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Post by willo on Nov 2, 2024 16:50:09 GMT 1
Always assuming Nagle thinks football is an entertainment business, he needs to be aware we have been awful to watch for ages, dog shit awful at that. Huge change required be it the quality of the players we sign (for which the current DOF should have zero input in) or a new, forward thinking head coach. We are no better than we were under Moore or Breitenreiter at present against much lesser opposition than last season.
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 2, 2024 16:52:23 GMT 1
Always assuming Nagle thinks football is an entertainment business, he needs to be aware we have been awful to watch for ages, dog shit awful at that. Huge change required be it the quality of the players we sign (for which the current DOF should have zero input in) or a new, forward thinking head coach. We are no better than we were under Moore or Breitenreiter at present against much lesser opposition than last season. If I remember, there were complaints from supporters that we were awful to watch under Wagner and Corberon. I'm not sure what sort of football supporters actually want.
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Post by Justasmithers on Nov 2, 2024 16:57:19 GMT 1
Not sure if this is true, but I get the impression those afternoon teas are a bit of a circle jerk with the absence of alternative points of view, including negative yet realistic opinions. I've applied to go on more than one occasion. I'm sure that despite being a long standing fan I'm don't fit the profile of the people they want to attend. ie they have a profile they want to attend. I can assure you that’s not true my friend. Each visit garners a TON of requests, and there isn’t a screening process. We don’t really know who’s who. We HAVE made a couple of specific requests when we found a group was being underrepresented (women, youth), but all are welcome pending availability. Look forward to meeting you there someday!
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Post by bullterrier on Nov 2, 2024 17:00:36 GMT 1
Always assuming Nagle thinks football is an entertainment business, he needs to be aware we have been awful to watch for ages, dog shit awful at that. Huge change required be it the quality of the players we sign (for which the current DOF should have zero input in) or a new, forward thinking head coach. We are no better than we were under Moore or Breitenreiter at present against much lesser opposition than last season. What a crock of crap we get the ball forward much quicker under duff wide players put balls into the box and tbh I think duffs doing well it’s a tough gig with these players ,we need more quality that’s obvious but he’s slowly getting there with them .last night can happen to any team Tamworth aren’t a bad side on a 4g pitch
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Post by rougeboy31 on Nov 2, 2024 17:53:24 GMT 1
Always assuming Nagle thinks football is an entertainment business, he needs to be aware we have been awful to watch for ages, dog shit awful at that. Huge change required be it the quality of the players we sign (for which the current DOF should have zero input in) or a new, forward thinking head coach. We are no better than we were under Moore or Breitenreiter at present against much lesser opposition than last season. If I remember, there were complaints from supporters that we were awful to watch under Wagner and Corberon. I'm not sure what sort of football supporters actually want. I definitely thought Carlos football was boring, but why as town fans can we not want good football and winning football.
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Post by willo on Nov 2, 2024 18:02:00 GMT 1
Always assuming Nagle thinks football is an entertainment business, he needs to be aware we have been awful to watch for ages, dog shit awful at that. Huge change required be it the quality of the players we sign (for which the current DOF should have zero input in) or a new, forward thinking head coach. We are no better than we were under Moore or Breitenreiter at present against much lesser opposition than last season. What a crock of crap we get the ball forward much quicker under duff wide players put balls into the box and tbh I think duffs doing well it’s a tough gig with these players ,we need more quality that’s obvious but he’s slowly getting there with them .last night can happen to any team Tamworth aren’t a bad side on a 4g pitch Agree cup upsets happen all the time but we deserved nothing from last night’s game and maintain we’ve been largely unentertaining to watch for ages. I would rather we stick with a coach for a change and if that’s to be Duff, I’m ok with that, but we still are nowhere near a good watch much of the time - especially so given the quality of League 1 opposition.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Nov 2, 2024 18:14:17 GMT 1
I've applied to go on more than one occasion. I'm sure that despite being a long standing fan I'm don't fit the profile of the people they want to attend. ie they have a profile they want to attend. I can assure you that’s not true my friend. Each visit garners a TON of requests, and there isn’t a screening process. We don’t really know who’s who. We HAVE made a couple of specific requests when we found a group was being underrepresented (women, youth), but all are welcome pending availability. Look forward to meeting you there someday! I know from a good source that private messaging Kevin regularly doesn’t harm your chances…so that gives me the impression that maybe assenting voices do get more of a look in.
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Post by Metch on Nov 2, 2024 19:38:01 GMT 1
Always assuming Nagle thinks football is an entertainment business, he needs to be aware we have been awful to watch for ages, dog shit awful at that. Huge change required be it the quality of the players we sign (for which the current DOF should have zero input in) or a new, forward thinking head coach. We are no better than we were under Moore or Breitenreiter at present against much lesser opposition than last season. If I remember, there were complaints from supporters that we were awful to watch under Wagner and Corberon. I'm not sure what sort of football supporters actually want. A rerun of the 79/80 season would do nicely!! Alas, it'll never happen, the game has changed.
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 2, 2024 20:06:49 GMT 1
When did the culture of blaming the chairman after bad results start? We've been beat by a conference team in the cup. That is on the players and staff you weirdos. By bad results do you mean a relegation, 7 defeats in 8 and the worst defeat in our history all in the space of 6 months? I'm assuming you weren't around in the 2003/4 season when we lost to conference side Accrington Stanley in the first round of the FA Cup That season also included losses as follows 1-0 at home to York City 2-1 away to Bury 2-6 away to Scunthorpe 4-0 away to Macclesfield Town 2-0 at home to Darlington 1-0 away to Carlisle 2-1 away to Kiddeminister Harriers That season included winning 1 in 7. That was all after being relegated into the bottom division the season before. Losing 23 games and scoring just 39 goals all season. To say that last night was the worst in our history, after a bad run and getting relegated just 6 months ago is just a dumb as fuck comment I'm afraid.
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Post by goodbet on Nov 2, 2024 20:20:22 GMT 1
The team he selected were more than capable of beating Tamworth tonight though? At the very least being unlucky to lose rather than deservedly dumped out. He can't force them to perform on a single night. Over the course of a season yes but not on a single night unless you think that those players and management team tonight are below National League level? The factual answer to that based on all their careers so far is ultimately no though so I'm still not sure how you can ultimately blame "Mr Nagle" for a single performance considering my point was based on tonight. You're right, but my point is that there are no leaders in the team. There are no characters and there is no backbone. That has been an issue for 2 seasons and it should have been identified and rectified. you are right, but it has been an issue a bit longer than 2 seasons.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Nov 2, 2024 20:30:35 GMT 1
Nagle and his mate Dave don't give a fuck about the club. For whatever reason he bought the club, but he doesn't care , therefore wont change what needs to be changed. Yes he is not a football expert, but it is obvious what needs changing and wont do it because he has not bottle. Does he even have the money to do it ? is he even a billioanire? I mean for a billionaire what has he spent ? he must be the penniless billioanire everrrr. Get a grip You just don't make any sense, totally illogical. Why wouldn't he " give a fuck"? Read back what you've said when the toys are back in the pram. Tamworth fought harder than us last night and deserved the win. The players underestimated them and thought all they had to do was turn up. As far as I can recall Nagle and Smithers weren't on the team sheet last night. KN just can't win, he speaks on x gets abuse, he doesn't speak he gets abuse, we lose he gets abuse. If he didn't give a shit he wouldn't have bought in.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Nov 2, 2024 20:31:47 GMT 1
By bad results do you mean a relegation, 7 defeats in 8 and the worst defeat in our history all in the space of 6 months? I'm assuming you weren't around in the 2003/4 season when we lost to conference side Accrington Stanley in the first round of the FA Cup That season also included losses as follows 1-0 at home to York City 2-1 away to Bury 2-6 away to Scunthorpe 4-0 away to Macclesfield Town 2-0 at home to Darlington 1-0 away to Carlisle 2-1 away to Kiddeminister Harriers That season included winning 1 in 7. That was all after being relegated into the bottom division the season before. Losing 23 games and scoring just 39 goals all season. To say that last night was the worst in our history, after a bad run and getting relegated just 6 months ago is just a dumb as fuck comment I'm afraid. We promotion that season as well, so maybe history will repeat itself.
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Post by terrier17 on Nov 2, 2024 20:37:48 GMT 1
By bad results do you mean a relegation, 7 defeats in 8 and the worst defeat in our history all in the space of 6 months? I'm assuming you weren't around in the 2003/4 season when we lost to conference side Accrington Stanley in the first round of the FA Cup That season also included losses as follows 1-0 at home to York City 2-1 away to Bury 2-6 away to Scunthorpe 4-0 away to Macclesfield Town 2-0 at home to Darlington 1-0 away to Carlisle 2-1 away to Kiddeminister Harriers That season included winning 1 in 7. That was all after being relegated into the bottom division the season before. Losing 23 games and scoring just 39 goals all season. To say that last night was the worst in our history, after a bad run and getting relegated just 6 months ago is just a dumb as fuck comment I'm afraid. To be fair, the circumstances of the club at that point in time was very different to now. Only had several players on the books and the squad was made up of academy players, put together months before that defeat to Accrington.
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Post by goodbet on Nov 2, 2024 20:47:58 GMT 1
The guy who took us to within 90 minutes of the Premier League. On a shoestring budget. This is his fault, is it? He walked out on us a week before the season started. Point being everyone has contributed to where we are now whether in a big way or a small way There has been a lot of blame thrown around for that performance, I think that people pointing a finger at people at the club now have a much better grasp of reality. His leaving did leave a big hole that DH did not fill and we continued to run the playing side of the club down. KN took over and pressed his foot on the accelerator with dodgy staff who can't find us the quality of player we need.
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Post by townarentbest on Nov 2, 2024 20:59:39 GMT 1
I can assure you that’s not true my friend. Each visit garners a TON of requests, and there isn’t a screening process. We don’t really know who’s who. We HAVE made a couple of specific requests when we found a group was being underrepresented (women, youth), but all are welcome pending availability. Look forward to meeting you there someday! I know from a good source that private messaging Kevin regularly doesn’t harm your chances…so that gives me the impression that maybe assenting voices do get more of a look in. Or arse lickers?
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 2, 2024 21:03:50 GMT 1
I can assure you that’s not true my friend. Each visit garners a TON of requests, and there isn’t a screening process. We don’t really know who’s who. We HAVE made a couple of specific requests when we found a group was being underrepresented (women, youth), but all are welcome pending availability. Look forward to meeting you there someday! I know from a good source that private messaging Kevin regularly doesn’t harm your chances…so that gives me the impression that maybe assenting voices do get more of a look in. I can second this.
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Post by richhtfc on Nov 2, 2024 21:08:59 GMT 1
He walked out on us a week before the season started. Point being everyone has contributed to where we are now whether in a big way or a small way There has been a lot of blame thrown around for that performance, I think that people pointing a finger at people at the club now have a much better grasp of reality. His leaving did leave a big hole that DH did not fill and we continued to run the playing side of the club down. KN took over and pressed his foot on the accelerator with dodgy staff who can't find us the quality of player we need. Not sure why it left a big hole, it was shit before he came under the Sievert/Cowleys/various caretakers and it was shit when he left, how long was his tenure 14months? What Corberan and Wagner proved to me is that good managers can make an enormous difference to average players.
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Post by goodbet on Nov 2, 2024 21:23:06 GMT 1
There has been a lot of blame thrown around for that performance, I think that people pointing a finger at people at the club now have a much better grasp of reality. His leaving did leave a big hole that DH did not fill and we continued to run the playing side of the club down. KN took over and pressed his foot on the accelerator with dodgy staff who can't find us the quality of player we need. Not sure why it left a big hole, it was shit before he came under the Sievert/Cowleys/various caretakers and it was shit when he left, how long was his tenure 14months? What Corberan and Wagner proved to me is that good managers can make an enormous difference to average players. Just look at the results when he we was here and the league position. Then look at the results when he left and the league position. He got poor players to play together so the whole was greater than the sum of the parts. Warnock did this but we have seen a succession of managers/coaches follow on that have not come close.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Nov 2, 2024 21:31:11 GMT 1
A diplomatic/restrained tweet from Kev. I bet he's seething on the quiet.
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Post by DuffMan on Nov 2, 2024 23:34:02 GMT 1
And now he’s arguing with the fans on Twitter. When will this fella learn 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by terrier17 on Nov 2, 2024 23:34:47 GMT 1
A diplomatic/restrained tweet from Kev. I bet he's seething on the quiet. It was until he started replying to fans…
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Nov 2, 2024 23:39:14 GMT 1
A diplomatic/restrained tweet from Kev. I bet he's seething on the quiet. It was until he started replying to fans… When will the penny drop with him, just keep f*cking quiet! It is really not that hard.
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Post by Sio on Nov 2, 2024 23:42:43 GMT 1
When will this bloke learn
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Nov 2, 2024 23:43:27 GMT 1
When will this bloke learn Seemingly never… It’s starting to look like him and CD are great at giving it big on socials but when it comes to running a club and turning it in the right direction, maybe not so profficient 🤷♂️ I’m a KN fan but it’s getting harder and harder to be.
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Post by DuffMan on Nov 2, 2024 23:51:12 GMT 1
Not sure Kevin will ever understand English football culture and I have little faith he will ever get things right on the field
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Post by andyboothscat on Nov 2, 2024 23:59:10 GMT 1
Not sure Kevin will ever understand English football culture and I have little faith he will ever get things right on the field In ten years time we will laugh at this strange American fella that came in for a few years with absolutely no idea about the game, club or fans, relegated us and tried to sell crap jackets for £150. It’s not very funny right now though!
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Nov 3, 2024 0:08:17 GMT 1
Not sure Kevin will ever understand English football culture and I have little faith he will ever get things right on the field In ten years time we will laugh at this strange American fella that came in for a few years with absolutely no idea about the game, club or fans, relegated us and tried to sell crap jackets for £150. It’s not very funny right now though! 😂😂 But in all seriousness the crap jackets for £130 or whatever sums up just how out of touch the ownership currently are with the club. Yes it is minor, but if they are so out of touch with minor things then…
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Post by andyboothscat on Nov 3, 2024 0:15:11 GMT 1
In ten years time we will laugh at this strange American fella that came in for a few years with absolutely no idea about the game, club or fans, relegated us and tried to sell crap jackets for £150. It’s not very funny right now though! 😂😂 But in all seriousness the crap jackets for £130 or whatever sums up just how out of touch the ownership currently are with the club. Yes it is minor, but if they are so out of touch with minor things then… Totally. Those jackets are how he will be remembered. I’ll say that now. A comical footnote in the clubs history stored next to the “young guns” marketing brainwave, Ken Davy appointing an empty chair, Steve Bruce going on holiday to Brazil rather than doing his job, David Taylor sacking Wadsworth then checking the bank balance and reappointing him and Phil’s paddy power shirts.
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 3, 2024 0:47:09 GMT 1
If I remember, there were complaints from supporters that we were awful to watch under Wagner and Corberon. I'm not sure what sort of football supporters actually want. A rerun of the 79/80 season would do nicely!! Alas, it'll never happen, the game has changed. Once in a lifetime season. I always thought that that team could have competed at a match higher level that year.
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Post by bullterrier on Nov 3, 2024 6:17:18 GMT 1
Maybe your the ones out of touch ? If the chairman wants to engage with fans on twitter that’s his choice he owns the club stop criticising him for it and personally I prefer someone who is open like kev to a person we never see. The jackets and things around the stadium thing I personally like it ,the players coming off the bus to dj some people don’t like change I’m afraid and others are happy to embrace it and exited by it. My advice to kev /dave is keep doing what your doing when we’re sitting pretty in the league come Christmas the few moaners won’t have anything to moan about.
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