k1man999
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Post by k1man999 on Jun 8, 2023 10:44:29 GMT 1
Only the Gorre one is anywhere near even approaching controversial. Harratt one too - people on here massively downplay the level of standard. Harratt bagged goals for fun in the U23s, it’s a completely different level, look at how many players from the u23s end up being semi pro for the majority of their career. Harratt was never even a regular for L2 sides. Ward and Rhodes have their faults but it’s hardly like they were squandering chances left, right and centre. We hardly created anything. For the record, I like Harratt and looks a good prospect, but people are so quick to look at someone scoring goals in the 23s and assume that translates into goals at a much higher level. it's like the lad we got from west ham Was banging them in in the u23 Came to us looked like he'd struggle in the gel pak league
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 8, 2023 11:15:46 GMT 1
Ooh, let's see. Sorry if others have mentioned some of these. And don't anyone get offended. Wagner is massively overrated. The most defensive manager I have ever seen. Whole months without a single shot on target is completely unacceptable at any level. Cowardly football. He might be a good coach but he doesn't understand the game itself. Pritchard was the latest in an extremely long line (now including Thomas and Russell, almost Koroma) of very talented players that the club have stifled, demoralised, devalued, and crushed in one way or another. Yes, a lot of the time their attitudes were also questionable, but it's our job to get the best out of these guys and we have consistently failed at it over many decades, especially when it comes to the more mercurial talents. Fans have played their part in it as well. This might be the most controversial of all. I feel a bit bad about it too because I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but it can't be helped. I'll keep it as respectful as possible and just say... Big Frank wasn't all that. He didn't score anywhere near enough goals for us. Never in the "fookin' box" as Greaves would say. Downed tools with the others during the shameful relegation season as well. Still a wonderfully skillful player who produced moments of magic. Slightly devil's advocate. Selling Marcus wasn't a terrible idea and the impact of it is overblown by many fans. It was a decent deal on paper for a guy "pushing 30" (okay, 27/28) who we'd had 3/4 good seasons out of, who could be one more bad injury away from being on the scrapheap. The team had already started losing momentum and probably weren't going up anyway, and the rot at boardroom level in all likelihood would have continued our downfall regardless of whether MS was at the club, and would have resulted in him leaving for a much lower fee. Smithies is/was a terrible goalkeeper. He makes good saves but that's all. Much like De Gea, it means nothing when he ships that many through mistakes, indecision and just a general lack of a commanding presence. Our academy (or whatever we call it these days) has almost entirely produced bog-standard dross. We keep the squeaky clean "good men" who work hard but let the ones with talent and an edge to them slip through the net. LOB is by far the best player to come through it. Apart from him, most other decent ones were imported late in their development. He's the exception that proves the rule. We are no more "little old Huddersfield" than Leeds are "little old Leeds" or Liverpool are "little old Liverpool". This was always just a line in propaganda to force us to accept low expectations, low investment, low ambition, shit results. Football is a meritocracy. Doesn't matter how many fans you have or what you've won in the past. If you're not in the game to climb the pyramid, smash the big boys with your team of underpaid rejects, to be better than everyone else by being smarter than them, to prove everyone wrong and win regardless, what the hell are you there for? I think someone mentioned this on another thread, so credit to whoever that was. RVLP was far better than most gave him credit for. His all-round game (admittedly, barring end-product a lot of the time) was superb. Lastly and least controversial of all, Neil Warnock is our Brian Clough and when we lost him we missed our date with destiny AGAIN (Shankly). There is something alchemical about the mix of Neil and Huddersfield Town. It just fits perfectly together in a deep and metaphysical way. He's our ideal manager and we're his ideal club. Who knows how far we would have gone together. I'm a dreamer and I say very very far indeed. Frank was on another level to the rest of the team he played in. He had to go looking for the ball in order to create his own chances and as for Greaves moaning "he was never in the box", it can't have bothered him that much as he later went and signed him for Bolton. If Worthington had played in today's game, he'd have probably played in the "number 10" role rather than as an out & out striker.
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Post by CowshedJack on Jun 8, 2023 11:18:25 GMT 1
Heather Whitehead is an actual sueprfan. Do you know how long her and her hubby have supported Huddersfield?
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 8, 2023 11:31:13 GMT 1
Maureen Proctor is a 90 year old lady who follows Town home and away, served many years as chair of the HTFC supporters club and has been a fan for 80 years. Tediously, Town celebrated her with a video (Co-starring her daughter) upon her 90th birthday. Once. Cheers, doing a focus piece once is a definition of "obsession" I'm not familiar with!! 😲😆
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 8, 2023 11:34:39 GMT 1
*cough* Champions league *cough* Which is also a league followed by a play off of those that qualify. Anyway surely there’s only one way to settle this, what do the EFL say on the matter? They say that Town were unbeaten for 43 league games and issued a plaque to Town funded via the sponsor NPower to commemorate that fact 😲
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 8, 2023 11:44:45 GMT 1
Which is also a league followed by a play off of those that qualify. Anyway surely there’s only one way to settle this, what do the EFL say on the matter?Already explained this. The most recent championship result ion the EFL website is Coventry 1 Luton 1 at Wembley. As for the Champions League - if you're unbeaten in the group stages but lost in the first knockout stage 3 years running, are you unbeaten in the Champions League for 3 years? You'd be unbeaten in Champions League league games. Makes more sense if you ignore that the UEFA Champions League is just transitionary branding for what is actually the European Cup ( the trophy you get for winning the Champions League is called, and has remained called "The European Champion Clubs' Cup" or actually "Coupe des Clubs Champions Européens" - which is why it gets called the European Cup), so you'd be "unbeaten in European Cup league games". Not sure you'd be trumpeting that achievement from the rooftops, just as not sure that you'd be trumpeting unbeaten Football League league records (and Lee Clark said as much, that his achievement with getting Birmingham to the edge of the play offs was greater) - but it remains a fact, and the Football League decided to tag it as 'a thing'.
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Post by ldotm on Jun 8, 2023 11:47:26 GMT 1
Heather Whitehead is an actual sueprfan. Do you know how long her and her hubby have supported Huddersfield? As soon as their son, Dean, started playing for Town.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Jun 8, 2023 23:22:52 GMT 1
Maureen Proctor is a 90 year old lady who follows Town home and away, served many years as chair of the HTFC supporters club and has been a fan for 80 years. Tediously, Town celebrated her with a video (Co-starring her daughter) upon her 90th birthday. Once. Fair bit more than just one youtube video. Theres been loads of features the clubs done of her. If theres a marketing campaign, your sure to see her and her daughter. I'm not questioning her loyalty or dedication and it wasnt meant to be a criticism of her. Its controversial opinions topic, so didnt expect everyone to agree. But on reflection maybe my initial comment should go in the 'Bad Huddersfield Town opinions' thread if one existed.
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 9, 2023 10:23:16 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 9, 2023 10:24:54 GMT 1
Phil Hodgkinson was a much better chairman than he was given credit for.
(Although uncontroversially, that shirt really was an abomination)
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 9, 2023 10:33:45 GMT 1
I've commented on that and its basically bullshit and posted by a Burnley fan to make them look good. The figure of 433,000 is the population of Kirklees and doesn't take into account that certain areas are closer to Leeds & Bradford than Huddersfield. Burnley Borough Council is a much smaller local authority hence the higher percentage of the population attending. What it doesn't take into account is that a lot of Burnley fans reside in Calderdale.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 9, 2023 11:13:03 GMT 1
Huddersfield is bigger than Cardiff according to that! Its not even a third of the size.
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 9, 2023 12:39:22 GMT 1
I've commented on that and its basically bullshit and posted by a Burnley fan to make them look good. The figure of 433,000 is the population of Kirklees and doesn't take into account that certain areas are closer to Leeds & Bradford than Huddersfield. Burnley Borough Council is a much smaller local authority hence the higher percentage of the population attending. What it doesn't take into account is that a lot of Burnley fans reside in Calderdale. Good point, well presented.
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Post by CowshedJack on Jun 10, 2023 16:23:14 GMT 1
Putting asterisks in Leeds name is embarrassing and makes us look obsessed.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 10, 2023 16:39:05 GMT 1
Putting asterisks in Leeds name is embarrassing and makes us look obsessed. Dirty L**ds, you mean.
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Post by rockwall on Jun 11, 2023 12:33:07 GMT 1
Putting asterisks in Leeds name is embarrassing and makes us look obsessed. Agree. I find the pinned thread of pictures of tearful chestwankers embarrassing too and shows we do have an obsession.
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Post by 28901 on Jun 11, 2023 12:58:24 GMT 1
430,000 lol Never read such drivel.
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Jun 11, 2023 19:47:04 GMT 1
I actually like "marching on together " I don't however like Leeds Utd, but, as a grown up I feel I can say this
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Post by JG Mellor on Jun 12, 2023 10:35:48 GMT 1
I actually like "marching on together " I don't however like Leeds Utd, but, as a grown up I feel I can say this I hate Man Utd. I hate the supporters (because when I was at school in the 70s, Town supporters became ManUre fans in their droves) and I hate the club (for disrespecting the FA Cup). Why do Town fans hate Leeds Utd? Proper grown up answer please?
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Post by artysid on Jun 12, 2023 10:43:20 GMT 1
I actually like "marching on together " I don't however like Leeds Utd, but, as a grown up I feel I can say this I hate Man Utd. I hate the supporters (because when I was at school in the 70s, Town supporters became ManUre fans in their droves) and I hate the club (for disrespecting the FA Cup). Why do Town fans hate Leeds Utd? Proper grown up answer please? Local rivalry - banter with mates at school initially
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 12, 2023 10:46:08 GMT 1
I've no time for Town fans that don't consider Bradford City our rivals or want them to do well.
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Post by CowshedJack on Jun 12, 2023 12:54:13 GMT 1
I've no time for Town fans that don't consider Bradford City our rivals or want them to do well. Generational, we haven’t played them in 10 years.
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 12, 2023 13:08:02 GMT 1
I've no time for Town fans that don't consider Bradford City our rivals or want them to do well. Generational, we haven’t played them in 10 years. So what? We didn't play Leeds for 20 years.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 12, 2023 13:10:19 GMT 1
I actually like "marching on together " I don't however like Leeds Utd, but, as a grown up I feel I can say this I hate Man Utd. I hate the supporters (because when I was at school in the 70s, Town supporters became ManUre fans in their droves) and I hate the club (for disrespecting the FA Cup). Why do Town fans hate Leeds Utd? Proper grown up answer please? Are you a L**ds fan ?
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 12, 2023 13:12:14 GMT 1
Generational, we haven’t played them in 10 years. So what? We didn't play Leeds for 20 years. But you don't find many City fans outside Bradford, Chestwankers are like rats, you never seem to be more than 6' from one 😉
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Post by rockwall on Jun 12, 2023 15:53:34 GMT 1
I actually like "marching on together " I don't however like Leeds Utd, but, as a grown up I feel I can say this I hate Man Utd. I hate the supporters (because when I was at school in the 70s, Town supporters became ManUre fans in their droves) and I hate the club (for disrespecting the FA Cup). Why do Town fans hate Leeds Utd? Proper grown up answer please? What an utterly bizarre comment from a supposed town fan. Would you ask a Newcastle fan why they hate Sunderland? Or a Villa fan why they hate Birmingham?
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jun 12, 2023 16:00:00 GMT 1
I hate them cos they're a bunch of cards.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 12, 2023 16:11:35 GMT 1
Terry Austin wasn’t that bad. We’d kill for a striker who scored a goal every four games these day (10 in 42)!
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Post by bluetit on Jun 12, 2023 17:11:35 GMT 1
Dave Cowling was universally loved by all town fans and his goal at Beeston never happened, he couldn’t run and we never scored from his crosses. Great tackler though.
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Post by Niggled on Jun 12, 2023 17:22:00 GMT 1
I've hated them for over 50 years. The majority of their fans are utter arseholes. They sing a song about winning the European cup . They didnt. They got outbribbed. You can throw all your medals and all your pots and pans in the dustbin, you've won them by cheating. Wankers the lot .
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