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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 18, 2023 22:47:12 GMT 1
I'm sorry Blues, but apart from you praising Warnock, you're completely wrong. And judging by your history of posting you seem to agree with whatever a chairman/board instigates. Its almost sycophant at times. Its taken a few games but you can see what NW wants from this squad and like the back end of last season, the players are now understanding and responding. The decision to get rid of him this early into the season not only reeks of naivety but makes us as a club look amateur at best. Stability was key this season, not a time for messing about with new a new train set and getting upset over who has said what and when. Yes, get rid in Jan/Feb if we are more or less safe but this is unbelievably stupid. This season should've been about mid table mediocrity and without drama. The ship has finally been steadied........ why rock the boat You had everything going for you Neil. Why did you rock the boat? đ
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Post by 4 pts on Sept 18, 2023 22:47:25 GMT 1
Thereâs some absolute nutters on this forum. There are certainly some on here that I would class as Gareths. Them types that walk into the bosses office and pull the blinds down
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 18, 2023 22:49:51 GMT 1
This certainly was not the plan, the plan was for NW to be here for the full season, unfortunately the plan fell apart 4 to 6 weeks ago, nothing to do with tweets, nothing to do with Nagel being undermined , nothing to do with Nagels ego. Give us a clue or three⌠Apparently NW doing NW things.
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Post by keefer on Sept 18, 2023 22:51:47 GMT 1
Well put, timing is bizarre, a good manager would have Neil's backing, but they won't even tell him who it is........That's Disrespectful & embarrassing from the board. Yes very disrespectful and watfordesque A couple on here have been ageist today just mentioning Neil as a 74 year old like he's now too old Nothing bold and brave about what has gone on today...if I was neil I would tell nagle to fuck off and not take the Stoke game Typical behaviour from Americans thinking they can shit on anyone And you can categorically state that from the statement given by the Club and the the soon to be ex manager. There's nothing like making a drama out of a crisis
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Post by St Dogs Terrier on Sept 18, 2023 22:53:23 GMT 1
You had everything going for you Neil. Why did you rock the boat? đ I maybe shooting well wide of the mark and am not in any shape or form ITK but with what I have read on here on the last couple of days the words "double agent" and "nepotism" seem to pop into my mind.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Sept 18, 2023 23:01:30 GMT 1
Give us a clue or three⌠Apparently NW doing NW things. Hmm. Some if your posts are in the form of dead cert âI know whatâs happeningâ, as if youâre Maynard 2, yet other posts start with âApparentlyâŚâ Make your mind up?! If youâre genuinely in the know, you should probably be starting such a sentence with âAllegedlyâŚâ rather than âapparentlyâŚâ. Donât get me wrong, I appreciate your posts, and I understand that you may be constrained in what you can say, but either make it clearer as to what you know, or else best to not risk causing problems for yourself, or leading us up the garden path, and, with respect, shut up on this topic...?
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Post by 4 pts on Sept 18, 2023 23:11:12 GMT 1
The biggest sycophant of those at the top of the club comes and throws in arm bands and pumps up the life raft. What a surprise Pete Beautifully expressed but you're drowning in ignorance Only thing I'm drowning in is realism Pete. Keep nibbling at them prawn sandwiches
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Post by arry11 on Sept 18, 2023 23:20:49 GMT 1
It's just a really sad way for Warnock to end his managerial career at Town. Really awful and not a way I'd like to be treated if I was him. No it's not nice but he was always prepared to step aside just a bit sooner than he thought just hope we have made the right decision on this NW will always be a Town legend. He may be back come January lol.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 18, 2023 23:28:33 GMT 1
Apparently NW doing NW things. Hmm. Some if your posts are in the form of dead cert âI know whatâs happeningâ, as if youâre Maynard 2, yet other posts start with âApparentlyâŚâ Make your mind up?! If youâre genuinely in the know, you should probably be starting such a sentence with âAllegedlyâŚâ rather than âapparentlyâŚâ. Donât get me wrong, I appreciate your posts, and I understand that you may be constrained in what you can say, but either make it clearer as to what you know, or else best to not risk causing problems for yourself, or leading us up the garden path, and, with respect, shut up on this topic...? I have no doubt NW will make it clearer in his next book, I told you he was going , howâs that leading anyone up the garden path, this has been building for several weeks , allegedly there were issues itâs now apparent there were, that do you.As Maynard alluded to 2/3 weeks ago.
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Post by boooothy on Sept 18, 2023 23:38:35 GMT 1
This will go down in Huddersfield Town conspiracy theory history alongside Warnock shaggin Fisherâs wife and canât even remember who Stewart was ânobbinâ and the evil Cowley Brothers.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 19, 2023 0:01:57 GMT 1
I can't believe that this was ever "The Plan", or that Warnock is happy to leave like this. This certainly was not the plan, the plan was for NW to be here for the full season, unfortunately the plan fell apart 4 to 6 weeks ago, nothing to do with tweets, nothing to do with Nagel being undermined , nothing to do with Nagels ego. I know that you have been told in confidence and won't share.
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Post by Drew Peacock on Sept 19, 2023 0:02:50 GMT 1
Odd that Edwards said the decision was taken from a position of strength when they told Warnock prior to the west brom game when we were 3rd bottom? He did say that didn't he ? Yeah, he said it. Itâs typical corporate bollox innit. He didn't though did he. He said after the West Brom game.
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Post by bentley316 on Sept 19, 2023 0:05:14 GMT 1
I wonder if he could do a job at Shef U...they could do a lot worse.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Sept 19, 2023 1:00:47 GMT 1
On the surface this looks like one of the daftest decisions we've made in a long time (and there's some competition there), which makes me think there's definitely more to this than they're letting on.
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Post by ritchie on Sept 19, 2023 1:44:55 GMT 1
Will Leon crawl out of Neil's arse or will he be going with him? Who is Leon? The Yorkshire post writer? I'm just poking fun/being a bit mean but if you listen to all Warnocks pressers he's a bit teachers pet
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Post by ritchie on Sept 19, 2023 1:47:47 GMT 1
I must admit that initially I thought that it would have been more sensible to wait until NW had got us "safe" before getting a new manager However it wouldn't have said much about the club's confidence in its judgement or choice if they chose someone who they then worried might get us relegated. Doing it now at least shows the club is confident in its choice and actions. Good luck. A good point
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2023 6:19:10 GMT 1
I can't believe that this was ever "The Plan", or that Warnock is happy to leave like this. I'm sure Warnock agreed to take charge for 1 more year and said "I'm ok if you want to get rid after 6 games" If his contract is paid up, or to a beneficial % of it, it may soften the blow for him and his team, hence the âunited frontâ in the presser.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 7:14:31 GMT 1
Well put, timing is bizarre, a good manager would have Neil's backing, but they won't even tell him who it is........That's Disrespectful & embarrassing from the board. Yes very disrespectful and watfordesque A couple on here have been ageist today just mentioning Neil as a 74 year old like he's now too old Nothing bold and brave about what has gone on today...if I was neil I would tell nagle to fuck off and not take the Stoke game Typical behaviour from Americans thinking they can shit on anyone Even thought it was Neil's own fault? Typical behaviour from Americans? Get a grip you immature fuckwit.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 19, 2023 7:36:05 GMT 1
Nothing worse than those on here who post like theyâre in the loop and use that âplatformâ to insinuate wrong doing on peopleâs part to protect the club.
It happened when Cowley left. It happened when Carlos left. Now itâs happening with Warnock leaving. No facts offered, just drip-fed nods & winks alluding to personal impropriety. Hiding behind pseudonyms to sow seeds of character assassination whilst kissing the arse of whoever their current club official onanism fantasy is.
Half-wit conspiracy theory peddlers who want to besmirch anyone who has the backing of fans when they are being wronged by the club.
Iâm sure theyâre the same folk who see Russell Brand as a victim of an establishment attack and buy into the 15 minute city nonsense.
Arseholes, basically.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Sept 19, 2023 7:38:18 GMT 1
Hmm. Some if your posts are in the form of dead cert âI know whatâs happeningâ, as if youâre Maynard 2, yet other posts start with âApparentlyâŚâ Make your mind up?! If youâre genuinely in the know, you should probably be starting such a sentence with âAllegedlyâŚâ rather than âapparentlyâŚâ. Donât get me wrong, I appreciate your posts, and I understand that you may be constrained in what you can say, but either make it clearer as to what you know, or else best to not risk causing problems for yourself, or leading us up the garden path, and, with respect, shut up on this topic...? I have no doubt NW will make it clearer in his next book, I told you he was going , howâs that leading anyone up the garden path, this has been building for several weeks , allegedly there were issues itâs now apparent there were, that do you.As Maynard alluded to 2/3 weeks ago. Jake Edwards answer to timing question! (Apologies for the short ad at the beginning but is this a very telling answer?) You've got to admit that Jake looks uncomfortable and goes a bit waffly when asked if the candidate's availability is the only reason for the timing of the decision. He ends by saying it was "half the reason". And the other half was ...?
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Post by dugnet on Sept 19, 2023 7:44:34 GMT 1
If it wasn't "part of the plan" it begs the question; what part of the plan went wrong?
If NW did "NW things" couldn't that be got over to stabilise things on the field?
If this wasn't planned do we assume that the incoming appointment was similarly unplanned.
I'm absolutely not having a pop at the people who have posted the above but it does raise all sorts of questions.
Is the next appointment rushed?
Are there people in charge with thin skins?
Was setting a low budget a deliberate strategy to allow the long term appointment more financial leeway when they arrived?
Given we have been told that securing the stadium and developing the academy is a key part of the strategy is this more important than immediate performances on the pitch? Is relegation, in the worst case, seen as something that can be managed ie not seen by those now in charge as a major setback?
Until we understand who the new management team are I don't think we can jump to any conclusions. However had NW stayed in charge you could be pretty sure of what we were going to get on the pitch, effort,spirit and, likely,enough points to stay in the league.
It's all very well to say NW rocked the boat but is there a better qualified candidate who would pretty much ensure Championship football next season? I'm not sure there is.
What happens next is going to fascinating but crucial to the immediate footballing future of Town, noting that long term the "plan" may deliver.
As I posted yesterday this is either very bold or just plain daft. If the reason is something to do with individuals not seeing eye to eye, noting it generally takes two people to fall out (there are those suggesting this is what has occurred), then I really hope the immediate future enables the club to stabilise on the pitch. On the pitch is key to keeping sponsors happy, building a narrative that creates a brand and keeping supporters onside. We can have a sound long term plan but it counts for nothing if Town lose games and struggle this season.
The decision is however taken so we wait to see what unfolds in the next few weeks.
Mr Nagle and team have certainly been bold, it is the choice I think they will ultimately be judged by. I really hope it's successful.
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Post by dugnet on Sept 19, 2023 7:55:28 GMT 1
Nothing worse than those on here who post like theyâre in the loop and use that âplatformâ to insinuate wrong doing on peopleâs part to protect the club. It happened when Cowley left. It happened when Carlos left. Now itâs happening with Warnock leaving. No facts offered, just drip-fed nods & winks alluding to personal impropriety. Hiding behind pseudonyms to sow seeds of character assassination whilst kissing the arse of whoever their current club official onanism fantasy is. Half-wit conspiracy theory peddlers who want to besmirch anyone who has the backing of fans when they are being wronged by the club. Iâm sure theyâre the same folk who see Russell Brand as a victim of an establishment attack and buy into the 15 minute city nonsense. Arseholes, basically. It's about opinions isn't it? Just because someone has an opinion it doesn't make it fact. I take your point completely, although I wouldn't call anyone names, half a tale (based on hearsay/opinion and not substantiated by fact) only inflames the debate and doesn't offer any insightful explanation to what has happened/is happening. At the end of the day we have an opinion and use this, and others, platform to express our view but I don't think we carry much influence. Win games of football and the debate is less intense. Lose games of football and the debate can be frenzied. When the debate is passionate there are plenty, me included, who offer their take. There are some elude to wider knowledge but seldom offer a detailed explanation of that "knowledge". This only inflames speculation and ultimately adds 4/5ths of sod all, but me pointing this out won't stop it happening. Oh for a simple straightforward world where people were transparent, collaborative and worked to a greater good.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 19, 2023 7:58:24 GMT 1
If it wasn't "part of the plan" it begs the question; what part of the plan went wrong? If NW did "NW things" couldn't that be got over to stabilise things on the field? If this wasn't planned do we assume that the incoming appointment was similarly unplanned. I'm absolutely not having a pop at the people who have posted the above but it does raise all sorts of questions. Is the next appointment rushed? Are there people in charge with thin skins? Was setting a low budget a deliberate strategy to allow the long term appointment more financial leeway when they arrived? Given we have been told that securing the stadium and developing the academy is a key part of the strategy is this more important than immediate performances on the pitch? Is relegation, in the worst case, seen as something that can be managed ie not seen by those now in charge as a major setback? Until we understand who the new management team are I don't think we can jump to any conclusions. However had NW stayed in charge you could be pretty sure of what we were going to get on the pitch, effort,spirit and, likely,enough points to stay in the league. It's all very well to say NW rocked the boat but is there a better qualified candidate who would pretty much ensure Championship football next season? I'm not sure there is. What happens next is going to fascinating but crucial to the immediate footballing future of Town, noting that long term the "plan" may deliver. As I posted yesterday this is either very bold or just plain daft. If the reason is something to do with individuals not seeing eye to eye, noting it generally takes two people to fall out (there are those suggesting this is what has occurred), then I really hope the immediate future enables the club to stabilise on the pitch. On the pitch is key to keeping sponsors happy, building a narrative that creates a brand and keeping supporters onside. We can have a sound long term plan but it counts for nothing if Town lose games and struggle this season. The decision us however taken so we wait to see what unfolds in the next few weeks. Mr Nagle and team have certainly been bold, it is the choice I think they will ultimately be judged by. I really hope it's successful. I'm not sure why but your posts always come across like a journalist covering a story.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 19, 2023 8:04:08 GMT 1
The ITKs are probably waiting for the market to open so they can lump onâŚ.theyâre not daft
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Post by specialun on Sept 19, 2023 8:11:31 GMT 1
If it wasn't "part of the plan" it begs the question; what part of the plan went wrong? If NW did "NW things" couldn't that be got over to stabilise things on the field? If this wasn't planned do we assume that the incoming appointment was similarly unplanned. I'm absolutely not having a pop at the people who have posted the above but it does raise all sorts of questions. Is the next appointment rushed? Are there people in charge with thin skins? Was setting a low budget a deliberate strategy to allow the long term appointment more financial leeway when they arrived? Given we have been told that securing the stadium and developing the academy is a key part of the strategy is this more important than immediate performances on the pitch? Is relegation, in the worst case, seen as something that can be managed ie not seen by those now in charge as a major setback? Until we understand who the new management team are I don't think we can jump to any conclusions. However had NW stayed in charge you could be pretty sure of what we were going to get on the pitch, effort,spirit and, likely,enough points to stay in the league. It's all very well to say NW rocked the boat but is there a better qualified candidate who would pretty much ensure Championship football next season? I'm not sure there is. What happens next is going to fascinating but crucial to the immediate footballing future of Town, noting that long term the "plan" may deliver. As I posted yesterday this is either very bold or just plain daft. If the reason is something to do with individuals not seeing eye to eye, noting it generally takes two people to fall out (there are those suggesting this is what has occurred), then I really hope the immediate future enables the club to stabilise on the pitch. On the pitch is key to keeping sponsors happy, building a narrative that creates a brand and keeping supporters onside. We can have a sound long term plan but it counts for nothing if Town lose games and struggle this season. The decision is however taken so we wait to see what unfolds in the next few weeks. Mr Nagle and team have certainly been bold, it is the choice I think they will ultimately be judged by. I really hope it's successful. Agree with most of above Warnock was always going to go at some point this season imo if they thought theyâd found / could acesss / had to act to access who they wanted to be the longer term successor Warnock is Warnock, heâs done brilliantly well here, he isnât going to change & you get the full package - heâs not going to change now. Ultimately fans loved him and heâs delivered on the pitch - if something NW has done / said weeks ago has led to the early break up whatever that was that shouldnât have come as a surprise - if it did youâd question how naive those at the top are But having made that decision Nagle, Edwards have put themselves under big pressure early in their tenure to get this right
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 19, 2023 8:12:52 GMT 1
If it wasn't "part of the plan" it begs the question; what part of the plan went wrong? If NW did "NW things" couldn't that be got over to stabilise things on the field? If this wasn't planned do we assume that the incoming appointment was similarly unplanned. I'm absolutely not having a pop at the people who have posted the above but it does raise all sorts of questions. Is the next appointment rushed? Are there people in charge with thin skins? Was setting a low budget a deliberate strategy to allow the long term appointment more financial leeway when they arrived? Given we have been told that securing the stadium and developing the academy is a key part of the strategy is this more important than immediate performances on the pitch? Is relegation, in the worst case, seen as something that can be managed ie not seen by those now in charge as a major setback? Until we understand who the new management team are I don't think we can jump to any conclusions. However had NW stayed in charge you could be pretty sure of what we were going to get on the pitch, effort,spirit and, likely,enough points to stay in the league. It's all very well to say NW rocked the boat but is there a better qualified candidate who would pretty much ensure Championship football next season? I'm not sure there is. What happens next is going to fascinating but crucial to the immediate footballing future of Town, noting that long term the "plan" may deliver. As I posted yesterday this is either very bold or just plain daft. If the reason is something to do with individuals not seeing eye to eye, noting it generally takes two people to fall out (there are those suggesting this is what has occurred), then I really hope the immediate future enables the club to stabilise on the pitch. On the pitch is key to keeping sponsors happy, building a narrative that creates a brand and keeping supporters onside. We can have a sound long term plan but it counts for nothing if Town lose games and struggle this season. The decision is however taken so we wait to see what unfolds in the next few weeks. Mr Nagle and team have certainly been bold, it is the choice I think they will ultimately be judged by. I really hope it's successful. To be fair if the appointment turns out to be a bad one, theyâll just make another one wonât they? thereâs nothing âultimateâ going on here.
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Post by mosher on Sept 19, 2023 8:15:35 GMT 1
I don't know what's gone on between Warnock and the club but I know it's bad. I also don't know who the new manager is going to be but I know that that's bad too. As for the timing, well that's bad because, well because it just is. And that press conference, well even though Warnock and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) say they get on great, well they obviously don't because of something that I don't know about but is clearly true. The players have been great under Warnock but are going to be very bad under the new manager - obviously I don't know why because I don't know who it is yet - so don't ask me stupid questions. Whilst I know absolutely nothing about what has gone on, I do know that this new owner, Kevin Bagel, and the new Chief Exec bloke (I don't know who he is) are making a right mess of things and it's making me bloody cross. I just don't know why - and that makes me crosser. You dont know what going on, correct, but somehow you know its bad (how if you dont know what it is do you know its bad). Thats just the Huddersfield negativity taking you over. It does not have to be all doom and gloom. It has been explained, the new person they want is now available and ready to come onboard. It was always going to be about timing this season, even NW said he thought maybe Christmas. It's just a couple of months earlier due to circumstances. Stop looking for trouble where there isn't any Whooooooooosh
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Post by mosher on Sept 19, 2023 8:30:35 GMT 1
What a balls up by the club letting Warnock go so early on in the season. Weâve not even consulted Warnock with the next appointment and even letting him know who the next manager is. Itâs a massive decision by the club removing Warnock and Iâm hoping itâs not going to bite us on the arse, something which I think it might do. Warnock has got a song out of the players who under 2 previous managers struggled and looked like cannon fodder. If this decision goes wrong then Nagles early tenor in charge could go pear shaped and turn a lot of Town fans off from both him and the club. Pavarotti? Domingo? Caruso? Wunderlich?
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Sept 19, 2023 8:35:17 GMT 1
We all knew Mr Warnock would be leaving at some point in the season. As mentioned getting the new bloke in early might be a good thing. But this is Huddersfield Town so it good go either way
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 19, 2023 8:54:40 GMT 1
Thereâs some absolute nutters on this forum. Itâs like a pub where you see a procession of all sorts come in half cut, one after the other, ranting about a car crash outside and hear about 50 different versions of the same thing. I liken it more to a knee jerkers convention. A load of men in a big room having uncontrollable leg spasms every time anything happens.
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