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Post by htafcokay on Jul 11, 2023 6:47:50 GMT 1
So basically you can't answer š I can back up any of my opinions with reasons for having those opinions. Unlike you. As I said, pointless. Crack on withĀ the waffle though.Ā As I said, you can't answer š Are all the other people on this thread who have said the same thing talking waffle as well? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2023 7:04:16 GMT 1
I wasn't against him coming back - it was the three-year contract that shocked me. Then again, who knows whether that was what he was offered, or what he was prepared to take.
Thought his all-round game looked a little better for his time away - but he's also that much older.
I'm not tactically savvy enough to know what it is that stops Warnock from playing him, but I won't question it. Time to move on - just need to find a taker that can match his wages etc.
MouniƩ coming back, on the other hand...
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jul 11, 2023 7:23:11 GMT 1
Best of luck Jordan, and thank you for your service. You always put a shift in and never let us down.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 11, 2023 7:42:12 GMT 1
As soon as it was announced that Ward had signed a new contract (and TBH even before that) it was always likely that Rhodes would be leaving. That makes sense. Replacing with Mark Harris would be a head scratcher though. A striker that has averaged less than 1 in 10, never managed more than 4 goals in a season, doesn't appear to have any outstanding qualities beyond work rate and is widely regarded as being Lg2 level by Cardiff fans. A poor man's Martyn Waghorn? Mark Harris also known as a player we havenāt signed so why the head scratch?! š¤·āāļø Note that I said, "would be". |
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Post by foxtrot666 on Jul 11, 2023 8:45:26 GMT 1
Best of luck Jordan, and thank you for your service. You always put a shift in and never let us down. Don't think anyone could disagree with that, always gave 100% but didn't really work out 2nd time around, different style of play from his first stint when we had a more attacking side with Pilks, Roberts and Novak supplying the ammunition. Could still be a good signing for a league 2 side who create chances. |
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Post by King Neil on Jul 11, 2023 9:02:05 GMT 1
In comparison jordan is a sniper...one on one with the keeper he scores every time and also any chances around the box
We don't play to his strengths...he will end up at a club like Rotherham who are more direct and get lots of chances and score a bagful,,then some on here will be scratching their heads
I love wardy...but he couldn't hit a barn door in his first spell at the club...did all the hard work and always fluffed his lines...early on against posh at old Trafford he put an easy chance onto the post like he did most games
Jordan scores nearly every chance he gets
Wardy 50 percent at best
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 11, 2023 9:02:53 GMT 1
We can't complain from what we got from Jordan - in transfer fees & goals he's been tremendous value. In his first spell, he was superb to watch, never the quickest until he needed to find a yard in the box & he had that skill that can't be taught, knowing where to be at the right time.
He has been a superb player for this club & I wish him nothing but the best going forward.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 11, 2023 9:09:48 GMT 1
2016 last time he scored double figures in the league.
in 18/19 he scored 6 in 39 appearance for a norwich side that walked this league.
Hindsight?
Was off the scale first time around, should never have been brought back.
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Post by ambryboy on Jul 11, 2023 9:11:15 GMT 1
This isn't an argument, it's just contradiction No it isn't... |
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Jul 11, 2023 9:15:37 GMT 1
He will be remembered here overall as a great player who scored goals. The 3 year contract was puzzling but I saw him at the time has a upgrade on Campbell.
We move on good luck Jordan.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 11, 2023 9:18:46 GMT 1
2016 last time he scored double figures in the league. in 18/19 he scored 6 in 39 appearance for a norwich side that walked this league. Hindsight? Was off the scale first time around, should never have been brought back. Moron. |
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Post by King Neil on Jul 11, 2023 9:25:07 GMT 1
Danny ward 219 appearances 39 goals
Jordan Rhodes 175 appearances 81 goals
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Post by townrwe on Jul 11, 2023 9:25:56 GMT 1
I dont think anyone could argue that Rhodes isn't a great pro.. It was a mistake bringing him back when we basically have played a loan striker the whole time. Although he's adapted his game and coped well when called upon, it's not a role that uses his strengths and the money could be used to bring someone in that has the correct attributes for the role.
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Post by crux on Jul 11, 2023 9:47:06 GMT 1
This isn't an argument, it's just contradiction No it isn't... An argument is a connected series of statements to establish a definite proposition. Contradiction is just saying to opposite of what the other person says....... At least one or two of you are as old as I am š¤£š¤£š¤£ |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 11, 2023 9:53:34 GMT 1
Danny ward 219 appearances 39 goals Jordan Rhodes 175 appearances 81 goals It's actually: Danny Ward - 243 appearances, 41 goals. Jordan Rhodes - 211 appearances, 97 goals. |
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Post by King Neil on Jul 11, 2023 9:57:43 GMT 1
Danny ward 219 appearances 39 goals Jordan Rhodes 175 appearances 81 goals It's actually: Danny Ward - 243 appearances, 41 goals. Jordan Rhodes - 211 appearances, 97 goals. I stand corrected..Wikipedia must be out of date I will give Jordan the same respect as I give Andy booth and Markus Stewart A true Town legend |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 11, 2023 10:02:10 GMT 1
It's actually: Danny Ward - 243 appearances, 41 goals. Jordan Rhodes - 211 appearances, 97 goals. I stand corrected..Wikipedia must be out of date I will give Jordan the same respect as I give Andy booth and Markus Stewart A true Town legend
Jordan Rhodes is a Town legend, anyone that scores 40 goals in a promotion season is exactly that.
It's just a shame that he's been nowhere near as good the second time around or since he left Blackburn, really. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 11, 2023 10:02:11 GMT 1
Danny ward 219 appearances 39 goals Jordan Rhodes 175 appearances 81 goals Sorry about your lad going, Andy. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 11, 2023 10:06:54 GMT 1
Danny ward 219 appearances 39 goals Jordan Rhodes 175 appearances 81 goals Sorry about your lad going, Andy. Wonder if he's throwing his weight around the office again like he did with Clibbens first time around? I do find it funny how when people question the re-signing of Ruffels, everyone says "I trust Warnock" but when it's looking likely that Rhodes is on his way out, it's "Warnock is wrong". It's nice to see that a few people are singing from the same hymn sheet as me, though notice they haven't been called morons  |
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Post by King Neil on Jul 11, 2023 10:20:18 GMT 1
Danny ward 219 appearances 39 goals Jordan Rhodes 175 appearances 81 goals Sorry about your lad going, Andy. It is what it is!! The lad has been a great servant to this club and deserves a bit of respect..that's all I'm saying Imagine that he may read this...he will be thinking ungrateful barstuds!! |
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Post by atowninessex on Jul 11, 2023 10:30:27 GMT 1
3 years was a head scratcher but he's done wonders for the club especially in his first spell,
always been a gent, i remeber at wycombe away pre match shooting practise he drilled one wide and hit a lady
smack in the head - he was straight into the crowd to say sorry - she happily gave him a cuddle!
also playoff season his assista nd goal at middlesborough and in the semi final against luton,
i think he should have started in the final then who knows
can only wish him well
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Post by harris on Jul 11, 2023 10:31:59 GMT 1
Let me get this right, we are discussing a centre forward that has scored 10 goals in 63 games. In his previous spell he scored 87 goals in 148 games. And people are saying I'm talking shite when I say he's not the same player? Adding to that, Warnock clearly doesn't rate him either. So is he wrong as well? Iām not saying heās the same playerā¦ but you canāt ignore the fact that in his first spell he probably started and finished the majority of games of those 148. And in his latest spell he started a handful. 63 games playing 5-10 mins isnāt the same as 148 games playing 90 mins (as an extreme example). He scored some crucial goals last season & this season with very little opportunity. This season is probably one too many at his age & considering weāre trying to free up wages, but I donāt think we should regret signing him whatsoever. |
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Post by ambryboy on Jul 11, 2023 10:33:56 GMT 1
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Post by crux on Jul 11, 2023 10:34:41 GMT 1
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 11, 2023 10:38:09 GMT 1
Let me get this right, we are discussing a centre forward that has scored 10 goals in 63 games. In his previous spell he scored 87 goals in 148 games. And people are saying I'm talking shite when I say he's not the same player? Adding to that, Warnock clearly doesn't rate him either. So is he wrong as well? Iām not saying heās the same playerā¦ but you canāt ignore the fact that in his first spell he probably started and finished the majority of games of those 148. And in his latest spell he started a handful. 63 games playing 5-10 mins isnāt the same as 148 games playing 90 mins (as an extreme example). He scored some crucial goals last season & this season with very little opportunity. This season is probably one too many at his age & considering weāre trying to free up wages, but I donāt think we should regret signing him whatsoever. Why hasn't he started many games in his second spell? Surely if he's as good as you and others on this thread are suggesting, he'd be a regular starter? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 11, 2023 10:43:15 GMT 1
Sorry about your lad going, Andy. It is what it is!! The lad has been a great servant to this club and deserves a bit of respect..that's all I'm saying Imagine that he may read this...he will be thinking ungrateful barstuds!! I think he ought to be grateful to Huddersfield Town seeing as though it was us that gave him a career and put him in the shop window. We then gave him a three-year contract at a time when he was a free agent and no-one else wanted him. I still think he wasted his career by going to Blackburn. At that time, he was good enough to play in the Premier League and should have. If he'd have stuck with us until January in that first Championship season, I think he'd have done enough to get interest from the Premier League. While he may have trebled his wages, going to Blackburn was always a sideways move in football terms, to a club that are no bigger than us and were going absolutely nowhere at that time. A player with that finishing ability should have done SO much more with his career. Funnily enough, if he'd have stuck with us he'd have had at least two seasons in the Premier League as opposed to the six matches he ended up playing at that level. |
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Post by harris on Jul 11, 2023 10:48:17 GMT 1
Iām not saying heās the same playerā¦ but you canāt ignore the fact that in his first spell he probably started and finished the majority of games of those 148. And in his latest spell he started a handful. 63 games playing 5-10 mins isnāt the same as 148 games playing 90 mins (as an extreme example). He scored some crucial goals last season & this season with very little opportunity. This season is probably one too many at his age & considering weāre trying to free up wages, but I donāt think we should regret signing him whatsoever. Why hasn't he started many games in his second spell? Surely if he's as good as you and others on this thread are suggesting, he'd be a regular starter? Age. Heās too old to regularly start at this level. But heās still good enough and clever enough to have an impact off the bench, which is why we signed him. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 11, 2023 10:51:04 GMT 1
Why hasn't he started many games in his second spell? Surely if he's as good as you and others on this thread are suggesting, he'd be a regular starter? Age. Heās too old to regularly start at this level. But heās still good enough and clever enough to have an impact off the bench, which is why we signed him. We signed him because his Dad asked Phil Hodgkinson if he could come back and because he'd played for us before. Jordan Rhodes was 31 when he signed for us, I wouldn't say that a 31 year old is "too old" to be regularly starting at Championship especially considering the ages of some of his teammates. |
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