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Post by rockwall on Jul 28, 2023 21:58:27 GMT 1
I'd be SO pissed off if we'd signed someone of the calibre of Darryl Dike, Almiron or Alphonso Davies.... Please tell me you are not comparing edwards to those players... Almiron is also a terrible example. He went from cerro to lanus then to the MLS for huge money. You compared the championship to the MLS. Darryl Dike came to the Championship from the MLS. Why can't that be compared? Regarding the others, the poster is obviously stating there is talent there if you scout correctly. Aaronsen who was at Leeds played MLS, as did Jack Harrison. |
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Post by mrg on Jul 29, 2023 0:14:23 GMT 1
Lol, i said 7th to 14th, knowing that if i said 15th we may have finished there under the cowleys. Im not sure i said confortably either. I agree with most, squad needs a reboot, but its worth giving these lads a try and seeing whst they come up with. They finished 5th in the form table at the end of the year. Id be shocked if they could hold thst all year but mid table should be ok. The mistake warnock has already made is not bringing in a replacement for narcis. Does he honestly think he and ronnie can out think and out train the division? I highly doubt that. NW brought in Carl Serrant www.htafc.com/matches/technical-staff/management--coaching/carl-serrant/Cheers mate, missed that. |
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Post by softboy on Jul 29, 2023 8:51:32 GMT 1
We should welcome every new player to our club. Ignore other clubs fans who say, he was great, he was shit. We should judge on what we see. Nicholls and Turton being classic examples. So welcome Tom and anyone else that joins us.
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Post by rockwall on Jul 29, 2023 9:00:05 GMT 1
We should welcome every new player to our club. Ignore other clubs fans who say, he was great, he was shit. We should judge on what we see. Nicholls and Turton being classic examples. So welcome Tom and anyone else that joins us. Nicholls was never slated by MK Dons fans. This has been stated over and over again. He didn't want to sign a new contract, so got benched for the 2nd half of the season. Turton wasn't either by Blackpool fans. Majority said he was a solid dependable pro. |
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Post by Spike24 on Jul 29, 2023 11:18:25 GMT 1
hogg Pearson Nicholls all cast offs we brought in amongst others. No they weren't. Hogg was made available to us because Watford were promoted to the premier league and had big plans for his position. Nicholls would not sign a contract and was left in the stiffs. As for Pearson I don't recall to be honest. So cast aside then? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 29, 2023 11:41:25 GMT 1
10 years ago, today, Hoggy signed for Town
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Post by ACW on Jul 29, 2023 12:25:29 GMT 1
10 years ago, today, Hoggy signed for Town Superb signing and a tremendous servant. One of the best in my time watching Town. I'm sure he'll still have a big role to play this season too. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 29, 2023 12:28:37 GMT 1
10 years ago, today, Hoggy signed for Town Superb signing and a tremendous servant. One of the best in my time watching Town. I'm sure he'll still have a big role to play this season too. Best £400k we've spent 🤔 |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 29, 2023 12:38:39 GMT 1
We should welcome every new player to our club. Ignore other clubs fans who say, he was great, he was shit. We should judge on what we see. Nicholls and Turton being classic examples. So welcome Tom and anyone else that joins us. Nicholls was never slated by MK Dons fans. This has been stated over and over again. He didn't want to sign a new contract, so got benched for the 2nd half of the season. Turton wasn't either by Blackpool fans. Majority said he was a solid dependable pro. It was our fans who slated turton for months on end. Until they realised he was actually decent |
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Post by crux on Jul 29, 2023 17:00:07 GMT 1
Well, based on today's performance, if he's as crap as everyone said he was I can't wait to see how good any decent signings might be 🤣
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 29, 2023 17:15:21 GMT 1
Played well today... should make a useful contribution this season.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Jul 29, 2023 17:32:30 GMT 1
Well, based on today's performance, if he's as crap as everyone said he was I can't wait to see how good any decent signings might be 🤣 Yep I know one swallow doesn't make a summer but some on here might be starting to nibble on a slice of humble pie with lashings of cream. |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jul 29, 2023 19:30:50 GMT 1
Well, based on today's performance, if he's as crap as everyone said he was I can't wait to see how good any decent signings might be 🤣 Yep I know one swallow doesn't make a summer but some on here might be starting to nibble on a slice of humble pie with lashings of cream. Don't be ridiculous, and don't expect it to change with any future signings either. If they haven't figured it out by now that you can't judge a signing before he's played then they're never going to figure it out. |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 29, 2023 19:33:14 GMT 1
To say he has been with the squad 2 days I thought he had a very solid game.
Not as slow as made out to be either.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jul 29, 2023 19:39:20 GMT 1
Agree, solid is the word for today. Its really all about consistency so obviously we need to see more of him but on today's showing a decent addition to the squad.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 29, 2023 21:35:24 GMT 1
Nicholls was never slated by MK Dons fans. This has been stated over and over again. He didn't want to sign a new contract, so got benched for the 2nd half of the season. Turton wasn't either by Blackpool fans. Majority said he was a solid dependable pro. It was our fans who slated turton for months on end. Until they realised he was actually decent To be fair, Turton WAS crap at first - until he improved to cope with the step up. |
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Post by ACW on Jul 29, 2023 22:13:46 GMT 1
It was our fans who slated turton for months on end. Until they realised he was actually decent To be fair, Turton WAS crap at first - until he improved to cope with the step up. Turton wasn't just crap to begin with - he was abysmal. Defensively poor and looked scared of the ball. Credit to him though, he turned around his form and became one of our most consistent performers. That takes some doing. He must be incredibly mentally strong. I've rarely seen a player turn around their form so dramatically. |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 29, 2023 23:57:11 GMT 1
To be fair, Turton WAS crap at first - until he improved to cope with the step up. Turton wasn't just crap to begin with - he was abysmal. Defensively poor and looked scared of the ball. Credit to him though, he turned around his form and became one of our most consistent performers. That takes some doing. He must be incredibly mentally strong. I've rarely seen a player turn around their form so dramatically. Nonsense. He was the usual victim of our fans wanting a hate figure until they realised it was a ridiculous thing |
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Post by willo on Jul 30, 2023 0:47:09 GMT 1
Turton wasn't just crap to begin with - he was abysmal. Defensively poor and looked scared of the ball. Credit to him though, he turned around his form and became one of our most consistent performers. That takes some doing. He must be incredibly mentally strong. I've rarely seen a player turn around their form so dramatically. Nonsense. He was the usual victim of our fans wanting a hate figure until they realised it was a ridiculous thing Turton is an old style no frills full back who doesn’t let us down. Sure, you don’t get lots of rampaging runs down the wing from him but he’s solid and was probably our most improved player before injury struck. Just don’t know what some fans want or expect at times. |
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Post by DuncShearer* on Jul 30, 2023 2:19:32 GMT 1
To say he has been with the squad 2 days I thought he had a very solid game. Not as slow as made out to be either. Must have been watching a different player looked horrifically slow to me hopefully he gets up to speed. |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 30, 2023 8:30:10 GMT 1
To say he has been with the squad 2 days I thought he had a very solid game. Not as slow as made out to be either. Must have been watching a different player looked horrifically slow to me hopefully he gets up to speed. 2 occasions they broke through and got it between Pearson and Helik, Edwards managed to catch up and intercept once, and tackle on the other. |
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Post by yellowbelly on Jul 30, 2023 11:54:18 GMT 1
As good as any other town player on show. Long throw could be an asset too when Kyle gets used to the play. Remember Peter Crouch, to say nothing of Marty Pearson et al.
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 30, 2023 11:58:21 GMT 1
To say he has been with the squad 2 days I thought he had a very solid game. Not as slow as made out to be either. he just looked slow cos he's a bit chunky and has a bit of a hobbly running style. covered ground absolutely fine and did just about everything you could ask of a full back. |
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Post by ACW on Jul 30, 2023 12:24:23 GMT 1
Turton wasn't just crap to begin with - he was abysmal. Defensively poor and looked scared of the ball. Credit to him though, he turned around his form and became one of our most consistent performers. That takes some doing. He must be incredibly mentally strong. I've rarely seen a player turn around their form so dramatically. Nonsense. He was the usual victim of our fans wanting a hate figure until they realised it was a ridiculous thing No, you are wrong. I watched him play when he first signed with my own eyes. I was at the matches. He was abysmal. Fans changed their opinions of him when he started to improve, and eventually became one of our most reliable and consistent performers. But if you want to re-write history, you crack on. |
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Post by ACW on Jul 30, 2023 12:25:39 GMT 1
Nonsense. He was the usual victim of our fans wanting a hate figure until they realised it was a ridiculous thing Turton is an old style no frills full back who doesn’t let us down. Sure, you don’t get lots of rampaging runs down the wing from him but he’s solid and was probably our most improved player before injury struck. Just don’t know what some fans want or expect at times. Re-read my post - the one quoted in your original post. I gave him loads of credit. |
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Post by joek on Jul 30, 2023 12:46:04 GMT 1
Nonsense. He was the usual victim of our fans wanting a hate figure until they realised it was a ridiculous thing No, you are wrong. I watched him play when he first signed with my own eyes. I was at the matches. He was abysmal. Fans changed their opinions of him when he started to improve, and eventually became one of our most reliable and consistent performers. But if you want to re-write history, you crack on. Pretty sure you’re not the only poster on here who watched him with their own eyes and were at matches when he first signed! I thought he was ok to begin with and got much better throughout the season. Don’t think he was ever as bad as you say he was, but life is all about opinions isn’t it? |
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Post by ACW on Jul 30, 2023 14:09:06 GMT 1
No, you are wrong. I watched him play when he first signed with my own eyes. I was at the matches. He was abysmal. Fans changed their opinions of him when he started to improve, and eventually became one of our most reliable and consistent performers. But if you want to re-write history, you crack on. Pretty sure you’re not the only poster on here who watched him with their own eyes and were at matches when he first signed! I thought he was ok to begin with and got much better throughout the season. Don’t think he was ever as bad as you say he was, but life is all about opinions isn’t it? I wasn't trying to be condescending, just replying to someone who called my viewpoint - based on watching a player play live, on numerous occasions - "nonsense". Perhaps he wasn't abysmal when he first signed, but he was regularly beaten by opposition players, unable to block crosses and simply hoofed the ball anywhere when he received it. He certainly didn't impress. However, my other point - which seems to have been lost - is that he has developed into a solid, dependable player for us. That speaks volumes for his work ethic and mentality. I have only admiration for how he has conducted himself and developed at Town. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 30, 2023 14:30:50 GMT 1
No, you are wrong. I watched him play when he first signed with my own eyes. I was at the matches. He was abysmal. Fans changed their opinions of him when he started to improve, and eventually became one of our most reliable and consistent performers. But if you want to re-write history, you crack on. Pretty sure you’re not the only poster on here who watched him with their own eyes and were at matches when he first signed! I thought he was ok to begin with and got much better throughout the season. Don’t think he was ever as bad as you say he was, but life is all about opinions isn’t it? There's a lot of exaggeration on here, whether because some can't help having extreme views or they're just poor at expressing themselves, but my recollection was also that he started particularly badly. Just hoofing it away the second he got it and not being great defensively either; looked way off Championship standard. Anyway, I think most broadly agree he's now at least adequate as right back in a four. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 30, 2023 19:05:59 GMT 1
I genuinely thought Turton was trying but clearly out of his depth when he first arrived, but gradually got (much) better.
I also thought Josh Ruffels wasn't up to much until late last season.
Josh Koroma was significantly better in the last third of the season than he was in the first two thirds....
If people didn't spot the dramatic improvement in Ollie Turton's performances when he first joined vs when he'd done half a season then I don't know what they were watching.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 30, 2023 20:00:46 GMT 1
Nonsense. He was the usual victim of our fans wanting a hate figure until they realised it was a ridiculous thing No, you are wrong. I watched him play when he first signed with my own eyes. I was at the matches. He was abysmal. Fans changed their opinions of him when he started to improve, and eventually became one of our most reliable and consistent performers. But if you want to re-write history, you crack on. Just a silly use of the word 'abysmal' isnt it because he was nothing like that. Total over-exaggeration that makes the point youre making nonsense. he struggled initially with the step up and was perhaps 'poor' until he got up to speed. Then he was surprisingly good. |
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