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Post by tepidterrier on May 19, 2023 15:44:46 GMT 1
On a side note, when Matty Daly scored that last minute winner at Charlton, who'd have thought it'd be his one and only goal for us? Seemed to be a lot of hype around him at the time.
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Post by kwami-hodouto on May 19, 2023 15:44:50 GMT 1
How long a contract did with give to Connor Mahoney? Completely forgot he was even at the club. Below are the contract lengths of our players under contract (A quick search across transfermarkt to get these) June 2024 Jonathan Hogg Duane Holmes Jordan Rhodes Matty Pearson Etienne Camara Ben Jackson Yuta Nakayama Rarmani Edmonds-Green Will Boyle Brahima Diarra Jaheim Headley Brodie Spencer Connor Mahoney Aaron Rowe Loick Ayina Jacob Chapman Kyle Hudlin June 2025 Tom Lees Michał Helik David Kasumu Ollie Turton Scott High Pat Jones Kian Harratt Kieran Phillips June 2026 Jack Rudoni Lee Nicholls Sorba Thomas Nicholas Bilokapic Tyreece Simpson Josh Austerfield So from that you'd hope the club are trying to get the following players to extend their contracts... Matty Pearson Rarmani Edmonds-Green Ben Jackson Brahima Diarra Jaheim Headley Brodie Spencer Jacob Chapman |
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Post by Tinpot on May 19, 2023 15:51:13 GMT 1
Thought Ruffels may have done enough for us to trigger his extra year, but not to be. I think ordinarily we would have extended, but with both Headley and Jackson coming through in the same position it might have been felt that he was surplus to requirements. Personally I'd have kept him and tried to loan one or both of Jackson and Headley out to somewhere in Lg1 or Lg2 then let him go after that (by which point our younger lads can make the shirt their own). |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on May 19, 2023 15:58:43 GMT 1
Myles Bright isn't mentioned anywhere. He has always looked slightly different from the players we have produced. He's still under contract for another year, with an option for a further year too. |
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Post by mids on May 19, 2023 16:09:58 GMT 1
Im happy with the retained list in all honesty. JK is talking to several other clubs. Ward could end up at Bolton yet too, but I expect him to stay for another year. Boyle has been told he's free to find another club. Hopefully one of the several clubs take him...he's like Simon Baldry Jnr...can't cope with another season of his half-arsed attitude with rare glimpses if talent...but all with the same one manoeuvre |
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 19, 2023 16:12:25 GMT 1
JK I think staying or leaving will be an early indicator as to our ambitions for next season. Would imagine surely that Nagle himself has outlined his vision for the club to Koroma, as he would be a big loss.
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Post by thomo on May 19, 2023 16:15:24 GMT 1
I think worth extending JK
For me we need a complete reset up front so wouldn't be offering new terms to Danny Ward and hoping we're looking to offload Rhodes. If we start with those two as first choice strikers for next season we may as well accept relegation now.
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Post by CurlyWurly on May 19, 2023 16:15:27 GMT 1
There's so absolute utter garbage on that released list.
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Post by royrace on May 19, 2023 16:17:37 GMT 1
Ruffles is a good league 1 player but for me never quite looked up to the championship.Wouldn't mind Ward staying but hopefully more as a back up to someone better than him next season. And Im glad theyre trying to get Koroma to stay. It will be a gamble for us and how he performs could be entirely down to whoever we get in as manager and how they can motivate him and fill him with confidence, but I think hes done enough over theist few months to warrant us doing everything we can to keep him. Looked L2 standard pre Warnock, decent champ after, amazing turn around but if you take an average of those its L1 so I agree, fair decision I think, hopefully he'll get a decent contract elsewhere. Would be risky signing Koroma on a massive contract, we cant just blame Schofield and Fotheringham for him going off the boil, same happened to Corberan and Cowleys in the league below. Hope we can keep him but not for crazy money, maybe performance/appearance based if that's possible. Superb player when on song though. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 19, 2023 16:30:12 GMT 1
Of all the released, disappointed that Danny Grant never got a chance. 2 and half years here and he appeared on the bench once. High hopes and I know he had the COVID illness and other injuries, but still a shame he never even made an appearance for us. Didn't seem to do much for Harrogate near the bottom of League 2. Has had a horrendous few years, hopefully a fresh start somewhere else and he can reach his potential. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 19, 2023 16:31:00 GMT 1
Ruffles is a good league 1 player but for me never quite looked up to the championship.Wouldn't mind Ward staying but hopefully more as a back up to someone better than him next season. And Im glad theyre trying to get Koroma to stay. It will be a gamble for us and how he performs could be entirely down to whoever we get in as manager and how they can motivate him and fill him with confidence, but I think hes done enough over theist few months to warrant us doing everything we can to keep him. Looked L2 standard pre Warnock, decent champ after, amazing turn around but if you take an average of those its L1 so I agree, fair decision I think, hopefully he'll get a decent contract elsewhere. Would be risky signing Koroma on a massive contract, we cant just blame Schofield and Fotheringham for him going off the boil, same happened to Corberan and Cowleys in the league below. Hope we can keep him but not for crazy money, maybe performance/appearance based if that's possible. Superb player when on song though. Thats the gamble with Koroma. On song hes a real asset at this level. But not on song hes a total passenger. There doesnt seem to be any middle ground with him. Think if he does go his new club will have the same issue with him. I dont think Ive ever known more of a confidence player. But id keep him if we can. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 19, 2023 16:33:50 GMT 1
Looked L2 standard pre Warnock, decent champ after, amazing turn around but if you take an average of those its L1 so I agree, fair decision I think, hopefully he'll get a decent contract elsewhere. Would be risky signing Koroma on a massive contract, we cant just blame Schofield and Fotheringham for him going off the boil, same happened to Corberan and Cowleys in the league below. Hope we can keep him but not for crazy money, maybe performance/appearance based if that's possible. Superb player when on song though. Thats the gamble with Koroma. On song hes a real asset at this level. But not on song hes a total passenger. There doesnt seem to be any middle ground with him. Think if he does go his new club will have the same issue with him. I dont think Ive ever known more of a confidence player. But id keep him if we can. I agree on song he's worth £10m I think the club need to look at through that context - risk (of a contract) versus reward (big future fee) - and trust that they can appoint a manager who gets what Warnock did out of him |
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Post by bobrobterrier on May 19, 2023 16:38:18 GMT 1
No real surprises bar maybe Crichlow
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Post by ben1987 on May 19, 2023 16:42:02 GMT 1
Gutted for Grant, been incredibly unlucky. I hope he has a good career.
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Post by digs on May 19, 2023 16:43:22 GMT 1
There's so absolute utter garbage on that released list. and on the still contracted list too |
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Post by Wingman on May 19, 2023 16:43:36 GMT 1
Should we be talking about players once they've joined? I mean, until they've played a few games we don't know how good they are going to be. No discussion before or during a match either, only when we know the result. That waa another Drayton proposed rule I remember. I can guarantee that whilst I’m an Admin, those proposed changes won’t happen. It’s a forum, not a wake! |
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Post by Wingman on May 19, 2023 16:46:26 GMT 1
31 first team squad players under contract, plus 2 in talks. Fat to be trimmed. Agree, there is a a bloated look to that list but in balance there’s a number of young lads. For me those lads need to push hard this season to merit their futures at Town, or move them on next Summer. Retained list looks about right, hand on heart, because Grant and Critchlow, despite the talent are not Champ standard but can easily carve out a career in the lower leagues I would expect. Koroma and Ward would be decent to retain if we can but I wouldn’t blow my brains out financially for either of them. Hudlin etc need to step up this time or that’ll be another waste of cash, unless we are looking to sell this Summer. |
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Post by jerseyboy on May 19, 2023 16:56:53 GMT 1
Looking to retain JK & DW sets the tone for our new owners ambitions, I doubt we will be seeing exciting signings, which is a real pity.
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Post by Wingman on May 19, 2023 17:14:09 GMT 1
Looking to retain JK & DW sets the tone for our new owners ambitions, I doubt we will be seeing exciting signings, which is a real pity. It’s sensible in a way as it gives the new manager options and eases the pressure on the recruitment team to find experienced Championship players. Nothing to say either will stay yet either. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 19, 2023 17:16:22 GMT 1
On a side note, when Matty Daly scored that last minute winner at Charlton, who'd have thought it'd be his one and only goal for us? Seemed to be a lot of hype around him at the time. To be fair, that part of his game is good. See some of the finishes he's done in preseason friendlies. Reminded me of Chris Beech from the 1990s in style of play. He just never really kicked on. Apparently Harrogate are interested in signing him permanently. Good luck to him. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 19, 2023 17:18:08 GMT 1
No discussion before or during a match either, only when we know the result. That waa another Drayton proposed rule I remember. I can guarantee that whilst I’m an Admin, those proposed changes won’t happen. It’s a forum, not a wake! Is it ok to speculate on what the rule will be once somebody else takes over? |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 19, 2023 17:25:18 GMT 1
Of all the released, disappointed that Danny Grant never got a chance. 2 and half years here and he appeared on the bench once. High hopes and I know he had the COVID illness and other injuries, but still a shame he never even made an appearance for us. Didn't seem to do much for Harrogate near the bottom of League 2. Has had a horrendous few years, hopefully a fresh start somewhere else and he can reach his potential. Grant came on at half time for Harrogate at home to Sutton United back in January. I was there and I thought he looked decent and was a threat, showed some intelligent play. Despite this he hasn’t really made a significant impact at Harrogate, there must be a reason why that was the case. |
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Post by Wingman on May 19, 2023 17:26:34 GMT 1
I can guarantee that whilst I’m an Admin, those proposed changes won’t happen. It’s a forum, not a wake! Is it ok to speculate on what the rule will be once somebody else takes over? I’m happy to wait and see.  |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on May 19, 2023 17:27:45 GMT 1
Didn't seem to do much for Harrogate near the bottom of League 2. Has had a horrendous few years, hopefully a fresh start somewhere else and he can reach his potential. Grant came on at half time for Harrogate at home to Sutton United back in January. I was there and I thought he looked decent and was a threat, showed some intelligent play. Despite this he hasn’t really made a significant impact at Harrogate, there must be a reason why that was the case. His injuries and long covid seem to have set him back massively which is a shame for the lad. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 19, 2023 17:34:01 GMT 1
Danny Grant, the greatest player never to play for Huddersfield Town. Never have I seen so much clamour for a player no-one's ever seen to get in the first team.
Shame he suffered with the injuries and the COVID and so on, he'll probably go somewhere else and have a good career now which is often the case!
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 19, 2023 18:06:04 GMT 1
I personally wouldn't have offered anyone a contract, as Koroma's agent plays silly buggers like he did last time. Ward got 5 goals last season for the money he will be on is he really worth it ?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 19, 2023 18:07:48 GMT 1
I’ve mentioned Grant, Daly and Boyle on the Sutton United forum. They’re looking for players in all those positions. Daly has played against them a few times for Hartlepool and Harrogate.
I guess location, cost of living, salaries and amenities may be against anything happening though. They’d all be eye-openers for them!
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Post by midlander on May 19, 2023 18:54:29 GMT 1
Stoke definitely one of the clubs in talks with Koroma.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 19, 2023 19:37:51 GMT 1
Koroma is a real tough one. We know he has talent, albeit pretty limited to one, admittedly excellent, right footed instep being passed into the net. But, when he doesn't want to/can't be arsed playing, he is a virtual passenger.
We seem to have a very bloated, poor quality squad in attacking positions & if budget is limited. I'd be happy to let someone else take the chance on him wanting to play on any given match day.
If we aren't anywhere near off-loading Jordan Rhodes, I'd be very disappointed at even offering Danny Ward anything, we simply cannot afford to have both of them on the books next season.
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Post by rockwall on May 19, 2023 19:45:22 GMT 1
Koroma is a real tough one. We know he has talent, albeit pretty limited to one, admittedly excellent, right footed instep being passed into the net. But, when he doesn't want to/can't be arsed playing, he is a virtual passenger. We seem to have a very bloated, poor quality squad in attacking positions & if budget is limited. I'd be happy to let someone else take the chance on him wanting to play on any given match day. If we aren't anywhere near off-loading Jordan Rhodes, I'd be very disappointed at even offering Danny Ward anything, we simply cannot afford to have both of them on the books next season. With Koroma, yes he has played a blinder, but he only has his good spell when in the shop window. Lockdown season he got a new deal and has been shite until the last 4 months of his contract. Huge gamble. |
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