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Post by alex on Feb 14, 2023 18:58:57 GMT 1
Well, he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy. It isn't gonna be pretty, but it's sure gonna be interesting
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Post by westislandterrier on Feb 14, 2023 19:12:34 GMT 1
I’ve voted too close to call (mainly due to the run in Town face in March and especially April)...
This is a season that could go down to a three outta four go down scenario and goal difference could easily be the deciding factor -
I’m only predicting this of course on the appointment of a certain Mr Neil Warnock to the managerial post at Huddersfield Town yesterday ! 👍
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 14, 2023 19:15:07 GMT 1
You have to look at what he did for Rotherham and think we have a way better squad. Ours is just a squad with its heads well and truly down. If he can get them believing in themselves again then we should 100% stay up. We are only a point off.
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Post by Will on Feb 14, 2023 20:05:02 GMT 1
Top appointment. Of course he turns it around. We’ve had shit managers all season and are only a point off with a game in hand. I’d expect mid table form as we really aren’t much better than that. I think I have a with his name on it too so I’m having my cake and eating it with a fucking cherry on top. Believe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 21:06:45 GMT 1
I really hope so but I am not certain. Good news is we are not cut adrift so it is definitely possible we escape this mess.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 14, 2023 21:13:33 GMT 1
It'd be nice if they players gave him a helping hand by actually winning tomorrow.
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Post by westislandterrier on Feb 14, 2023 21:50:37 GMT 1
It'd be nice if they players gave him a helping hand by actually winning tomorrow. Yep... Let’s ‘Stoke’ the fire fight up three notches (three points) please for a nice base for Neil to work on please !
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 14, 2023 21:50:43 GMT 1
You have to look at what he did for Rotherham and think we have a way better squad. Ours is just a squad with its heads well and truly down. If he can get them believing in themselves again then we should 100% stay up. We are only a point off. How do we have a way better squad? I think some severely over estimate the ability of our players. We've got 5 or 6 who are decent Championship players. The rest are playing one level too high of what they are currently or once were capable of
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Post by waggers on Feb 14, 2023 22:40:05 GMT 1
Too close to call, if he'd have been put in a month ago would have been a definite survival in my opinion. Does he have long enough to get this lot drilled into a hard to beat unit? This group of underperforming men need to listen to his every word for this to work.
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Post by stevvy on Feb 14, 2023 22:47:57 GMT 1
Definitely too close to call. Rotherham currently drawing and Cardiff winning doesn't help us tonight, but......honestly it's too close to call. If we do go down, we'll go down fighting though, we won't be down with 3 or 4 games to go. I just fear that we've maybe left it a month too late, and that we should've made the change after the Preston cup game or the Hull league game
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Feb 14, 2023 23:14:11 GMT 1
‘Too close to call’ here
I simply can’t see us winning Stoke tomorrow night.
Our squad is truly dreadful.
He’ll some some magic but not sure it will be enough.
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Post by Orinoco on Feb 15, 2023 1:37:35 GMT 1
He will not go down without a bloody good fight, we are guaranteed that whatever!!!
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 15, 2023 7:39:57 GMT 1
‘Too close to call’ here I simply can’t see us winning Stoke tomorrow night. Our squad is truly dreadful. He’ll some some magic but not sure it will be enough. I don't think our squad is truly dreadful - but our mentality is. We're finding ways to lose when it's almost impossible to lose. That's the toll of this season, especially on the younger players. The silver lining? Warnock's strongest attribute is his mentality and instilling belief in his players.
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Post by mooythegoat on Feb 15, 2023 8:44:24 GMT 1
Think we’re down personally, the recruitment has been absolutely awful, had we given warnock a transfer window and the same funds to bring in players he could get results out of think it would have been different but we’re run like a sh**show.
Also depended heavily on premier league loan recruits in previous years, ESR and Chalobah were key the year we stayed up we have none of that this time.
Love warnock would have been a great appointment 6 weeks ago but left it too late as always.
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Post by Dan on Feb 15, 2023 10:10:22 GMT 1
Everyone saying we've left it too late to appoint Warnock... Have you considered his side? He's said in a few interviews over the last year that he likes to work from Valentines day onwards!
He's 74 year old, and settled in Cornwall, he doesn't want to be working full time for over 6 months a year, and is clearly happy to do a short-term role which happens to fit nicely between a gap in his tour dates as he doesn't have another now until May.
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Post by dugnet on Feb 15, 2023 10:52:21 GMT 1
I really think it is too close to call. My head says we needed to give him some input to the January window but my heart says if anyone can turn this round it is Neil.
I do worry that we really don't have enough in the squad. Enough in the way of quality, adaptiveness and, most importantly, heart. It's all very well senior players getting animated on the pitch but we need 11 players to stand up for each other, and the club, for each of the last games.
A proper tear up against Brum might get the momentum going. We certainly need a kick start from somewhere.
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Post by foxtrot666 on Feb 15, 2023 10:57:17 GMT 1
‘Too close to call’ here I simply can’t see us winning Stoke tomorrow night. Our squad is truly dreadful. He’ll some some magic but not sure it will be enough. I don't think our squad is truly dreadful - but our mentality is. We're finding ways to lose when it's almost impossible to lose. That's the toll of this season, especially on the younger players. The silver lining? Warnock's strongest attribute is his mentality and instilling belief in his players. I think our squad is dreadful, especially up front, we don't create much and even if we did we don't have a decent goal scorer. Agree regards Warnocks mentality though and think he's a good appointment, as already said whatever happens the rest of the season will be interesting.
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Post by Town1971 on Feb 15, 2023 11:08:08 GMT 1
Sadly I feel it's too close to call .
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Post by araucaria on Feb 15, 2023 12:23:26 GMT 1
You have to look at what he did for Rotherham and think we have a way better squad. Ours is just a squad with its heads well and truly down. If he can get them believing in themselves again then we should 100% stay up. We are only a point off. How do we have a way better squad? I think some severely over estimate the ability of our players. We've got 5 or 6 who are decent Championship players. The rest are playing one level too high of what they are currently or once were capable of Neil Redfearn left Neil with a dozen good, solid, mainly journeymen pros, who had made between 200 and 400+ league appearances. Lee Camp, Kirk Broadfoot, Danny Collins, Lee Frecklington, Lloyd Doyley, Greg Halford, Paul Green, Joe Mattock, Frazer Richardson, Richard Wood, Leon Best and Danny Ward. Jerome Thomas arrived just as Redfearn left. They all played some part in the last 16 games. Before the man got there, with W1 D1 L5, you would have said they were ready for their retirement homes. Wardy scored twice for him in 6 starts (+7 sub). Rotherham 2015-16 couldn't have looked more like a Warnock squad if he'd put it together himself. I doubt that you would say the same about our present group, although we could have had about the same number of experienced players had we not lost several to injury, but a fair few are competing for the same places in the team. I wonder if he thinks he's got enough to work with. When he looks at Josh Ruffels he might think that Jon Whitney is still here.
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Post by hthp on Feb 15, 2023 12:29:42 GMT 1
How do we have a way better squad? I think some severely over estimate the ability of our players. We've got 5 or 6 who are decent Championship players. The rest are playing one level too high of what they are currently or once were capable of Neil Redfearn left Neil with a dozen good, solid, mainly journeymen pros, who had made between 200 and 400+ league appearances. Lee Camp, Kirk Broadfoot, Danny Collins, Lee Frecklington, Lloyd Doyley, Greg Halford, Paul Green, Joe Mattock, Frazer Richardson, Richard Wood, Leon Best and Danny Ward. Jerome Thomas arrived just as Redfearn left. They all played some part in the last 13 games. Before the man got there, with W1 D2 L7, you would have said they were ready for their retirement homes. Ward didn't score for him in 4 starts (+7 sub). Rotherham 2015-16 couldn't have looked more like a Warnock squad if he'd put it together himself. I doubt that you would say the same about our present group, although we could have had about the same number of experienced players had we not lost several to injury, but a fair few are competing for the same places in the team. I wonder if he thinks he's got enough to work with. When he looks at Josh Ruffels he might think that John Whitney is still here. He must be confident that he can keep us up. I don't think he'd have touched us with a bargepole if he didn't truly believe he could do a job here.
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Post by araucaria on Feb 15, 2023 12:34:42 GMT 1
Sadly I feel it's too close to call . Rotherham's fans might have said the same in 2016, 25 points from 30 games and locked in with 3 other cut-off teams, Charlton, MK Dons and Bolton. 8 games later, 7 of them against teams that finished between 1st and 10th, W4 D2 L2, they were practically safe (because 22nd obligingly managed only 40 points and you just know that that won't happen this season). I trusted that Dave wouldn't let us be dragged into a scrap at the bottom, but it's just as well there weren't two Rotherhams. I'd love it, love it, if we could get up the table and frighten the life out of some of the wankers above us, especially Birmingham.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 15, 2023 14:47:47 GMT 1
We wont win 16 games. We might get a hiding in one or two, the trick of management in this situation is to deal with defeats in the run in, so that they are forgotten quickly and the next game is the only thing. A win is simply one game, next please. Targetting particular games is incredibly dangerous policy. Colin has been here regularly and will have a pretty simple approach I think. Bet we dont see Hoggy playing the 'pivot' role much? Probably wont see too much of Hungbo or Knockheart defending deep. There will be an easy to follow instruction manual.
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Post by willo on Feb 15, 2023 15:27:50 GMT 1
Too close to call for me. If he’d been happy to come after we sacked Schofield, he would have kept us up and potentially had us pushing for a play-off place having had the January window to recruit. If we had appointed him on the back of the Coventry game, he’d have had 2 crucial games to come. I am of the opinion if anyone is getting us out of this mess though, it’s Warnock. If he can’t, it won’t be for the want of trying but I am a little worried we may have left it too late.
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Feb 15, 2023 15:44:06 GMT 1
‘Too close to call’ here I simply can’t see us winning Stoke tomorrow night. Our squad is truly dreadful. He’ll some some magic but not sure it will be enough. I don't think our squad is truly dreadful - but our mentality is. We're finding ways to lose when it's almost impossible to lose. That's the toll of this season, especially on the younger players. The silver lining? Warnock's strongest attribute is his mentality and instilling belief in his players. Who's in centre midfield?! We literally don't have a centre midfield.
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Post by araucaria on Feb 15, 2023 16:55:05 GMT 1
I don't think our squad is truly dreadful - but our mentality is. We're finding ways to lose when it's almost impossible to lose. That's the toll of this season, especially on the younger players. The silver lining? Warnock's strongest attribute is his mentality and instilling belief in his players. Who's in centre midfield?! We literally don't have a centre midfield. Then maybe we won't bother with one. Chris Marsden threw his shirt at Warnock as he was substituted on the opening day of 1993-94 and went off to see if he could get the crick out of his neck.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 15, 2023 17:37:07 GMT 1
Who's in centre midfield?! We literally don't have a centre midfield. Then maybe we won't bother with one. Chris Marsden threw his shirt at Warnock as he was substituted on the opening day of 1993-94 and went off to see if he could get the crick out of his neck. Aye, Mazza, Rev Phil and Big Iwan, he bombed them all out.
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Post by townarentbest on Feb 15, 2023 17:40:47 GMT 1
Too close to call for me. If he’d been happy to come after we sacked Schofield, he would have kept us up and potentially had us pushing for a play-off place having had the January window to recruit. If we had appointed him on the back of the Coventry game, he’d have had 2 crucial games to come. I am of the opinion if anyone is getting us out of this mess though, it’s Warnock. If he can’t, it won’t be for the want of trying but I am a little worried we may have left it too late. If he'd come in when MF joined, to manage this fullish season, what difference would that have really made as to who we signed in January? Paddy Kenny has retired, Or are you thinking the hierarchy would have blown the budget chasing a dream assuming we were top 8 or so??? (they likely wouldn't - we signed only Blackman and Eiting last January when well placed)
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Post by onesteviekindon on Feb 15, 2023 17:47:36 GMT 1
I'd feel more confident if he had the opportunity to recruit a few players of his choice. He's stuck with what we've got (unfortunately) but I know he'll give it a right go. Good luck Neil, pull this off and you will go down as a double Town legend.
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Post by goodbet on Feb 15, 2023 18:24:55 GMT 1
Too close to call for me. If he’d been happy to come after we sacked Schofield, he would have kept us up and potentially had us pushing for a play-off place having had the January window to recruit. If we had appointed him on the back of the Coventry game, he’d have had 2 crucial games to come. I am of the opinion if anyone is getting us out of this mess though, it’s Warnock. If he can’t, it won’t be for the want of trying but I am a little worried we may have left it too late. If he'd come in when MF joined, to manage this fullish season, what difference would that have really made as to who we signed in January? Paddy Kenny has retired, Or are you thinking the hierarchy would have blown the budget chasing a dream assuming we were top 8 or so??? (they likely wouldn't - we signed only Blackman and Eiting last January when well placed) Warnock would have known the team by the time January came and the areas he wanted to strengthen, I expect that he would not have had the final say, but he would not hang around given players that would not have helped him benefit the team as he sees it.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Feb 15, 2023 19:19:33 GMT 1
A no nonsense Warnock approach is just about the only thing that can get us out of the shit with this bunch of dire players
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