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Post by terrier36 on Nov 11, 2023 18:33:28 GMT 1
The man is delusional. Just said up to the goal it was “another” positive performance on the back of last weeks. Darren, there is nothing whatsoever remotely positive in your teams performances. I don't even bother listening to anything he says, if that was positive then I dread to think what a negative performance looks like!
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Post by impact on Nov 11, 2023 18:33:36 GMT 1
The man is delusional. Just said up to the goal it was “another” positive performance on the back of last weeks. Darren, there is nothing whatsoever remotely positive in your teams performances. Please, please tell me he didn't actually say that. Please.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Nov 11, 2023 18:34:00 GMT 1
He won’t be going anywhere just an FYI. Getting January at least. Give Moore and Cartwright a window together. Jesus, that could set us back years. Yep attendances will be about 8000 by then, but he was ‘there guy’ so he won’t be going anywhere yet.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 18:34:13 GMT 1
I blame Moore for the performances and Hoyle, Cartwright and Edwards for the squad, and the state of the club. Dont know what Hoyles got to do with it, he brought Warnock in and he's told me personally he dosnt rate moore, its nowt to do with him. Hoyle has gone! Nagle owns it now and so far, he's been utter shite.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 18:35:38 GMT 1
Only four regulars were injured though, plus Hogg was suspended, so that's five regulars out. The likes of Turton and Pat Jones were included in that 11. Hogg, Ward, Kasumu, Harratt, Burgzorg, Rudoni, Koroma and Turton would all have started ahead of whoever did in that game. We started the game with 7 defenders. We had 4 left backs in the squad. We couldn't fill the bench. Everyone expected a drubbing with the squad we put out. Hogg, Burgzorg, Koroma, Harratt and Rudoni are the only ones that have been playing regularly since Moore came in. Turton, Kasumu and Ward have been on the treatment table all season so not sure how they can be counted as regulars.
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Post by detox on Nov 11, 2023 18:35:58 GMT 1
All I can say is............Yawn..........
Wake me up when he's gone.
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Post by stevvy on Nov 11, 2023 18:37:00 GMT 1
The man is delusional. Just said up to the goal it was “another” positive performance on the back of last weeks. Darren, there is nothing whatsoever remotely positive in your teams performances. If it's true that he said that, then he needs sacking for that alone
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Post by shawsie on Nov 11, 2023 18:37:31 GMT 1
I blame Moore for the performances and Hoyle, Cartwright and Edwards for the squad, and the state of the club. Dont know what Hoyles got to do with it, he brought Warnock in and he's told me personally he dosnt rate moore, its nowt to do with him. Hoyle has a huge amount to do with it. His post prem decision making has left us where we are sadly - its not just his fault by any means and it is worth noting he raised expectations before then with his stewardship.......but the lack of investment over 5 yrs now since we came down has strangled alot of enthusiasm in the club for many.
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Post by sabailand on Nov 11, 2023 18:37:55 GMT 1
Dont know what Hoyles got to do with it, he brought Warnock in and he's told me personally he dosnt rate moore, its nowt to do with him. Hoyle has gone! Nagle owns it now and so far, he's been utter shite. I'd say his choice of personnel has, he obviously dosnt know much about the game himself, what went on behind the scenes with NW i really dont know.
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Post by theterrier42 on Nov 11, 2023 18:39:56 GMT 1
I was content with the Moore appointment at the time but willing to now hold my hands up and say I was wrong! The football is boring, I can’t think of one game we’ve even tried to win. We’ve only beaten QPR and even that game we had a lucky 15 minute spell and should’ve been pegged back by the end of it. No idea who replaces him but this can’t continue
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Post by Teddington Ted on Nov 11, 2023 18:40:01 GMT 1
It’s like watching a boxer with a glass jaw try rope-a-dope tactics.
The Spurs boss on Monday signed off by saying ‘if we were down to 5 men we’d still have a go’. We daren’t show any ambition with 11!
Pathetic, cowardly tactics that achieve bugger all and drive fans away in their masses.
I don’t mind getting beaten but I expect to see some heart, some character and a bit of fight. If a team is made in the image of its manager, DM must be a spineless wastrel. He needs to find some ambition in his playing style ASAFP or he’ll be beyond redemption in the majority’s eyes before he knows it.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 18:41:52 GMT 1
Dont know what Hoyles got to do with it, he brought Warnock in and he's told me personally he dosnt rate moore, its nowt to do with him. Hoyle has a huge amount to do with it. His post prem decision making has left us where we are sadly - its not just his fault by any means and it is worth noting he raised expectations before then with his stewardship.......but the lack of investment over 5 yrs now since we came down has strangled alot of enthusiasm in the club for many. He wasn't even in charge for two of those years. If Hoyle is to blame for this then so is Hodgkinson.
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Post by Moooooy on Nov 11, 2023 18:42:04 GMT 1
He won’t be going anywhere just an FYI. Getting January at least. I think you’re right. I don’t think we can afford to sack him and his staff with the players we need to bring in. Sack that lot with their 3 year contracts and there’ll be nowt left to spend. It’ll have cost us a fortune to get rid of Warnock and his backroom team.
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Post by shawsie on Nov 11, 2023 18:43:27 GMT 1
Hoyle has a huge amount to do with it. His post prem decision making has left us where we are sadly - its not just his fault by any means and it is worth noting he raised expectations before then with his stewardship.......but the lack of investment over 5 yrs now since we came down has strangled alot of enthusiasm in the club for many. He wasn't even in charge for two of those years. If Hoyle is to blame for this then so is Hodgkinson. Who sold it initially after saying i will only sell to folks better placed to move it fwd than me?!
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Nov 11, 2023 18:43:33 GMT 1
I do feel sorry for the back 6 and Thomas but who were the ther 4 players on the pitch today?
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Post by wigster on Nov 11, 2023 18:44:57 GMT 1
Just watched Darren Moore's post match interview on YouTube. Genuinely in a world of his own
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 18:45:06 GMT 1
He wasn't even in charge for two of those years. If Hoyle is to blame for this then so is Hodgkinson. Who sold it initially after saying i will only sell to folks better placed to move it fwd than me?! So if I sell you a car that you can't afford to fill up with petrol, is that my fault or yours?
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Post by rockwall on Nov 11, 2023 18:45:36 GMT 1
Hogg, Ward, Kasumu, Harratt, Burgzorg, Rudoni, Koroma and Turton would all have started ahead of whoever did in that game. We started the game with 7 defenders. We had 4 left backs in the squad. We couldn't fill the bench. Everyone expected a drubbing with the squad we put out. Hogg, Burgzorg, Koroma, Harratt and Rudoni are the only ones that have been playing regularly since Moore came in. Turton, Kasumu and Ward have been on the treatment table all season so not sure how they can be counted as regulars. Moore also chose not to fill the bench. He also chose to start with 7 defenders and leave Diarra on the bench. What's wrong in putting someone like Ondo on the bench who have had minutes before? There isn't any excuse.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2023 18:46:05 GMT 1
The man is delusional. Just said up to the goal it was “another” positive performance on the back of last weeks. Darren, there is nothing whatsoever remotely positive in your teams performances. I don't watch any post-game stuff (too interested in NCAA football at 5pm!).... but I think DM is trying to say the ship had been steadied for the last two games until Hull's injury time winner. I have to admit that I liked his set-up today, but timing of the late subs was awful and tbh, we never looked like we had a chance of winning.
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Post by impact on Nov 11, 2023 18:47:02 GMT 1
Dont know what Hoyles got to do with it, he brought Warnock in and he's told me personally he dosnt rate moore, its nowt to do with him. Hoyle has a huge amount to do with it. His post prem decision making has left us where we are sadly - its not just his fault by any means and it is worth noting he raised expectations before then with his stewardship.......but the lack of investment over 5 yrs now since we came down has strangled alot of enthusiasm in the club for many. Hoyle didn't get rid of 18 players and the best manager available for the situation and only bring 4 in.
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Post by wigster on Nov 11, 2023 18:47:26 GMT 1
I blame Moore for the performances and Hoyle, Cartwright and Edwards for the squad, and the state of the club. Dont know what Hoyles got to do with it, he brought Warnock in and he's told me personally he dosnt rate moore, its nowt to do with him. Without going over old ground - it's everything to do with him. HIS legacy from the Premier league is the reason the club is where it is today. Totally
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Nov 11, 2023 18:48:25 GMT 1
Right it’s 1980s movie time, Nagle standing up through the sunroof of a limo with a boombox held overhead, outside Warnocks house playing our song
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Post by shawsie on Nov 11, 2023 18:48:45 GMT 1
Who sold it initially after saying i will only sell to folks better placed to move it fwd than me?! So if I sell you a car that you can't afford to fill up with petrol, is that my fault or yours? Ordinarily its mine........but in this instance its slightly different as the owner expressed life long love for the vehicle and vowed only to part to someone who would nurture and look after it.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Nov 11, 2023 18:49:11 GMT 1
The man is delusional. Just said up to the goal it was “another” positive performance on the back of last weeks. Darren, there is nothing whatsoever remotely positive in your teams performances. I don't watch any post-game stuff (too interested in NCAA football at 5pm!).... but I think DM is trying to say the ship had been steadied for the last two games until Hull's injury time winner. I have to admit that I liked his set-up today, but timing of the late subs was awful and tbh, we never looked like we had a chance of winning. Yeah, I’ve got Michigan/Penn state on
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 18:49:26 GMT 1
Dont know what Hoyles got to do with it, he brought Warnock in and he's told me personally he dosnt rate moore, its nowt to do with him. Without going over old ground - it's everything to do with him. HIS legacy from the Premier league is the reason the club is where it is today. Totally But it wasn't Hoyle that left us so threadbare in the summer. That was Nagle. It also wasn't Hoyle that got rid of the manager and replaced him with someone totally inferior.
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Post by wigster on Nov 11, 2023 18:49:29 GMT 1
Who sold it initially after saying i will only sell to folks better placed to move it fwd than me?! So if I sell you a car that you can't afford to fill up with petrol, is that my fault or yours? If you seek him out anddon't realize his cheque will bounce then it's your fault.
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Post by King Neil on Nov 11, 2023 18:49:56 GMT 1
It begars belief that some peeps on here even tried to discredit neil warnock and said he had to go!!!!
That press conference to announce Neil's departure was cringeworthy!!!...embarrassing that the club did that to him after what he had done for us....he was clearly upset with the decision and didn't want to leave!!
Those that backed Neil's departure should never post again on here and delete their accounts
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 18:50:11 GMT 1
So if I sell you a car that you can't afford to fill up with petrol, is that my fault or yours? Ordinarily its mine........but in this instance its slightly different as the owner expressed life long love for the vehicle and vowed only to part to someone who would nurture and look after it. I get that. But at the end of the day, Hodgkinson knew he couldn't afford to fund it yet still took it on. That's his own stupid fault.
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Post by willo on Nov 11, 2023 18:51:37 GMT 1
Just listened to Moore’s press conference and words fail me. He’s living in a different world to the rest of us. Shame I’m not a betting man, said we’d get hammered at leeds, we’d scrape a draw v Watford and then it would be 3 defeats to the end of November. He should be gone after a run like that and we can go get one of the much better options out there and just chalk Moore’s appointment down to experience.
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Post by shawsie on Nov 11, 2023 18:52:38 GMT 1
Without going over old ground - it's everything to do with him. HIS legacy from the Premier league is the reason the club is where it is today. Totally But it wasn't Hoyle that left us so threadbare in the summer. That was Nagle. It also wasn't Hoyle that got rid of the manager and replaced him with someone totally inferior. But presumably initially with warnocks agreement? Agree re part 2 - its not looking a great decision right now thats for sure.
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