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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Feb 25, 2023 17:58:58 GMT 1
Right, you’ve had your free hit you pricks. Now get us enough wins from the last 13 games to stay up.
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Post by hxterrierhx on Feb 25, 2023 17:59:22 GMT 1
Nothing more than a training and fitness exercise that, some players got some yards in their legs, Warnock got a look a couple of players in match situations (REG & Koroma), managed to totally rest Hogg (who had a niggle but played last week apparently) and no need to risk Pearson on a game that we were never ever going to be in. Simpson had a training ground injury too, if today was Coventry at home, I'd expect to have seen Hogg & Pearson start, and Simpson the bench.
We are poor, but this Burnley team will run away with the league and you can see why.
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Post by wigster on Feb 25, 2023 17:59:57 GMT 1
Burnley commentators are not as good as their team think they need to know how to look up information about who they play !! Spouting pure shite! They could have been a hundred times more critical of us. They basically dismissed us, rather than saying how bloody awful we were.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 17:59:57 GMT 1
Burnley are probably the best team at this level since Reading in 05/06. It would have been a miracle to get anything. Getting something at Turf Moor wouldn't have changed the results at Blackpool or Wigan. And it was only 1-0 in the second half. That was the Scott High effect
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Post by Tez on Feb 25, 2023 18:01:12 GMT 1
NW rested players today and it didn’t end up as bad as it could have been. Next 2 games massive Vs cov & bristol
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 25, 2023 18:01:24 GMT 1
How come I am still angry and disappointed, even though this result was inevitable? The result being different from the approach and the performance, probably. Losing 4 0 to Real Madrid with some fight and some positivety is a professional football performance. How we KNEW that all the other rubbish in the division would lose today is something else?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 25, 2023 18:02:37 GMT 1
Bad defeat against the standout team in the division, it was a big ask tbf. Atleased we haven't lost any ground on the teams around us.
Two massive home games coming up.
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Post by bigtruck on Feb 25, 2023 18:02:40 GMT 1
NW rested players today and it didn’t end up as bad as it could have been. Next 2 games massive Vs cov & bristol Fully agree on resting the players. Bilo is the only one I’d have put on bench as a drubbing can effect a young uns confidence
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Post by malcolmbrown on Feb 25, 2023 18:02:48 GMT 1
How have Burnley been so successful in the last decade or so. Smallish club like us but have spent years in the top flight and are absolutely walking this division. We haven't had automatic promotion in 40 years.
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Post by wigster on Feb 25, 2023 18:04:33 GMT 1
Sorry, its not a warm up, its a competetive professional match and from coach downwards its lacked that from us. Suggest you tell those who paid and travelled that we would not even compete. Its not better players, its not even 3 nil down, its that we have done zero to make it a game. If they are not embarrassed then the support there may well be. No league game can be a given, its the wrong approach. We'd have to play them 10 times to get a result - everyone who has gone knows that. The players Burnley have available are simply better quality than ours, and have had their way of working drilled into them all season. Of course we didn't set out to purposely lose, its simply that we are shit (comparatively) - there's not really much that can be done about that. Burnley's whole team cost A FRACTION of the money that Hoyle spent - a FRACTION. They also brought in Kompany, whilst we saved money by bringing in Schofield, oh and then Fotheringham. You couldn't make it up...
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 25, 2023 18:06:37 GMT 1
We'd have to play them 10 times to get a result - everyone who has gone knows that. The players Burnley have available are simply better quality than ours, and have had their way of working drilled into them all season. Of course we didn't set out to purposely lose, its simply that we are shit (comparatively) - there's not really much that can be done about that. Burnley's whole team cost A FRACTION of the money that Hoyle spent - a FRACTION. They also brought in Kompany, whilst we saved money by bringing in Schofield, oh and then Fotheringham. You couldn't make it up... I don't disbelieve you, but you are going to have to do some groundwork to back up your statement with some figures if you are intent on putting it in CAPITAL LETTERS.
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 25, 2023 18:08:25 GMT 1
Seems weird saying this after a 4-0 defeat but its actually been a pretty good day. Weve got by far and away the toughest game of the fixture list out of the way and every team in the bottom 9 who played today has lost too, so we havent lost any ground on anyone.
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Post by Tez on Feb 25, 2023 18:13:16 GMT 1
Seems weird saying this after a 4-0 defeat but its actually been a pretty good day. Weve got by far and away the toughest game of the fixture list out of the way and every team in the bottom 9 who played today has lost too, so we havent lost any ground on anyone. That calls for a 🍻🍻🍻🔵⚪️👍🏻
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Post by ldr on Feb 25, 2023 18:15:08 GMT 1
Seems weird saying this after a 4-0 defeat but its actually been a pretty good day. Weve got by far and away the toughest game of the fixture list out of the way and every team in the bottom 9 who played today has lost too, so we havent lost any ground on anyone. Agreed. The best 4 nil defeat day since we got done by Cardiff on the final home game of the season before the play offs and Leeds were fucking things up elsewhere.
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 25, 2023 18:15:21 GMT 1
We'd have to play them 10 times to get a result - everyone who has gone knows that. The players Burnley have available are simply better quality than ours, and have had their way of working drilled into them all season. Of course we didn't set out to purposely lose, its simply that we are shit (comparatively) - there's not really much that can be done about that. Burnley's whole team cost A FRACTION of the money that Hoyle spent - a FRACTION. They also brought in Kompany, whilst we saved money by bringing in Schofield, oh and then Fotheringham. You couldn't make it up... their player recruitment has ben excellent. Were one of ..well everyone else,, who would love to have matched it. Burnley sold ÂŁ70m worth of players last summer and get about ÂŁ50m in parachute payments this season ...that might have something to do with how they can afford Kompany whilst we have to save money on who we appoint.
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Post by goodbet on Feb 25, 2023 18:18:46 GMT 1
Seems weird saying this after a 4-0 defeat but its actually been a pretty good day. Weve got by far and away the toughest game of the fixture list out of the way and every team in the bottom 9 who played today has lost too, so we havent lost any ground on anyone. Strange but true, captain can't be wrong all of the time We did not play with our strongest team and against the strongest team in the league, we managed a shot on target. That is something that we went without against some of the poorer teams and we played the strongest team we had available. We have other teams to play on other days and we will play better. We just have to hope we get better results.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 25, 2023 18:20:38 GMT 1
I apologise for stupidly putting my own personal pride in my working life onto professional footballers and managers. I get annoyed but I know they will skive, cheat, give up and give away their own personal pride as long as they get paid and can write off doing nothing for very good pay with some baloney. Be honest, just tell the fans long before the game is being forfeited. If you get paid for putting the shirt on and appearing at Turf Moor then a lot of the support need appearance money. Had we forfeited on friday, a 3 0 loss and a fine would have saved some hard working fans some money and time. Please dont tell me again its a clever move by Colin, its 3 points lost whoever we were playing. We managed to worsen our goal difference and confidence isnt helped by being told you cant compete and you dont have to. Hoping that we get some points in other games does not fill me with confidence.. Its not losing, its how you lose that shows the attitude of the players and the management.
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Post by hxterrierhx on Feb 25, 2023 18:21:44 GMT 1
Burnley's whole team cost A FRACTION of the money that Hoyle spent - a FRACTION. They also brought in Kompany, whilst we saved money by bringing in Schofield, oh and then Fotheringham. You couldn't make it up... their player recruitment has ben excellent. Were one of ..well everyone else,, who would love to have matched it. Burnley sold ÂŁ70m worth of players last summer and get about ÂŁ50m in parachute payments this season ...that might have something to do with how they can afford Kompany whilst we have to save money on who we appoint. Save money on who we appoint....but in the long run spend more on coaches and managers due to the piss poor historical recruitment of them. Town board obviously don't believe in "proper planning prevents piss poor performance"
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Post by hxterrierhx on Feb 25, 2023 18:23:01 GMT 1
I apologise for stupidly putting my own personal pride in my working life onto professional footballers and managers. I get annoyed but I know they will skive, cheat, give up and give away their own personal pride as long as they get paid and can write off doing nothing for very good pay with some baloney. Be honest, just tell the fans long before the game is being forfeited. If you get paid for putting the shirt on and appearing at Turf Moor then a lot of the support need appearance money. Had we forfeited on friday, a 3 0 loss and a fine would have saved some hard working fans some money and time. Please dont tell me again its a clever move by Colin, its 3 points lost whoever we were playing. We managed to worsen our goal difference and confidence isnt helped by being told you cant compete and you dont have to. Hoping that we get some points in other games does not fill me with confidence.. Its not losing, its how you lose that shows the attitude of the players and the management. I reckon you've gone through the motions at least once in your career.
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Post by detox on Feb 25, 2023 18:28:31 GMT 1
No real harm done,all the bottom 8 who were playing lost today The great escape starts now
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Post by wigster on Feb 25, 2023 18:28:56 GMT 1
Burnley's whole team cost A FRACTION of the money that Hoyle spent - a FRACTION. They also brought in Kompany, whilst we saved money by bringing in Schofield, oh and then Fotheringham. You couldn't make it up... their player recruitment has ben excellent. Were one of ..well everyone else,, who would love to have matched it. Burnley sold ÂŁ70m worth of players last summer and get about ÂŁ50m in parachute payments this season ...that might have something to do with how they can afford Kompany whilst we have to save money on who we appoint. Why do we have to save money Captain ? We both know why, and why we are a shambles. Sorry, I've raised the usual anti-Hoyle entitlement point, but I live in Burnley and all week my friends/neighbours/colleagues have been saying "surely you can't be that bad?" I've only just got home but the two neighbours across the road, both middle-aged "sensible" Burnley supporters, independently described us as the worst team they have seen at Turf Moor. It bloody hurts.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 25, 2023 18:29:26 GMT 1
I apologise for stupidly putting my own personal pride in my working life onto professional footballers and managers. I get annoyed but I know they will skive, cheat, give up and give away their own personal pride as long as they get paid and can write off doing nothing for very good pay with some baloney. Be honest, just tell the fans long before the game is being forfeited. If you get paid for putting the shirt on and appearing at Turf Moor then a lot of the support need appearance money. Had we forfeited on friday, a 3 0 loss and a fine would have saved some hard working fans some money and time. Please dont tell me again its a clever move by Colin, its 3 points lost whoever we were playing. We managed to worsen our goal difference and confidence isnt helped by being told you cant compete and you dont have to. Hoping that we get some points in other games does not fill me with confidence.. Its not losing, its how you lose that shows the attitude of the players and the management. I reckon you've gone through the motions at least once in your career. Swimming in the Colne?
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Post by hthp on Feb 25, 2023 18:32:08 GMT 1
I think League Two is generous. I think you're both being very harsh. Ask any Rotherham fan about him. They went up automatic from League One last season, conceding 10 less goals than any other team. And he was their best defender. Not worked out for him this season but don't be ridiculous. I assume you watched him today?
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Post by shawsie on Feb 25, 2023 18:32:14 GMT 1
Burnley's whole team cost A FRACTION of the money that Hoyle spent - a FRACTION. They also brought in Kompany, whilst we saved money by bringing in Schofield, oh and then Fotheringham. You couldn't make it up... their player recruitment has ben excellent. Were one of ..well everyone else,, who would love to have matched it. Burnley sold ÂŁ70m worth of players last summer and get about ÂŁ50m in parachute payments this season ...that might have something to do with how they can afford Kompany whilst we have to save money on who we appoint. Capt - weve spunked millions on changes of manager and an appallingly structured exit of DH which has hampered us big time. That allied to recruitment which could best be described as mediocre and its no surprise we are where we are. The likes of rudoni, kasumu, boyle, mahoney wouldnt get in burnleys youth team.
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Post by goodbet on Feb 25, 2023 18:36:40 GMT 1
their player recruitment has ben excellent. Were one of ..well everyone else,, who would love to have matched it. Burnley sold ÂŁ70m worth of players last summer and get about ÂŁ50m in parachute payments this season ...that might have something to do with how they can afford Kompany whilst we have to save money on who we appoint. Save money on who we appoint....but in the long run spend more on coaches and managers due to the piss poor historical recruitment of them. Town board obviously don't believe in "proper planning prevents piss poor performance" Trying to both save money and taking another gambol on untried coaches seems to have ended up penny wise and pound foolish. If we do end up going down we will suffer from more penny wise and pound foolish investment in the summer and January windows. Getting in numbers above quality.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 25, 2023 18:39:18 GMT 1
Seems weird saying this after a 4-0 defeat but its actually been a pretty good day. Weve got by far and away the toughest game of the fixture list out of the way and every team in the bottom 9 who played today has lost too, so we havent lost any ground on anyone. Wigan, Blackpool, Rotherham and Cardiff still have Burnley to play. Glad we've got it out of the way.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 25, 2023 18:40:15 GMT 1
I apologise for stupidly putting my own personal pride in my working life onto professional footballers and managers. I get annoyed but I know they will skive, cheat, give up and give away their own personal pride as long as they get paid and can write off doing nothing for very good pay with some baloney. Be honest, just tell the fans long before the game is being forfeited. If you get paid for putting the shirt on and appearing at Turf Moor then a lot of the support need appearance money. Had we forfeited on friday, a 3 0 loss and a fine would have saved some hard working fans some money and time. Please dont tell me again its a clever move by Colin, its 3 points lost whoever we were playing. We managed to worsen our goal difference and confidence isnt helped by being told you cant compete and you dont have to. Hoping that we get some points in other games does not fill me with confidence.. Its not losing, its how you lose that shows the attitude of the players and the management. I reckon you've gone through the motions at least once in your career. We have 14 games left, the motions have been 'gone through' to some fucking tune this season already. I never had folk travelling and paying to watch me work and on 'live match days' anyone going through the motions got themselves or worse someone else japped.. Today was a professional football match that we gave away, I dont accept that it had to be that way and that its better for us. Hoping everyone else loses so it does not look as bad isnt great leadership, its just hope. Its only football in the end if you can fuck up playing a game then your probably better off being in a job that does not matter???
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Post by hxterrierhx on Feb 25, 2023 18:41:18 GMT 1
Save money on who we appoint....but in the long run spend more on coaches and managers due to the piss poor historical recruitment of them. Town board obviously don't believe in "proper planning prevents piss poor performance" Trying to both save money and taking another gambol on untried coaches seems to have ended up penny wise and pound foolish. If we do end up going down we will suffer from more penny wise and pound foolish investment in the summer and January windows. Getting in numbers above quality. I’ve already decided if we do go down, my season ticket renewal is solely based on what head coach / manager we bring in. I’m not spending my hard earned to watch some no mark cut his teeth in English football and ultimately fail.
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Post by duncfost01 on Feb 25, 2023 18:42:08 GMT 1
Turned it off at 4-0.
Thoughts. I felt Bilo was at fault for the first goal, possibly the third as he was just routed to his line.
Kasumu was poor.
Headley is better going forward.
We didn’t pass once to Hungbo in space.
The only thing I liked about that was Warnock’s post match conference.
“We owe them now”.
You can guarantee the players will 100% know that.
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Post by yorkie69 on Feb 25, 2023 18:43:54 GMT 1
their player recruitment has ben excellent. Were one of ..well everyone else,, who would love to have matched it. Burnley sold £70m worth of players last summer and get about £50m in parachute payments this season ...that might have something to do with how they can afford Kompany whilst we have to save money on who we appoint. Capt - weve spunked millions on changes of manager and an appallingly structured exit of DH which has hampered us big time. That allied to recruitment which could best be described as mediocre and its no surprise we are where we are. The likes of rudoni, kasumu, boyle, mahoney wouldnt get in burnleys youth team. They most surely wouldn’t as they are too old!!
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