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Post by htafcokay on Jun 15, 2023 10:01:57 GMT 1
I seem to recall that Clements' replacement of Colgan was a bit controversial. Colgan considered legal action. Clements stitched Colgan up. Allegedly. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 15, 2023 10:07:03 GMT 1
Warnock shows loyalty to his keepers as we know in Kenny & Bennett, when he managed Town 1st time around Super Stevie Francis played virtually every match for NW which included two Wembley appearances, plus picking up Player of the season in 94'. One of Francis strongest part of his game was the way he commanded the penalty area, he was excellent at collecting dangerous crosses & snuffing out opposition aerial threat. Lee Nicholls is another fantastic keeper for Town, as good or better than Stevie?.......not yet for me, but with a bit of fine tuning he will. Great points. But when you consider that Nicholls influences, motivates, organises and upsets away fans, I’d place him above Francis personally. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 15, 2023 10:34:13 GMT 1
Clements: head of academy goalkeeping 2015-17, then head of goalkeeping 2017-23. On reflection that's not really been a good time for us in terms of keepers.
In that time we've only really had 2 goalkeepers that have seemed particularly well coached- Nicholls and Lossl. Maybe Hamer to an extent as he improved a lot in his last season. But in and amongst that, there's been some keepers with clear deficiencies that didn't really improve. How has Ryan Schofield gone from an England youth international, who was quite promising in his first few games, to the player he is now? Grabara was very highly rated when he arrived, but went backwards.
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Post by portugalterrier on Jun 15, 2023 10:42:18 GMT 1
Clements: head of academy goalkeeping 2015-17, then head of goalkeeping 2017-23. On reflection that's not really been a good time for us in terms of keepers. In that time we've only really had 2 goalkeepers that have seemed particularly well coached- Nicholls and Lossl. Maybe Hamer to an extent as he improved a lot in his last season. But in and amongst that, there's been some keepers with clear deficiencies that didn't really improve. How has Ryan Schofield gone from an England youth international, who was quite promising in his first few games, to the player he is now? Grabara was very highly rated when he arrived, but went backwards. Ward. |
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Post by terriers2000 on Jun 15, 2023 10:44:05 GMT 1
Clements: head of academy goalkeeping 2015-17, then head of goalkeeping 2017-23. On reflection that's not really been a good time for us in terms of keepers. In that time we've only really had 2 goalkeepers that have seemed particularly well coached- Nicholls and Lossl. Maybe Hamer to an extent as he improved a lot in his last season. But in and amongst that, there's been some keepers with clear deficiencies that didn't really improve. How has Ryan Schofield gone from an England youth international, who was quite promising in his first few games, to the player he is now? Grabara was very highly rated when he arrived, but went backwards. Don't forget Joel Pereira |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jun 15, 2023 10:48:56 GMT 1
Clements: head of academy goalkeeping 2015-17, then head of goalkeeping 2017-23. On reflection that's not really been a good time for us in terms of keepers. In that time we've only really had 2 goalkeepers that have seemed particularly well coached- Nicholls and Lossl. Maybe Hamer to an extent as he improved a lot in his last season. But in and amongst that, there's been some keepers with clear deficiencies that didn't really improve. How has Ryan Schofield gone from an England youth international, who was quite promising in his first few games, to the player he is now? Grabara was very highly rated when he arrived, but went backwards. Ward. Didn't colgan coach ward? |
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Post by mooythegoat on Jun 15, 2023 10:50:09 GMT 1
Didn't colgan coach ward? Ward was pretty average until the playoffs, I remember some wanting Coleman to start the second leg too. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 15, 2023 10:50:23 GMT 1
Clements: head of academy goalkeeping 2015-17, then head of goalkeeping 2017-23. On reflection that's not really been a good time for us in terms of keepers. In that time we've only really had 2 goalkeepers that have seemed particularly well coached- Nicholls and Lossl. Maybe Hamer to an extent as he improved a lot in his last season. But in and amongst that, there's been some keepers with clear deficiencies that didn't really improve. How has Ryan Schofield gone from an England youth international, who was quite promising in his first few games, to the player he is now? Grabara was very highly rated when he arrived, but went backwards. Ward. .. had left the club by the time Clements became head of goalkeeping. |
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Post by alexdire on Jun 15, 2023 11:00:59 GMT 1
Clements: head of academy goalkeeping 2015-17, then head of goalkeeping 2017-23. On reflection that's not really been a good time for us in terms of keepers. In that time we've only really had 2 goalkeepers that have seemed particularly well coached- Nicholls and Lossl. Maybe Hamer to an extent as he improved a lot in his last season. But in and amongst that, there's been some keepers with clear deficiencies that didn't really improve. How has Ryan Schofield gone from an England youth international, who was quite promising in his first few games, to the player he is now? Grabara was very highly rated when he arrived, but went backwards. I thought Steer we had on loan from Villa in 15/16 was decent. Just looked him up he's now thirty. Been on loan a couple of times. A couple of long injuries. But he's hardly played a game since leaving us. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Jun 15, 2023 11:03:24 GMT 1
Clements: head of academy goalkeeping 2015-17, then head of goalkeeping 2017-23. On reflection that's not really been a good time for us in terms of keepers. In that time we've only really had 2 goalkeepers that have seemed particularly well coached- Nicholls and Lossl. Maybe Hamer to an extent as he improved a lot in his last season. But in and amongst that, there's been some keepers with clear deficiencies that didn't really improve. How has Ryan Schofield gone from an England youth international, who was quite promising in his first few games, to the player he is now? Grabara was very highly rated when he arrived, but went backwards. I thought Steer we had on loan from Villa in 15/16 was decent. Just looked him up he's now thirty. Been on loan a couple of times. A couple of long injuries. But he's hardly played a game since leaving us. Thought I’d read he has just retired due to injuries. |
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Post by royrace on Jun 15, 2023 11:53:47 GMT 1
I thought Steer we had on loan from Villa in 15/16 was decent. Just looked him up he's now thirty. Been on loan a couple of times. A couple of long injuries. But he's hardly played a game since leaving us. Thought I’d read he has just retired due to injuries. Played for Villa in their last game I think, been out on loan a lot. I remember him being quite average for a PL keeper when we had him but I dare say he's improved a lot over the years, probably a steady champ keeper. Hope we can keep Nicholls, best in the league based on his form the season before last and looked good again after his return from injury. Absolutely vital position. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 15, 2023 12:12:26 GMT 1
Warnock shows loyalty to his keepers as we know in Kenny & Bennett, when he managed Town 1st time around Super Stevie Francis played virtually every match for NW which included two Wembley appearances, plus picking up Player of the season in 94'. One of Francis strongest part of his game was the way he commanded the penalty area, he was excellent at collecting dangerous crosses & snuffing out opposition aerial threat. Lee Nicholls is another fantastic keeper for Town, as good or better than Stevie?.......not yet for me, but with a bit of fine tuning he will. Great points. But when you consider that Nicholls influences, motivates, organises and upsets away fans, I’d place him above Francis personally. Way above IMO. |
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Post by alexdire on Jun 15, 2023 12:19:19 GMT 1
I thought Steer we had on loan from Villa in 15/16 was decent. Just looked him up he's now thirty. Been on loan a couple of times. A couple of long injuries. But he's hardly played a game since leaving us. Thought I’d read he has just retired due to injuries. When I looked at his injuries, he'll be retiring soon. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 15, 2023 12:48:33 GMT 1
Warnock shows loyalty to his keepers as we know in Kenny & Bennett, when he managed Town 1st time around Super Stevie Francis played virtually every match for NW which included two Wembley appearances, plus picking up Player of the season in 94'. One of Francis strongest part of his game was the way he commanded the penalty area, he was excellent at collecting dangerous crosses & snuffing out opposition aerial threat. Lee Nicholls is another fantastic keeper for Town, as good or better than Stevie?.......not yet for me, but with a bit of fine tuning he will. So you're saying Nicholls is only the 4th best Town keeper in the last 30 years, cos Nico and Steve Harper were better than Francis and I'd probably put Smithies and Lossl above him too |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 15, 2023 12:49:59 GMT 1
Clements: head of academy goalkeeping 2015-17, then head of goalkeeping 2017-23. On reflection that's not really been a good time for us in terms of keepers. In that time we've only really had 2 goalkeepers that have seemed particularly well coached- Nicholls and Lossl. Maybe Hamer to an extent as he improved a lot in his last season. But in and amongst that, there's been some keepers with clear deficiencies that didn't really improve. How has Ryan Schofield gone from an England youth international, who was quite promising in his first few games, to the player he is now? Grabara was very highly rated when he arrived, but went backwards. Ward. Great at pens, average at everything else 🤔 |
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Post by irverino on Jun 15, 2023 13:04:24 GMT 1
Warnock shows loyalty to his keepers as we know in Kenny & Bennett, when he managed Town 1st time around Super Stevie Francis played virtually every match for NW which included two Wembley appearances, plus picking up Player of the season in 94'. One of Francis strongest part of his game was the way he commanded the penalty area, he was excellent at collecting dangerous crosses & snuffing out opposition aerial threat. Lee Nicholls is another fantastic keeper for Town, as good or better than Stevie?.......not yet for me, but with a bit of fine tuning he will. So you're saying Nicholls is only the 4th best Town keeper in the last 30 years, cos Nico and Steve Harper were better than Francis and I'd probably put Smithies and Lossl above him too Harper was very good, so was Terry Poole & Alan Starling of the keepers I've watched.......could be fifth, matter of opinions I suppose. |
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Post by Lightcliffe Terrier on Jun 15, 2023 13:30:46 GMT 1
Didn’t Warnock come out with a comment about the new coaches along the lines he didn’t need to chase them up to see what they were doing. He could just trust them to get on with it? I may be wrong but sure he said that.
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 15, 2023 13:48:13 GMT 1
I think the fact that Pelach and Clements took a back seat once Wranock and Jepson arrived tells you a lot.
It's refreshing to see a manager bring his own staff in and not have a previous manager's/managers' staff imposed on him.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jun 15, 2023 14:09:13 GMT 1
Warnock shows loyalty to his keepers as we know in Kenny & Bennett, when he managed Town 1st time around Super Stevie Francis played virtually every match for NW which included two Wembley appearances, plus picking up Player of the season in 94'. One of Francis strongest part of his game was the way he commanded the penalty area, he was excellent at collecting dangerous crosses & snuffing out opposition aerial threat. Lee Nicholls is another fantastic keeper for Town, as good or better than Stevie?.......not yet for me, but with a bit of fine tuning he will. My recollection of Francis was a fantastic shot stopper, but too frequently glued to his line. Maybe my memory is deceiving me. In-line with that, I'd have Nicholls comfortably ahead of him......if I ignore my often shite memory 😄 |
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Post by crux on Jun 15, 2023 14:10:15 GMT 1
Didn’t Warnock come out with a comment about the new coaches along the lines he didn’t need to chase them up to see what they were doing. He could just trust them to get on with it? I may be wrong but sure he said that. It was more than he knew that they knew exactly what he wanted them to do, and they'd get on with it. If you get a new boss and you've been doing your job a certain way for a while, then if the new boss wants it doing differently, or something else doing entirely. It can take a while for everything to bed in properly and sometimes it doesn't. |
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Post by stable on Jun 15, 2023 14:12:38 GMT 1
Warnock shows loyalty to his keepers as we know in Kenny & Bennett, when he managed Town 1st time around Super Stevie Francis played virtually every match for NW which included two Wembley appearances, plus picking up Player of the season in 94'. One of Francis strongest part of his game was the way he commanded the penalty area, he was excellent at collecting dangerous crosses & snuffing out opposition aerial threat. Lee Nicholls is another fantastic keeper for Town, as good or better than Stevie?.......not yet for me, but with a bit of fine tuning he will. My recollection of Francis was a fantastic shot stopper, but too frequently glued to his line. Maybe my memory is deceiving me. In-line with that, I'd have Nicholls comfortably ahead of him......if I ignore my often shite memory 😄 Same memory here - Was excellent at stopping shots but way short on dealing with crosses |
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Post by Colin the Caterpillar on Jun 15, 2023 14:16:42 GMT 1
Didn’t Warnock come out with a comment about the new coaches along the lines he didn’t need to chase them up to see what they were doing. He could just trust them to get on with it? I may be wrong but sure he said that. He did. Reading between the lines I think Clements had built himself a little empire where he was the boss (who has ever previously heard of a ‘head of goalkeeping ‘?). Now Warnock is the boss |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 15, 2023 19:08:54 GMT 1
Warnock shows loyalty to his keepers as we know in Kenny & Bennett, when he managed Town 1st time around Super Stevie Francis played virtually every match for NW which included two Wembley appearances, plus picking up Player of the season in 94'. One of Francis strongest part of his game was the way he commanded the penalty area, he was excellent at collecting dangerous crosses & snuffing out opposition aerial threat. Lee Nicholls is another fantastic keeper for Town, as good or better than Stevie?.......not yet for me, but with a bit of fine tuning he will. My recollection of Francis was a fantastic shot stopper, but too frequently glued to his line. Maybe my memory is deceiving me. In-line with that, I'd have Nicholls comfortably ahead of him......if I ignore my often shite memory 😄 Your recollection is correct. Francis was a good keeper & shot stopper but to say he was good at commanding his area & excellent at collecting dangerous crosses is just rubbish. That was the weakest part of his game. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jun 15, 2023 19:15:35 GMT 1
My recollection of Francis was a fantastic shot stopper, but too frequently glued to his line. Maybe my memory is deceiving me. In-line with that, I'd have Nicholls comfortably ahead of him......if I ignore my often shite memory 😄 Your recollection is correct. Francis was a good keeper & shot stopper but to say he was good at commanding his area & excellent at collecting dangerous crosses is just rubbish. That was the weakest part of his game. I agree on what you say about Francis, not been very good at the commanding of the box area. This is possibly why Warnock got quite a few bigger players into the team, to help with this. Francis wasn't the tallest of keeper 6ft i believe. Spesh at that level , at that time in football, wasn't very tall, for all the long balls. |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 16, 2023 6:53:10 GMT 1
Tim Clarke has to be the best town keeper
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Post by irverino on Jun 16, 2023 10:28:01 GMT 1
Tim Clarke has to be the best town keeper After Steve Francis nightmare home debut against his former club Reading on the opening day of the season (93-94) I'm sure I heard one or two quip 'bring back Tim', thankfully Warnock knew better picking his new keeper for all 61 games that season........Stood directly behind the goals at Carlisle (2nd leg) & going 2-0 down early on Francis remained the calmest of all, not sure Tim would have? |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jun 16, 2023 10:30:07 GMT 1
Can i ask if anyone knows, what was the ear piece, in Clements ear for ?
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 16, 2023 10:33:48 GMT 1
Can i ask if anyone knows, what was the ear piece, in Clements ear for ? Same with Nicky Cowley. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jun 16, 2023 10:37:31 GMT 1
Can i ask if anyone knows, what was the ear piece, in Clements ear for ? Same with Nicky Cowley. Yeah its like , we have to have one member with an ear piece. Are they listening to the radio or something ? scores or something. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 16, 2023 11:00:08 GMT 1
Yeah its like , we have to have one member with an ear piece. Are they listening to the radio or something ? scores or something. Communicating with Bromby who was watching from the box. |
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