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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 11, 2023 20:54:52 GMT 1
Been back a while and had time to think about today. Really poor performance that is ultimately down to tactics and poor quality players. The tactics were a shambles. Literally set up to not conceded for as long as possible. We weren’t playing Barcelona FFS. It’s a poor do when a team sets out from the first minute knowing 0-0 is a positive. It’s shit to watch, it’s shit to support and it’s boring. The quality is appalling. Basic stuff not being carried out, simple passes, holding the ball, just finding a man, basic sunday league stuff. Just garbage. The tactics are embarrassing to be honest, as if we don’t even deserve to be playing in this division. Zero threat, at all, at any time. It’s poor at the minute. Can’t see any signs of improvement. Lucky that Wednesday and Rotherham are shite. To think we need at least another 30 points is daunting at the moment. January is pivotal for us.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Nov 11, 2023 20:58:11 GMT 1
The team is woefully short of championship quality. I feel for DM , warnock is a bloody genius and somehow got far more than he should of out of this bunch, but unfortunately added to our woes by signing Danny Ward for a reported 20 grand a week. Our budget isn’t enough for this division and we blew a chunk of it on him DW . So the team is woefully short on championship quality , injuries and taking their toll. So yes the sympathy for DM and KNagle are there. But it’s a simple message invest in January or we will go down , because you can’t play for a nil nil from November and stay up that’s what’s happening . Hudlin and Harratt are a long way from being anywhere near championship standard stop pretending this is enough.
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Post by Melc on Nov 11, 2023 21:01:11 GMT 1
Yet a simple search of Twitter shows how happy Baggies fans are with him Yep. I know two West Brom fans and both said the exact same thing about Corberan when I brought up being a town fan- 'only good thing about our club at the moment' Anyone know if Moore did his disappearance act again down the tunnel at the final whistle without acknowledging the town fans like at Elland road.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 21:07:29 GMT 1
You should be a comedian. He's done fuck all with West Brom despite having a superior squad. Yet a simple search of Twitter shows how happy Baggies fans are with him And yet he's still done fuck all with them. And never will.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 21:08:47 GMT 1
Yep. I know two West Brom fans and both said the exact same thing about Corberan when I brought up being a town fan- 'only good thing about our club at the moment' Anyone know if Moore did his disappearance act again down the tunnel at the final whistle without acknowledging the town fans like at Elland road. Don't blame him, probably realises he'll get pelters if he goes near the fans.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 11, 2023 21:11:07 GMT 1
Yep. I know two West Brom fans and both said the exact same thing about Corberan when I brought up being a town fan- 'only good thing about our club at the moment' Anyone know if Moore did his disappearance act again down the tunnel at the final whistle without acknowledging the town fans like at Elland road. No he applauded the supporters and also sorted a lift home for two fans who missed their coach back. Carry on slagging him off if it makes you feel better but grow some balls and be a bigger person
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Post by wigster on Nov 11, 2023 21:11:28 GMT 1
According to Moore we "got into some threatening areas on the counter and caused them some problems." Did we? 😳 Quite simply, no. I presume that was aimed at Mr Nagle or Town supporters who didn't see the match.
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Post by wigster on Nov 11, 2023 21:14:50 GMT 1
But will you accept that, in Hoyle's own words, it was Hoyle who searched out Hodgkinson. Hodgkinson actually publicly expressed his surprise . Of course. No arguments there. But do you accept that Hodgkinson gets a pretty easy ride for his role in all this? Yes I do. Fair point. But Hoyle has had much much more influence on our club in the last two years that Hodgkinson ever did.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 21:17:05 GMT 1
Of course. No arguments there. But do you accept that Hodgkinson gets a pretty easy ride for his role in all this? Yes I do. Fair point. But Hoyle has had much much more influence on our club in the last two years that Hodgkinson ever did. If Hodgkinson had the required funds, Hoyle would never had to step back in. They're both to blame, but Hodgkinson gets far too much of an easy ride from Town fans.
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Post by space hardware on Nov 11, 2023 21:20:53 GMT 1
Anyone know if Moore did his disappearance act again down the tunnel at the final whistle without acknowledging the town fans like at Elland road. No he applauded the supporters and also sorted a lift home for two fans who missed their coach back. Carry on slagging him off if it makes you feel better but grow some balls and be a bigger person You ok hun? X
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 11, 2023 21:21:31 GMT 1
Taking in to account the injury crisis and the damage limitation of the last two games every Town fan should be absolutely fucking fuming with the club hierarchy old and new, though I'm prepared to cut the new hierarchy some slack due to the crap they've been dumped with but the club have only themselves to blame. This is the culmination of lack of investment in the first team squad by neglecting the academy (its producing very little), signing has beens and lower league shite. The club needs to wake up to the fact it needs to operate with a squad of 25 senior professionals. Hoyle baulked at squad strengthening after Wembley and as a direct result we find ourselves here.
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Post by htfcterry on Nov 11, 2023 21:23:10 GMT 1
Anyone know if Moore did his disappearance act again down the tunnel at the final whistle without acknowledging the town fans like at Elland road. No he applauded the supporters and also sorted a lift home for two fans who missed their coach back. Carry on slagging him off if it makes you feel better but grow some balls and be a bigger person Oh well if he clapped the fans and helped 2 stranded people with a lift all is forgiven. On to Southampton.
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Post by space hardware on Nov 11, 2023 21:26:07 GMT 1
Taking in to account the injury crisis and the damage limitation of the last two games every Town fan should be absolutely fucking fuming with the club hierarchy old and new, though I'm prepared to cut the new hierarchy some slack due to the crap they've been dumped with but the club have only themselves to blame. This is the culmination of lack of investment in the first team squad by neglecting the academy (its producing very little), signing has beens and lower league shite. The club needs to wake up to the fact it needs to operate with a squad of 25 senior professionals. Hoyle baulked at squad strengthening after Wembley and as a direct result we find ourselves here. Our first team isn't great, let's be honest here. A couple of injuries and we're not fielding a full bench. Disgraceful lack of forward planning, but one that was predicted by literally every fan except the Kool Aid drinkers on here.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Nov 11, 2023 21:28:57 GMT 1
Yet a simple search of Twitter shows how happy Baggies fans are with him And yet he's still done fuck all with them. And never will. Not sure. I'd consider uniting a fan base, playing good football and being top seven as pretty decent
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 11, 2023 21:30:02 GMT 1
Anyone know if Moore did his disappearance act again down the tunnel at the final whistle without acknowledging the town fans like at Elland road. No he applauded the supporters and also sorted a lift home for two fans who missed their coach back. Carry on slagging him off if it makes you feel better but grow some balls and be a bigger person The least he could have done after they spent all that money watching his negative shit
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 11, 2023 21:30:10 GMT 1
No he applauded the supporters and also sorted a lift home for two fans who missed their coach back. Carry on slagging him off if it makes you feel better but grow some balls and be a bigger person You ok hun? X I am and thank you for asking
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Post by Maynardblue on Nov 11, 2023 21:30:23 GMT 1
Yes I do. Fair point. But Hoyle has had much much more influence on our club in the last two years that Hodgkinson ever did. If Hodgkinson had the required funds, Hoyle would never had to step back in. They're both to blame, but Hodgkinson gets far too much of an easy ride from Town fans. Hodgkinson received death threats and threats of physical violence against his family that prevented them attending. He has suffered serious health issues since having to step down. I don't think it's fair to say he gets an easy ride.
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Post by space hardware on Nov 11, 2023 21:30:58 GMT 1
I am and thank you for asking Good to hear 👍🏻
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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 11, 2023 21:31:04 GMT 1
Anyone know if Moore did his disappearance act again down the tunnel at the final whistle without acknowledging the town fans like at Elland road. No he applauded the supporters Did He Pete? If he did, it was very very VERY brief & I certainly didn't see him anywhere near the away corner. PS Still think Nagle didn't over-react getting rid of NW, whatever he is supposed to have done?
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Post by Theboywhocriedmichaelvanwijk on Nov 11, 2023 21:32:41 GMT 1
Anyone know if Moore did his disappearance act again down the tunnel at the final whistle without acknowledging the town fans like at Elland road. No he applauded the supporters and also sorted a lift home for two fans who missed their coach back. Carry on slagging him off if it makes you feel better but grow some balls and be a bigger person Shall we give him another year then?
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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 11, 2023 21:39:06 GMT 1
That is possibly the weirdest match I've ever seen.
Borderline zero attacking intent from one of the teams particularly in the first half.
Can't really knock the effort shown by the players (the quality is not really there of course).
Wonder how they feel being sent out to play like that.
The Manager seems to be basically admitting they are not good enough.
Personally I'd rather they had a go, the last manager seemed to be able to get them to do that
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Post by alfredsterrier on Nov 11, 2023 21:53:06 GMT 1
That is possibly the weirdest match I've ever seen. Borderline zero attacking intent from one of the teams particularly in the first half. Can't really knock the effort shown by the players (the quality is not really there of course). Wonder how they feel being sent out to play like that. The Manager seems to be basically admitting they are not good enough. Personally I'd rather they had a go, the last manager seemed to be able to get them to do that To me they looked very sheepish at the end of the game. Almost embarrassed that they had turned in a performance like that and played those tactics. I didn’t even see Moore acknowledge the fans, if he was confident in his tactics and really did feel Town were unlucky he wouldn’t have had a problem coming over. Only one who deserved the applause was Thomas.
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Nov 11, 2023 21:55:53 GMT 1
Looking forward to seeing what Moore produces after another international break, we got worse after the other one. Having him replace Warnock was idiotic.
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Post by goodbet on Nov 11, 2023 22:00:03 GMT 1
Hoyle didn't get rid of 18 players and the best manager available for the situation and only bring 4 in. Out of the 18 players, I would say only Hungbo could have come into this team and contributed. Lowton Knockaert Waghorn Jordan Smith All shite loans, none would do any better. Camara, possibly. Bilokapic wouldn't have played and we replaced with Maxwell. Crichlow wasn't good enough and wouldn't have played. Mahoney - anything need to be said? Simpson and Phillips - never going to be good enough. Rhodes- fair enough, scoring in League 1, but he hasn't done anything in his 2nd spell here. High and Rowe, not good enough. Ayina and Brodie Spencer, needed the loan spells, would they have played? Spencer maybe over Edwards. So out of the 18... For a stronger bench you would have to say maybe 3 of them. The other 15, club did the correct thing. . More than 18 players left the club when compared to the end of last season. We would have had a stronger bench at the very least and maybe the clown lin charge would feel brave enough to use then in good time. After loosing so many players we brought in a reserve keeper a fat full back a player that plays fore himself not the team and I can't remember the other, remarkable!
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 22:06:05 GMT 1
If Hodgkinson had the required funds, Hoyle would never had to step back in. They're both to blame, but Hodgkinson gets far too much of an easy ride from Town fans. Hodgkinson received death threats and threats of physical violence against his family that prevented them attending. He has suffered serious health issues since having to step down. I don't think it's fair to say he gets an easy ride. Every owner has had death threats. Not excusing it, but it's not exclusive to him. Sad to hear of his struggles, sincerely hope he's alright and coming through it.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 11, 2023 22:07:56 GMT 1
And yet he's still done fuck all with them. And never will. Not sure. I'd consider uniting a fan base, playing good football and being top seven as pretty decent Good football 😂
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Post by sonny on Nov 11, 2023 22:10:52 GMT 1
The players' confidence and self-esteem must be rock bottom. They have a manager who is effectively telling them they cannot compete on equal terms with their opponents. Today is not why they became footballers.
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Post by JG Mellor on Nov 11, 2023 22:12:15 GMT 1
Anyone know if Moore did his disappearance act again down the tunnel at the final whistle without acknowledging the town fans like at Elland road. No he applauded the supporters and also sorted a lift home for two fans who missed their coach back. Carry on slagging him off if it makes you feel better but grow some balls and be a bigger person Don't know what they're paying you fella, but have some self respect.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 11, 2023 22:15:57 GMT 1
If Hodgkinson had the required funds, Hoyle would never had to step back in. They're both to blame, but Hodgkinson gets far too much of an easy ride from Town fans. Hodgkinson received death threats and threats of physical violence against his family that prevented them attending. He has suffered serious health issues since having to step down. I don't think it's fair to say he gets an easy ride. Sorry to say that the anger, vitriol and hatred has pushed me to the edge of giving it all up. It feels damaging to my health when I am trying to look for positives. I feel blessed and grateful bit maybe time to accept that DATM is unhealthy
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Post by belizian on Nov 11, 2023 22:16:22 GMT 1
I thought the 6 defenders played really quite well. Our main weakness was Wiles who added nothing at all to the game. How he played out the 99 minutes whilst supposedly injured (according to some?) and with better players sat on the bench surprised me.
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