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Post by swissterrier on Oct 6, 2023 10:47:54 GMT 1
Just finished the series, can thoroughly recommend it.
As per other posters totally agree that not only does he come across as a sound bloke, the amount of shit he got following that red card was bang out of order.
I do think he regretted going to the US, a salary cap of $13,000 per annum just seems crazy to me.
But I'd forgotten he played for PSG.
Loved the bit where his lad and his mates wanted to challenge him to a game of 5 a side and he was like yeah, ill invite Figo, Roberto Carlos etc.... to play on my team.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 6, 2023 11:41:36 GMT 1
Just finished the series, can thoroughly recommend it. As per other posters totally agree that not only does he come across as a sound bloke, the amount of shit he got following that red card was bang out of order. I do think he regretted going to the US, a salary cap of $13,000 per annum just seems crazy to me. But I'd forgotten he played for PSG. Loved the bit where his lad and his mates wanted to challenge him to a game of 5 a side and he was like yeah, ill invite Figo, Roberto Carlos etc.... to play on my team. I finished it last night and agree it was absolutely brilliant. Lots of stuff we previously didn’t know. I was amazed how the players at Real Madrid rallied around him. Just proved that the “Galacticos “ were great blokes. I’ve never before watched something like this and thought that despite his wealth, he’s actually just a nice bloke.
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Post by rickrast on Oct 6, 2023 11:54:47 GMT 1
Becks is one hell of an over-achiever.....still going strong. As is his marriage....decent family man. Deserving of a lot of respect.
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 6, 2023 12:03:38 GMT 1
Becks is one hell of an over-achiever.....still going strong. As is his marriage....decent family man. Deserving of a lot of respect. Said similar to the wife... not especially gifted, but his OCD made him into one of the best we've seen.
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Post by wigster on Oct 6, 2023 14:57:44 GMT 1
A good footballer, never a great one, whose media standing was rescued and glorified by "that" free kick. From what I read his media team and advisers have ensured that he's been at every event and function from Wimbledon to Save the Whale to boost the Beckham brand. Alledgedly no footballer has made more out of the game. I may be a boring old fart but I think of the likes of Ray Wilson, Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton and then Beckham and then realise why I went off watching England. My sister met him and says that, off camera, he's an arrogant twat
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 6, 2023 15:33:42 GMT 1
I think he was a great footballer. World class . Cant think of anyone from his era who could cross a ball as consistently well as Beckham could. Tremendous passing accuracy over long distance and then throw in his free kicks. A top player at the very top level of club football and an England legend.
He is a brand and incredibly successful at it and hes made sure a lot of people have benefited from all that along the way. Its a joke that he hasnt been knighted for what hes achieved in his life IMO particularly when you consider some/most of the people who have.
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Post by wigster on Oct 6, 2023 16:53:36 GMT 1
I think he was a great footballer. World class . Cant think of anyone from his era who could cross a ball as consistently well as Beckham could. Tremendous passing accuracy over long distance and then throw in his free kicks. A top player at the very top level of club football and an England legend. He is a brand and incredibly successful at it and hes made sure a lot of people have benefited from all that along the way. Its a joke that he hasnt been knighted for what hes achieved in his life IMO particularly when you consider some/most of the people who have. Not for want of trying to be knighted, is it Slapps ? Perhaps publicised tax avoidance measures didn't help. Did you read the leaked emails from him ? Gave the impression that his selfless actions weren't quite as "selfless".
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 6, 2023 17:42:56 GMT 1
Tax avoidance wont make any difference to him deserving being knighted.
Dont know anyone who doesnt do tax avoidance or wouldn't if they could. In fact most people do tax evasion to some degree and thats illegal.
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 6, 2023 18:14:15 GMT 1
Tax avoidance wont make any difference to him deserving being knighted. Dont know anyone who doesnt do tax avoidance or wouldn't if they could. In fact most people do tax evasion to some degree and thats illegal. David Murray (ex rangers chairman) got away with tax dodging (EBT’s amongst other things) and used it as football working capital for Rangers’ benefit (he admitted it at an HMRC first tier tax tribunal, was ‘cleared’ but The Supreme Court eventually ruled in HMRC’s favour) The Bank of Scotland (and ultimately The Scottish Taxpayers ? ) picked up the tab of just shy of £1 BILLION pounds... Murray got a debt for equity swap and cherry picked what he wanted for himself and his sons (Real Estate and Green Belt land on the periphery of Edinburgh International Airport) - If this happend in England he was undoubtedly jailed - They did it to Leicester Piggott - but Murray is Teflon up here in Scotland... Trust me - I’ve been the ‘beneficiary’ of “rougery” - And you get away with murder up here and also in Ireland compared to England... 😊
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Post by ldr on Oct 6, 2023 18:23:22 GMT 1
Tax avoidance wont make any difference to him deserving being knighted. Dont know anyone who doesnt do tax avoidance or wouldn't if they could. In fact most people do tax evasion to some degree and thats illegal. David Murray (ex rangers chairman) got away with tax dodging (EBT’s amongst other things) and used it as football working capital for Rangers’ benefit (he admitted it at an HMRC first tier tax tribunal, was ‘cleared’ but The Supreme Court eventually ruled in HMRC’s favour) The Bank of Scotland (and ultimately The Scottish Taxpayers ? ) picked up the tab of just shy of £1 BILLION pounds... Murray got a debt for equity swap and cherry picked what he wanted for himself and his sons (Real Estate and Green Belt land on the periphery of Edinburgh International Airport) - If this happend in England he was undoubtedly jailed - They did it to Leicester Piggott - but Murray is Teflon up here in Scotland... Trust me - I’ve been the ‘beneficiary’ of “rougery” - And you get away with murder up here and also in Ireland compared to England... 😊 I wonder if Patrick Thistle Eddery was guilt as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 18:49:04 GMT 1
Just finished the series, can thoroughly recommend it. As per other posters totally agree that not only does he come across as a sound bloke, the amount of shit he got following that red card was bang out of order. I do think he regretted going to the US, a salary cap of $13,000 per annum just seems crazy to me.But I'd forgotten he played for PSG. Loved the bit where his lad and his mates wanted to challenge him to a game of 5 a side and he was like yeah, ill invite Figo, Roberto Carlos etc.... to play on my team. Haven't seen it, so you'll have more insight than me. But didn't they offset that salary cap by basically allowing him a really cheap way into being an owner of an MLS franchise - which the way things are looking, is going to make a very rich man considerably richer? Same with Messi - his base salary might not be much compared to what he's been on in the past, but there are plenty more carrots than just base salary. Christ, I hate modern football sometimes
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 6, 2023 19:14:21 GMT 1
David Murray (ex rangers chairman) got away with tax dodging (EBT’s amongst other things) and used it as football working capital for Rangers’ benefit (he admitted it at an HMRC first tier tax tribunal, was ‘cleared’ but The Supreme Court eventually ruled in HMRC’s favour) The Bank of Scotland (and ultimately The Scottish Taxpayers ? ) picked up the tab of just shy of £1 BILLION pounds... Murray got a debt for equity swap and cherry picked what he wanted for himself and his sons (Real Estate and Green Belt land on the periphery of Edinburgh International Airport) - If this happend in England he was undoubtedly jailed - They did it to Leicester Piggott - but Murray is Teflon up here in Scotland... Trust me - I’ve been the ‘beneficiary’ of “rougery” - And you get away with murder up here and also in Ireland compared to England... 😊 I wonder if Patrick Thistle Eddery was guilt as well. Interesting anology and connection Idr... Had a look at it online and seen he was married to the granddaughter of Harry Wragg - And what are The Jags of Patrick Thistle commonly known as by the man and woman in the street in Scotland... Yep - It’s The HARRY WRAGG’S !!! 😉
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Post by durhamterrier on Oct 6, 2023 20:34:48 GMT 1
Remember listening to a podcast recently - can’t remember who - and they said Becks was one of the most humble players in the England camp . Introduced himself to new players as David (as if he’d need to) and made them feel included .
Also mentioned he’d try do ‘normal things’ like read around the pool or go for a walk and within 5 mins he had to go back to his room he was hassled that much .
As much as we joke , that part of fame must be fucking awful
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 6, 2023 20:37:25 GMT 1
I think he was a great footballer. World class . Cant think of anyone from his era who could cross a ball as consistently well as Beckham could. Tremendous passing accuracy over long distance and then throw in his free kicks. A top player at the very top level of club football and an England legend. He is a brand and incredibly successful at it and hes made sure a lot of people have benefited from all that along the way. Its a joke that he hasnt been knighted for what hes achieved in his life IMO particularly when you consider some/most of the people who have. Not for want of trying to be knighted, is it Slapps ? Perhaps publicised tax avoidance measures didn't help. Did you read the leaked emails from him ? Gave the impression that his selfless actions weren't quite as "selfless". Tax avoidance ? Has he been trying out for Take That 🤔
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 6, 2023 20:39:02 GMT 1
Tax avoidance wont make any difference to him deserving being knighted. Dont know anyone who doesnt do tax avoidance or wouldn't if they could. In fact most people do tax evasion to some degree and thats illegal. Is that folk who don't work for someone ? My tax has always been sorted by work 🤷
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 6, 2023 20:47:27 GMT 1
Just finished the series, can thoroughly recommend it. As per other posters totally agree that not only does he come across as a sound bloke, the amount of shit he got following that red card was bang out of order. I do think he regretted going to the US, a salary cap of $13,000 per annum just seems crazy to me.But I'd forgotten he played for PSG. Loved the bit where his lad and his mates wanted to challenge him to a game of 5 a side and he was like yeah, ill invite Figo, Roberto Carlos etc.... to play on my team. Haven't seen it, so you'll have more insight than me. But didn't they offset that salary cap by basically allowing him a really cheap way into being an owner of an MLS franchise - which the way things are looking, is going to make a very rich man considerably richer? Same with Messi - his base salary might not be much compared to what he's been on in the past, but there are plenty more carrots than just base salary. Christ, I hate modern football sometimes Basically, in the programme, he got talked into being the big name signing to publicise MLS and didn't realise just how shit the other players were. They were on bugger all ($13,000 pa), had part time jobs etc. He was playing balls that footballers of his level would've seen but the pool cleaners and burger flippers couldn't imagine. He got pissed off, Capello told him he had to play in a top Euro league if he wanted to get to the WC so he got the 6 month loan at Milan and enjoyed it that much that he wanted to stay but the Galaxy owner wouldn't let him go, Landon Donovan was slagging him off in the press in the US, the fans were siding with Donovan too. He went back, cleared the air with Donovan, got his head down and they won the MLS.
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Post by Mounie for nothing on Oct 6, 2023 20:49:43 GMT 1
Remember listening to a podcast recently - can’t remember who - and they said Becks was one of the most humble players in the England camp . Introduced himself to new players as David (as if he’d need to) and made them feel included . Also mentioned he’d try do ‘normal things’ like read around the pool or go for a walk and within 5 mins he had to go back to his room he was hassled that much . As much as we joke , that part of fame must be fucking awful Think it was David Wheater on Undr the Cosh. If not, he said pretty much the same thing
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Oct 6, 2023 20:51:35 GMT 1
Tax avoidance wont make any difference to him deserving being knighted. Dont know anyone who doesnt do tax avoidance or wouldn't if they could. In fact most people do tax evasion to some degree and thats illegal. David Murray (ex rangers chairman) got away with tax dodging (EBT’s amongst other things) and used it as football working capital for Rangers’ benefit (he admitted it at an HMRC first tier tax tribunal, was ‘cleared’ but The Supreme Court eventually ruled in HMRC’s favour) The Bank of Scotland (and ultimately The Scottish Taxpayers ? ) picked up the tab of just shy of £1 BILLION pounds... Murray got a debt for equity swap and cherry picked what he wanted for himself and his sons (Real Estate and Green Belt land on the periphery of Edinburgh International Airport) - If this happend in England he was undoubtedly jailed - They did it to Leicester Piggott - but Murray is Teflon up here in Scotland... Trust me - I’ve been the ‘beneficiary’ of “rougery” - And you get away with murder up here and also in Ireland compared to England... 😊 Jobs a good un 👍🏻
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 20:53:28 GMT 1
Haven't seen it, so you'll have more insight than me. But didn't they offset that salary cap by basically allowing him a really cheap way into being an owner of an MLS franchise - which the way things are looking, is going to make a very rich man considerably richer? Same with Messi - his base salary might not be much compared to what he's been on in the past, but there are plenty more carrots than just base salary. Christ, I hate modern football sometimes Basically, in the programme, he got talked into being the big name signing to publicise MLS and didn't realise just how shit the other players were. They were on bugger all ($13,000 pa), had part time jobs etc. He was playing balls that footballers of his level would've seen but the pool cleaners and burger flippers couldn't imagine. He got pissed off, Capello told him he had to play in a top Euro league if he wanted to get to the WC so he got the 6 month loan at Milan and enjoyed it that much that he wanted to stay but the Galaxy owner wouldn't let him go, Landon Donovan was slagging him off in the press in the US, the fans were siding with Donovan too. He went back, cleared the air with Donovan, got his head down and they won the MLS. Fair enough - thanks for the explanation, mate!
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 6, 2023 20:53:59 GMT 1
Remember listening to a podcast recently - can’t remember who - and they said Becks was one of the most humble players in the England camp . Introduced himself to new players as David (as if he’d need to) and made them feel included . Also mentioned he’d try do ‘normal things’ like read around the pool or go for a walk and within 5 mins he had to go back to his room he was hassled that much . As much as we joke , that part of fame must be fucking awful I know a lad that was a photographer with England, he also got asked to take some at Becks wedding. He's never had a bad word to say about him, Jamie Redknapp on the other hand.......🫣
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Oct 6, 2023 21:15:40 GMT 1
Redknapp seems to be disappearing slowly but surely or am I imaging things?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 6, 2023 21:20:05 GMT 1
Haven't seen it, so you'll have more insight than me. But didn't they offset that salary cap by basically allowing him a really cheap way into being an owner of an MLS franchise - which the way things are looking, is going to make a very rich man considerably richer? Same with Messi - his base salary might not be much compared to what he's been on in the past, but there are plenty more carrots than just base salary. Christ, I hate modern football sometimes Basically, in the programme, he got talked into being the big name signing to publicise MLS and didn't realise just how shit the other players were. They were on bugger all ($13,000 pa), had part time jobs etc. He was playing balls that footballers of his level would've seen but the pool cleaners and burger flippers couldn't imagine. He got pissed off, Capello told him he had to play in a top Euro league if he wanted to get to the WC so he got the 6 month loan at Milan and enjoyed it that much that he wanted to stay but the Galaxy owner wouldn't let him go, Landon Donovan was slagging him off in the press in the US, the fans were siding with Donovan too. He went back, cleared the air with Donovan, got his head down and they won the MLS. Yes. Roy of the Rovers stuff again.
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