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Post by Leporid on Jun 13, 2023 14:11:17 GMT 1
Be interesting to see Nicholls reaction to this... It may be just Dandy with Nicholls... |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jun 13, 2023 14:15:13 GMT 1
Be interesting to see Nicholls reaction to this... I am sure he will be fine, if what club you play for depends on the coach. Then am sure Warnock et al will bring a good expeirenced GK coach in. |
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Post by royrace on Jun 13, 2023 14:16:48 GMT 1
No surprise re Bromby, as managerial appointments go Fotheringham was as bad as you could ever get, still completely baffled as to the thought process behind that one and lets be honest he wouldn't have been solely responsible for it.
I guess with Clem the new man just wants his own team which is normal for someone as experienced as Warnock. Hopefully its an upgrade, or at least not a downgrade.
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Post by bblueterrier on Jun 13, 2023 14:24:04 GMT 1
As has been said not heard particularly glowing reports on Clements as a person but a decent coach by all means. Nicholls & Clem were very much two peas in a pod - I expect Nicholls to leave this summer regardless of Clem staying or not.
As for Bromby again not the nicest guy you"ll ever meet but for all the flack re Fotheringham & Schofield to a certain extent he did do some good things. The club will make a significant profit on some of his signings particularly Rudoni & he was pivotal in bringing Colwill in with some impressive legwork behind the scenes.
All in all I think it's the right decision to clear the decks & make a fresh start.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 13, 2023 14:24:44 GMT 1
Gutted clements has gone, he seemed like a quality coach Depeneds on what you class as "quaility" . You can't really be gutted, when he brought Schofield through, what improvments did he make to him? non that i saw. Nicholls is who he is and is a great keeper regardless. Perriera enough said. Non of the young keepers underh im , have gone out on loan and actually played more than a game at league level.
Now i am not saying "clem" was bad, but the evidence to say he was "quaility" simply doesn't show.
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Post by prepare on Jun 13, 2023 14:27:23 GMT 1
Be interesting to see Nicholls reaction to this... good point but depends what happens |
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Post by Dan on Jun 13, 2023 14:28:24 GMT 1
Depeneds on what you class as "quaility" . You can't really be gutted, when he brought Schofield through, what improvments did he make to him? non that i saw. Nicholls is who he is and is a great keeper regardless. Perriera enough said. Non of the young keepers underh im , have gone out on loan and actually played more than a game at league level.
Now i am not saying "clem" was bad, but the evidence to say he was "quaility" simply doesn't show.
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 13, 2023 14:31:25 GMT 1
Gutted clements has gone, he seemed like a quality coach Depeneds on what you class as "quaility" . You can't really be gutted, when he brought Schofield through, what improvments did he make to him? non that i saw. Nicholls is who he is and is a great keeper regardless. Perriera enough said. Non of the young keepers underh im , have gone out on loan and actually played more than a game at league level.
Now i am not saying "clem" was bad, but the evidence to say he was "quaility" simply doesn't show.
It seems to be the done thing these days, every coach we have is "quality" and a "legend" and everyone "loves" them. |
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Post by morleyterrier on Jun 13, 2023 14:34:11 GMT 1
With some exceptions, you could be blind-folded and stick a pin on a donkey that has potentially available and available Players listed on it and get better signings.
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Post by Sio on Jun 13, 2023 14:36:06 GMT 1
Depeneds on what you class as "quaility" . You can't really be gutted, when he brought Schofield through, what improvments did he make to him? non that i saw. Nicholls is who he is and is a great keeper regardless. Perriera enough said. Non of the young keepers underh im , have gone out on loan and actually played more than a game at league level.
Now i am not saying "clem" was bad, but the evidence to say he was "quaility" simply doesn't show.
It seems to be the done thing these days, every coach we have is "quality" and a "legend" and everyone "loves" them. You're just rattled because you didn't like Narcis 😂 Clem always seemed to want to interact with fans, and gave big celebrations to the stands after wins, so I can see why he was appreciated - especially if reports are to be believed in that he was good at his day job too. On the whole I'd say most coaches go under the radar except one or two who front up and show some character. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 13, 2023 14:40:11 GMT 1
It seems to be the done thing these days, every coach we have is "quality" and a "legend" and everyone "loves" them. You're just rattled because you didn't like Narcis 😂 Clem always seemed to want to interact with fans, and gave big celebrations to the stands after wins, so I can see why he was appreciated - especially if reports are to be believed in that he was good at his day job too. On the whole I'd say most coaches go under the radar except one or two who front up and show some character. How am I rattled? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 13, 2023 14:46:34 GMT 1
Gutted clements has gone, he seemed like a quality coach Depeneds on what you class as "quaility" . You can't really be gutted, when he brought Schofield through, what improvments did he make to him? non that i saw. Nicholls is who he is and is a great keeper regardless. Perriera enough said. Non of the young keepers underh im , have gone out on loan and actually played more than a game at league level.
Now i am not saying "clem" was bad, but the evidence to say he was "quaility" simply doesn't show.
What would he have needed to do to be regarded as quality by you ? |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jun 13, 2023 14:57:57 GMT 1
Depeneds on what you class as "quaility" . You can't really be gutted, when he brought Schofield through, what improvments did he make to him? non that i saw. Nicholls is who he is and is a great keeper regardless. Perriera enough said. Non of the young keepers underh im , have gone out on loan and actually played more than a game at league level.
Now i am not saying "clem" was bad, but the evidence to say he was "quaility" simply doesn't show.
What would he have needed to do to be regarded as quality by you ? Well Schofield, never improved a jot. This is a lad who was in England youth squads? Our young keepers have gone out on loan and hardly played in the league. Yes he picked ncholls out at 27/28 years old , Nicholls is the stand out keeper under his reins not the usual. Perreria , Grabara, Hamer- all looked shakey as shit under his coaching. Bilo may well come good for sure. But there hasn't been a single keeper under him that you think god he has really kicked on.
In fact and this is all opinnion based, i watched a video of his GK drills with Schofield, then he got a back pass the following week from Vajello and stepped back as instructed and , the Watford cf nipped in and scored.
Who the hell coaches a GK to step back when the ball is coming to them, if that was what he was coaching on the regular , then he will be the only one.
I have also heard a lot of negtive thigns about Clem as a person, which doesn't help my prespective on the man.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 15:02:41 GMT 1
I am guessing these changes have come after discussions with NW. There is a reason we have been so poor alternative seasons and goalkeeping has not always been brilliant. Nicholls was a great find and we have some good young lads but that is quite recent. It also depends on how they interacted with the club and other staff, which we don’t have any real knowledge of.
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Post by steo1986 on Jun 13, 2023 15:32:46 GMT 1
I think if we are starting a fresh Maybe we need to look at the fitness coaches we all said the players never looked fit maybe we need a overhaul of the fitness team and also the strength and conditioning side of it too. If we are cleaning house we might as well Start building from fresh now which now is the best opportunity to do this.
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Post by twyford on Jun 13, 2023 16:41:35 GMT 1
What would he have needed to do to be regarded as quality by you ? Well Schofield, never improved a jot. This is a lad who was in England youth squads? Our young keepers have gone out on loan and hardly played in the league. Yes he picked ncholls out at 27/28 years old , Nicholls is the stand out keeper under his reins not the usual. Perreria , Grabara, Hamer- all looked shakey as shit under his coaching. Bilo may well come good for sure. But there hasn't been a single keeper under him that you think god he has really kicked on.
In fact and this is all opinnion based, i watched a video of his GK drills with Schofield, then he got a back pass the following week from Vajello and stepped back as instructed and , the Watford cf nipped in and scored.
Who the hell coaches a GK to step back when the ball is coming to them, if that was what he was coaching on the regular , then he will be the only one.
I have also heard a lot of negtive thigns about Clem as a person, which doesn't help my prespective on the man.
Don't know if it was coached or not but was very noticeable with Schofield - at times stepping back into the actual goal whilst waiting for the ball to come to him. Going to meet the ball seems a more obvious strategy to me - gives more time to control the ball with the closing attacker not being as near, and then decide on the pass to make or, if necessary, move the ball to create a passing opportunity. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 13, 2023 17:15:25 GMT 1
Be interesting to see Nicholls reaction to this... It may be just Dandy with Nicholls... All good in sickness and health. And I’ll raise you Nina Baden- Semper! |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 13, 2023 17:50:03 GMT 1
I liked what I saw of Clements. But then again, he's the only goalkeeping coach I've ever seen anything of due to all the inside training videos being while he was at the club!
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 13, 2023 17:56:42 GMT 1
Depeneds on what you class as "quaility" . You can't really be gutted, when he brought Schofield through, what improvments did he make to him? non that i saw. Nicholls is who he is and is a great keeper regardless. Perriera enough said. Non of the young keepers underh im , have gone out on loan and actually played more than a game at league level.
Now i am not saying "clem" was bad, but the evidence to say he was "quaility" simply doesn't show.
It seems to be the done thing these days, every coach we have is "quality" and a "legend" and everyone "loves" them. it only seems to be the ones that have given off a particularly good impression to the fans. For every Clements we've had the last few years there's been a Paul Harsley, Andreas Winkler, etc. Even some associated with good times- I don't see any love for Andrew Hughes, who was a coach in the last promotion team, for example. |
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Post by hartyhtfc on Jun 13, 2023 17:59:18 GMT 1
Clements was well liked and respected I thought. Heard from a Norwich fan I know that they tried to poach him alongside Pelach, so wouldn't shock me if he appears there very soon.
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jun 13, 2023 18:02:32 GMT 1
Gutted clements has gone, he seemed like a quality coach Depeneds on what you class as "quaility" . You can't really be gutted, when he brought Schofield through, what improvments did he make to him? non that i saw. Nicholls is who he is and is a great keeper regardless. Perriera enough said. Non of the young keepers underh im , have gone out on loan and actually played more than a game at league level.
Now i am not saying "clem" was bad, but the evidence to say he was "quaility" simply doesn't show.
Yes he was coaching Schofield but it wasn't his decision to a) sell off our first team keeper in Hamer or b) promote Schofield to first choice way before he was remotely ready. That decision ruined Schofield and subsequently any progress he was likely to make. |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Jun 13, 2023 21:46:19 GMT 1
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Post by Dan on Jun 14, 2023 17:31:37 GMT 1
Warnock appearing to confirm getting rid of Clements was his decision. Nothing to do with his coaching, just wanted someone he knew.
Nagle's taken some flack on twitter off a few weapons for that one...
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Post by runner76 on Jun 14, 2023 17:36:51 GMT 1
so Ian bennet coming back in the GK coach role
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Post by dezzly on Jun 14, 2023 20:42:16 GMT 1
Warnock appearing to confirm getting rid of Clements was his decision. Nothing to do with his coaching, just wanted someone he knew. Nagle's taken some flack on twitter off a few weapons for that one... Was always likely to be the case.warnock will want people who knows what he’s about and what he’s wants 100%.he knows it’s a tough division this season especially(on paper anyway) and won’t want to leave anything to chance.it’s unfortunate for clem but that’s football isn’t it.pretty sure won’t be long before he pops up somewhere neither |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 15, 2023 9:13:24 GMT 1
Warnock appearing to confirm getting rid of Clements was his decision. Nothing to do with his coaching, just wanted someone he knew. Nagle's taken some flack on twitter off a few weapons for that one... I think after a while you just need a different voice.. saying different things. Nicholls etc have probably learned everything theyre going to learn off Clements by now... so theyre just doing the same things over and over. A different coach ( Bennett ) will say new things, and have new ways of doing things. Dont think its any slight on Clements..just that its something that needs a re-fresh. Nagle will have to get used to idiots digging him out on social media every time anything happens they dont like the sound of. Comes with the job. |
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Post by iangreaves on Jun 15, 2023 9:27:07 GMT 1
I seem to recall that Clements' replacement of Colgan was a bit controversial. Colgan considered legal action.
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Post by rockwall on Jun 15, 2023 9:30:56 GMT 1
Warnock appearing to confirm getting rid of Clements was his decision. Nothing to do with his coaching, just wanted someone he knew. Nagle's taken some flack on twitter off a few weapons for that one... I think after a while you just need a different voice.. saying different things. Nicholls etc have probably learned everything theyre going to learn off Clements by now... so theyre just doing the same things over and over. A different coach ( Bennett ) will say new things, and have new ways of doing things. Dont think its any slight on Clements..just that its something that needs a re-fresh. Nagle will have to get used to idiots digging him out on social media every time anything happens they dont like the sound of. Comes with the job. As good as Clem was. A full freshen up behind the scenes is what is needed. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jun 15, 2023 9:38:08 GMT 1
Depeneds on what you class as "quaility" . You can't really be gutted, when he brought Schofield through, what improvments did he make to him? non that i saw. Nicholls is who he is and is a great keeper regardless. Perriera enough said. Non of the young keepers underh im , have gone out on loan and actually played more than a game at league level.
Now i am not saying "clem" was bad, but the evidence to say he was "quaility" simply doesn't show.
It seems to be the done thing these days, every coach we have is "quality" and a "legend" and everyone "loves" them. Until they leave. |
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Post by irverino on Jun 15, 2023 9:57:44 GMT 1
Warnock shows loyalty to his keepers as we know in Kenny & Bennett, when he managed Town 1st time around Super Stevie Francis played virtually every match for NW which included two Wembley appearances, plus picking up Player of the season in 94'.
One of Francis strongest part of his game was the way he commanded the penalty area, he was excellent at collecting dangerous crosses & snuffing out opposition aerial threat. Lee Nicholls is another fantastic keeper for Town, as good or better than Stevie?.......not yet for me, but with a bit of fine tuning he will.
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