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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jun 10, 2023 23:11:10 GMT 1
Never seen so many plastics at a CL final. At one point it showed a group in the crowd and it was a case of spot the English fan. How the clubs supporters have changed at city in the last 15 years. Just another plastic club, can fuck off to the super league for me. At €500 for a cheap ticket what do you expect. I think city got 20k tickets which is totally wrong
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Post by impact on Jun 10, 2023 23:18:54 GMT 1
It’s easy to say money won it. But why are Utd so shite then. Spent the same amount if not more. No doubt you need a lot of money to compete at the top but city haven’t spent that much more to create the gap that they have. Close game tonight though Fergie didn't win titles as the plucky underdog. Clough didn't have the smallest budget in the league. Etc etc. The teams that have won things have always been the teams with the most money. I don't get the objections with other clubs trying to join them. You'll get a once in a century Leicester, but otherwise to compete you have to spend. FFP wasn't brought in to help make the next Leicester, it was to stop them.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jun 10, 2023 23:20:09 GMT 1
At €500 for a cheap ticket what do you expect. I think city got 20k tickets which is totally wrong Wouldn’t expect anything different , the top 6 plus clubs have more foreign fans now than normal . They deserve everything they get, I’d be overjoyed if the super league got going just to see the back of it and them. . Man Utd as a drop off point for luggage that’s bigger than our stadium nearly . It’s just shit fans with half and half scarfs and the obsession of catching a moment on camera to post that they were there on social media. I’ve implanted into my kids whatever you do in life enjoy the moment there and then don’t be watching it back afterwards on your recording, someone else will always of caught it for you to do that. UTT A proper club with real fans.
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Post by westislandterrier on Jun 10, 2023 23:20:51 GMT 1
Tonight I am very pleased for...
My good mate Jonathon Carmichael from The Whisky Isle and his brother Norman a taxi driver from Oban -
For our retired ambulance man Peter Farrington and his missus Pat who were originally from Mossside in Manchester near Main Road he’s told me...
For the elderly gentlemen who indulge in some light hearted but amusing banter in The Hare & Hounds bar in Shudehill, Manchester with their Man Utd counterparts and make for an enjoyable pint and dram or four after a very lengthy 7 hour journey from ma family home in Connel on the way to Huddersfield -
There endith the plaudits however as these good folks have suffered City being below Town quite a good bit over the years so enjoy a well earned beer all week and milk the moment and live the dream - you’ve earned your spurs to ! 🥃 🍺 🥃
To the youngsters who are aged 10 or thereabouts when I became in love with footy - enjoy the true joy of the moment 👍
And finally... To the 20-30-40-50’s something’s that have ‘always been’ City daft’ 🤥 - well aye take it all in (There are plenty in The West Island) and elsewhere no doubt - but watch as Newcastle are after your crown just as yous went after Chelsea’s one, just as they went after Man Utd’s one, just as they went after Liverpool ‘s one who actually went after Forest’s one by building a team and not so much buying one...
Oh and save the best to last... Mr Kevin Negal is landing in a town near yous very very soon - and it’s gonna get interesting - very interesting indeed ! 😊 😊
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Post by wildhogg on Jun 10, 2023 23:21:41 GMT 1
Difficult to get excited about a club with limitless funds winning a trophy. Obviously most of the clubs which dominate for periods of time spend a lot, but Liverpool in the 80's and United in the 90's/00's didn't win everything just because they had more money than everyone else. I still don't buy all the hype around Guardiola. He's been at Barca, Bayern and City - not exactly difficult to sweep all before you.
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Post by impact on Jun 10, 2023 23:27:48 GMT 1
I’m sick of hearing when City lost at York, at home to Wycombe, beat Gillingham in a L1 play off final. They have won the Champions League because they have access to unlimited wealth. They are owned by a country ( although I appreciate the PL don’t think so). The sooner the Super League thing happens the better, get rid I say. I have no axe to grind with Man City but there is literally no link whatsoever between the side that was shit enough to drop into the third tier and this billionaire all star collection of individuals. In the same way the team that got smashed in div 3 v Macclesfield had no link to Wagner's promotion heroes. It's still the same club and a lot of the same fans. If you've seen the lows enjoy the highs.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jun 10, 2023 23:28:07 GMT 1
At €500 for a cheap ticket what do you expect. I think city got 20k tickets which is totally wrong Wouldn’t expect anything different , the top 6 plus clubs have more foreign fans now than normal . They deserve everything they get, I’d be overjoyed if the super league got going just to see the back of it and them. . Man Utd as a drop off point for luggage that’s bigger than our stadium nearly . It’s just shit fans with half and half scarfs and the obsession of catching a moment on camera to post that they were there on social media. I’ve implanted into my kids whatever you do in life enjoy the moment there and then don’t be watching it back afterwards on your recording, someone else will always of caught it for you to do that. UTT A proper club with real fans. The Cyprus overseas Man City supporters group got 10 tickets and Not season ticket supporters, how does that work then?
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jun 10, 2023 23:30:24 GMT 1
Wouldn’t expect anything different , the top 6 plus clubs have more foreign fans now than normal . They deserve everything they get, I’d be overjoyed if the super league got going just to see the back of it and them. . Man Utd as a drop off point for luggage that’s bigger than our stadium nearly . It’s just shit fans with half and half scarfs and the obsession of catching a moment on camera to post that they were there on social media. I’ve implanted into my kids whatever you do in life enjoy the moment there and then don’t be watching it back afterwards on your recording, someone else will always of caught it for you to do that. UTT A proper club with real fans. The Cyprus overseas Man City supporters group got 10 tickets and Not season ticket supporters, how does that work then? I’m shocked you’re asking .
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 10, 2023 23:37:35 GMT 1
Difficult to get excited about a club with limitless funds winning a trophy. Obviously most of the clubs which dominate for periods of time spend a lot, but Liverpool in the 80's and United in the 90's/00's didn't win everything just because they had more money than everyone else. I still don't buy all the hype around Guardiola. He's been at Barca, Bayern and City - not exactly difficult to sweep all before you. Really??? On all accounts I disagree. Livarpool and Utd had limitless amounts of cash. Tv money has moved it to another level. I just hope the FL would put a wage cap In place to stop them ruining the Lower levels.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jun 10, 2023 23:38:45 GMT 1
I'm not asking just telling that loyal home and away supporters were denied tickets for a branch of would be plastic supporters
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Post by Big Ern on Jun 10, 2023 23:39:58 GMT 1
In the Warehouee tonight in Hudds, full of supposed city fans. What a load of shit
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jun 10, 2023 23:43:40 GMT 1
I'm not asking just telling that loyal home and away supporters were denied tickets for a branch of would be plastic supporters Don’t put how does that work then ?
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jun 10, 2023 23:46:54 GMT 1
In the Warehouee tonight in Hudds, full of supposed city fans. What a load of shit Totally agree , the biggest sign of an absolute sad bastard , a supposed fan who starts supporting the best team . My lad had a mate at school who supported 2 teams Real Madrid and Man City 😂
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Post by westislandterrier on Jun 10, 2023 23:56:03 GMT 1
In the Warehouee tonight in Hudds, full of supposed city fans. What a load of shit An overspill from all the City pubs in Manchester perhaps Ern as most City ones would be at full capacity very early and probably enforcing a ticket entry fee if Glasgow is anything to go by on big footy days... But if they have a Yorkshire and especially a Huddersfield Yorkshire accent then - oh dear not so good ! ☹️ ☹️
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 10, 2023 23:57:55 GMT 1
I know we’re moving away from the original intention of the thread, but it does make me wonder if there are tons of plastic fans because of influences like FIFA football games?
The amount of times I’ve tried to see YouTube clips of Town games, then realised after 15 seconds it’s just some bollocks simulation I couldn’t tell you.
I got into following Town quite naturally, through mates and some family (not my Dad incidentally). I know that still happens, but so many kids will be exposed to so many more teams, replica kits bought on foreign holidays etc.
It’s certainly not the game 50-60% of the posters on here would recognise.
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Post by westislandterrier on Jun 11, 2023 0:08:14 GMT 1
In the Warehouee tonight in Hudds, full of supposed city fans. What a load of shit Totally agree , the biggest sign of an absolute sad bastard , a supposed fan who starts supporting the best team . My lad had a mate at school who supported 2 teams Real Madrid and Man City 😂 It can flip the other direction as well though... Trust me - I was ribbed big time as a 10 year old in 1980 by everyone at school and called a Footy weirdo for picking Huddy Town ‘instead’ of Nottingham Forest... ‘Huddersfield are Hopless’ they used to chant at me in the playgrounds at Port Charlotte Primary School around New Year 1980 but I had the last laugh as Town won Division 4 as Champions and scored 101 goals ! 🏆 😊
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Post by rockwall on Jun 11, 2023 0:10:10 GMT 1
Well done City. Yes they have the money, but many other clubs do. They have got characters who have built a great team. People will say it is easy with all the money, it isn't. Still have lots to do. Anyone who begrudges that is definitly envious. Pleased the English team won. I guess if it wasn’t them be someone with all the money and success .. Well maybe not Spurs as they’d probably still mess up ! City do seem to be very settled and all as one though unlike other clubs with money to burn. Exactly. All these top teams have money. United have spent more than City. Still have to be shrewd in the transfer market.
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Post by rockwall on Jun 11, 2023 0:11:35 GMT 1
Difficult to get excited about a club with limitless funds winning a trophy. Obviously most of the clubs which dominate for periods of time spend a lot, but Liverpool in the 80's and United in the 90's/00's didn't win everything just because they had more money than everyone else. I still don't buy all the hype around Guardiola. He's been at Barca, Bayern and City - not exactly difficult to sweep all before you. More to management than an open cheque book.
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Post by rockwall on Jun 11, 2023 0:12:21 GMT 1
In the Warehouee tonight in Hudds, full of supposed city fans. What a load of shit Same with Town. Amount that came out of the woodwork when we got to the PL.
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Post by westislandterrier on Jun 11, 2023 0:22:43 GMT 1
In the Warehouee tonight in Hudds, full of supposed city fans. What a load of shit Same with Town. Amount that came out of the woodwork when we got to the PL. Well rockwall - when I started out with Town in 1980 we were kinda mid table in Division 4 - I did read one or two from DATM state that if Town were relegated last season then - ‘That was it’ - and the season book was going... Now things are getting tighter financially for many and I wholeheartedly understand that totally and realise that football can’t always be the first priority but chucking it on a relegation doesn’t sit to well with me at least - A team’s for life and not just for The Festive Season has always been - and always will be - my motto ! 😊
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2023 0:31:16 GMT 1
Been at a big gig in MCR tonight, very amusing how it was full of scousers and no MANCS to be seen. Obvs the scousers couldn’t bear to be near a TV !
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 11, 2023 1:41:35 GMT 1
Nowt wrong with a brass band and Abide with me… Maybe younger football supporters are now interested in the instagram type nature of being seen at these sort of events? I’m sure 99% of those City supporters in the stadium tonight didn’t give a shiny shite about the razzmatazz… Never seen so many plastics at a CL final. At one point it showed a group in the crowd and it was a case of spot the English fan. How the clubs supporters have changed at city in the last 15 years. Just another plastic club, can fuck off to the super league for me. Good luck to them, I can’t think of a stadium in football with what would be a worse view of the action than any seat in that horrible ground must have given. Looked like if the town ground had the subs benches across the river and the nearest fans sitting in B&Q….utterly bizarre.
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Post by benhomly on Jun 11, 2023 1:50:21 GMT 1
Been at a big gig in MCR tonight, very amusing how it was full of scousers and no MANCS to be seen. Obvs the scousers couldn’t bear to be near a TV ! I’m assuming it’s the same one I’ve been to and made the comment to my daughter that there were far too many scousers there for my liking
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Post by htfctx on Jun 11, 2023 1:56:43 GMT 1
Good times..
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 11, 2023 4:46:33 GMT 1
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Post by canterburyterrier on Jun 11, 2023 7:27:53 GMT 1
I know we’re moving away from the original intention of the thread, but it does make me wonder if there are tons of plastic fans because of influences like FIFA football games? . Lat year at the play off final I met a Spanish guy (from Barcelona if I remember correctly) in a town shirt. Apparently he started supporting Town because his brother made him play as town on FIFA.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jun 11, 2023 7:33:26 GMT 1
I know we’re moving away from the original intention of the thread, but it does make me wonder if there are tons of plastic fans because of influences like FIFA football games? . Lat year at the play off final I met a Spanish guy (from Barcelona if I remember correctly) in a town shirt. Apparently he started supporting Town because his brother made him play as town on FIFA. I sat next to 4 Chelsea fans in the play-off final but they didn't have any Town colours on.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jun 11, 2023 7:59:08 GMT 1
It’s not just the unlimited volumes of money they can throw at it. They're owned by one of the richest countries in the world and are an exercise in the brand development of that country.
Do governments, especially oil rich ones, not have access to means, contacts and many other advantages that individuals (even billionaires) don’t have access to.
What’s the point of a game of club football when it’s owned by countries. To me it’s just not a competition any more, just a series of investment vehicles for people that don’t even go to the games. Sheik Mansour went to his first City game in 13 years last night.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jun 11, 2023 8:17:03 GMT 1
Well done City - they are one of the best teams ever and managed by genius, The club has an amazing club infrastructure. Half the England U21 are from Citeh and they're all local Manc lads. Also Eastlands has been utterly transformed that side of the City since the investment As for the money argument it's just the traditional big clubs getting salty because Man City have locked them out because they spend their money better and run a slicker football club For years City have stayed to wage structures. I remember them not signing for Alexi Sanchez because he wanted £500k a week ... but Man Utd paid it. In fact Man Utd routinely break the English transfer record and have for decades (in my lifetime Robson, Cole, Veron, Ferdinand and Pogba - nearly Shearer as well) Chelsea wasted half a billion just in the last 12 months ... including £50m on Sterling (which is what City paid for Haaland!) Plucky Liverpool found over £100m for Nunez and Gakpo this year The money obscene but that's football at the top end. City actually spent less than they brough in this summer selling Jesus, Zinchenko and Sterling to buy the new players - www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchester-city/transfers/verein/281As I say I can't begrudge the players, coaches and their fans - who 25 years ago watched them in League One - any of this success
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 11, 2023 8:31:20 GMT 1
If you think Citeh paid 50m for Haaland you're in cloud cuckoo land my friend. More like 200m they spent on him and creative accountancy did the rest.
How can a team with 115 charges of cheating and cooking the books be allowed to play in European competitions, in any competition for that matter. Cheating bastards.
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