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Post by Up the Duff. on Oct 7, 2023 21:14:26 GMT 1
7 days ago Town set a benchmark of what they were, clearly, capable of against Ipswich. The two performances since have fallen below that benchmark. It's too early to panic but it's not an unreasonable question to ask, why, things dropped off so quickly? Fairly or not DM hasn't got much leeway, so I hope we see much better in a fortnight. Why did he change the team and approach like he did at Birmingham. Then again today.. that might be your answer Dugnet
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Post by swam4mwg on Oct 7, 2023 21:19:53 GMT 1
Keep the buggers in then, it used to be the norm in the 70s and 80s to give the home fans time to set up an ambush disperse. South Yorkshire games were worst and we spent many an hour at Oakwell and Belle View waiting to be released. I remember being kept over at Bramall Lane for 30 mins in 89/90ish,and the announcer said "sorry for keeping you so long...but we're not sorry you lost"!! (We lost 5-1 and i think Andy May scored an goal If I remember right!! It was common to keep away fans in after the game back then. I do recall the announcer having a dig at Bramall Lane. I thought Marsden scored that day?
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Post by waggers on Oct 7, 2023 21:33:17 GMT 1
Reasonable record of ever slightly underachieving with the squad at his disposal.. if he does that with this squad we are in deep trouble. He's not clever enough... his IQ I would imagine in sub par and therefore he's unlikely to bring any sucess other than his ability to be a cheerleader. I'm totally switched off from it now. Went today but won't be going away again in a hurry until I see improved performances from the squad. Borderline racist attitude. I agree he shouldn't be constantly bringing up Moore's IQ, quite a strange thing to keep going for but I really don't think he's insinuating anything racial. Criticise the bloke as a manager but stop constantly calling him thick.
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Post by townrwe on Oct 7, 2023 22:09:43 GMT 1
Reasonable record of ever slightly underachieving with the squad at his disposal.. if he does that with this squad we are in deep trouble. He's not clever enough... his IQ I would imagine in sub par and therefore he's unlikely to bring any sucess other than his ability to be a cheerleader. I'm totally switched off from it now. Went today but won't be going away again in a hurry until I see improved performances from the squad. Borderline racist attitude. Full on snowflake... only person been racist is you for suggesting it. Consider yourself educated.
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Post by townrwe on Oct 7, 2023 22:10:35 GMT 1
Reasonable record of ever slightly underachieving with the squad at his disposal.. if he does that with this squad we are in deep trouble. He's not clever enough... his IQ I would imagine in sub par and therefore he's unlikely to bring any sucess other than his ability to be a cheerleader. I'm totally switched off from it now. Went today but won't be going away again in a hurry until I see improved performances from the squad. Imagine TownRWe telling someone their IQ is ‘sub-par’ after the years of bollocks they’ve posted in a perpetually failing attempt to look either knowledgeable or funny 🤷♂️🤦♂️ 137 Ted..... how you looking???
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Post by townrwe on Oct 7, 2023 22:35:42 GMT 1
The DM effect so to speak, lets see how the team react to this upcomming few weeks of training. The players seem to like him, therefore i hope the next couple of weeks, make a difference to how the team plays currently. The 3/5/2 system is something DM has always played, therefore i hope the players have a better understanding of it come the next game. I am saying hoping, as we need to find a way to be mroe threating when we go forward no doubt. They won't like him for long if they keep getting booed at the final whistle. 4 games in and "some" of the crowd have turned already. I lethargically clapped, but it was a bit disingenuous... probably just walking out would have summed it up better.
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Post by space hardware on Oct 7, 2023 22:40:53 GMT 1
I remember being kept over at Bramall Lane for 30 mins in 89/90ish,and the announcer said "sorry for keeping you so long...but we're not sorry you lost"!! (We lost 5-1 and i think Andy May scored an goal If I remember right!! It was common to keep away fans in after the game back then. I do recall the announcer having a dig at Bramall Lane. I thought Marsden scored that day? He did. I clearly remember the Maskell missed penalty and going there on, I think, the old Gold Rider bus.
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Post by ldr on Oct 7, 2023 22:55:46 GMT 1
Borderline racist attitude. Full on snowflake... only person been racist is you for suggesting it. Consider yourself educated. You certainly know how to win an argument! Btw 137 is a decent break. Did you fall down on the colours?
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Post by Wingman on Oct 7, 2023 23:33:11 GMT 1
The DM effect so to speak, lets see how the team react to this upcomming few weeks of training. The players seem to like him, therefore i hope the next couple of weeks, make a difference to how the team plays currently. The 3/5/2 system is something DM has always played, therefore i hope the players have a better understanding of it come the next game. I am saying hoping, as we need to find a way to be mroe threating when we go forward no doubt. They won't like him for long if they keep getting booed at the final whistle. 4 games in and "some" of the crowd have turned already. I lethargically clapped, but it was a bit disingenuous... probably just walking out would have summed it up better. How about not going at all if you’re just going to ‘lethargically clap’. Save your money and pour it into something you will actually enjoy? It seems to me too many Town fans want Moore to fail - why? What has he done to ignite his ire? He’s been here two minutes, has a track record that isn’t garbage so let’s give him chance eh? Talk of him being sacked by Christmas is bonkers.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 8, 2023 0:12:06 GMT 1
Hes learning his squad, trying a few different things. Nowt wrong with that. WAY too early for any kind of assessment of Moore yet, but so far from his 4 games its ok-ish, but could be better. 2 away draws , a home draw against a top side that we should have won and a miserably bad away defeat. Nothing to get in a flap about that I can see.
Comes across as a good bloke in interviews but christ theyre tedious. In fact hes almost as bad as Fotheringham in interviews IMO....just endless inane waffle to every question which is probably why he does come across as being not overly bright...
"yes Sheffield Wednesday is a game..and we'll be going to Sheffield Wednesday Football club ..and its a game for Huddersfield Town Football Club that we'll be trying to win......zzzzzzz"
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Post by royrace on Oct 8, 2023 0:32:07 GMT 1
Hes learning his squad, trying a few different things. Nowt wrong with that. WAY too early for any kind of assessment of Moore yet, but so far from his 4 games its ok-ish, but could be better. 2 away draws , a home draw against a top side that we should have won and a miserably bad away defeat. Nothing to get in a flap about that I can see. Comes across as a good bloke in interviews but christ theyre tedious. In fact hes almost as bad as Fotheringham in interviews IMO....just endless inane waffle to every question which is probably why he does come across as being not overly bright... "yes Sheffield Wednesday is a game..and we'll be going to Sheffield Wednesday Football club ..and its a game for Huddersfield Town Football Club that we'll be trying to win......zzzzzzz" WAY too early but seems you're worried based on that post?
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 8, 2023 0:35:50 GMT 1
Are you basing it on hidden words only you can see? Which bit of 'ok-ish, could be better, nothing to get in a flap about' means that Im worried?
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 8, 2023 0:59:01 GMT 1
Hes learning his squad, trying a few different things. Nowt wrong with that. WAY too early for any kind of assessment of Moore yet, but so far from his 4 games its ok-ish, but could be better. 2 away draws , a home draw against a top side that we should have won and a miserably bad away defeat. Nothing to get in a flap about that I can see. Comes across as a good bloke in interviews but christ theyre tedious. In fact hes almost as bad as Fotheringham in interviews IMO....just endless inane waffle to every question which is probably why he does come across as being not overly bright... "yes Sheffield Wednesday is a game..and we'll be going to Sheffield Wednesday Football club ..and its a game for Huddersfield Town Football Club that we'll be trying to win......zzzzzzz" It's impossible to sound intelligent with his accent.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Oct 8, 2023 0:59:26 GMT 1
He’s had 3 points from a possible 12. Nothing ok ish about that at all imo. Piss poor
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Post by ritchie on Oct 8, 2023 1:41:58 GMT 1
He will take us down
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Post by wigster on Oct 8, 2023 2:01:58 GMT 1
Certainly publicly Darren Moore seems to lack the sharpness or charisma of a Warnock or a Wagner and I do get a bit bored listening to his interviews where he doesn't seem to say a lot, but that has very little to do with whether he's a good manager or not.
He's got a good record and deserves a chance ie at least his own transfer window unless things go drastically wrong.
I'm not sure ANY manager - that we could afford anyway - could be expected to do a lot with this squad, surely one of the weakest in this division and, I suspect, weaker than several in Division 1. It's been discussed ad nauseam perhaps but how and why we have been left with a squad that doesn't contain one even adequate striker is totally beyond me. Ward has proven over years that he's only ever had one season where he scored an adequate, not good, number of goals and as to the rest we have wingers temporarily converted to strikers,young players that have shown little signs of progress and that's about it.
We do still have Jordan Rhodes who is showing that with the right service he scores goals. His decriers say that it's only in Division 1 but his scoring ability and stats are a million miles better than the likes of Hudlin, Harratt or the others we have on our books in mostly lower divisions.
Darren Moore deserves a chance but it does get a bit tiring repeating the same old mantra - "wait till we see what happens in the next transfer window" - I'm sick of saying it.
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 8, 2023 2:02:33 GMT 1
I wonder if after seeing that shower of shit today Nagle still thinks we have a capable squad.
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 8, 2023 5:36:08 GMT 1
Some saying people are having a go already. Well yes we are because he inherited a team that was starting to put a little run together. He has played players out of position and we have just failed to beat the worst team in the division. It was appalling.
He will be gone by Xmas as I said previously.
As for the failings in the squad that’s all down to Nagle who is clearly listening to a couple of muppets that didn’t like the fact warnock called them out for the piss poor transfer window, so they got rid of him.
I mean Edwards ffs
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Post by aksaiblue on Oct 8, 2023 5:48:03 GMT 1
We would have had at least 4 points from our last 2 games, had Warnock still been in charge.
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Oct 8, 2023 8:40:55 GMT 1
Rooney has left D. C. United after failing to make play offs. Pity we jumped in early with the latest managerial appointment.
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Post by benhomly on Oct 8, 2023 8:49:01 GMT 1
Rooney has left D. C. United after failing to make play offs. Pity we jumped in early with the latest managerial appointment. Yes it’s a huge pity we didn’t wait to appoint a manager who failed to achieve in one of the hotbeds of world ‘soccer’. Not
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 8:49:27 GMT 1
Rooney has left D. C. United after failing to make play offs. Pity we jumped in early with the latest managerial appointment. Why would Rooney be a better option than Moore? 🤔
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Post by iangreaves on Oct 8, 2023 8:53:37 GMT 1
If we do go down, which is entirely possible, I think the responsibility would rest more with those above Darren Moore.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Oct 8, 2023 9:02:38 GMT 1
Rooney has left D. C. United after failing to make play offs. Pity we jumped in early with the latest managerial appointment. Why would Rooney be a better option than Moore? 🤔 Yeah I’m taking Moore over Rooney anyday of the week, it’s a similar brand of football but at least Moore gets results with it. Rooney win rate under 30% at Derby and at DC. Interestingly it seems Birmingham want him to replace Eustace, based on how they battered us maybe he’s a nice option for us if things go wrong. Still prefer to go down the unknown foreign approach and try find the next Wagner.
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Oct 8, 2023 9:04:12 GMT 1
Rooney has left D. C. United after failing to make play offs. Pity we jumped in early with the latest managerial appointment. Why would Rooney be a better option than Moore? 🤔 I believe the players would put a shift in for Rooney more than they are doing for Moore.
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 8, 2023 9:04:41 GMT 1
Rooney has left D. C. United after failing to make play offs. Pity we jumped in early with the latest managerial appointment. Rooney has left D. C. United after failing
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Post by Floyds on Oct 8, 2023 9:52:31 GMT 1
I’m sure Moore will do his best but it’s a thankless task with this squad and budget. We had the best manager possible with these players and we’ve let him go.
But perhaps the powers that be didn’t recognise what we had with Warnock and felt that AN Other could do better.
Sadly I think they’ll be ruing the transfer window and the inevitable exit of Warnock when we’re back in the bottom three and playing like we’re a Sunday morning pub team who’ve been out to Visage till 2am before stumbling up Chapel Hill for a kebab/fight.
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Post by runner76 on Oct 8, 2023 10:00:24 GMT 1
I’m sure Moore will do his best but it’s a thankless task with this squad and budget. We had the best manager possible with these players and we’ve let him go. But perhaps the powers that be didn’t recognise what we had with Warnock and felt that AN Other could do better. Sadly I think they’ll be ruing the transfer window and the inevitable exit of Warnock when we’re back in the bottom three and playing like we’re a Sunday morning pub team who’ve been out to Visage till 2am before stumbling up Chapel Hill for a kebab/fight. …the 2am Al Faisal pilgrimage…..
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Post by Floyds on Oct 8, 2023 10:43:25 GMT 1
I’m sure Moore will do his best but it’s a thankless task with this squad and budget. We had the best manager possible with these players and we’ve let him go. But perhaps the powers that be didn’t recognise what we had with Warnock and felt that AN Other could do better. Sadly I think they’ll be ruing the transfer window and the inevitable exit of Warnock when we’re back in the bottom three and playing like we’re a Sunday morning pub team who’ve been out to Visage till 2am before stumbling up Chapel Hill for a kebab/fight. …the 2am Al Faisal pilgrimage….. There was also a late night (post 2am) club on Chapel Hill in those days). Was it the Ranex? Downstairs…not the most salubrious of surroundings 😜
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 8, 2023 11:17:08 GMT 1
Thought it since the first time I saw him as a pundit on sky and his press conference upon being appointed manager confirmed it. I'm assuming it's a bit like Jacko and Yorath in that someone else in his staff is the brains and he is great at building that team spirit and motivating them.
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