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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 19, 2023 10:28:32 GMT 1
Sweden as good as there in third place, 2-0 v Aussies now.
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Post by rickrast on Aug 19, 2023 10:30:05 GMT 1
I've not been following this tournament very closely....but from what I have seen, I'm surprised there are so few coloured players in what is a top English soccer squad (very different from the male game). They appear to be a group of pony-tailed blondes......cute!
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Post by drewden on Aug 19, 2023 10:41:19 GMT 1
i see Beckham is inm trouble for calling them girls. Always some card offended. Wrighty alway calls them girls and they love him to bits Girls, Women, lasses, ladies, take your pick.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Aug 19, 2023 10:52:31 GMT 1
Ultimately, the league should have just cancelled the fixture and avoided this scenario rather than allowing a postponement should both teams agree. Or better, realised the Women's World Cup final is on Sunday 20th where there would be a pretty good chance that the reigning European Champs would make it, or that some players might want to watch the showpiece match regardless of which nation got there, and not arrange fixtures on that date in the first place. Newcastle are a now a fully professional outfit so it's very reasonable to expect them to fulfil a home fixture that they would have been preparing for for weeks, where around 2,000 fans would be present, and while there obviously is a big gap between some of the teams in the league, it is the third tier of English football, both will be among the best 25-35 teams in the country, not some 11.30am hungover Sunday League or IntraMural Uni kick about that can easily be shifted without a moments thought. The match obviously isn't happening, and I'd imagine it will eventually be rearranged and played out as Newcastle will generally be portrayed as the big, bad Saudi's throwing their weight and money around and lacking compassion, and it is a bit of an unfortunate situation because it obviously is a big occasion, especially for females, but if one team can't, or won't, fulfil their scheduled fixture, that the league hasn't itself cancelled, then it really should be 3-0 walkover. The league really should have taken a lead on this. Given that the World Cup final tomorrow is the pinnacle of their game, it would have made sense not to have had any fixtures on that day, and kick off their season next weekend. It is the only game that has been postponed but, to be fair, it's the one that involves the away team having to make the longest journey. Putting the kick off back to 3pm (as suggested by Newcastle) would make no difference to Halifax, they would still have to miss the World Cup final to get there, or set off at a ridiculously early time to get there to watch the game. I appreciate it's difficult for Newcastle as they are a fully professional outfit now and I can see that they are frustrated by it. For me, though, it was the comment by someone who genuinely thought that Halifax would have the funds to pay for an overnight stop (at 3 days notice).
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Post by benhomly on Aug 19, 2023 11:12:00 GMT 1
Granddaughter Margot’s first birthday this Sunday, so a Bucks Fizz breakfast is planned, then we’ll sit down to watch the WWC Final, followed by a bit of a do for the little darling. Going to be a good day. You really do live The Good Life down there don't you Walton Terrier
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 19, 2023 13:33:26 GMT 1
Can't read the replies but, IMO, Halifax don't have a leg to stand on. It sounds like the league were happy to postpone the game, providing both teams agreed - Newcastle didn't, so the game should go ahead as planned & if Halifax don't fulfil the fixture, they should be punished.
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 19, 2023 13:37:46 GMT 1
Granddaughter Margot’s first birthday this Sunday, so a Bucks Fizz breakfast is planned, then we’ll sit down to watch the WWC Final, followed by a bit of a do for the little darling. Going to be a good day. Last I heard about the Bucks Fizz breakfast you were Making Your Mind Up
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 19, 2023 16:15:10 GMT 1
Can't read the replies but, IMO, Halifax don't have a leg to stand on. It sounds like the league were happy to postpone the game, providing both teams agreed - Newcastle didn't, so the game should go ahead as planned & if Halifax don't fulfil the fixture, they should be punished. You're right - however the bigger picture is that the league itself make an utterly stupid decision of scheduling the first round of fixtures to coincide with the World Cup final in the first place, and then when England got to the semi's, should have postponed all fixtures with the weeks notice. Teams in the mens game that are more divisions away from the top flight than Halifax FC women are, such as Bradford City, didn't play a game the week of the mens World Cup final in December.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Aug 19, 2023 17:19:31 GMT 1
Can't read the replies but, IMO, Halifax don't have a leg to stand on. It sounds like the league were happy to postpone the game, providing both teams agreed - Newcastle didn't, so the game should go ahead as planned & if Halifax don't fulfil the fixture, they should be punished. I'm sure you're right in law, but Newcastle have failed in terms of spirit. Saudi owned.....
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 19, 2023 22:59:25 GMT 1
I've not been following this tournament very closely....but from what I have seen, I'm surprised there are so few coloured players in what is a top English soccer squad (very different from the male game). They appear to be a group of pony-tailed blondes......cute! Your choice of words is a bit clumsy but I agree with your general point, I remember reading something off the back of similar observations on the lack of diversity in the Euro winning squad compared to a typical men’s team… …the conclusions were along the lines of it being a much smaller participatory sport compared to boys football, and brings in much lower revenues than the semi pro men’s game, but to meet licensing regulations etc, a lot of the decent women’s teams have had to go out and establish bases in the suburbs and rural locations which creates a tendency for middle classism and kids playing for those clubs being the kids whose parents can drive them there….with simple math meaning that when you cut accessibility, minorities are going to become even smaller then you’d expect from a regular cross section of society. Look where Town ladies play 🤷‍♂️ There ARE a few black players in the Lioness squad, and every game they go on helps to put out there to young black kids that football is for “people who look like they do”…but until (and I suspect this will NEVER happen) there’s a girls youth football system approaching as big as there is for boys, the likelihood is that young black girls will continue to be filtered to an extent at the top end of the game.
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Aug 19, 2023 23:33:59 GMT 1
I've not been following this tournament very closely....but from what I have seen, I'm surprised there are so few coloured players in what is a top English soccer squad (very different from the male game). They appear to be a group of pony-tailed blondes......cute! Your choice of words is a bit clumsy but I agree with your general point, I remember reading something off the back of similar observations on the lack of diversity in the Euro winning squad compared to a typical men’s team… …the conclusions were along the lines of it being a much smaller participatory sport compared to boys football, and brings in much lower revenues than the semi pro men’s game, but to meet licensing regulations etc, a lot of the decent women’s teams have had to go out and establish bases in the suburbs and rural locations which creates a tendency for middle classism and kids playing for those clubs being the kids whose parents can drive them there….with simple math meaning that when you cut accessibility, minorities are going to become even smaller then you’d expect from a regular cross section of society. Look where Town ladies play 🤷‍♂️ There ARE a few black players in the Lioness squad, and every game they go on helps to put out there to young black kids that football is for “people who look like they do”…but until (and I suspect this will NEVER happen) there’s a girls youth football system approaching as big as there is for boys, the likelihood is that young black girls will continue to be filtered to an extent at the top end of the game. There is a good documentary With Alex Scott on the subject which explains a lot of what you've said above. Probably on iPlayer and worth a watch
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 20, 2023 8:29:46 GMT 1
There’s inevitably going to be references to 1966 across the media today and in the days following if we win today.
Maybe time to put that aside and hope that an England football team might be about to realise their dream.
They’ve come past every team put in front of them, here’s hoping they can get over the final hurdle in a couple of hours time.
Come on England!!!
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Post by drewden on Aug 20, 2023 10:16:14 GMT 1
England to win, penalty shootout.
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Post by jasrick on Aug 20, 2023 10:18:10 GMT 1
Can't read the replies but, IMO, Halifax don't have a leg to stand on. It sounds like the league were happy to postpone the game, providing both teams agreed - Newcastle didn't, so the game should go ahead as planned & if Halifax don't fulfil the fixture, they should be punished. You're right - however the bigger picture is that the league itself make an utterly stupid decision of scheduling the first round of fixtures to coincide with the World Cup final in the first place, and then when England got to the semi's, should have postponed all fixtures with the weeks notice. Teams in the mens game that are more divisions away from the top flight than Halifax FC women are, such as Bradford City, didn't play a game the week of the mens World Cup final in December. It looks like Bradford City didn’t turn up to their game yesterday either. Presumably to give their fans time to prepare for the final today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 10:39:19 GMT 1
I'd have had James back in.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 20, 2023 10:53:21 GMT 1
How is Aluko still getting media work after that absolute load of codswallop she came out with on Talksport
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Aug 20, 2023 10:56:16 GMT 1
Wrighty alway calls them girls and they love him to bits Girls, Women, lasses, ladies, take your pick. You forgot the saying 'Guys'that really grates with me how can a woman be a Guy? Think I might have opened the floodgates there! Do I want them to win? Yes, but if they do we won't here the last of it by beating the men to it since 66. Hemp to win it for our blonde bombshells
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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 20, 2023 11:02:14 GMT 1
Here we go. Been weeding the garden, other half offered to knock up a cooked brekkie, sorted. Come on England.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 11:03:33 GMT 1
Commentary in English and Spanish,fucks sake
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 11:04:44 GMT 1
Needs more space between the commentary boxes!
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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 20, 2023 11:04:51 GMT 1
Poor Robyn Cowan sounds a bit rough, maybe didn't pace herself through earlier games. Can also hear the Spanish commentator sat nearby. Adds to the atmosphere. Are the ITV people actually there?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 20, 2023 11:06:25 GMT 1
Get ITV on, far better commentary
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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 20, 2023 11:09:36 GMT 1
No chance, Emma Hays is good but not summarising anyway, bloke commentating dull as ditchwater. Sort you get doing league 2 highlights
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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 20, 2023 11:15:41 GMT 1
England under pressure early on, need to work their way into the game.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 20, 2023 11:18:26 GMT 1
Great strike, hits the bar, unlucky. Nice move.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Aug 20, 2023 11:19:04 GMT 1
Great save Earps
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 20, 2023 11:19:40 GMT 1
She's got to bury that.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 20, 2023 11:21:29 GMT 1
All the near side of the goal to go for and hits it straight at Earps
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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 20, 2023 11:23:30 GMT 1
Chances at either end, not the usual cagey stuff for high profile final.
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Post by ACW on Aug 20, 2023 11:27:26 GMT 1
Chances for both sides, but England are failing to control central midfield. Walsh isn't able to get on the ball. A few too many long hopeful balls.
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