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Post by goodbet on Feb 11, 2023 12:21:13 GMT 1
.... also nice to see someone from the club acknowledge the play off final and maybe allude to the fact we were totally shafted. Sometimes I think it was all a dream due to the fact nobody at the club has ever even mentioned it. Weird. Maybe sums up the apathy at the top. What's the point in dwelling on it? We're in a relegation battle, banging on about the play-offs from last season won't change anything. A vent every now and again does one good. If you aren't carful you will begin to sound more like a Dean supporter than a Town fan.
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Post by hthp on Feb 11, 2023 12:23:11 GMT 1
What's the point in dwelling on it? We're in a relegation battle, banging on about the play-offs from last season won't change anything. A vent every now and again does one good. If you aren't carful you will begin to sound more like a Dean supporter than a Town fan. Why's that then?
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Post by goodbet on Feb 11, 2023 12:36:44 GMT 1
A vent every now and again does one good. If you aren't carful you will begin to sound more like a Dean supporter than a Town fan. Why's that then? You know the type, can't say anything on hear sometimes without certain people calling you out if you criticise what Dean said or what he didn't.
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Post by hthp on Feb 11, 2023 12:39:07 GMT 1
You know the type, can't say anything on hear sometimes without certain people calling you out if you criticise what Dean said or what he didn't. I was there long before Dean Hoyle and I'll be there long after Dean Hoyle. The only attachment I have is Huddersfield Town, I'm not a big fan of getting attached to players, coaches and chairmen and calling everyone a legend because they liked a tweet or scored a goal. I support Huddersfield Town not Dean Hoyle.
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 11, 2023 12:40:52 GMT 1
he mentioned it as part of outlining his reasons for staying at the club. I thought that'd wash well with you considering your opinions on Carlos! I like that it was mentioned. It shows his loyalty to the club, and reminds us that we are capable of these things as a club My opinions on Carlos Corberan (why the insistence on calling people by their first names? Carlos, Chicho, Boris, Rishi etc...) are irrelevant. He's gone and is managing somewhere else. The only thing that matters about Pelach is if he gets results. What he says in press conferences is immaterial, results on the pitch are the only thing that's important here. If he doesn't get them, he shouldn't last very long. If he does get them, brilliant, we stay up, get taken over and have the opportunity to get a proper manager in. the only important thing is results, everything else is just noise, and as you say, immaterial. So why are you making dozens of posts on this thread, and reaching conclusions before he's even had a chance to get a result? You're probably right that he's not ready for a task this size yet, but isn't part of the fun of watching football the fact that these things aren't predetermined? That you don't know what's gonna happen week to week, and can cling onto a bit of hope that you're going to be part of some big joyous scrum
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Post by hthp on Feb 11, 2023 12:42:19 GMT 1
My opinions on Carlos Corberan (why the insistence on calling people by their first names? Carlos, Chicho, Boris, Rishi etc...) are irrelevant. He's gone and is managing somewhere else. The only thing that matters about Pelach is if he gets results. What he says in press conferences is immaterial, results on the pitch are the only thing that's important here. If he doesn't get them, he shouldn't last very long. If he does get them, brilliant, we stay up, get taken over and have the opportunity to get a proper manager in. the only important thing is results, everything else is just noise, and as you say, immaterial. So why are you making dozens of posts on this thread, and reaching conclusions before he's even had a chance to get a result? You're probably right that he's not ready for a task this size yet, but isn't part of the fun of watching football the fact that these things aren't predetermined? That you don't know what's gonna happen week to week, and can cling onto a bit of hope that you're going to be part of some big joyous scrum Because I think giving him the job full-time would be ridiculous, seeing as though we've appointed two rookies who have been absolute failures. Appointing a third would be stupidity. And, from what I can see, it's pretty obvious that Chicho Pelach is the new manager.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 11, 2023 12:48:59 GMT 1
You take your badges, you do some assistant coaching at clubs, how and when do you the become an established manager/head coach??
You get given a chance??
Maybe more than one chance?
Proper managers were all given a chance, many have had a few chances.
Hardly any manager is a success at every job they take,with a few noteable exceptions.
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Post by hthp on Feb 11, 2023 12:51:45 GMT 1
You take your badges, you do some assistant coaching at clubs, how and when do you the become an established manager/head coach?? You get given a chance?? Maybe more than one chance? Proper managers were all given a chance, many have had a few chances. Hardly any manager is a success at every job they take,with a few noteable exceptions. All anyone has done is slag the club off for appointing Schofield and Fotheringham. But now they're buzzing because good old Chicho has got the job and they like him. If Jon Worthington had got it, for example, no doubt they'd have been going berserk. Our Championship status is in massive danger and everyone is buzzing that we've given yet another inexperienced manager the job, just because it's Chicho and they love him. Can't anybody see how daft it is?
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Post by goodbet on Feb 11, 2023 12:54:08 GMT 1
You know the type, can't say anything on hear sometimes without certain people calling you out if you criticise what Dean said or what he didn't. I was there long before Dean Hoyle and I'll be there long after Dean Hoyle. The only attachment I have is Huddersfield Town, I'm not a big fan of getting attached to players, coaches and chairmen and calling everyone a legend because they liked a tweet or scored a goal. I support Huddersfield Town not Dean Hoyle. Read what I put, "If you aren't carful you will begin to sound more like ". I didn't say you were.
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 11, 2023 13:06:29 GMT 1
the only important thing is results, everything else is just noise, and as you say, immaterial. So why are you making dozens of posts on this thread, and reaching conclusions before he's even had a chance to get a result? You're probably right that he's not ready for a task this size yet, but isn't part of the fun of watching football the fact that these things aren't predetermined? That you don't know what's gonna happen week to week, and can cling onto a bit of hope that you're going to be part of some big joyous scrum Because I think giving him the job full-time would be ridiculous, seeing as though we've appointed two rookies who have been absolute failures. Appointing a third would be stupidity. And, from what I can see, it's pretty obvious that Chicho Pelach is the new manager. I do probably agree with you. But as I said, reaching conclusions! Just hang fire for a bit! He might turn out to be Catalonia's second best tactical brain
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 11, 2023 13:22:36 GMT 1
You take your badges, you do some assistant coaching at clubs, how and when do you the become an established manager/head coach?? You get given a chance?? Maybe more than one chance? Proper managers were all given a chance, many have had a few chances. Hardly any manager is a success at every job they take,with a few noteable exceptions. All anyone has done is slag the club off for appointing Schofield and Fotheringham. But now they're buzzing because good old Chicho has got the job and they like him. If Jon Worthington had got it, for example, no doubt they'd have been going berserk. Our Championship status is in massive danger and everyone is buzzing that we've given yet another inexperienced manager the job, just because it's Chicho and they love him. Can't anybody see how daft it is? Have we given him the job, does he want it??
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Post by hthp on Feb 11, 2023 13:23:27 GMT 1
All anyone has done is slag the club off for appointing Schofield and Fotheringham. But now they're buzzing because good old Chicho has got the job and they like him. If Jon Worthington had got it, for example, no doubt they'd have been going berserk. Our Championship status is in massive danger and everyone is buzzing that we've given yet another inexperienced manager the job, just because it's Chicho and they love him. Can't anybody see how daft it is? Have we given him the job, does he want it?? Looks like it to me.
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Post by Amigo on Feb 11, 2023 13:34:16 GMT 1
You know the type, can't say anything on hear sometimes without certain people calling you out if you criticise what Dean said or what he didn't. I was there long before Dean Hoyle and I'll be there long after Dean Hoyle. The only attachment I have is Huddersfield Town, I'm not a big fan of getting attached to players, coaches and chairmen and calling everyone a legend because they liked a tweet or scored a goal. I support Huddersfield Town not Dean Hoyle. I'm the opposite, I'm a big fan of getting attached to players and coaches. I fucking loved every one of them during the promotion season. Wagner getting everyone together, VLP couldn't shoot or cross for toffee but it didn't matter because I could see his effort tracking back and running with the ball and how it helped the team, Mooy being able to almost control a while game on his own, Lowe, Hefele, Schindler, Hogg, Kachunga, Wells, Smith, Brown, Palmer etc all had deficiencies but because I bought in to it all I was big fans of theirs and I saw all the positives in them much more than the negatives. It was far more fun.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 13:39:00 GMT 1
Have we given him the job, does he want it?? Looks like it to me. I think you are in the minority. It will be hard to get a good experienced manager given our situation but the club seem to be trying. What is the alternative at the moment?
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Post by goodbet on Feb 11, 2023 13:51:13 GMT 1
I think you are in the minority. It will be hard to get a good experienced manager given our situation but the club seem to be trying. What is the alternative at the moment? We could get Bromby to do another lucky dip
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 11, 2023 13:57:21 GMT 1
Have we given him the job, does he want it?? Looks like it to me. Just looks like someone has to take the team to me. He is just the obvious candidate.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 11, 2023 15:13:02 GMT 1
he mentioned it as part of outlining his reasons for staying at the club. I thought that'd wash well with you considering your opinions on Carlos! I like that it was mentioned. It shows his loyalty to the club, and reminds us that we are capable of these things as a club My opinions on Carlos Corberan (why the insistence on calling people by their first names? Carlos, Chicho, Boris, Rishi etc...) are irrelevant. He's gone and is managing somewhere else. The only thing that matters about Pelach is if he gets results. What he says in press conferences is immaterial, results on the pitch are the only thing that's important here. If he doesn't get them, he shouldn't last very long. If he does get them, brilliant, we stay up, get taken over and have the opportunity to get a proper manager in. I think it’s important to generate a good feeling about the place as well of course of getting results. The atmosphere around this club has been appalling for a long time. He seems to have the personality to be able to do this.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 11, 2023 15:20:52 GMT 1
he mentioned it as part of outlining his reasons for staying at the club. I thought that'd wash well with you considering your opinions on Carlos! I like that it was mentioned. It shows his loyalty to the club, and reminds us that we are capable of these things as a club My opinions on Carlos Corberan (why the insistence on calling people by their first names? Carlos, Chicho, Boris, Rishi etc...) are irrelevant. He's gone and is managing somewhere else. The only thing that matters about Pelach is if he gets results. What he says in press conferences is immaterial, results on the pitch are the only thing that's important here. If he doesn't get them, he shouldn't last very long. If he does get them, brilliant, we stay up, get taken over and have the opportunity to get a proper manager in. Hypothetically speaking, if he does retain the job until the end of the season, and he keeps us up (with something to spare), would it change your opinion of the bloke? Maybe this is his springboard opportunity? I appreciate he’s been quite up front about saying he’s not interested, but maybe something will click? Neither of us know of course.
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Post by royrace on Feb 11, 2023 15:24:08 GMT 1
.... also nice to see someone from the club acknowledge the play off final and maybe allude to the fact we were totally shafted. Sometimes I think it was all a dream due to the fact nobody at the club has ever even mentioned it. Weird. Maybe sums up the apathy at the top. What's the point in dwelling on it? We're in a relegation battle, banging on about the play-offs from last season won't change anything. At the time the club should have made a statement of some sort to acknowledge what had happened, keeping completely silent after that total shafting is/was weird and inappropriate imo. As a fan I wanted to see the club say something, anything, maybe the players did too.
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Post by hthp on Feb 12, 2023 16:45:30 GMT 1
My opinions on Carlos Corberan (why the insistence on calling people by their first names? Carlos, Chicho, Boris, Rishi etc...) are irrelevant. He's gone and is managing somewhere else. The only thing that matters about Pelach is if he gets results. What he says in press conferences is immaterial, results on the pitch are the only thing that's important here. If he doesn't get them, he shouldn't last very long. If he does get them, brilliant, we stay up, get taken over and have the opportunity to get a proper manager in. Hypothetically speaking, if he does retain the job until the end of the season, and he keeps us up (with something to spare), would it change your opinion of the bloke? Maybe this is his springboard opportunity? I appreciate he’s been quite up front about saying he’s not interested, but maybe something will click? Neither of us know of course. I saw enough yesterday to back up my opinion of him as a manager. He will not be keeping us up.
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Post by Wingman on Feb 12, 2023 17:31:58 GMT 1
Until HTAFC35 or Maynard say Pelach is a gimme for the job, then he is just the caretaker. This is standard practice once a manager is sacked, someone steps in temporarily to lead the team.
I can’t see for all the world how Pelach will get the job permanently, especially with a takeover in the offing. As a temporary fix, it works.
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Post by wigster on Feb 12, 2023 17:37:23 GMT 1
I was inclined to think the Chicho might get the gig until the end of the season as he's just brought his own coach over, but then I also think the club would have announced that straight away like they did with Schofield. I wish Chicho and the boys all the best against Wigan. Come on boys! But I'm still sending my prayers to the almighty lord above for Wilder or Dean Smith. Sadly you can't say "almighty lord" anymore as he ia about to become "our gender neutral person who art in heaven"... You're hopeless aren't you ? It should be "our gender neutral person who art in theyaven..." For goodness sake sharpen up.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 12, 2023 18:08:19 GMT 1
Sadly you can't say "almighty lord" anymore as he ia about to become "our gender neutral person who art in heaven"... You're hopeless aren't you ? It should be "our gender neutral person who art in theyaven..." For goodness sake sharpen up. Or "who doesn't exist"
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 13, 2023 17:09:21 GMT 1
Come on Narcis, get your win percentage up to 66% on Wed, then hand over the keys to the crazy gang…
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Post by jackandjillupthehill on Feb 15, 2023 10:32:12 GMT 1
i think it should be a full clearout of coaching staff theirs nothing to suggest any otherwise
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Post by hthp on Feb 15, 2023 10:33:50 GMT 1
i think it should be a full clearout of coaching staff theirs nothing to suggest any otherwise Hopefully.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 15, 2023 10:39:41 GMT 1
Who would you prefer as interim head coach? No-one, but it's pretty obvious that Pelach is going to get it full-time. As I said, ludicrous. This aged well. Or is he taking over from Colin at the end of the season?
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Post by runner76 on Feb 15, 2023 11:10:36 GMT 1
No-one, but it's pretty obvious that Pelach is going to get it full-time. As I said, ludicrous. This aged well. Or is he taking over from Colin at the end of the season? I’d assumed the ‘era’ may last more than a couple of games! Wish him and the lads all the best tonight - let’s get that win!!!!
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Post by hthp on Feb 15, 2023 11:13:56 GMT 1
No-one, but it's pretty obvious that Pelach is going to get it full-time. As I said, ludicrous. This aged well. Or is he taking over from Colin at the end of the season? Hopefully following Warnock out the door at the end of the season.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 15, 2023 11:22:24 GMT 1
This aged well. Or is he taking over from Colin at the end of the season? Hopefully following Warnock out the door at the end of the season. TBF I rate Pelach and wouldn't be upset to see him stay, but would accept that whoever is here next season is likely to want their own team. I was referring to your assertion that it was "obvious" that he would get the head coach role full time.
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