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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 17, 2023 18:53:45 GMT 1
Why try and offload Yuta ? He can play 2 positions and gives us a left sided CB rather than playing someone on their wrong side. I felt he looked out of position at left back - I’d rather see Headley get more time there. At centre back he seemed to be settling in more just before injury but he didn’t stand out as much as I had hoped/expected. No one “stood out “ in the entire team at that stage in the season. Even Nicholls struggled under that regime. |
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Post by rockwall on May 17, 2023 19:28:26 GMT 1
Better than REG? On what basis do you think that? One has played in Lg2 the other has made 100 appearances at Lg1 and Championship. Based on watching them both with my eyes 🤷♂️ Maybe go get them checked. |
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Post by dezzly on May 17, 2023 19:29:26 GMT 1
I felt he looked out of position at left back - I’d rather see Headley get more time there. At centre back he seemed to be settling in more just before injury but he didn’t stand out as much as I had hoped/expected. No one “stood out “ in the entire team at that stage in the season. Even Nicholls struggled under that regime. Agree there everyone was struggling as the whole side just wasn’t functioning.I personally never agreed with the sorba wasn’t trying stuff just thought he was in a team that wasn’t playing well.at champ level they’re aren’t many who can literally drag a team to be better,we had a couple last season in o brien and in a lesser stated way,Colwill.given that Jackson and headley are more wing back types by the looks it would mean yuta could play left of a 3,which for me probably suits him more than left back or in a back 2.We also have the option of ruffels if given another contract,I feel warnock may have seen to that.Suppose it’s options.it’s probably the right hand side for me,Pearson did well but he’s by no means a right back really.reg an option right of a 3 but is he ready?but with spencer also most likely not ready do we have a right back or right wing back probably not.(can’t imagine seeing turton anytime soon) |
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Post by mosher on May 18, 2023 8:55:05 GMT 1
Thought Yuta was on a 3 year contract when he signed? I'd agree with Porroh and Overton. IMO he'd just started to look a more than decent player when he got injured. And to judge him based purely on his performances under Buzz and Danny is madness, based on those performances alone EVERYONE should have their contracts ripped up  |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 10:24:31 GMT 1
Thought Yuta was on a 3 year contract when he signed? I'd agree with Porroh and Overton. IMO he'd just started to look a more than decent player when he got injured. And to judge him based purely on his performances under Buzz and Danny is madness, based on those performances alone EVERYONE should have their contracts ripped up Pretty sure it was 2 years. Yuta given time under a good manager, I think, would be a decent centre back. He does play left back for Japan though I believe. Right back needed for me as well. Turton will be back but I'd like another option. May still be too early for Spencer, although Jackson has played on the right as well. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 18, 2023 10:29:54 GMT 1
Yuta was coming to a new country, new culture & what turned out to be a car crash of a club. Once he started getting used to the pace & physicality of the Championship, he was starting to show some real quality. I believe he'll be a massive asset, if fit & up for it next season.
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 18, 2023 10:33:40 GMT 1
I thought Yuta was just starting, to show his quailities when the injury happened. In flashes he has shown, that he clearly has something about him. I think under a settled gaffer , he could come good and be a really good either left sided centre half or full back . For example if we played a fluid system like CC did , he could be a great left sided centre half/ full back.
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Post by mosher on May 18, 2023 10:40:13 GMT 1
Thought Yuta was on a 3 year contract when he signed? I'd agree with Porroh and Overton. IMO he'd just started to look a more than decent player when he got injured. And to judge him based purely on his performances under Buzz and Danny is madness, based on those performances alone EVERYONE should have their contracts ripped up Pretty sure it was 2 years. Yuta given time under a good manager, I think, would be a decent centre back. He does play left back for Japan though I believe. Right back needed for me as well. Turton will be back but I'd like another option. May still be too early for Spencer, although Jackson has played on the right as well. Was it two? I wasn't sure so you're probably right. TBH with all the other "options to extend" contracts we hear about nowadays I'm NEVER sure how long we've got a player for |
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Post by Floyds on May 18, 2023 10:41:36 GMT 1
Yuta is still under contract and has been injured for months, so doubt anyone would take him even if we wanted to offload him.
The only one we'd miss on the out of contract list is Koroma, but I doubt he'll be staying. Hopefully we can find someone to take Rhodes.
I would prioritise a left back, a midfielder who can dictate/control the play and a couple of Championship quality strikers.
If we can get a decent manager in who can get a tune out of Thomas as well as the above, then we should have enough to have a top half side.
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Post by Art Vandelay on May 18, 2023 10:51:32 GMT 1
Thought Yuta was on a 3 year contract when he signed? I'd agree with Porroh and Overton. IMO he'd just started to look a more than decent player when he got injured. And to judge him based purely on his performances under Buzz and Danny is madness, based on those performances alone EVERYONE should have their contracts ripped up Pretty sure it was 2 years. Yuta given time under a good manager, I think, would be a decent centre back. He does play left back for Japan though I believe. Right back needed for me as well. Turton will be back but I'd like another option. May still be too early for Spencer, although Jackson has played on the right as well. Turton is out until November. |
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Post by terriers2000 on May 18, 2023 10:59:58 GMT 1
Surely we find out today or tomorrow?
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Post by runner76 on May 18, 2023 11:09:58 GMT 1
more to the point when is the takeover confirmed and new manager coming in?!
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Post by colnevalleyblue on May 18, 2023 11:14:57 GMT 1
more to the point when is the takeover confirmed and new manager coming in?! Nagle said an announcement was close and hoped it would be coming in around 2 to 4 weeks. That was the day of the Reading game. He said he couldn't say anymore about it. Been informed that Nagle has had talks with Warnock before he went back to America and asked him to take the job until Nagle and his backroom team were more settled. No idea if Warnock has accepted or declined. |
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Post by portugalterrier on May 18, 2023 11:15:42 GMT 1
more to the point when is the takeover confirmed and new manager coming in?! When the EFL and FCA give there approval, I was told end of May hopefully. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 18, 2023 11:17:21 GMT 1
more to the point when is the takeover confirmed and new manager coming in?! When the EFL and FCA give there approval, I was told end of May hopefully. I asume things are going in the background, in terms of a manager appointment/ player recuritment - so that once the takeover is complete we are not behind? |
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Post by exberlinerterrier on May 18, 2023 11:29:46 GMT 1
more to the point when is the takeover confirmed and new manager coming in?! I don't think anyone knows yet. My guess is that plenty of unofficial conversations will have been taking place. If Kevin is to be the owner we hope him to be (a good one), then he will have his team ready to transition into their new roles at the club the minute the takeover is ratified. In that scenario, I would imagine that this means that they have very firm ideas about who they would like to appoint as the new head coach (to the point of it already being agreed), who might be in charge of recruitment, and so on. In a sense, it is a huge disadvantage that we didn't just have a relatively boring season of stability in the championship with a head coach who would stay put over the summer and into next season. We're getting a new owner (someone that we only really know from Twitter so far), and we'll need a new head coach, but there has also been speculation on a new director of football, a new recruitment manager, and someone who might revolutionise the club's marketing dept. How much Nagle changes this summer is up to him, I guess. The more I think about it, the more I wonder if allowing such people as Bromby or Baldwin to continue their work over the summer might work in the club's favour going into next season. I was really disappointed with his recruitment this season, but changing the personnel in every position straight away might create the sort of chaos we would ideally want to avoid. The point I've put in bold above has been on my mind for some time. Bromby did a poor job this season, both in terms of recruiting players and head coaches. I've no idea how much he had to say about Warnock's appointment, but we know that he definitely was responsible for Fotheringham and Schofield. For balance, he signed Helik and Rudoni, two of our better players over the course of the season. But this summer the club will change hands. It is not so simple as to say from one owner to the next, but from one vision to another. Change is needed, it's important to make the right changes in the right moments. Warnock doesn't want a full-time job as our coach - fair enough, so we move on. Would it make sense to offer Bromby another 6-12 months to act as a form of continuity in the inevitably turbulent months of a change of ownership? What does everyone think? If everything is not as far advanced as the ideal scenario I outlined about, then we might be scrambling to put together a coaching team and playing squad well into the summer months... all to our disadvantage at the start of next season. Edit: It's all so complex. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 12:09:06 GMT 1
more to the point when is the takeover confirmed and new manager coming in?! I don't think anyone knows yet. My guess is that plenty of unofficial conversations will have been taking place. If Kevin is to be the owner we hope him to be (a good one), then he will have his team ready to transition into their new roles at the club the minute the takeover is ratified. I was really disappointed with his recruitment this season, but changing the personnel in every position straight away might create the sort of chaos we would ideally want to avoid.
Would it make sense to offer Bromby another 6-12 months to act as a form of continuity in the inevitably turbulent months of a change of ownership? Edit: It's all so complex. Good post, and it is complex. Breaking it down there are 3 crucial areas. Club management, CEO, etc. Manager/Head Coach. With Warnock & Jepson the coaching staff had them playing ike promotion contenders so we have some good backroom coaching/fitness staff. Recruitment, which really needs the previous one filled if at all possible. Senior club management I think will be pretty advanced. Warnock in as transition means he gets to chose incoming/outgoing players. Not ideal if a new manager is coming in a month or so later and won't have pre-season with the players. If Kevin wants a non DOF structure that will be quite a change. The recruitment problem may not only be Bromby, it may be the brief he is given, e.g. young players at low cost to bring on and sell. If he was just building a team for promotion, with a better budget, it could be very different. So him staying may not be the issue many folks think. Having said that hiring Fotheringham, although that was part of the club model, may be a final nail for him. We are possibly losing 3 first team regulars. Are Headley & Jackson good enough for us to allow Ruffels to leave, given Yuta can play there as well? Without Hungbo & Koroma we will be very short of wide attacking players, both goal scorers as well, so that is an obvious, Thomas not withstanding. Also a first choice right back. I think Bilo should be a good backup keeper but may need a loan to get game time. Be a shame to get an older backup in as we have so many good young keepers at the club. As you said, there is a lot to decide in a short space of time. |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on May 18, 2023 12:27:41 GMT 1
I don't think it's complex at all. We wait until something is announced, then those who want their opinions to be heard will express opinions about the announcement. Meanwhile, we wait and see (happily)
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Post by rockwall on May 18, 2023 12:32:07 GMT 1
more to the point when is the takeover confirmed and new manager coming in?! When the EFL and FCA give there approval, I was told end of May hopefully. Just waiting on the FCA aren't we? EFL approved 2 weeks ago is my understanding. |
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Post by Tiro on May 18, 2023 13:37:28 GMT 1
When the EFL and FCA give there approval, I was told end of May hopefully. I asume things are going in the background, in terms of a manager appointment/ player recuritment - so that once the takeover is complete we are not behind? No. They’re all sat on their arses twiddling their thumbs because that would be the best thing to do for the club and their respective positions before a takeover. KN and his crew would prefer another season drilling their investment into the sand before they plan anything. |
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Post by H6dds on May 18, 2023 16:16:54 GMT 1
I don't think it's complex at all. We wait until something is announced, then those who want their opinions to be heard will express opinions about the announcement. Meanwhile, we wait and see (happily) you are like a bird that keeps hitting the window trying to fly through it. It must be self harming for you to come on here and read so many opinions and speculations every day, don’t know why you keep coming back for it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 16:18:41 GMT 1
Should see the list tomorrow. Takeover now really close and could even have some news in a matter of days.
2 players offered deals to stay neither have signed them yet and both have other options available to them, maybe in less money but longer contracts.
One extension looks like being triggered.
Expecting many out of contract to not be staying some have already said their goodbyes to everyone.
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 18, 2023 16:38:19 GMT 1
Should see the list tomorrow. Takeover now really close and could even have some news in a matter of days. 2 players offered deals to stay neither have signed them yet and both have other options available to them, maybe in less money but longer contracts. One extension looks like being triggered. Expecting many out of contract to not be staying some have already said their goodbyes to everyone. So the takeover could be confirmed this week/ early next?
the two players to be offered deals are Ward and Koroma ?
The rest will be going?
Cheers mate.
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Post by Melc on May 18, 2023 17:02:33 GMT 1
Should see the list tomorrow. Takeover now really close and could even have some news in a matter of days. 2 players offered deals to stay neither have signed them yet and both have other options available to them, maybe in less money but longer contracts. One extension looks like being triggered. Expecting many out of contract to not be staying some have already said their goodbyes to everyone. Maybe that announcement could be an evening one, if Nagle delivers it, seeing they are eight hours behind us in the USA. |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on May 18, 2023 17:10:02 GMT 1
I don't think it's complex at all. We wait until something is announced, then those who want their opinions to be heard will express opinions about the announcement. Meanwhile, we wait and see (happily) you are like a bird that keeps hitting the window trying to fly through it. It must be self harming for you to come on here and read so many opinions and speculations every day, don’t know why you keep coming back for it. Who knows, but maybe there is a forum where speculation is banned, and only opinion and comments on facts are discussed. On such a forum, there will be comments on new signings only after they have joined. If I don't keep hitting the window, folk will think it's ok to speculate. At the moment I may be the only one, but I can but hope, that with the eventual support of others, I can break that window, and get rid of this cant. Although, I've heard from someone itk that, what with his contract with PSG coming to an end, we are only buying Messi this Summer. Feel free to discuss. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 18, 2023 17:13:23 GMT 1
Should see the list tomorrow. Takeover now really close and could even have some news in a matter of days. 2 players offered deals to stay neither have signed them yet and both have other options available to them, maybe in less money but longer contracts. One extension looks like being triggered. Expecting many out of contract to not be staying some have already said their goodbyes to everyone. Maybe that announcement could be an evening one, if Nagle delivers it, seeing they are eight hours behind us in the USA. All eyes on Castle Hill in case it suddenly lights up tonight. “The Nagle has landed” |
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Post by crux on May 18, 2023 18:53:42 GMT 1
Maybe that announcement could be an evening one, if Nagle delivers it, seeing they are eight hours behind us in the USA. All eyes on Castle Hill in case it suddenly lights up tonight. “The Nagle has landed” I'll nip up to Crosland Moor International Airport and wait for Airforce 2 to land 👍🤣 |
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Post by Tinpot on May 19, 2023 7:03:15 GMT 1
you are like a bird that keeps hitting the window trying to fly through it. It must be self harming for you to come on here and read so many opinions and speculations every day, don’t know why you keep coming back for it. Who knows, but maybe there is a forum where speculation is banned, and only opinion and comments on facts are discussed. On such a forum, there will be comments on new signings only after they have joined. If I don't keep hitting the window, folk will think it's ok to speculate. At the moment I may be the only one, but I can but hope, that with the eventual support of others, I can break that window, and get rid of this cant. Although, I've heard from someone itk that, what with his contract with PSG coming to an end, we are only buying Messi this Summer. Feel free to discuss. Should we be talking about players once they've joined? I mean, until they've played a few games we don't know how good they are going to be. |
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Post by terriers2000 on May 19, 2023 8:09:45 GMT 1
Should see the list tomorrow. Takeover now really close and could even have some news in a matter of days. 2 players offered deals to stay neither have signed them yet and both have other options available to them, maybe in less money but longer contracts. One extension looks like being triggered. Expecting many out of contract to not be staying some have already said their goodbyes to everyone. Ward and Koroma been offered I’m guessing then ruffels is the extension one |
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Post by alexdire on May 19, 2023 8:09:59 GMT 1
All eyes on Castle Hill in case it suddenly lights up tonight. “The Nagle has landed” I'll nip up to Crosland Moor International Airport and wait for Airforce 2 to land 👍🤣 What's kamala Harris got to do with it? |
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