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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 26, 2023 8:56:16 GMT 1
Spot on Shawsie.
We're down to chips wi bits. Not even a drop of gravy to get things moving.
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 26, 2023 9:56:42 GMT 1
Today reminded me of how weve treated the FA cup for years now. rest a few players.. dont risk anyone with anything resembling a knock..just get the game out of the way , try not to get injured, and move on to more important fixtures. Warnock pretty much said that was how we were treating this game so I thought we might be spared the standard lashing out we get after a defeat this time. Whilst i get the "plan" its a pretty sad reflection on the club is it not? The meek in cup games has stopped me going to them anymore - we are all supporters of the club but if id paid 25-30 quid id want a bit more of a competitive effort against a team in the same division. Or is that asking too much? Clearly they are a good side - the best in the league but Miwaw and Watford at least gave them a game. Its pragmatism... a 'sad reflection' of the position we're in this season.. If taking the approach we did gives us a better chance in upcoming games against much more beatable appoints then its worth doing. the club didnt exactly hide the approach they were talking to this game so anyone who spent their money to go must have known that would be how it would be.
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Post by workshyfop on Feb 26, 2023 10:20:41 GMT 1
Possibly because, after all his businesses collapsed, he is "potless"? Strange how he comes out of this with no abuse directed at him... Because DH approached him. Everyone knew or suspected he didn’t have the money to run a Championship football club (and that’s before Covid hit his businesses), but he was a convenient stooge for Hoyle to get money out of the club as it wasn’t worth what he wanted had he just tried to sell it. PH isn’t blameless, but he should never have had the chance to run the club in the first place. Where was the due diligence? Just an inconvenience.
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Post by benhomly on Feb 26, 2023 10:24:48 GMT 1
To say the manager will potentially concede over 100 goals a season because we’ve conceded 5 in 2 games is one of the most ludicrous things I’ve ever read on here. Did you come on last week and say we will potentially get 138 points in a season when we beat Birmingham? Because it’s exactly the same logic. He is being sarcastic Seems to be his thing Considering his age he's one of the strangest posters on here. Unless he's being sarcastic about that as well.
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 26, 2023 10:35:34 GMT 1
Strange how he comes out of this with no abuse directed at him... Because DH approached him. Everyone knew or suspected he didn’t have the money to run a Championship football club (and that’s before Covid hit his businesses), but he was a convenient stooge for Hoyle to get money out of the club as it wasn’t worth what he wanted had he just tried to sell it. PH isn’t blameless, but he should never have had the chance to run the club in the first place. Where was the due diligence? Just an inconvenience. He would have had the money to run a championship club, had he had the opportunity to take his wealth out of his businesses...just as Hoyle did in 2008 after he'd taken over the club. If Hoyle just wanted his money back he'd have sold it to the other interested parties who would have given him it all back there and then. If youre going to endlessly bleat and moan about it, at least take into account what actually went on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 10:40:22 GMT 1
Week after week this site gets more and more negative towards town. FFS either get down to the Coventry and Bristol games (if you can) or just keep quiet. I appreciate things are not good under Warnock but you would think we were 10 points from safety we 4 games left. I agree. Fans have thrown the towel in already when we have just played the best team this league will see for a long time. Warnock always said that it was a free hit, you could tell he genuinely didn't give a shit about today. He probably said Whatever you do don't get injured and that's probably the extent of his team talk. Against the next two teams he will have them absolutely fired up. Folk need to stop the negative shit though. We brought Warnock in, the players aren't good enough but if anyone can get a tune out of them it's him. Just have faith there is a plan No they haven't. The moaners on here have. The fans who went to Burnley and applauded the team at the end haven't and the fans at the Birmingham game hadn't. Also why does every thread, this is not aimed at this poster, end up with a Hoyle and/or Hodgkinson rant? Going over the same old stuff than has been done to death. Can't folk just drop that now? It is what it is and the only thing that matters is the next 13 games.
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Post by space hardware on Feb 26, 2023 10:42:50 GMT 1
Because DH approached him. Everyone knew or suspected he didn’t have the money to run a Championship football club (and that’s before Covid hit his businesses), but he was a convenient stooge for Hoyle to get money out of the club as it wasn’t worth what he wanted had he just tried to sell it. PH isn’t blameless, but he should never have had the chance to run the club in the first place. Where was the due diligence? Just an inconvenience. He would have had the money to run a championship club, had he had the opportunity to take his wealth out of his businesses...just as Hoyle did in 2008 after he'd taken over the club. If Hoyle just wanted his money back he'd have sold it to the other interested parties who would have given him it all back there and then. If youre going to endlessly bleat and moan about it, at least take into account what actually went on. Ah yes, a man who famously didn't have the poke to run Southport properly was going to magic up millions of pounds out of his many financially robust companies. Jesus Christ
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Feb 26, 2023 10:43:01 GMT 1
Haven’t read the whole thread but it’s quite sad how we are ok letting teams shaft us because they are top of the league. I’m tired of us not turning up for games against teams much higher in the league, or home bankers. Burnley, Bournemouth, Norwich come to mind. It’s a total lack of respect to the fans. The Burnley lad on here openly admitted the toughest games this season were Blackpool and Rotherham. But Huddersfield come over and just bend over. Poor do.
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Post by Macduff on Feb 26, 2023 10:53:04 GMT 1
Haven’t read the whole thread but it’s quite sad how we are ok letting teams shaft us because they are top of the league. I’m tired of us not turning up for games against teams much higher in the league, or home bankers. Burnley, Bournemouth, Norwich come to mind. It’s a total lack of respect to the fans. The Burnley lad on here openly admitted the toughest games this season were Blackpool and Rotherham. But Huddersfield come over and just bend over. Poor do. And it puts more pressure on the team for the two games coming up. In our position you cant pick and choose the games you try to win, that's how you end up in League 1.
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 26, 2023 10:53:36 GMT 1
Because DH approached him. Everyone knew or suspected he didn’t have the money to run a Championship football club (and that’s before Covid hit his businesses), but he was a convenient stooge for Hoyle to get money out of the club as it wasn’t worth what he wanted had he just tried to sell it. PH isn’t blameless, but he should never have had the chance to run the club in the first place. Where was the due diligence? Just an inconvenience. He would have had the money to run a championship club, had he had the opportunity to take his wealth out of his businesses...just as Hoyle did in 2008 after he'd taken over the club. If Hoyle just wanted his money back he'd have sold it to the other interested parties who would have given him it all back there and then. If youre going to endlessly bleat and moan about it, at least take into account what actually went on. You omitted the 'entitled' part.
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Post by turbo2 on Feb 26, 2023 10:54:20 GMT 1
Haven’t read the whole thread but it’s quite sad how we are ok letting teams shaft us because they are top of the league. I’m tired of us not turning up for games against teams much higher in the league, or home bankers. Burnley, Bournemouth, Norwich come to mind. It’s a total lack of respect to the fans. The Burnley lad on here openly admitted the toughest games this season were Blackpool and Rotherham. But Huddersfield come over and just bend over. Poor do. I’d be annoyed if I’d paid good money to travel. When we threw that Bournemouth game I thought it was disgraceful. Anyone would think it was Real Madrid we were playing yesterday.
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Post by drewden on Feb 26, 2023 11:05:01 GMT 1
Haven’t read the whole thread but it’s quite sad how we are ok letting teams shaft us because they are top of the league. I’m tired of us not turning up for games against teams much higher in the league, or home bankers. Burnley, Bournemouth, Norwich come to mind. It’s a total lack of respect to the fans. The Burnley lad on here openly admitted the toughest games this season were Blackpool and Rotherham. But Huddersfield come over and just bend over. Poor do. We are running out of time, and the focus and trust has to be with Warnock, if he keeps us up everything will be rosy, if he fails then there will be a lot of ifs and buts, a lot of decisions and pressure comes with the job.
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 26, 2023 11:06:58 GMT 1
Haven’t read the whole thread but it’s quite sad how we are ok letting teams shaft us because they are top of the league. I’m tired of us not turning up for games against teams much higher in the league, or home bankers. Burnley, Bournemouth, Norwich come to mind. It’s a total lack of respect to the fans. The Burnley lad on here openly admitted the toughest games this season were Blackpool and Rotherham. But Huddersfield come over and just bend over. Poor do. I’d be annoyed if I’d paid good money to travel. When we threw that Bournemouth game I thought it was disgraceful. Anyone would think it was Real Madrid we were playing yesterday. The way they passed us off the park I thought it was Real Madrid.
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Post by nicovaesen on Feb 26, 2023 11:18:07 GMT 1
Games like yesterday made me think of how far we’ve fallen and the shit we are really in. Don’t get me wrong I’ll be there next week cheering the lads on but what about the fans who make the effort to go to away games? Yes their decision admittedly but, if we “throw” those games should the fans do that too? I thought NW pressers were in jest and not actual fact. I watched the whole game and it stank of the latter. I understand the “plan” but it still dosent make me feel any better. I want us to be competitive in every game. I genuinely thought last season would be the norm when we got to the greedy league. Working with Luton and coventry fans how they’re laughing now. Imagine having our mentality when they were at the bottom of the football pyramid just a few seasons ago.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Feb 26, 2023 11:19:33 GMT 1
Because DH approached him. Everyone knew or suspected he didn’t have the money to run a Championship football club (and that’s before Covid hit his businesses), but he was a convenient stooge for Hoyle to get money out of the club as it wasn’t worth what he wanted had he just tried to sell it. PH isn’t blameless, but he should never have had the chance to run the club in the first place. Where was the due diligence? Just an inconvenience. He would have had the money to run a championship club, had he had the opportunity to take his wealth out of his businesses...just as Hoyle did in 2008 after he'd taken over the club. If Hoyle just wanted his money back he'd have sold it to the other interested parties who would have given him it all back there and then.If youre going to endlessly bleat and moan about it, at least take into account what actually went on. Do you know for a fact that any other potential owners were willing to clear the full debt?
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Post by drewden on Feb 26, 2023 11:22:57 GMT 1
He would have had the money to run a championship club, had he had the opportunity to take his wealth out of his businesses...just as Hoyle did in 2008 after he'd taken over the club. If Hoyle just wanted his money back he'd have sold it to the other interested parties who would have given him it all back there and then.If youre going to endlessly bleat and moan about it, at least take into account what actually went on. Do you know for a fact that any other potential owners were willing to clear the full debt? Good point.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 26, 2023 11:32:17 GMT 1
I don’t get this rolling over thing. Sometimes the opposition just click for 90 mins and you’re chasing shadows. I remember that game v Brighton in the 16/17 season, it was a superb display and we should arguably have won by more than the 3-1 we did.
If you’re in their position, with so much slack to play with, the mindset it affords them is an absolute luxury, a million miles from where our mindset has been for most of the season, and will be until the last ball is kicked v Reading.
We got tonked by a good side playing with absolute freedom and zero baggage in their heads. We move on, and thankfully won’t come up against a team in that frame of mind again.
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Post by workshyfop on Feb 26, 2023 11:36:14 GMT 1
I’m just hoping Burnley aren’t mathematically promoted or champions by the time they play our fellow strugglers otherwise they might be “on the beach”.
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Post by hthp on Feb 26, 2023 11:36:43 GMT 1
Strange how he comes out of this with no abuse directed at him... Because DH approached him. Everyone knew or suspected he didn’t have the money to run a Championship football club (and that’s before Covid hit his businesses), but he was a convenient stooge for Hoyle to get money out of the club as it wasn’t worth what he wanted had he just tried to sell it. PH isn’t blameless, but he should never have had the chance to run the club in the first place. Where was the due diligence? Just an inconvenience. Why didn't Hodgkinson say no? If I sell you a car that you can't afford to run, is that my fault or is it your fault for knowing in the first place that you haven't got the money?
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Post by hthp on Feb 26, 2023 11:38:33 GMT 1
He would have had the money to run a championship club, had he had the opportunity to take his wealth out of his businesses...just as Hoyle did in 2008 after he'd taken over the club. If Hoyle just wanted his money back he'd have sold it to the other interested parties who would have given him it all back there and then. If youre going to endlessly bleat and moan about it, at least take into account what actually went on. Ah yes, a man who famously didn't have the poke to run Southport properly was going to magic up millions of pounds out of his many financially robust companies. Jesus Christ The best chairman we've had according to some on here.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Feb 26, 2023 11:39:59 GMT 1
Because DH approached him. Everyone knew or suspected he didn’t have the money to run a Championship football club (and that’s before Covid hit his businesses), but he was a convenient stooge for Hoyle to get money out of the club as it wasn’t worth what he wanted had he just tried to sell it. PH isn’t blameless, but he should never have had the chance to run the club in the first place. Where was the due diligence? Just an inconvenience. Why didn't Hodgkinson say no? If I sell you a car that you can't afford to run, is that my fault or is it your fault for knowing in the first place that you haven't got the money? Maybe that used car salesman made a very convincing offer, made it seem like it was possible to own the car
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 26, 2023 11:46:09 GMT 1
He would have had the money to run a championship club, had he had the opportunity to take his wealth out of his businesses...just as Hoyle did in 2008 after he'd taken over the club. If Hoyle just wanted his money back he'd have sold it to the other interested parties who would have given him it all back there and then. If youre going to endlessly bleat and moan about it, at least take into account what actually went on. Ah yes, a man who famously didn't have the poke to run Southport properly was going to magic up millions of pounds out of his many financially robust companies. Jesus Christ Actually yes. Thats what he would have done. Not magic money up...he didnt have the patented DATM magic money tree to do that.. just sell his businesses which at the time were extremely valuable. It didnt pan out like that. How unfair life is for us fans. And didnt he put a lot of money into Southport for that level of football? I seem to remember ÂŁ2m being mentioned.
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Post by boooothy on Feb 26, 2023 11:51:51 GMT 1
Good day for us if you ask me. All the teams we are competing against had easier games than us and we all got the same points. Despite what DATM tells you Chicho was never up to been head coach and Bilo was never capable of been goalkeeper in a relegation battle. Both have been proved now, let’s get on with winning some games. 'being', not 'been', and 'proven', not 'proved'. Cheers Grandad
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Post by hthp on Feb 26, 2023 11:53:11 GMT 1
Why didn't Hodgkinson say no? If I sell you a car that you can't afford to run, is that my fault or is it your fault for knowing in the first place that you haven't got the money? Maybe that used car salesman made a very convincing offer, made it seem like it was possible to own the car Hodgkinson never did come across as very bright. Thank God he no longer has any involvement with Huddersfield Town. The bloke was and is an absolute embarrassment.
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 26, 2023 12:06:28 GMT 1
previously banned poster starting bad faith arguments left right and centre again, good stuff
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Post by townian on Feb 26, 2023 12:07:21 GMT 1
Maybe that used car salesman made a very convincing offer, made it seem like it was possible to own the car Hodgkinson never did come across as very bright. Thank God he no longer has any involvement with Huddersfield Town. The bloke was and is an absolute embarrassment. He still owns the club. That’s the problem and has been for three and a half years.
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Post by stinkypete on Feb 26, 2023 12:16:18 GMT 1
Although we got pumped yesterday I think that’s the best outcome we could’ve hoped for, nobody else won or even drew so we’ve got our toughest game outof the way with no damage done! Rotherham losing on Monday will be a decent weekend. However I do think we have to win both of these upcoming home games, 4 points absolute minimum!
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Post by workshyfop on Feb 26, 2023 12:31:58 GMT 1
Because DH approached him. Everyone knew or suspected he didn’t have the money to run a Championship football club (and that’s before Covid hit his businesses), but he was a convenient stooge for Hoyle to get money out of the club as it wasn’t worth what he wanted had he just tried to sell it. PH isn’t blameless, but he should never have had the chance to run the club in the first place. Where was the due diligence? Just an inconvenience. Why didn't Hodgkinson say no? If I sell you a car that you can't afford to run, is that my fault or is it your fault for knowing in the first place that you haven't got the money? If you’re claiming to be the custodian of the car and want to ensure it’s run properly in future, then yes you have to take part of the blame.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 26, 2023 13:25:44 GMT 1
Although we got pumped yesterday I think that’s the best outcome we could’ve hoped for, nobody else won or even drew so we’ve got our toughest game outof the way with no damage done! Rotherham losing on Monday will be a decent weekend. However I do think we have to win both of these upcoming home games, 4 points absolute minimum! How is our goal difference increasing by 4 a good outcome in the midst of a relaxation battle? Genuine question?
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Post by turbo2 on Feb 26, 2023 13:30:34 GMT 1
I’d be annoyed if I’d paid good money to travel. When we threw that Bournemouth game I thought it was disgraceful. Anyone would think it was Real Madrid we were playing yesterday. The way they passed us off the park I thought it was Real Madrid. First game I’ve not either attended or watched on a stream in years Was busy decorating and laying flooring Seen the highlights and it looks like they just passed straight through us. Were they brilliant or were we rubbish or both??
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