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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 21:09:04 GMT 1
He was absolutely woeful at Stoke and Southampton the only place he’s been decent is Luton Wagner woeful at Schalke and Young Boys... many would have him here. Carlos woeful before us and at Olympiakos, many would have him back. With any manager, it's a risk. Jones could come in and have us playing like Luton. Could also turn out to be like Stoke. Wouldn't have either back, so don't include me in that.
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 15, 2023 21:09:27 GMT 1
He was absolutely woeful at Stoke and Southampton the only place he’s been decent is Luton Wagner woeful at Schalke and Young Boys... many would have him here. Carlos woeful before us and at Olympiakos, many would have him back. With any manager, it's a risk. Jones could come in and have us playing like Luton. Could also turn out to be like Stoke. Apart from Wagner wasn’t awful at schalke and young boys was he, schalke had there best start ever to a bundesliga season and it went to shit when their money problems hit home and they’ve still never recovered, young boys finished 2nd I believe still not woeful 🤷🏻♂️.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 21:09:39 GMT 1
He's everything Warnock isn't. A joyless nervous wreck That's how he comes over in interviews. Who knows what he's like with the players in training? The interviews that Carlos gave were awful, but seemed to do a fantastic job with the players. True. One of our greatest ever managers.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 15, 2023 21:09:47 GMT 1
Was giving the players the whole week off an issue for KN?......Warnock & Hoggy both defended the question yesterday. Should the decisions of one of the EFL's greatest ever managers be an issue to someone that knows the square root of fuck all about football 🤷
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Post by rockwall on Sept 15, 2023 21:10:48 GMT 1
Rightly so? Why? What was wrong with the window? Doesn’t care what I think, ask the manager. He was furious. He shouldn't have made the error in using his budget on Ruffels and Koroma then should he? Players didnt want to play for Warnock, that was the issue. ITK posters have stated that before. I don't know why, as if I had the chance, I'd jump at playing for someone like that. Problem is, a lot wouldn't like the old school of hard knocks that Warnock brings.
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 15, 2023 21:11:04 GMT 1
He's everything Warnock isn't. A joyless nervous wreck That's how he comes over in interviews. Who knows what he's like with the players in training? The interviews that Carlos gave were awful, but seemed to do a fantastic job with the players. Fair point, it could work for the players! I'm a fan though and I quite like having a manager who's likeable
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Post by bigtruck on Sept 15, 2023 21:11:18 GMT 1
Facts people. Facts.
When NW did his preseason presser, he said he was also helping look for the next manager and he’ll be here as long as he’s needed whether that was for the full season or not. He also said he was happy with that as long as it’s not done behind his back. IF and it’s a big IF there’s a new man coming in and NW isn’t needed do you honestly think he’d be taking tomorrows game if it had been done behind his back. We all know NW walks whenever he gets pissed off so why would that change and take tomorrows game?
So I have no issue if that’s the case. I will however have a massive issue if it’s Nathan Jones.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 21:11:42 GMT 1
Wagner woeful at Schalke and Young Boys... many would have him here. Carlos woeful before us and at Olympiakos, many would have him back. With any manager, it's a risk. Jones could come in and have us playing like Luton. Could also turn out to be like Stoke. Apart from Wagner wasn’t awful at schalke and young boys was he, schalke had there best start ever to a bundesliga season and it went to shit when their money problems hit home and they’ve still never recovered, young boys finished 2nd I believe still not woeful 🤷🏻♂️. He was woeful at both. He oversaw a record winless run at Schalke. Young Boys won the league three successive times before he took over. He left them in 3rd about 20 points behind. But as we know with Wagner, there's always an excuse.
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Post by stinkypete on Sept 15, 2023 21:12:04 GMT 1
He's everything Warnock isn't. A joyless nervous wreck That's how he comes over in interviews. Who knows what he's like with the players in training? The interviews that Carlos gave were awful, but seemed to do a fantastic job with the players. Jones works better with the underdog mentality, might be a better fit here than at “bigger” clubs.
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 15, 2023 21:13:41 GMT 1
Apart from Wagner wasn’t awful at schalke and young boys was he, schalke had there best start ever to a bundesliga season and it went to shit when their money problems hit home and they’ve still never recovered, young boys finished 2nd I believe still not woeful 🤷🏻♂️. He was woeful at both. He oversaw a record winless run at Schalke. Young Boys won the league three successive times before he took over. He left them in 3rd about 20 points behind. But as we know with Wagner, there's always an excuse. If your excuse if players sold from your squad because it’s 200m in debt then I’d say it’s a fair one
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Post by rockwall on Sept 15, 2023 21:14:54 GMT 1
Wagner woeful at Schalke and Young Boys... many would have him here. Carlos woeful before us and at Olympiakos, many would have him back. With any manager, it's a risk. Jones could come in and have us playing like Luton. Could also turn out to be like Stoke. Apart from Wagner wasn’t awful at schalke and young boys was he, schalke had there best start ever to a bundesliga season and it went to shit when their money problems hit home and they’ve still never recovered, young boys finished 2nd I believe still not woeful 🤷🏻♂️. Best start means nothing.... they finished 12th that year. We had the best start to PL but ended up 17th. Young Boys had won the league the previous 4 season, comfortably. He came 3rd with them. It's the equivalent of someone taking over Celtic and finishing 3rd in the SPL.
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Post by loumacari on Sept 15, 2023 21:15:05 GMT 1
That's how he comes over in interviews. Who knows what he's like with the players in training? The interviews that Carlos gave were awful, but seemed to do a fantastic job with the players. Jones works better with the underdog mentality, might be a better fit here than at “bigger” clubs. His football is agricultural. That’s why it didn’t work at better clubs with half decent players.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 15, 2023 21:15:48 GMT 1
Wagner woeful at Schalke and Young Boys... many would have him here. Carlos woeful before us and at Olympiakos, many would have him back. With any manager, it's a risk. Jones could come in and have us playing like Luton. Could also turn out to be like Stoke. Wouldn't have either back, so don't include me in that. But he said "many", not your favourite "everyone" 😉😁
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Post by stinkypete on Sept 15, 2023 21:16:10 GMT 1
Jones works better with the underdog mentality, might be a better fit here than at “bigger” clubs. His football is agricultural. That’s why it didn’t work at better clubs with half decent players. Perfect fit for us then!!
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Sept 15, 2023 21:16:24 GMT 1
Is it worth protesting about either before or after the game tomorrow?
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 21:17:30 GMT 1
He was woeful at both. He oversaw a record winless run at Schalke. Young Boys won the league three successive times before he took over. He left them in 3rd about 20 points behind. But as we know with Wagner, there's always an excuse. If your excuse if players sold from your squad because it’s 200m in debt then I’d say it’s a fair one He had a similar winless run here, but I know the excuse for that one is "bad luck and referees". Zzzzzzzzzz.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 15, 2023 21:17:45 GMT 1
Wagner woeful at Schalke and Young Boys... many would have him here. Carlos woeful before us and at Olympiakos, many would have him back. With any manager, it's a risk. Jones could come in and have us playing like Luton. Could also turn out to be like Stoke. Apart from Wagner wasn’t awful at schalke and young boys was he, schalke had there best start ever to a bundesliga season and it went to shit when their money problems hit home and they’ve still never recovered, young boys finished 2nd I believe still not woeful 🤷🏻♂️. And Schalke went on the worst losing run in either their, or German, history and Young Boys went from 3 or 4 times champions on the bounce to finishing 18 points behind the winners so...🤷
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 21:17:57 GMT 1
Is it worth protesting about either before or after the game tomorrow? Wonder when Nagle is planning on showing his face again?
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Sept 15, 2023 21:18:03 GMT 1
Apart from Wagner wasn’t awful at schalke and young boys was he, schalke had there best start ever to a bundesliga season and it went to shit when their money problems hit home and they’ve still never recovered, young boys finished 2nd I believe still not woeful 🤷🏻♂️. He was woeful at both. He oversaw a record winless run at Schalke. Young Boys won the league three successive times before he took over. He left them in 3rd about 20 points behind. But as we know with Wagner, there's always an excuse. Think you’ve really underestimated/misunderstood the really difficult situation on and off the field at Schalke when Wagner was there. Over here in Germany there’s a lot of sympathy for him from fans and media for what happened. Schalke were/are an absolute mess of a club.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 21:18:12 GMT 1
Apart from Wagner wasn’t awful at schalke and young boys was he, schalke had there best start ever to a bundesliga season and it went to shit when their money problems hit home and they’ve still never recovered, young boys finished 2nd I believe still not woeful 🤷🏻♂️. And Schalke went on the worst losing run in either their, or German, history and Young Boys went from 3 or 4 times champions on the bounce to finishing 18 points behind the winners so...🤷 Yeah, but...
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Post by deo1 on Sept 15, 2023 21:18:27 GMT 1
If this is true which I very much doubt then it’s a disgrace. Even more so if we’re getting in Nathan Jones who has in the past slagged the club and fans. Neil Warnock has done so much for this club it would be a travesty if we let him go so early on in the season. A massive own goal for Nagle and the new board and a massive pr own goal for the club. In the long run it’ll save me a fortune as I’d be giving town a miss after this season. The only reason I bought another season ticket was because Warnock was staying.
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Post by terriers2000 on Sept 15, 2023 21:18:45 GMT 1
Surely if he is leaving , something will be chanted at the game towards nagle , which I hope town fans get involved as you can’t treat a manager like that
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 21:18:52 GMT 1
He was woeful at both. He oversaw a record winless run at Schalke. Young Boys won the league three successive times before he took over. He left them in 3rd about 20 points behind. But as we know with Wagner, there's always an excuse. Think you’ve really underestimated/misunderstood the really difficult situation on and off the field at Schalke when Wagner was there. Over here in Germany there’s a lot of sympathy for him from fans and media for what happened. Schalke were/are an absolute mess of a club. Like I said, always an excuse. What will the excuse be when he does fuck all at Norwich?
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Post by Boothys Knees on Sept 15, 2023 21:18:55 GMT 1
Cartwright has appointed Jones before hasn't he?
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 21:19:26 GMT 1
Surely if he is leaving , something will be chanted at the game towards nagle , which I hope town fans get involved as you can’t treat a manager like that Are you starting the chants?
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 15, 2023 21:19:34 GMT 1
Jones works better with the underdog mentality, might be a better fit here than at “bigger” clubs. His football is agricultural. That’s why it didn’t work at better clubs with half decent players. Should be OK here then
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Post by terriers2000 on Sept 15, 2023 21:19:40 GMT 1
Cartwright has appointed Jones before hasn't he? if true so far he is worse than bromby
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 15, 2023 21:20:11 GMT 1
He was woeful at both. He oversaw a record winless run at Schalke. Young Boys won the league three successive times before he took over. He left them in 3rd about 20 points behind. But as we know with Wagner, there's always an excuse. Think you’ve really underestimated/misunderstood the really difficult situation on and off the field at Schalke when Wagner was there. Over here in Germany there’s a lot of sympathy for him from fans and media for what happened. Schalke were/are an absolute mess of a club. Wagners fault pal
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Post by crux on Sept 15, 2023 21:20:12 GMT 1
That's how he comes over in interviews. Who knows what he's like with the players in training? The interviews that Carlos gave were awful, but seemed to do a fantastic job with the players. True. One of our greatest ever managers. I'm guessing that was sarcastic 😉🤣. I never said he was one of our greatest ever managers. Although he did get us to the play-off final, even if he did probably did 'bottle it' in the final. I was pointing out that the view of the manager/coach that the public see, isn't necessarily the one the players see.
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 15, 2023 21:20:44 GMT 1
Cartwright has appointed Jones before hasn't he? His last appointment at Stoke I think
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