled footballers. They would all go home and cry and never come back out of their shells. Listen back to the Takes that Chance podcast, I think it was the Ian Dunn special. They talked about Warnock and how he always came into jobs with a lot of details on the squad and the job in hand. This was before he started too (interview stages). So I don’t think it’s going to be a case of Yesterday’s man. The facts are, we are selling and nobody is going to want to come under those uncertain circumstances. You could do ok and still be out of a job in 3/6 months when new owners come in and want to do it their way. So it is very hard to attract a top end manager. This will prob be perfect for NW as won’t be looking for long term and the sentimental value will still be there for him. I say give it him, left him keep us up and then we regroup and focus in the summer with a good long term manager/plan I've spoken to Simon Collins, Iain Dunn and Lee Duxbury over the last couple of weeks and all three of them said the same about Warnock, a terrific man manager, they've all got a lot of time for him. Collins said "if you can’t get fired up when you’re a player that plays for Neil Warnock then you’ll never get fired up".
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Post by workshyfop on Feb 12, 2023 17:42:43 GMT 1
Warnock manager, Matty Pearson captain, Hudlin and Simpson upfront.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Feb 12, 2023 17:54:06 GMT 1
Rocket Ron could also be back if NW returns. He’d still do a better job than anyone else up front…..possibly.
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 12, 2023 18:01:02 GMT 1
As much as i would love him to come back I just can't see it. Surely his wage demands are out of our reach? Unless Dean is willing to throw more at it in one last throw of the dice.
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Post by hthp on Feb 12, 2023 18:08:37 GMT 1
Since Warnock has become clear fav for the job, its quite telling how the "in the know" posters have not posted . Meaning?
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Feb 12, 2023 18:13:50 GMT 1
I don't think anyone can get a tune out of this squad of misfits...The squad has been stuck together with random aged players and bunch of rookies..it isn't a 'team', it's a hotchpotch of blokes who appear every game like they've never met before... Even Pep would struggle , we're simply not good enough and now look certain to drop to league one. The 'blame' is 100% Hoyle's. If Wagner was in this situation, he'd drop training for a 3-4 days, fly them all up to the Arctic Circle, and let them fight for their lives and bond. They come back a totally different group.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Feb 12, 2023 18:14:42 GMT 1
I don't think anyone can get a tune out of this squad of misfits...The squad has been stuck together with random aged players and bunch of rookies..it isn't a 'team', it's a hotchpotch of blokes who appear every game like they've never met before... Even Pep would struggle , we're simply not good enough and now look certain to drop to league one. The 'blame' is 100% Hoyle's. If Wagner was in this situation, he'd drop training for a 3-4 days, fly them all up to the Arctic Circle, and let them fight for their lives and bond. They come back a totally different group.
...and if that didn't work, then they could let a few polar bears onto the pitch, that'd soon sort the oppostion out.
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Post by Macduff on Feb 12, 2023 18:21:32 GMT 1
Warnock manager, Matty Pearson captain, Hudlin and Simpson upfront. Hoooooooooooooof!
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Post by saintlyterrier on Feb 12, 2023 18:25:06 GMT 1
As predicted earlier, the idea of Warnock at Town is indeed making me implode.
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Post by willo on Feb 12, 2023 18:25:08 GMT 1
I think if the club are genuinely serious about staying in the Championship, it has to be Warnock for me til the end of the season. I can’t see anyone else on that list as being either: a) an appointment for life in League 1; or b) being anywhere close to being good enough to keep us up. He has a great track record for keeping teams up - probably second to none - and if he can be persuaded to take us on, reckon he is by far and away the best bet. Wilder long term if we can stay up and if the club can get some new owners but for now, definitely Warnock. He’ll get the backing of the fans.
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Post by willo on Feb 12, 2023 18:27:26 GMT 1
As predicted earlier, the idea of Warnock at Town is indeed making me implode. Who would be your choice? There’s plenty of names out there if we are resigned to going down would be ok in League 1 but hardly any that could do the job we need doing right now.
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Post by Sio on Feb 12, 2023 18:32:54 GMT 1
I never thought I'd see the day where I wanted a Warnock type managing Town again, but unfortunately the absolute mess that has been created has left it feeling like the best option.
We need someone vastly experienced in getting clubs out of a mess, someone who won't take any nonsense, and someone who will likely command a degree of respect. There aren't many better at this level.
I'm not entirely sure what other options people are expecting or even hoping for. Now isn't the time to start a new project. It's absolutely a time for a short term fix to keep us up for a new start in summer.
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Post by boooothy on Feb 12, 2023 18:34:43 GMT 1
As much as i would love him to come back I just can't see it. Surely his wage demands are out of our reach? Unless Dean is willing to throw more at it in one last throw of the dice. How much can someone possibly demand for a few weeks work
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Post by willo on Feb 12, 2023 18:38:00 GMT 1
I never thought I'd see the day where I wanted a Warnock type managing Town again, but unfortunately the absolute mess that has been created has left it feeling like the best option. We need someone vastly experienced in getting clubs out of a mess, someone who won't take any nonsense, and someone who will likely command a degree of respect. There aren't many better at this level. I'm not entirely sure what other options people are expecting or even hoping for. Now isn't the time to start a new project. It's absolutely a time for a short term fix to keep us up for a new start in summer. Is Neil Warnock even the same type of coach he was when he last managed us? He’s had a lot of jobs since leaving us including managing in the PL and I don’t remember much hoof ball when he was the Palace manager. Alternatively, if we are ok as a club with being relegated, then crack on with another project and hope they can get us up at the first time of asking.
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 12, 2023 18:38:55 GMT 1
Warnock now and Wilder in the summer. Would take that all day long. I wonder if this would complicate things a bit. The two don't like each other at all
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