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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Nov 1, 2024 22:58:28 GMT 1
Kev, love the work on the stadium and great to have an optimistic owner. Cartwright is clueless and Duff may need to be punted if you can find better soon.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 1, 2024 23:01:07 GMT 1
Nagle and his mate Dave don't give a fuck about the club. For whatever reason he bought the club, but he doesn't care , therefore wont change what needs to be changed. Yes he is not a football expert, but it is obvious what needs changing and wont do it because he has not bottle. Does he even have the money to do it ? is he even a billioanire? I mean for a billionaire what has he spent ? he must be the penniless billioanire everrrr.
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Post by Dan on Nov 1, 2024 23:01:25 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start?
We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos.
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Post by Metch on Nov 1, 2024 23:04:35 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start? We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos. Because he's ultimately responsible and there's a pattern emerging with each failure |
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Post by Dan on Nov 1, 2024 23:04:51 GMT 1
Nagle and his mate Dave don't give a fuck about the club. For whatever reason he bought the club, but he doesn't care , therefore wont change what needs to be changed. Yes he is not a football expert, but it is obvious what needs changing and wont do it because he has not bottle. Does he even have the money to do it ? is he even a billioanire? I mean for a billionaire what has he spent ? he must be the penniless billioanire everrrr. Dave should have dealt with that long throw much better to be fair |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Nov 1, 2024 23:06:59 GMT 1
Nagle and his mate Dave don't give a fuck about the club. For whatever reason he bought the club, but he doesn't care , therefore wont change what needs to be changed. Yes he is not a football expert, but it is obvious what needs changing and wont do it because he has not bottle. Does he even have the money to do it ? is he even a billioanire? I mean for a billionaire what has he spent ? he must be the penniless billioanire everrrr. Perhaps you should fly to America and share your thoughts with Nagle? Give him your point by point action plan, show him where he's going wrong. Don't forget to book your flight with TWA... |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Nov 1, 2024 23:07:19 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start? We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos. By bad results do you mean a relegation, 7 defeats in 8 and the worst defeat in our history all in the space of 6 months? |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 1, 2024 23:07:46 GMT 1
Nagle and his mate Dave don't give a fuck about the club. For whatever reason he bought the club, but he doesn't care , therefore wont change what needs to be changed. Yes he is not a football expert, but it is obvious what needs changing and wont do it because he has not bottle. Does he even have the money to do it ? is he even a billioanire? I mean for a billionaire what has he spent ? he must be the penniless billioanire everrrr. Dave should have dealt with that long throw much better to be fair Your missing the point i am making, is that he has overseeing 2 years now of poor , below standard preformance. He employes idiots who are still here, yet does not seem to understand or realise this and the only advice he takes is from Dave , who my fucking dog knows more about football than him. We truley have fools running the club. |
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Post by Dan on Nov 1, 2024 23:08:38 GMT 1
Dave should have dealt with that long throw much better to be fair Your missing the point i am making, is that he has overseeing 2 years now of poor , below standard preformance. He employes idiots who are still here, yet does not seem to understand or realise this and the only advice he takes is from Dave , who my fucking dog knows more about football than him. We truley have fools running the club. Thankfully not as foolish as the posts you're churning out x |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Nov 1, 2024 23:08:44 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start? We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos. Because he's ultimately responsible and there's a pattern emerging with each failure How deep are your pockets? Have you got enough to buy the club and then avoid such "failures" ? |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 1, 2024 23:09:27 GMT 1
Nagle and his mate Dave don't give a fuck about the club. For whatever reason he bought the club, but he doesn't care , therefore wont change what needs to be changed. Yes he is not a football expert, but it is obvious what needs changing and wont do it because he has not bottle. Does he even have the money to do it ? is he even a billioanire? I mean for a billionaire what has he spent ? he must be the penniless billioanire everrrr. Perhaps you should fly to America and share your thoughts with Nagle? Give him your point by point action plan, show him where he's going wrong. Don't forget to book your flight with TWA... I would mate, but make sure he pays for it as he likes to pay people for doing shit jobs. o wait he wont pay me as i might do a good job. |
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Post by Amigo on Nov 1, 2024 23:14:27 GMT 1
You can blame Kev for certain things he's got wrong but he's got absolutely fuck all to do with what happened tonight.
You can't blame him for paying professional footballers (and management/coaching staff) thousands and thousands of pounds a week EACH to churn out that shite against lads that have other jobs just to make a living.
The management and players were shit tonight, shit tactics, shit game management, shit desire, shit quality.
The players and management had more than enough between them to conjure up anything better than that.
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Post by andyboothscat on Nov 1, 2024 23:15:56 GMT 1
Because he's ultimately responsible and there's a pattern emerging with each failure How deep are your pockets? Have you got enough to buy the club and then avoid such "failures" ? That’s a pathetic response to a supporter holding an owner to account for what is happing to our club. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Nov 1, 2024 23:19:28 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start? We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos. By bad results do you mean a relegation, 7 defeats in 8 and the worst defeat in our history all in the space of 6 months? But but we were going to have a total overhaul in the summer as promised remember, oh no we signed ladapo on a free and kept a bunch of lads incapable of passing a football. Blame duff all they want but he hasn’t been backed anywhere near the level promised. All we need now is another not good enough tweet. |
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Post by huddersfc on Nov 1, 2024 23:25:49 GMT 1
The problem is, he probably wont have a clue about tonight, and what has happened. If he did, he would be asking serious questions about how we have been outplayed and outthought by a team who prepared for the game by doing their full time job. He seems to be doing what needs to be done off the pitch, and unlike some I wont use that as a stick to beat him with, because its all needed. But on the field of play, he is being let down, and I dont understand how he cant see that. He has just allowed Cartwright to bring in Ladapo on a 2 year deal, who cant even get on the field in front of Radulovic, Marshall, Ward, and Koroma when fit. Thats how bad he is. In a team where we dont have a striker who will score 10 goals this season, he is already 5th choice. Yet the bloke who signed him, along with a load of other garbage, is still in charge. Its incredible, and until he takes some honest advice from a few different people independent of the club with no affiliation, he will keep on bringing in this standard of player.
I also wonder how many more times he can say we all have to do better, before taking some action to put us on the right track on the field.
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Post by space hardware on Nov 1, 2024 23:27:15 GMT 1
The problem is, he probably wont have a clue about tonight, and what has happened. If he did, he would be asking serious questions about how we have been outplayed and outthought by a team who prepared for the game by doing their full time job. He seems to be doing what needs to be done off the pitch, and unlike some I wont use that as a stick to beat him with, because its all needed. But on the field of play, he is being let down, and I dont understand how he cant see that. He has just allowed Cartwright to bring in Ladapo on a 2 year deal, who cant even get on the field in front of Radulovic, Marshall, Ward, and Koroma when fit. Thats how bad he is. In a team where we dont have a striker who will score 10 goals this season, he is already 5th choice. Yet the bloke who signed him, along with a load of other garbage, is still in charge. Its incredible, and until he takes some honest advice from a few different people independent of the club with no affiliation, he will keep on bringing in this standard of player. I also wonder how many more times he can say we all have to do better, before taking some action to put us on the right track on the field. I was thinking, do they even have cup competitions where a bigger team can lose to a minnow over there? In any sport? Or is it all predictable franchise crap? |
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Post by dugnet on Nov 1, 2024 23:38:57 GMT 1
You can blame Kev for certain things he's got wrong but he's got absolutely fuck all to do with what happened tonight. You can't blame him for paying professional footballers (and management/coaching staff) thousands and thousands of pounds a week EACH to churn out that shite against lads that have other jobs just to make a living. The management and players were shit tonight, shit tactics, shit game management, shit desire, shit quality. The players and management had more than enough between them to conjure up anything better than that. Ultimately that's correct but Mr Nagle selected the team that were ultimately responsible for what we suffered tonight. Some will be, understandably, angry but abuse, unpleasantness doesn't help. Questions need to be asked about what needs to improve and Mr Nagle needs to challenge his team to do that. He also needs to support them too. |
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Post by Amigo on Nov 2, 2024 0:23:56 GMT 1
You can blame Kev for certain things he's got wrong but he's got absolutely fuck all to do with what happened tonight. You can't blame him for paying professional footballers (and management/coaching staff) thousands and thousands of pounds a week EACH to churn out that shite against lads that have other jobs just to make a living. The management and players were shit tonight, shit tactics, shit game management, shit desire, shit quality. The players and management had more than enough between them to conjure up anything better than that. Ultimately that's correct but Mr Nagle selected the team that were ultimately responsible for what we suffered tonight. Some will be, understandably, angry but abuse, unpleasantness doesn't help. Questions need to be asked about what needs to improve and Mr Nagle needs to challenge his team to do that. He also needs to support them too. The team he selected were more than capable of beating Tamworth tonight though? At the very least being unlucky to lose rather than deservedly dumped out. He can't force them to perform on a single night. Over the course of a season yes but not on a single night unless you think that those players and management team tonight are below National League level? The factual answer to that based on all their careers so far is ultimately no though so I'm still not sure how you can ultimately blame "Mr Nagle" for a single performance considering my point was based on tonight. |
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Post by dugnet on Nov 2, 2024 0:38:04 GMT 1
Ultimately that's correct but Mr Nagle selected the team that were ultimately responsible for what we suffered tonight. Some will be, understandably, angry but abuse, unpleasantness doesn't help. Questions need to be asked about what needs to improve and Mr Nagle needs to challenge his team to do that. He also needs to support them too. The team he selected were more than capable of beating Tamworth tonight though? At the very least being unlucky to lose rather than deservedly dumped out. He can't force them to perform on a single night. Over the course of a season yes but not on a single night unless you think that those players and management team tonight are below National League level? The factual answer to that based on all their careers so far is ultimately no though so I'm still not sure how you can ultimately blame "Mr Nagle" for a single performance considering my point was based on tonight. You're right, but my point is that there are no leaders in the team. There are no characters and there is no backbone. That has been an issue for 2 seasons and it should have been identified and rectified. |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Nov 2, 2024 0:39:25 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start? We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos. Because he's ultimately responsible and there's a pattern emerging with each failure Agreed. Vast majority of the same crop of players, who've failed year over year. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Nov 2, 2024 0:57:47 GMT 1
How deep are your pockets? Have you got enough to buy the club and then avoid such "failures" ? That’s a pathetic response to a supporter holding an owner to account for what is happing to our club. The owner is surely acutely aware of what’s happening to his tens of millions. Have you ever run a business? |
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Post by ben1987 on Nov 2, 2024 1:57:42 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start? We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos. The culture comes with the style of chairmanship he’s adopted. As I’ve said on numerous occasions, when you communicate the way he does then he has to accept that it inevitably opens himself up for this reaction. I’ve no sympathy, he’s brought it all on himself. |
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Post by ldr on Nov 2, 2024 2:07:10 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start? We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos. The culture comes with the style of chairmanship he’s adopted. As I’ve said on numerous occasions, when you communicate the way he does then he has to accept that it inevitably opens himself up for this reaction. I’ve no sympathy, he’s brought it all on himself. Big question: does he feel like us tonight? Because, as fans, tonight is about as bad as it gets. Is he even bothered? |
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Post by ldotm on Nov 2, 2024 2:16:20 GMT 1
Nagle and his mate Dave don't give a fuck about the club. For whatever reason he bought the club, but he doesn't care , therefore wont change what needs to be changed. Yes he is not a football expert, but it is obvious what needs changing and wont do it because he has not bottle. Does he even have the money to do it ? is he even a billioanire? I mean for a billionaire what has he spent ? he must be the penniless billioanire everrrr. You’re pathetic. Have no issues with people blaming decisions and mistakes made by them, but to say they don’t care is just thick. Even if you wish to argue they are only doing it for monetary reasons (which is bollocks because how many clubs make money) they’d still care because performances would equate to more chances of returned investment, so they would care. Bunch of fucking children on here sometimes, grow up. |
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Post by andyboothscat on Nov 2, 2024 9:13:56 GMT 1
That’s a pathetic response to a supporter holding an owner to account for what is happing to our club. The owner is surely acutely aware of what’s happening to his tens of millions. Have you ever run a business? You didn’t snap with that pithy response to a point regarding whether was acutely aware though. You told someone that they could only question the chairman if they have enough money to take over from him. Best take down this whole forum if that’s the new rule then. |
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Post by tottz on Nov 2, 2024 9:21:29 GMT 1
I'm not Nagle's biggest fan as my posting history shows. Last night wasn't solely his fault.
We are where we are because of Hodgkinson, Hoyle, Nagle, Bromby, Cartwright, Corberan, Schofield... I could go on.
Essentially we've been mismanaged from the very top for dive years or so, with a little blip where we nearly got promoted.
Nagle is obviously responsible for a lot of things, but he merely accelerated the downfall, he didn't instigate it.
The people most responsible for last night though are Maxwell, Turton, Pearson, Lees, Lonwijk, Headley, Kasumu, Wiles, Iorpenda, Radulovic, Ward, Marshall, Kane, Ladapo, Miller and whoever the other ineffective sub was.
Mentality wise, these players are a disgrace
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Nov 2, 2024 9:31:30 GMT 1
Nagle and his mate Dave don't give a fuck about the club. For whatever reason he bought the club, but he doesn't care , therefore wont change what needs to be changed. Yes he is not a football expert, but it is obvious what needs changing and wont do it because he has not bottle. Does he even have the money to do it ? is he even a billioanire? I mean for a billionaire what has he spent ? he must be the penniless billioanire everrrr. Dave should have dealt with that long throw much better to be fair You are being facetious and you know it. Ultimately Nagle makes the desicion of who he employs to make decisions on his part. Therefore whilst not directly for the Tamworth game, some blame for the decline of the club as a whole under his ownership most definitely falls on his shoulders. As far as Dave is concerned who knows what he actually brings to the table 🤷♂️ |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Nov 2, 2024 9:33:08 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start? We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos. The culture comes with the style of chairmanship he’s adopted. As I’ve said on numerous occasions, when you communicate the way he does then he has to accept that it inevitably opens himself up for this reaction. I’ve no sympathy, he’s brought it all on himself. Said the same myself many times. If he/dave/other fans don’t like the stick he gets then do what 99% of other club owners do and keep quiet. Simple really. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Nov 2, 2024 9:41:20 GMT 1
Didn’t he just tell us that Cartwright and his staff are using the best technology available in player recruitment?
He isn’t in this for the football that much is blindingly obvious. No way can a multi billionaire businessman be so naive.
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Post by hoggy1975 on Nov 2, 2024 9:50:01 GMT 1
Your missing the point i am making, is that he has overseeing 2 years now of poor , below standard preformance. He employes idiots who are still here, yet does not seem to understand or realise this and the only advice he takes is from Dave , who my fucking dog knows more about football than him. We truley have fools running the club. Thankfully not as foolish as the posts you're churning out x Not too many likes on that one Dan, you’ll have to think of another witty comment next time. |
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