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Post by Big Ern on Nov 26, 2023 21:34:06 GMT 1
You should have applied for the job. Here's an alternative scenario. DM says, 'You've been great in training lads and I've got more options today. I want us pressing high up the pitch from the first minute. I want relentless urgency and intensity'. It's a great effort but Southampton are at their most energetic and pick us off on counter attacks. We're 0-3 down at HT and the game is effectively over. We keep playing the same way and end up losing 1-4. Are you going to come on here and praise DM for being bold or are you going to join the howling majority who'll say how naive he was? As it was, the plan worked. Southampton looked frustrated with all their possession and so little to show for it. They noticeably tired as the second half went on and our pressing and urgency came at the right time. I say well played DM on this one Most people on here know I am one of the more positive and patient fans - however, will take more than one decent 45mins to start thinking DM is the messiah. Here’s another thought - does it have to be one or the other? Either be positive from the start or defend 18 yard line? Middle ground would be a start - nice to be a bit more on the front foot don’t you think? At home especially. I did enjoy the little dig though 🤣 forgot as a fan you can’t have an opinion without suggestion should apply for the job. The classic that all fans can’t have an opinion as not professionals. For what it is worth, I did play, coach and manage at semi-pro level - not pro but decent understanding of the game. IMO starting a game as all out defend is a high risk strategy - yes some games it will be 0-0 at HT but others, it will be 3-0 or worse (remember Cardiff a few weeks back?). Law of averages suggests that strategy ends up in more defeats than victories. The width of a post yesterday would have made the defensive approach seem less ‘successful’ perhaps? Remember it was Southampton not Real Madrid. Let’s not get carried away by a point - I was delighted to get something from the game so late, but is that how low our bar is now? I’d like to see us go for the win. Nobody more than me hopes this starts an upturn in results and performances, but I’d be lying if I said I was optimistic. Time will tell In the context of squad size, league position, injuries, wealth and talent at their disposal...compared to us they may aswell be Real Madrid. I think some people are deluded personally. Name a manager within our price range that would have gone at Southampton and picked up the win with the players we have at our disposal. Not many. The squad is painfully thin due to injuries and its utterly bonkers that people can't see this. |
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Nov 26, 2023 21:56:20 GMT 1
Most people on here know I am one of the more positive and patient fans - however, will take more than one decent 45mins to start thinking DM is the messiah. Here’s another thought - does it have to be one or the other? Either be positive from the start or defend 18 yard line? Middle ground would be a start - nice to be a bit more on the front foot don’t you think? At home especially. I did enjoy the little dig though 🤣 forgot as a fan you can’t have an opinion without suggestion should apply for the job. The classic that all fans can’t have an opinion as not professionals. For what it is worth, I did play, coach and manage at semi-pro level - not pro but decent understanding of the game. IMO starting a game as all out defend is a high risk strategy - yes some games it will be 0-0 at HT but others, it will be 3-0 or worse (remember Cardiff a few weeks back?). Law of averages suggests that strategy ends up in more defeats than victories. The width of a post yesterday would have made the defensive approach seem less ‘successful’ perhaps? Remember it was Southampton not Real Madrid. Let’s not get carried away by a point - I was delighted to get something from the game so late, but is that how low our bar is now? I’d like to see us go for the win. Nobody more than me hopes this starts an upturn in results and performances, but I’d be lying if I said I was optimistic. Time will tell Fair comments and fair play on enjoying the dig. Not sure who has said that DM is the messiah but I gave him some credit for yesterday. However, I enjoyed the dig. ATAW Fair play pal - all good banter - helps keep our chin up when the results aren’t great. 👍 Different opinions is how it should be. I’m always very respectful - never get personal against managers (or anyone for that matter - we are all grown-ups after all) DM seems like a really nice guy - I’d love to see him make a success of it. I’m doubtful and don’t rate him as a manager, but as long as he is town manager I will back him. Despite difficult circumstances, he has still had a poor start - no doubt about it. I’m sure he is trying his best but if things don’t improve, we need to replace him IMO. Not personal, just football. We all want the same thing - hopefully starting v Sunderland this week. UTT |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 26, 2023 22:01:22 GMT 1
Fair comments and fair play on enjoying the dig. Not sure who has said that DM is the messiah but I gave him some credit for yesterday. However, I enjoyed the dig. ATAW Fair play pal - all good banter - helps keep our chin up when the results aren’t great. 👍 Different opinions is how it should be. I’m always very respectful - never get personal against managers (or anyone for that matter - we are all grown-ups after all) DM seems like a really nice guy - I’d love to see him make a success of it. I’m doubtful and don’t rate him as a manager, but as long as he is town manager I will back him. Despite difficult circumstances, he has still had a poor start - no doubt about it. I’m sure he is trying his best but if things don’t improve, we need to replace him IMO. Not personal, just football. We all want the same thing - hopefully starting v Sunderland this week. UTT I can see why he has been cautious so far but it's a hard watch. Patience is required. Let's see what January brings but it's an awful time to buy. Respect |
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Post by royrace on Nov 27, 2023 0:40:41 GMT 1
Most people on here know I am one of the more positive and patient fans - however, will take more than one decent 45mins to start thinking DM is the messiah. Here’s another thought - does it have to be one or the other? Either be positive from the start or defend 18 yard line? Middle ground would be a start - nice to be a bit more on the front foot don’t you think? At home especially. I did enjoy the little dig though 🤣 forgot as a fan you can’t have an opinion without suggestion should apply for the job. The classic that all fans can’t have an opinion as not professionals. For what it is worth, I did play, coach and manage at semi-pro level - not pro but decent understanding of the game. IMO starting a game as all out defend is a high risk strategy - yes some games it will be 0-0 at HT but others, it will be 3-0 or worse (remember Cardiff a few weeks back?). Law of averages suggests that strategy ends up in more defeats than victories. The width of a post yesterday would have made the defensive approach seem less ‘successful’ perhaps? Remember it was Southampton not Real Madrid. Let’s not get carried away by a point - I was delighted to get something from the game so late, but is that how low our bar is now? I’d like to see us go for the win. Nobody more than me hopes this starts an upturn in results and performances, but I’d be lying if I said I was optimistic. Time will tell In the context of squad size, league position, injuries, wealth and talent at their disposal...compared to us they may aswell be Real Madrid. I think some people are deluded personally. Name a manager within our price range that would have gone at Southampton and picked up the win with the players we have at our disposal. Not many. The squad is painfully thin due to injuries and its utterly bonkers that people can't see this. Neil Warnock? We compete with teams like this by overachieving, producing a team greater than the sum of its parts and being very tactically astute. That's why appointing the right coach was key. We brushed aside the Southampton's of the division in the promotion season and matched them in the play off season and last season with Warnock. They actually looked very ropey at the back all game. We'd probably have beaten them reasonably comfortably with Warnock whilst having 30 percent possession. |
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Post by cyberman on Nov 27, 2023 8:33:23 GMT 1
How about we go 50 50 - first half keep the opposition down to 0-0 or we are losing 1-0 - then we get up and at e for the next 45.....at least then we can say they tried. Morale must be pretty low within the squad right now - getting a shoeing in any walk of life knocks your confidence. Half time team talk - "Right lads up and at em" seemed to have worked on Sat against a decent Saints side. We all know that there is quality in our Town side the hard part id getting that to shine at the moment but a good game plan of half time hold them - 2nd half go for it might be a good start.
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Post by irverino on Nov 27, 2023 8:39:44 GMT 1
When Towns nine man defence was breached on the stroke of half time then plan A went too, we could no longer sit back for the 2nd half to secure the point we were playing for & risked the Saints ripping us apart in moving up the pitch, they looked shell shocked as we took them on & probably deserved the fortunate equaliser......Back to plan A on Wednesday, but beware Mackems, Terriers can bite if let off the leash.
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Nov 27, 2023 9:14:25 GMT 1
In the context of squad size, league position, injuries, wealth and talent at their disposal...compared to us they may aswell be Real Madrid. I think some people are deluded personally. Name a manager within our price range that would have gone at Southampton and picked up the win with the players we have at our disposal. Not many. The squad is painfully thin due to injuries and its utterly bonkers that people can't see this. Neil Warnock? We compete with teams like this by overachieving, producing a team greater than the sum of its parts and being very tactically astute. That's why appointing the right coach was key. We brushed aside the Southampton's of the division in the promotion season and matched them in the play off season and last season with Warnock. They actually looked very ropey at the back all game. We'd probably have beaten them reasonably comfortably with Warnock whilst having 30 percent possession. Spot on - with the group of players we have - it is one of those situations where the manager can have a huge impact on the team and results. Many said the squad last season was poor too - below is form table for last 15 matches of last season. Overachieving is possible with the right leader.  |
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Post by westislandterrier on Nov 28, 2023 0:12:42 GMT 1
That was a VERY WELCOME point at The Weekend there and well done to Darren and the lads on securing it !
Disappointing at the timing of The Southampton goal of course but to come back was good indeed... 👍
And a nice feeling getting the late equaliser as well as opposed to the crushing feeling at the end of The Hull City game ☹️
Double Whisky it was for me when the goal went in... 🥃 🥃
Very handy on a freezing cold but beautiful day in The West Island ! 😊
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