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Post by rothwellterrier on Nov 26, 2023 21:19:19 GMT 1
But people are using it. Do you think the club should abandon it all and if they are asked why just say “well, some posters on datm don’t want to use it so we’ve decided to close it down”.
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Post by space hardware on Nov 26, 2023 21:19:31 GMT 1
For not seeing something that can't be seen unless you're coming in from the opposite side to the town 🤔. There is nothing at the South Stand side of the ground, where the majority of fans will come in from. Agreed. Presume because of the coach car park and the car park behind the South Stand, it is tricky to get something there. The old driving range could be a great location for something. A driving range? 😁 |
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Post by royrace on Nov 27, 2023 10:02:35 GMT 1
The fan zone is massively improved from what it was at the start of the season (although admittedly that’s not saying much!). I went yesterday with my little lad to watch the end of City v Liverpool on the big screen and thought it was decent, no massive queue at the bar for once too Still a long way to go to match most other clubs at this level but it’s a step in the right direction at least Putting a match on and the happy hour thing is a great idea, its just a shame the product on the pitch is so poor at the moment meaning people aren't really encouraged to arrive early and make a day of it. Feels more like a chore at the moment! Also its obviously going to struggle to attract people in the winter months. |
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Post by royrace on Nov 27, 2023 10:07:01 GMT 1
Yeah you can 100% bring your own food and drink in to the ground. I questioned this a few weeks ago on another thread but have found out you definitely can Weirdly you're not allowed to take a Costa coffee in, warm liquid inside a paper cup must be classed as a dangerous weapon. You can buy a piping hot cup of brown liquid in the ground though, its definitely not coffee but its hot and comes in a paper cup same as Costa. Not sure about the logic behind that but pretty sure there isn't any. They'd probably do well selling proper coffee in the ground from a separate mobile outlet, especially in this weather. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 27, 2023 10:38:51 GMT 1
Yeah you can 100% bring your own food and drink in to the ground. I questioned this a few weeks ago on another thread but have found out you definitely can Weirdly you're not allowed to take a Costa coffee in, warm liquid inside a paper cup must be classed as a dangerous weapon. You can buy a piping hot cup of brown liquid in the ground though, it’s definitely not coffee but it’s hot and comes in a paper cup same as Costa. Not sure about the logic behind that but pretty sure there isn't any. They'd probably do well selling proper coffee in the ground from a separate mobile outlet, especially in this weather. I know mate it’s ridiculous. A coffee in a paper cup with the word Costa on it is not allowed but the same drink in a steel flask is ok. |
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Post by reverendstarbuck on Nov 27, 2023 10:50:35 GMT 1
It amazes me that any of this is an issue, seriously? I never buy food there, I'm not interested in the music as whatever they play it won't be to my personal taste, I never attend a fan zone. The only thing that concerns me is the on field business. English/European sports culture is not the same as American sports culture, the sooner they realise this the better. Who are you speaking for there, Art? You want them to bin it off because you'll never use it? What about the folk who do/will? If it doesn't make enough money to be viable, they'll shut it down. Until then, just ignore it mate if it bothers you so much. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Nov 27, 2023 11:31:45 GMT 1
The fan zone is massively improved from what it was at the start of the season (although admittedly that’s not saying much!). I went yesterday with my little lad to watch the end of City v Liverpool on the big screen and thought it was decent, no massive queue at the bar for once too Still a long way to go to match most other clubs at this level but it’s a step in the right direction at least Putting a match on and the happy hour thing is a great idea, its just a shame the product on the pitch is so poor at the moment meaning people aren't really encouraged to arrive early and make a day of it. Feels more like a chore at the moment! Also its obviously going to struggle to attract people in the winter months. Yes. Performance on the pitch has a massive knock on effect on absolutely everything. And you are right, much more likely to attract more people when we can get back to being excited about watching the match beforehand. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 27, 2023 13:10:57 GMT 1
It amazes me that any of this is an issue, seriously? I never buy food there, I'm not interested in the music as whatever they play it won't be to my personal taste, I never attend a fan zone. The only thing that concerns me is the on field business. English/European sports culture is not the same as American sports culture, the sooner they realise this the better. Who are you speaking for there, Art? You want them to bin it off because you'll never use it? What about the folk who do/will? If it doesn't make enough money to be viable, they'll shut it down. Until then, just ignore it mate if it bothers you so much. I do ignore by not participating in any in these things. Why anyone wants by and consume overpriced shit food and crap beer us beyond me. I mean do people usually eat pies at 3pm on a Tuesday afternoon like some do on a Saturday? Why any of this is even a consideration when attending a game I have no idea, its totally lost on me. You go to a game to watch a football match. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 27, 2023 13:42:34 GMT 1
Yeah you can 100% bring your own food and drink in to the ground. I questioned this a few weeks ago on another thread but have found out you definitely can Weirdly you're not allowed to take a Costa coffee in, warm liquid inside a paper cup must be classed as a dangerous weapon. You can buy a piping hot cup of brown liquid in the ground though, its definitely not coffee but its hot and comes in a paper cup same as Costa. Not sure about the logic behind that but pretty sure there isn't any. They'd probably do well selling proper coffee in the ground from a separate mobile outlet, especially in this weather. I took a Costa in the last night game. No questions asked by anyone. |
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Post by royrace on Nov 27, 2023 13:44:49 GMT 1
Weirdly you're not allowed to take a Costa coffee in, warm liquid inside a paper cup must be classed as a dangerous weapon. You can buy a piping hot cup of brown liquid in the ground though, its definitely not coffee but its hot and comes in a paper cup same as Costa. Not sure about the logic behind that but pretty sure there isn't any. They'd probably do well selling proper coffee in the ground from a separate mobile outlet, especially in this weather. I took a Costa in the last night game. No questions asked by anyone. Either changed the rules or more likely just inconsistent. Problem is it's a bit late if you've already bought one and can't get in with it. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 27, 2023 14:50:14 GMT 1
Who are you speaking for there, Art? You want them to bin it off because you'll never use it? What about the folk who do/will? If it doesn't make enough money to be viable, they'll shut it down. Until then, just ignore it mate if it bothers you so much. I do ignore by not participating in any in these things. Why anyone wants by and consume overpriced shit food and crap beer us beyond me. I mean do people usually eat pies at 3pm on a Tuesday afternoon like some do on a Saturday? Why any of this is even a consideration when attending a game I have no idea, it’s totally lost on me. You go to a game to watch a football match. We’ve done this rodeo before. Why would anyone buy drink or food at the cinema, at a shopping centre, at a gig, garden centre, going for a walk round Rother Valley….people do Art. Football is no different. People are so stuck in the past. Don’t like change. It’s a good thing. It’s good for the club. It’s good for the kids. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Nov 27, 2023 15:11:25 GMT 1
Who are you speaking for there, Art? You want them to bin it off because you'll never use it? What about the folk who do/will? If it doesn't make enough money to be viable, they'll shut it down. Until then, just ignore it mate if it bothers you so much. I do ignore by not participating in any in these things. Why anyone wants by and consume overpriced shit food and crap beer us beyond me. I mean do people usually eat pies at 3pm on a Tuesday afternoon like some do on a Saturday? Why any of this is even a consideration when attending a game I have no idea, its totally lost on me. You go to a game to watch a football match. I don't eat or drink in the stadium but literally thousands do, the kiosks are rammed at halftime. That's who they're catering to. |
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Post by shadwelljim on Nov 27, 2023 15:24:55 GMT 1
As has been said before, not ev1 lives in Huddersfield, many travel from 10 or 11 a.m to get to the ground and get home at 7. According to Art they should restrain from eating or drinking!
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Post by paulmat on Nov 27, 2023 15:27:25 GMT 1
Just to provide a little bit of positivity, in the form of a good fan experience: I did Terrier 7s for my youngest daughter (turning 7 this week). www.htafc.com/news/2023/september/7s/For £25 we got: A shirt for my daughter presented to her by Terry the Terrier An adult and junior ticket £10 off voucher in the club shop when spending over £20. I'm already a season card holder with my older daughter, but the people I dealt with at the club were extremely helpful in arranging this all for me. I was able to pick any game, and chose the Southampton one. They arranged for the adult and junior ticket to be next to our existing season card seats in the Kilner Bank, my wife took the adult ticket (first match for 10+ years), I was also able to get £10 tickets for my Mum and Dad as part of the deal. My daughter really enjoyed her first game, and is very keen to go again (wants to know why we can't go to Sunderland on Wednesday night!), the £10 voucher got quickly spent, and we even managed to smuggle in a half eaten Subway sandwich. A positive experience, right from the first contact with the club about this, through to Ben Jackson's equaliser. FYI Justasmithers (some positive feedback for you to pass on for a change  ) |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Nov 27, 2023 15:27:49 GMT 1
As has been said before, not ev1 lives in Huddersfield, many travel from 10 or 11 a.m to get to the ground and get home at 7. According to Art they should restrain from eating or drinking! m That’s a very good point. It would be interesting to see the numbers of how many fans have to make decent length journeys to get to a home game. Traffic levels after the game would suggest quite a lot. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 27, 2023 15:27:51 GMT 1
As has been said before, not ev1 lives in Huddersfield, many travel from 10 or 11 a.m to get to the ground and get home at 7. According to Art they should restrain from eating or drinking! No, far from it but if you're actually coming from afar, then you factor in an meal break somewhere that serves decent quality nosh not that shite. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 27, 2023 15:31:14 GMT 1
I do ignore by not participating in any in these things. Why anyone wants by and consume overpriced shit food and crap beer us beyond me. I mean do people usually eat pies at 3pm on a Tuesday afternoon like some do on a Saturday? Why any of this is even a consideration when attending a game I have no idea, it’s totally lost on me. You go to a game to watch a football match. We’ve done this rodeo before. Why would anyone buy drink or food at the cinema, at a shopping centre, at a gig, garden centre, going for a walk round Rother Valley….people do Art. Football is no different. People are so stuck in the past. Don’t like change. It’s a good thing. It’s good for the club. It’s good for the kids. Yes but those surroundings are convivial to eating and drinking, a football match isn't. When I think about going to a Town game the first thing that springs to mind is the game not what crap pie I can throw down my neck washed down by some dish water lager. You're not telling me that the catering is keeping fans away over the relative dirge on the pitch? |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 27, 2023 16:46:02 GMT 1
We’ve done this rodeo before. Why would anyone buy drink or food at the cinema, at a shopping centre, at a gig, garden centre, going for a walk round Rother Valley….people do Art. Football is no different. People are so stuck in the past. Don’t like change. It’s a good thing. It’s good for the club. It’s good for the kids. Yes but those surroundings are convivial to eating and drinking, a football match isn't. When I think about going to a Town game the first thing that springs to mind is the game not what crap pie I can throw down my neck washed down by some dish water lager. You're not telling me that the catering is keeping fans away over the relative dirge on the pitch? You are trying to correlate the two things when they are totally separate aspects. Should all coffee shops and food shops shut down when a game is on? Should Costa shut its doors on a Saturday afternoon by the cinema? Of course not. What if I don’t want a coffee, what if I’m there at 2pm and want a pint. What if I want to spend £6 on a sarnie? Surely that’s my choice? Yes, you’ll say ‘you must be mad’, but end of the day it’s my choice. I’m sure you spend money on things I would deem a waste of money. Just because you don’t want to do that doesn’t mean no one else does. It was rammed on Saturday, granted it was City/Liverpool and it was a dry day. It will be dead or not open in winter no doubt. There’ll always be those who choose not to use it and that’s fair enough. Luckily there’s enough people who do use it which I hope keeps it going. |
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Post by twyford on Nov 27, 2023 17:36:52 GMT 1
Yes but those surroundings are convivial to eating and drinking, a football match isn't. When I think about going to a Town game the first thing that springs to mind is the game not what crap pie I can throw down my neck washed down by some dish water lager. You're not telling me that the catering is keeping fans away over the relative dirge on the pitch? You are trying to correlate the two things when they are totally separate aspects. Should all coffee shops and food shops shut down when a game is on? Should Costa shut its doors on a Saturday afternoon by the cinema? Of course not. What if I don’t want a coffee, what if I’m there at 2pm and want a pint. What if I want to spend £6 on a sarnie? Surely that’s my choice? Yes, you’ll say ‘you must be mad’, but end of the day it’s my choice. I’m sure you spend money on things I would deem a waste of money. Just because you don’t want to do that doesn’t mean no one else does. It was rammed on Saturday, granted it was City/Liverpool and it was a dry day. It will be dead or not open in winter no doubt. There’ll always be those who choose not to use it and that’s fair enough. Luckily there’s enough people who do use it which I hope keeps it going. We should all hope it keeps going - the more money that the club is able to raise from such sources then, in theory, the more money there is available to go to the cost of the playing squad or alternatively minimise the increase in ticket prices which is likely to come. |
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Post by twyford on Nov 27, 2023 17:44:35 GMT 1
As has been said before, not ev1 lives in Huddersfield, many travel from 10 or 11 a.m to get to the ground and get home at 7. According to Art they should restrain from eating or drinking! m That’s a very good point. It would be interesting to see the numbers of how many fans have to make decent length journeys to get to a home game. Traffic levels after the game would suggest quite a lot. approx 4 hours each way for me from the Reading area. Sometimes will eat a 'meal deal' in the car whilst travelling but other times will look to get something at or in the ground. I could get something in the town centre but would prefer my money to go towards Town. The outlets inside used to pay KSDL a rent and then keep all the takings. I don't know how the fan zone outlets work - are they independent but paying Town to operate there or is the club getting the full profit on sales? |
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Post by Wingman on Nov 27, 2023 17:49:12 GMT 1
Who are you speaking for there, Art? You want them to bin it off because you'll never use it? What about the folk who do/will? If it doesn't make enough money to be viable, they'll shut it down. Until then, just ignore it mate if it bothers you so much. I do ignore by not participating in any in these things. Why anyone wants by and consume overpriced shit food and crap beer us beyond me. I mean do people usually eat pies at 3pm on a Tuesday afternoon like some do on a Saturday? Why any of this is even a consideration when attending a game I have no idea, its totally lost on me. You go to a game to watch a football match. Income streams. The club have said they need to maximise revenue by whatever means they can. Sure, it’s overpriced, totally get that when compared to other clubs and they could look at that area, but if they were to stop offering food and drink, then other fans would be up in arms. You’ve made a choice, we hear you. Some fans make a choice to purchase at the ground, so the club should listen to them and try maximise their offerings to garner sales. When I go I don’t always have time to eat dinner beforehand so I do on occasion purchase a pie and drink, and I’m fairly local! For me, in the Winter months they need some form of heated shelter around the fanzone for those fans waiting outside, but then the Ropewalk would be a great addition as a Town fan pub as in indoor venue. After this may be make the Legends bar into more of a food outlet indoors pre-match? Lots of ideas, but some will take time. It’s a fine balancing act for KN and his team, trying to boost revenues, sort the stadium, whilst also navigating the on-field demands. |
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Post by rockwall on Nov 27, 2023 17:49:38 GMT 1
As has been said before, not ev1 lives in Huddersfield, many travel from 10 or 11 a.m to get to the ground and get home at 7. According to Art they should restrain from eating or drinking! Spot in. 4 hour round trip, hit the pop up bar and stalls for a bite to eat and a drink outside the ground. Then my half time brew! |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 27, 2023 19:16:00 GMT 1
I do ignore by not participating in any in these things. Why anyone wants by and consume overpriced shit food and crap beer us beyond me. I mean do people usually eat pies at 3pm on a Tuesday afternoon like some do on a Saturday? Why any of this is even a consideration when attending a game I have no idea, it’s totally lost on me. You go to a game to watch a football match. We’ve done this rodeo before. Why would anyone buy drink or food at the cinema, at a shopping centre, at a gig, garden centre, going for a walk round Rother Valley….people do Art. Football is no different. People are so stuck in the past. Don’t like change. It’s a good thing. It’s good for the club. It’s good for the kids. Why is making kids eat shit, overpriced food good for them ? |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 27, 2023 19:20:06 GMT 1
Just to provide a little bit of positivity, in the form of a good fan experience: I did Terrier 7s for my youngest daughter (turning 7 this week). www.htafc.com/news/2023/september/7s/For £25 we got: A shirt for my daughter presented to her by Terry the Terrier An adult and junior ticket £10 off voucher in the club shop when spending over £20. I'm already a season card holder with my older daughter, but the people I dealt with at the club were extremely helpful in arranging this all for me. I was able to pick any game, and chose the Southampton one. They arranged for the adult and junior ticket to be next to our existing season card seats in the Kilner Bank, my wife took the adult ticket (first match for 10+ years), I was also able to get £10 tickets for my Mum and Dad as part of the deal. My daughter really enjoyed her first game, and is very keen to go again (wants to know why we can't go to Sunderland on Wednesday night!), the £10 voucher got quickly spent, and we even managed to smuggle in a half eaten Subway sandwich. A positive experience, right from the first contact with the club about this, through to Ben Jackson's equaliser. FYI Justasmithers (some positive feedback for you to pass on for a change ) They've been doing that for years mate, both my daughters did that, one's 23 and the other's 21. Difference being when the eldest was 7 the egg chasers were involved too so you got a Town shirt snd a Giants one and tickets for both too. |
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Post by dalesterrier on Nov 27, 2023 19:20:35 GMT 1
Regarding this not being a European thing....go to Germany...at least one fan zone at every stadium and on a significant level too
I bring my 3 kids from Wensleydale and it forms a big part of the day
Good to see them pushing it more
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Post by reverendstarbuck on Nov 27, 2023 19:20:51 GMT 1
We’ve done this rodeo before. Why would anyone buy drink or food at the cinema, at a shopping centre, at a gig, garden centre, going for a walk round Rother Valley….people do Art. Football is no different. People are so stuck in the past. Don’t like change. It’s a good thing. It’s good for the club. It’s good for the kids. Why is making kids eat shit, overpriced food good for them ? Give the negativity a rest, eh? Nobody is making anybody do anything. As you well know. |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 27, 2023 19:26:48 GMT 1
Why is making kids eat shit, overpriced food good for them ? Give the negativity a rest, eh? Nobody is making anybody do anything. As you well know. Yeah, you're right. Everything is fucking amazing at this brilliant club now. Hallelujah !!!! I just wondered how it was "good for the kids" |
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Post by reverendstarbuck on Nov 27, 2023 19:41:05 GMT 1
Give the negativity a rest, eh? Nobody is making anybody do anything. As you well know. Yeah, you're right. Everything is fucking amazing at this brilliant club now. Hallelujah !!!! I just wondered how it was "good for the kids" Nobody is saying everything is OK. But why such hyperbole? Does it help? I've got a big problem with the club paying Danny Ward 10 grand a week (or whatever it is) for the next three years (or however long). I have no problem at all with the club giving fans the CHOICE to buy "shit, over-priced food". |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Nov 27, 2023 19:41:10 GMT 1
Give the negativity a rest, eh? Nobody is making anybody do anything. As you well know. Yeah, you're right. Everything is fucking amazing at this brilliant club now. Hallelujah !!!! I just wondered how it was "good for the kids" The food options at the fanzone have always looked pretty good to me to be fair (very decent burgers, Mexican etc). I’ve no idea about child nutrition like. |
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Post by monkbar on Nov 27, 2023 20:01:10 GMT 1
It's good for the kids as they like the atmosphere, my nephew who's 6 loves getting the players autographs.
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