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Post by Big Ern on Apr 26, 2023 20:53:12 GMT 1
Kamberi like the others, if calsberg did football agents come to mind. You can't help but think that our scouting network must be pants to have given jobbers like him a contract. How did we sign so many players in January only for them to never play? Heads should roll
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 26, 2023 20:54:38 GMT 1
Kamberi like the others, if calsberg did football agents come to mind. You can't help but think that our scouting network must be pants to have given jobbers like him a contract. How did we sign so many players in January only for them to never play? Heads should roll you would asume when the takeover is confirmed, that a full root and branch clear out follows.
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Post by rockwall on Apr 26, 2023 20:56:57 GMT 1
Kamberi like the others, if calsberg did football agents come to mind. You can't help but think that our scouting network must be pants to have given jobbers like him a contract. How did we sign so many players in January only for them to never play? Heads should roll Best goals per minute ratio......
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 26, 2023 20:59:08 GMT 1
You can't help but think that our scouting network must be pants to have given jobbers like him a contract. How did we sign so many players in January only for them to never play? Heads should roll you would asume when the takeover is confirmed, that a full root and branch clear out follows. Just hope it happens in this division!
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Post by foxtrot666 on Apr 27, 2023 8:29:51 GMT 1
Kamberi like the others, if calsberg did football agents come to mind. You can't help but think that our scouting network must be pants to have given jobbers like him a contract. How did we sign so many players in January only for them to never play? Heads should roll Obviously he won't say anything until he leaves but I can't wait to hear what Warnock REALLY thinks of our January recruitment.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 27, 2023 9:17:27 GMT 1
That's a very low bar and to be fair, my nana could have scored one of them and she died 20+ years ago 😗. I understand your point, but its fair to say the January signings just compounded the failure in the summer. I personally couldn't say any of them have improved us .Vaclik? (Improved vs relying on a kid, rather than improved us vs Nicholls, obvs.) Vaclik was a bloody good signing IMO, and if we lose Nicholls in the summer then I would not be at all averse to bringing him back. The rest.... yeah. Unless you count bringing people back from loans (e.g. Koroma, Headley) then I'm struggling to think of one.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 27, 2023 9:21:46 GMT 1
Jason Smith - goalkeeper from Forest. Boyle. Warnock remarked early on - clapped the fans after being sent off at stoke…. Clearly wasn’t impressed. Fotheringham should have gone before all those signings. Poor Dean has obviously paid for all of that. As somebody who slagged him off on here I feel guilty now I know the truth. Aarons, Boyle, Knockaert, Mahoney, Smith… Most of those were here before Mark Fotheringham. Essentially what you're saying is that we should have sacked him 18 months before we appointed him. Given how shit he was, I'm inclined to agree.
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Post by rockwall on Apr 27, 2023 19:31:37 GMT 1
Jason Smith - goalkeeper from Forest. Boyle. Warnock remarked early on - clapped the fans after being sent off at stoke…. Clearly wasn’t impressed. Fotheringham should have gone before all those signings. Poor Dean has obviously paid for all of that. As somebody who slagged him off on here I feel guilty now I know the truth. Aarons, Boyle, Knockaert, Mahoney, Smith… Most of those were here before Mark Fotheringham. Essentially what you're saying is that we should have sacked him 18 months before we appointed him. Given how shit he was, I'm inclined to agree. Knockaert and Smith were signed in Jan... Another point would be that a majority of our summer signings like Mahoney were actually CC. DS I think only brought in KKH, Helik and Mbete.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Apr 28, 2023 7:17:57 GMT 1
Aarons, Boyle, Knockaert, Mahoney, Smith… Most of those were here before Mark Fotheringham. Essentially what you're saying is that we should have sacked him 18 months before we appointed him. Given how shit he was, I'm inclined to agree. Knockaert and Smith were signed in Jan... Another point would be that a majority of our summer signings like Mahoney were actually CC. DS I think only brought in KKH, Helik and Mbete. They’re all Bromby signings. As we know from Sorba and Nicholls last season. He’s been a bit quieter this year 🤔
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Post by midlander on Apr 28, 2023 9:53:45 GMT 1
They are all signings we made based on having to cut the wage bill even further. Yes, Bromby made some howlers, but equally,he was fishing in a desert with the funds available. Nakayma may have been successful if not injured, but Helik has been the only addition which has been a strengthening. And, he was only signed as a last resort, out of desperation. If we had started the season semi-positively, I doubt we would have gone in for him.
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Post by goodbet on Apr 29, 2023 11:35:50 GMT 1
They are all signings we made based on having to cut the wage bill even further. Yes, Bromby made some howlers, but equally,he was fishing in a desert with the funds available. Nakayma may have been successful if not injured, but Helik has been the only addition which has been a strengthening. And, he was only signed as a last resort, out of desperation. If we had started the season semi-positively, I doubt we would have gone in for him. We got ourselves in to a position where Dean wanted to sell and decided he could cut the squad strength, but still stay in the Championship. It seems that we have wasted a lot of money signing dross that have not helped and I can only guess that he sold the club for a vastly reduced amount as we were on the brink of League 1. How much more would the club have been worth had he managed to get a squad together that was challenging for promotion like last season? We will never know and I guess has left Dean wandering what might have been had he got more of his money back.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 2, 2023 10:37:55 GMT 1
Would we have been safely mid table by now, had we not lost Nakayama, Turton & Tino?
I think we’ve had a difficult season injury wise, but it’s given us the opportunity to field a v young side in most games, which bodes well for the future.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on May 2, 2023 14:10:29 GMT 1
Would we have been safely mid table by now, had we not lost Nakayama, Turton & Tino? I think we’ve had a difficult season injury wise, but it’s given us the opportunity to field a v young side in most games, which bodes well for the future. I think this is a good shout.
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Post by crux on May 2, 2023 16:18:58 GMT 1
Would we have been safely mid table by now, had we not lost Nakayama, Turton & Tino? I think we’ve had a difficult season injury wise, but it’s given us the opportunity to field a v young side in most games, which bodes well for the future. I think we've discovered: A. We haven't got another right back (Pearson is currently playing there) B. We haven't really got another left back (Ruffles is playing as well as he possibly can, helped out by having Headley playing as an auxiliary left back in front of him - and Headley is the better player, but not quite ready yet. C. Tino is injury prone and may never make it at a decent level now 😕
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Post by tepidterrier on May 2, 2023 16:38:43 GMT 1
Would we have been safely mid table by now, had we not lost Nakayama, Turton & Tino? I think we’ve had a difficult season injury wise, but it’s given us the opportunity to field a v young side in most games, which bodes well for the future. I wasn't too sold on Nakayama, showed quality in flashes but some quite basic errors. I'm sure he'd have done great under Warnock though. Turton likewise. As is often the case with players as explosive as Tino, their bodies can't handle it. I can see him going the way of another certain Chelsea loanee attacking midfielder we had a few years ago. Those goals against West Brom were great though, and the bit where he came off the bench on the opening day and was the only one who looked arsed
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 2, 2023 16:54:11 GMT 1
Would we have been safely mid table by now, had we not lost Nakayama, Turton & Tino? I think we’ve had a difficult season injury wise, but it’s given us the opportunity to field a v young side in most games, which bodes well for the future. I wasn't too sold on Nakayama, showed quality in flashes but some quite basic errors. I'm sure he'd have done great under Warnock though. Turton likewise. As is often the case with players as explosive as Tino, their bodies can't handle it. I can see him going the way of another certain Chelsea loanee attacking midfielder we had a few years ago. Those goals against West Brom were great though, and the bit where he came off the bench on the opening day and was the only one who looked arsed I think Nakayama has been unfairly rated but many. New club, new country, new league and on top of all of that playing for an inexperienced coach in an atmosphere of chaos. He’s an International footballer who deserves the opportunity to push on with us.
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Post by tepidterrier on May 2, 2023 17:27:44 GMT 1
I wasn't too sold on Nakayama, showed quality in flashes but some quite basic errors. I'm sure he'd have done great under Warnock though. Turton likewise. As is often the case with players as explosive as Tino, their bodies can't handle it. I can see him going the way of another certain Chelsea loanee attacking midfielder we had a few years ago. Those goals against West Brom were great though, and the bit where he came off the bench on the opening day and was the only one who looked arsed I think Nakayama has been unfairly rated but many. New club, new country, new league and on top of all of that playing for an inexperienced coach in an atmosphere of chaos. He’s an International footballer who deserves the opportunity to push on with us. agree completely. I'm sure he'd have grown into the season as it went on and been buoyed by being part of Japan's great world cup campaign as well. Hopefully he's recovered and playing for us next season
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 2, 2023 17:36:43 GMT 1
a back 4 / 5 of turton,pearson,lees,helik and Nakayma or
Turton pearson,helik, nayakama
would be nowhere near the bottom three it looks very solid to me for sure.
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Post by frankslegs on May 2, 2023 18:58:25 GMT 1
A lot of good points on here Atlantis made the best one but I would add to this that Rudoni in particular and Kasuma will cover all the costs of some quite awful panic contract mistakes.Hungbo is not one of them. And in Jackson,Kamara Headley we have some young lads blooded in a tough year who surely will step up next year. Ps - I do like Headley and Hungbo after match interviews - good lads.
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Post by ruggedivy on May 2, 2023 19:13:51 GMT 1
Would we have been safely mid table by now, had we not lost Nakayama, Turton & Tino? I think we’ve had a difficult season injury wise, but it’s given us the opportunity to field a v young side in most games, which bodes well for the future. I think we've discovered: A. We haven't got another right back (Pearson is currently playing there) B. We haven't really got another left back (Ruffles is playing as well as he possibly can, helped out by having Headley playing as an auxiliary left back in front of him - and Headley is the better player, but not quite ready yet. C. Tino is injury prone and may never make it at a decent level now 😕 I wouldn't be surprised if Tino ends up having a similar career as Izzy Brown. Poor lad doesn't seem to have the physical capabilities to sustain regular first team football
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Post by jim59 on May 2, 2023 20:11:19 GMT 1
If we stay up we need to get some real championship standard players. This season has shown what bargain basement shopping causes.
Ok weve picked up a couple of diamonds historically but repeating thevtrick gets ever harder.
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