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Post by Moooooy on Nov 25, 2023 20:35:53 GMT 1
First half we were very poor, allowed Southampton to dictate the game and they deservedly took the lead. 2nd half was far better, we created much better openings but our lack of quality in the final 3rd nearly cost us a point. Thankfully Jackson’s cross flew in and we got the point our 2nd half effort deserved. Hopefully that 2nd half will give Moore the confidence to allow us to play on the front foot going forward.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 25, 2023 20:37:14 GMT 1
Jackson is going to be a class player for us. Him and Headley played very well, we have two real talents on our hands there I think who will only get better. Thought that was a great point against a very good side. Second half I thought we outplayed them and with better finishing should have won. I have never known as poor an atmosphere as that in all the years of following town. Start of the second half you could hear a pin drop and the booing at half time was absolutely uncalled for. Thought fans were shit today, atmosphere flat as a fart, which I can understand, the chants of 'you don't know what you're doing', no matter how small, aimed at Moore were bang out of order in relation to Nakayama's introduction for Harrat and the OTT booing at half time, again which I can understand but not sure it was that bad. Even when we were playing reasonsbley well the crowd didn't muster anything.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 25, 2023 20:37:26 GMT 1
A draw and a dominant performance against a Southampton side with a squad value of £100m+ vs ours at £4.50 and a bag of Quavers, and shithouse fans are still complaining. You predicted we'd get dicked 4-0 or 5-0 prior to the game, and still find stuff to whinge about. Get back to your depressing loveless marriages. I liked what I saw the 2nd half. But please explain you're definition of dominant? If that was a dominant performance, then the bar is really really low.
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Post by tockyterrier on Nov 25, 2023 20:38:05 GMT 1
A “dominant” performance? Not sure about that. We were better in the second half no doubt and deserved the draw but we scored from a cross come shot so a little fortunate there and our possession stats were once again really poor. Said we’d lose before a ball was kicked, although not necessarily heavily, so I’m delighted we got the draw. Need to build on this up at Sunderland next week though. I may have been a bit giddy using the term 'dominant', however, it was surely a well-deserved point. I don't think we're gonna be winning any possession wars any time soon because we're not very good at playing football. Defending in numbers and attacking on the counter is our best chance at getting points, I think DM is realising that now. which is Warnock realised, and told us we'd get dubbed if we went gung ho in this league with this squad. But for some reason Moore there are pmenry seem to have forgotten that and insist Moore is shit because we are not playing three up front when we don't even have a striker..
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 25, 2023 20:39:52 GMT 1
A draw and a dominant performance against a Southampton side with a squad value of £100m+ vs ours at £4.50 and a bag of Quavers, and shithouse fans are still complaining. You predicted we'd get dicked 4-0 or 5-0 prior to the game, and still find stuff to whinge about. Get back to your depressing loveless marriages. I liked what I saw the 2nd half. But please explain you're definition of dominant? If that was a dominant performance, then the bar is really really low. That's because the bar IS really really low.
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Post by Big Jim on Nov 25, 2023 20:40:40 GMT 1
A draw and a dominant performance against a Southampton side with a squad value of £100m+ vs ours at £4.50 and a bag of Quavers, and shithouse fans are still complaining. You predicted we'd get dicked 4-0 or 5-0 prior to the game, and still find stuff to whinge about. Get back to your depressing loveless marriages. I liked what I saw the 2nd half. But please explain you're definition of dominant? If that was a dominant performance, then the bar is really really low. Dominant was the wrong adjective, and it's hard to back it up with 23% possession 😂 We put them under pressure, and I think we had the best chances, and it was way more than I expected from this afternoon. Whilst others might say "we were shite in the first half" or "we got lucky" etc. For me, it's a very promising performance, and I've not gone home disappointed.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 25, 2023 20:45:23 GMT 1
I liked what I saw the 2nd half. But please explain you're definition of dominant? If that was a dominant performance, then the bar is really really low. Dominant was the wrong adjective, and it's hard to back it up with 23% possession 😂 We put them under pressure, and I think we had the best chances, and it was way more than I expected from this afternoon. Whilst others might say "we were shite in the first half" or "we got lucky" etc. For me, it's a very promising performance, and I've not gone home disappointed. It was very carbon copy of Coventry away.
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 25, 2023 20:46:29 GMT 1
To me that was a very Warnock type performance. Keep it tight in the first half, then go for it in the second half. NW did that a number of times in his games at the end of last season and got a lot of points and praise for it……DM gets criticised for it……
Had it not been for Helik switching off and being on the back foot, we’d have gone in 0-0 at half time. And we’d had chances. JK had a couple of opportunities to shoot and didn’t. And he delayed his pass to Headley. Play that through ball a couple of seconds sooner and JH is through on goal.
The sub of Yuta for Harratt made perfect sense, but as usual loads just waiting to boo and criticise without giving a seconds thought to what was happening. Chap next to me was having a go, when i explained that Koroma was going to play up top, Headley further forward and Yuta at left back, he immediately stopped complaining and said “Oh yeah”. Followed by “Koroma’s best position is up top and Headley is better further forward”… But had spent 30 seconds slagging the decision off.
Too many fans currently too quick to boo, criticise and have a go.
Overall a good point and a point closer to the goal of this season. Survival. Which was the goal all along.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Nov 25, 2023 20:47:59 GMT 1
I liked what I saw the 2nd half. But please explain you're definition of dominant? If that was a dominant performance, then the bar is really really low. That's because the bar IS really really low. Your mate Carlos did okay this evening. Talk shite you lad.
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Post by rubicon on Nov 25, 2023 20:56:40 GMT 1
Dominant? What exactly does it and possession imply? Leicester won a Premier League title, very rarely if memory serves me well having much possession. I’m not defending Town at the mo, because it’s boring crap, but you can have poor possession and be 1-0 down at half time, still win 4-1 and excite fans. Boro at home last season. The stats would have still been shit, but Town were more like Leicester that day.
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Post by Jimuano on Nov 25, 2023 20:58:28 GMT 1
That performance was very Warnock-esque today I felt.
Mostly steady in the first half if not dicing with death a touch, and lucky not to concede before we did.
Second half give it some, some passion and grit, plenty of chances created and a deserved goal and point for the efforts.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 25, 2023 20:58:59 GMT 1
That's because the bar IS really really low. Your mate Carlos did okay this evening. Talk shite you lad. If you say so 👍 Do you feel better now you've had a go at me?
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Post by Jimuano on Nov 25, 2023 21:00:33 GMT 1
Dominant? What exactly does it and possession imply? Leicester won a Premier League title, very rarely if memory serves me well having much possession. I’m not defending Town at the mo, because it’s boring crap, but you can have poor possession and be 1-0 down at half time, still win 4-1 and excite fans in. Boro at home last season. The stats would have still been shit, but Town were more like Leicester that day. At times when Southampton were in possession and passing it around the back and midfield,.it looked as though at any minute we'd pounce and get on the front foot, and we did this quite a bit.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 25, 2023 21:07:09 GMT 1
Southampton taking that winger off because he dribbled around his own box bit them on the arse. He was their best player and they missed him a lot. Very petty from their manager/coaches to try and make an example of him If you mean the lad on the left, he should have been sent off anyway. That ref must've been given a season pass to the Isle of Wight on Red Funnel Ferries.
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Post by ACW on Nov 25, 2023 21:11:18 GMT 1
Dominant? What exactly does it and possession imply? Leicester won a Premier League title, very rarely if memory serves me well having much possession. I’m not defending Town at the mo, because it’s boring crap, but you can have poor possession and be 1-0 down at half time, still win 4-1 and excite fans. Boro at home last season. The stats would have still been shit, but Town were more like Leicester that day. Possession does not equal dominance. Recent England performances have shown that. For a team to 'dominate' their opponent, they need to be seen to be far more effective at both ends of the pitch. They need to be creating more chances than the opposition. This can happen even if they have far less possession. Although it sounds like Town deserved their point today, it would be very hard to argue they 'dominated' their opponent in any way.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Nov 25, 2023 21:11:36 GMT 1
Your mate Carlos did okay this evening. Talk shite you lad. If you say so 👍 Do you feel better now you've had a go at me? Nope, but the sooner you realise he is a good manager the better for your agenda against him. We shouldn't have let him go & backed him. He went because DH wouldn't do that & wanted the 10 mil or so back from player's. It's not rocket science?
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 25, 2023 21:14:21 GMT 1
If you say so 👍 Do you feel better now you've had a go at me? Nope, but the sooner you realise he is a good manager the better for your agenda against him. We shouldn't have let him go & backed him. He went because DH wouldn't do that & wanted the 10 mil or so back from player's. It's not rocket science? I've no interest in the managers of other teams. And also fail to see the relevance of your post to the Town vs. Southampton match. But, if having a go at me unprovoked makes you feel better, then no problem at all 👍
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Post by space hardware on Nov 25, 2023 21:14:37 GMT 1
A decent point in the end, but this is going to be one hell of a long season of struggle.
How the fuck has the squad been allowed to become so thin? Did the hierarchy think that the first eleven would stay fit all season?
Not filling the bench again is an utter disgrace, whether that's Moore making a point or not.
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Post by mickh on Nov 25, 2023 21:19:58 GMT 1
We maintained the distance between us and Rotherham and moved one more point clear of Sheff W and QPR, but the gap between us and those above us grew. So what ?
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Post by mickh on Nov 25, 2023 21:20:19 GMT 1
A draw and a dominant performance against a Southampton side with a squad value of £100m+ vs ours at £4.50 and a bag of Quavers, and shithouse fans are still complaining. You predicted we'd get dicked 4-0 or 5-0 prior to the game, and still find stuff to whinge about. Get back to your depressing loveless marriages. Not sure the last line was needed but you're spot on with the rest
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Post by goodbet on Nov 25, 2023 21:20:19 GMT 1
We maintained the distance between us and Rotherham and moved one more point clear of Sheff W and QPR, but the gap between us and those above us grew. So what ? Just stating facts, do you have an issue with facts?
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Post by htfcterry on Nov 25, 2023 21:25:43 GMT 1
1 win in 11 and the happy clappers are out in force. Reminds me of the night of the Watford game. Southampton were off it - no doubt. Good result for us, but we need points on the board. The odd point here and there isn’t going to keep us up.
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Post by workshyfop on Nov 25, 2023 21:34:00 GMT 1
That's because the bar IS really really low. Your mate Carlos did okay this evening. Talk shite you lad. He knows absolutely nothing. Corberan is probably the best manager we’ll ever have. Terrible mistake in the history of the club not to back him. I’m starting to think he must be Hoyle.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Nov 25, 2023 21:35:12 GMT 1
Nope, but the sooner you realise he is a good manager the better for your agenda against him. We shouldn't have let him go & backed him. He went because DH wouldn't do that & wanted the 10 mil or so back from player's. It's not rocket science? I've no interest in the managers of other teams. And also fail to see the relevance of your post to the Town vs. Southampton match. But, if having a go at me unprovoked makes you feel better, then no problem at all 👍 It does lad & that's a fact 👍🏻
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 25, 2023 21:39:11 GMT 1
Your mate Carlos did okay this evening. Talk shite you lad. He knows absolutely nothing. Corberan is probably the best manager we’ll ever have. Terrible mistake in the history of the club not to back him. I’m starting to think he must be Hoyle. The best manager we'll ever have? And you say I know nothing? Honest to God. Herbert Chapman won the First Division and F.A. Cup and you're saying Corberan is the best manager we'll ever have? How people like you have the brass neck to accuse me of knowing nothing is just beyond me.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 25, 2023 21:39:38 GMT 1
I've no interest in the managers of other teams. And also fail to see the relevance of your post to the Town vs. Southampton match. But, if having a go at me unprovoked makes you feel better, then no problem at all 👍 It does lad & that's a fact 👍🏻 How very big of you 👍 hiding behind your keyboard.
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Post by goodbet on Nov 25, 2023 21:44:12 GMT 1
Gentlemen please.
Carlos in no longer the manager and is not relevant to this thread, if you want to continue on about him please find somewhere else to it.
We won a point today when we all thought that we would be battered. We should be happy.
This may not make DM another Warnock but it was a better performance than we have seen previously, lets see if he can build on this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 21:51:34 GMT 1
At least Jackson scoring stopped everyone having to trawl through 26 pages as opposed to 13
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 25, 2023 21:54:43 GMT 1
I'll tell you what is putting me off watching town at the moment and it's not the manager, performances or owners. It's the constant negativity from certain sections of our fan base.
Negative towards the manager Negative towards the owner Negative towards the team Negative towards the results Negative towards anything the club try to do to improve supporter experience.
You know who you are. You are the ones who booed the team off at half time which was uncalled for. We weren't great but we weren't shit either, we coped well with a side worth probably 20 times more than ours.
Chanting at the manager for what was a sensible substitution. Nakayama played well.
The fan base is becoming a cess pool of constant negativity and it's ruining the experience for many supporters.
Nobody is happy with the way we are playing but those of us with more than one brain cell can see the situation we are in regarding injuries. Those of us with more than one brain cell can also see that there is absolutely fuck all right now we can do about it and that change has to come in January.
Another manager isn't suddenly going to turn Hudlin into Halland and isn't going to turn Koroma into Messi.
Maybe certain people should reflect on how constructive they are being and how much harm its possibly causing.
If you call yourself a supporter maybe reflect for a second on what that means.
Rant over
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Post by Dan on Nov 25, 2023 22:00:48 GMT 1
Well I enjoyed that. Losing Nicholls, Wiles and Ward to illness yesterday not ideal at all, but we’re doing the best with what we’ve got.
Plenty of blood pressure merchants out in force first half losing their absolute shit at a few backwards passes and a substitution which enabled Headley to move up the pitch.
Thought the first half was better than the recent 0-0’s/1-0. We limited Southampton to a shot outside the box that hit the post and then the goal right on HT. Difference today with Koroma back in the side is we actually were able to get the ball out and threaten them the other end now and again.
Was pleased to see Moore change it at half time though and have the back line sitting much further up the pitch along with the high press which forced numerous mistakes from them. Jackson was brilliant down that right hand side. I’m a big fan of his, big workrate, two footed and seems a good sort as well.
Moore has had a horrible start with results, injuries, illnesses and every sentence he says being scrutinised to the nth degree. Players are certainly still playing for him, hopefully a few wins are not far away and I’m sure he’ll start getting some backing from the stands as well.
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