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Post by willhudd on Nov 25, 2023 22:39:21 GMT 1
Have to say today I saw an organised team with a gameplan with players all fighting.
Players injured and not fit within a small squad is not easy for any manager.
Witnessed a bloke who should know better wanting to fight town fans after we equalised no hint of a celebration. It was almost like he was disappointed we equalised.
Booing the manager, chants against his subs without any knowledge about the injuries or fitness of the players was a disgrace.
We will have no chance if this carries on, there will be more fights amongst fans and an atmosphere that will send us down.
Today's effort did not deserve any abuse.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Nov 25, 2023 22:58:21 GMT 1
People around me in the south stand brought a lot of negative feeling into the ground. Booing from the start, complaining etc.
This situation is fucking shite but get behind the team and support them to get a result, or things will get worse. The last few matches we were a complete rabble, today we were at least well drilled and matched them physically and one on one.
The players didn’t choose to be in a threadbare squad. Plenty of young lads that need encouragement and confidence.
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Post by dezzly on Nov 25, 2023 23:10:00 GMT 1
Problem is people make up their mind about something very quickly and aren’t open enough to have it changed.So they rock up to the game with an idea of what something is and it doesn’t matter what happens before their actual eyes they won’t have it. Like I said on another thread it was a decent performance today. The booing of the sub was ridiculous in my opinion,striker goes off,only “striker” on bench came back to training maybe a couple of days ago so probably had realistically 20/25 minutes in him.Had a player already on the field who has played up front before and a lad playing left wing back who can move forwards as that type of player…it made sense. I then had people around me questioning why he took off koroma and Kasumu which again I thought was fairly obvious given how much football they have missed…🤷🏻
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Nov 25, 2023 23:43:22 GMT 1
There was some booing around me in Riverside Lower as well when Harratt went off to be replaced by Yuta( who I thought had a great game by the way) I think the boos were from either people who just turned up feeling negative or people who couldn’t see what was happening in the game. We needed shoring up. And it worked. A sound tactical move by the manager. The post above resonated with me. We have a depleted squad both in quantity and quality - but it’s not the players fault, actually, it’s not Darren Moore’s fault either. Nothing worse than booing your own team and then expecting a performance.
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Post by royrace on Nov 25, 2023 23:49:29 GMT 1
If we go down it will be nothing to do with the atmosphere! Least of my worries. Not surprising people are negative and pissed off. It's well earned.
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Post by stinkypete on Nov 26, 2023 0:02:08 GMT 1
If we go down it will be nothing to do with the atmosphere! Least of my worries. Not surprising people are negative and pissed off. It's well earned. Agree it is, but I think it’s poor when it appears some fans are half hoping we lose and play shit just to be proved ‘right’! If Warnock was in charge today there’d be no complaints. Some Fans have made their minds up on Moore and are still living in cloud cuckoo land thinking Warnock will come back if they keep moaning and wittering constantly. Pathetic really.
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Post by willo on Nov 26, 2023 1:23:58 GMT 1
If we go down it will be nothing to do with the atmosphere! Least of my worries. Not surprising people are negative and pissed off. It's well earned. Agree it is, but I think it’s poor when it appears some fans are half hoping we lose and play shit just to be proved ‘right’! If Warnock was in charge today there’d be no complaints. Some Fans have made their minds up on Moore and are still living in cloud cuckoo land thinking Warnock will come back if they keep moaning and wittering constantly. Pathetic really. I’m not sold on DM by any stretch but you have to give credit where it’s due today. I’m also not sure how long Moore will be in charge for but there’s not a hope Warnock is returning ever so folk may as well get over it. Some fans need to get a grip as the division between factions does no good whatsoever.
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Post by Towner47 on Nov 26, 2023 1:57:03 GMT 1
Stay behind DM Stay behind the team Stay behind the owner or STAY AWAY
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Post by Amigo on Nov 26, 2023 1:57:05 GMT 1
If we go down it will be nothing to do with the atmosphere! Least of my worries. Not surprising people are negative and pissed off. It's well earned. I get it I really do it's been shit to watch, but are "we" booing and being negative to the manager who actually did well today and you only have to look at our match day squad to see what he's working with, or the players who to be fair don't lack effort it's just quality, and I'm not sure lack of quality is actually their fault?
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Post by townrwe on Nov 26, 2023 2:18:36 GMT 1
No split in the fans... pretty much unanimous to get rid of the clown... 6 points in 10 games.. weeks ago I said he's not managing workload, like leaving hogg on at 4-0 down twice in a week.... hogg might not be injured but that lack of nounce and now we have an injury crisis. Its not co-incidence.
IN MY EYES, DARREN MOORE WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED AS THE MANAGER OF THE CLUB I SUPPORT. PERIOD.
GET RID.
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Post by tepidterrier on Nov 26, 2023 3:59:23 GMT 1
No split in the fans... pretty much unanimous to get rid of the clown... 6 points in 10 games.. weeks ago I said he's not managing workload, like leaving hogg on at 4-0 down twice in a week.... hogg might not be injured but that lack of nounce and now we have an injury crisis. Its not co-incidence. IN MY EYES, DARREN MOORE WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED AS THE MANAGER OF THE CLUB I SUPPORT. PERIOD. GET RID. you know when you can just smell the booze emanating from a post..
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Post by k1man999 on Nov 26, 2023 5:11:31 GMT 1
Agree it is, but I think it’s poor when it appears some fans are half hoping we lose and play shit just to be proved ‘right’! If Warnock was in charge today there’d be no complaints. Some Fans have made their minds up on Moore and are still living in cloud cuckoo land thinking Warnock will come back if they keep moaning and wittering constantly. Pathetic really. I’m not sold on DM by any stretch but you have to give credit where it’s due today. I’m also not sure how long Moore will be in charge for but there’s not a hope Warnock is returning ever so folk may as well get over it. Some fans need to get a grip as the division between factions does no good whatsoever. Again not DMs biggest fan however I'd not seen anything re injured players illness etc as on nights so not really had chance to look at owt just turned up to game,so some decisions seemed strange. However in the car the post match he gave interview with oggy which was his best yet in the way he explained the decisions and why they were made
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Post by Terry Jacko on Nov 26, 2023 7:04:42 GMT 1
some People have made their mind up on Moore , too early. Zero sign that the players not playing for him, keep the faith.
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Post by Terry Jacko on Nov 26, 2023 7:33:53 GMT 1
Problem is people make up their mind about something very quickly and aren’t open enough to have it changed.So they rock up to the game with an idea of what something is and it doesn’t matter what happens before their actual eyes they won’t have it. Like I said on another thread it was a decent performance today. The booing of the sub was ridiculous in my opinion,striker goes off,only “striker” on bench came back to training maybe a couple of days ago so probably had realistically 20/25 minutes in him.Had a player already on the field who has played up front before and a lad playing left wing back who can move forwards as that type of player…it made sense. I then had people around me questioning why he took off koroma and Kasumu which again I thought was fairly obvious given how much football they have missed…🤷🏻 hate quoting posts but above is right
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 26, 2023 8:23:45 GMT 1
A lot of Town fans showed why they pay to go watch football and not be paid to be involved in football today with the booing of the substitution, which changed the game in Towns favour.
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Post by duncfost01 on Nov 26, 2023 9:04:22 GMT 1
The negative attitude towards Moore isn’t going to help. We are so lacking in depth and quality and that’s not his fault. The injuries have been awful - but they have for a lot of clubs.
I’m sick of being in yet another relegation battle but we are where are. We either get behind the team or it will Undoubtedly get worse.
I saw some fight yesterday, but still alarmingly we don’t have a striker. I think in my 50 odd years of watching town it’s up there with the biggest mistakes the club has ever made.
I will back Moore as I don’t believe Nagle will do anything about it anyway.
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Post by Tinpot on Nov 26, 2023 9:18:36 GMT 1
No split in the fans... pretty much unanimous to get rid of the clown... 6 points in 10 games.. weeks ago I said he's not managing workload, like leaving hogg on at 4-0 down twice in a week.... hogg might not be injured but that lack of nounce and now we have an injury crisis. Its not co-incidence. IN MY EYES, DARREN MOORE WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED AS THE MANAGER OF THE CLUB I SUPPORT. PERIOD. GET RID. you know when you can just smell the booze emanating from a post.. Unfortunately I'm sufficiently familiar with his posts to suspect his insight would be no greater if he was 100% sober.
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Post by durhamterrier on Nov 26, 2023 9:32:55 GMT 1
Have to hold my hands up and say I was one of the ones baffled by the sub … but not vocally and can’t say I’ve ever contemplated booing my own team etc… my frustration , and probably many others too, was he was going too defensive again following ultra defensive performances v Watford and hull . I couldn’t fault the effort in the first half but the tactics felt really passive.
In hindsight the change worked and got to praise DM for that . We’d have all taken a point before the game. It allowed a more static back 5 and then gave Headley and Koroma more license to get forwards. I will say I didn’t like the way he switched Thomas and Headley around from an attacking perspective but appreciate it was probably more to do with their number 20.
His post match interview gave us an insight into how frustrated he is - probably for the first time . It’s good to hear he didn’t want to set up like that and moving into a spell of more winnable games it’d be nice to see us go for teams like we did in the second half . That’s the best I’ve seen us play in several months and refreshing to see us put pressure on a very good team and create opportunities.
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Post by dezzly on Nov 26, 2023 9:33:28 GMT 1
No split in the fans... pretty much unanimous to get rid of the clown... 6 points in 10 games.. weeks ago I said he's not managing workload, like leaving hogg on at 4-0 down twice in a week.... hogg might not be injured but that lack of nounce and now we have an injury crisis. Its not co-incidence. IN MY EYES, DARREN MOORE WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED AS THE MANAGER OF THE CLUB I SUPPORT. PERIOD. GET RID. Yet he brought off both Kasumu and koroma yesterday to manager their minutes as they haven’t played recently.Also didn’t chuck burgzorg on in the 18th minute for same reason. Of the injured list yesterday rudoni was a contact injury,Turton and jones were already injured,ward was injured when he arrived and was Ill yesterday.Nicholls I wouldn’t imagine you can put down to over working from the manager…he’s a goalkeeper.So that leaves ruffels,wiles and Hudlin.Hudlin you can’t really say overworked or not managed..he’s played twice I think.Ruffels he featured 3 times up to sheff Wednesday and was subbed off in 2 of those 3. Wiles is maybe the only one out of the injured you could say has played a lot of minutes since Moore came in. Iv absolutely no issue with you not been a fan of him and even wanting him gone,that’s your opinion and the results don’t make a strong case for keeping him,but don’t be concocting stuff that’s just pretty much nonsense to backup your opinion,just stick to the facts.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 26, 2023 9:42:46 GMT 1
Fans need to separate the anger at the club and the previous regime fron the team on match day and get behind the team. I went yesterday expected to get tanked 4 nowt but at no point did I boo or not get behind the team. Thought the atmosphere was shite yesterday. We're all pissed off with the situation but getting on the players back and creating a toxic atmosphere on matchday is not what's needed. That said, I do get the frustration.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 26, 2023 9:52:37 GMT 1
No split in the fans... pretty much unanimous to get rid of the clown... 6 points in 10 games.. weeks ago I said he's not managing workload, like leaving hogg on at 4-0 down twice in a week.... hogg might not be injured but that lack of nounce and now we have an injury crisis. Its not co-incidence. IN MY EYES, DARREN MOORE WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED AS THE MANAGER OF THE CLUB I SUPPORT. PERIOD. GET RID. How's your head this morning?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2023 9:56:14 GMT 1
The negative attitude towards Moore isn’t going to help. We are so lacking in depth and quality and that’s not his fault. The injuries have been awful - but they have for a lot of clubs. I’m sick of being in yet another relegation battle but we are where are. We either get behind the team or it will Undoubtedly get worse. I saw some fight yesterday, but still alarmingly we don’t have a striker. I think in my 50 odd years of watching town it’s up there with the biggest mistakes the club has ever made. I will back Moore as I don’t believe Nagle will do anything about it anyway. Nagle is over for the whole of January so I understand and there will be good money made available. Whether we can attract relevant targets is another matter.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Nov 26, 2023 10:02:15 GMT 1
Results are the only thing that can turn it round. It’s ludicrous that we are in this position again. We are competing against Rotherham, whose chairman sacked their manager and then went on holiday. The bar is really low this season and we are still struggling to clear it.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 26, 2023 10:10:39 GMT 1
Results are the only thing that can turn it round. It’s ludicrous that we are in this position again. We are competing against Rotherham, whose chairman sacked their manager and then went on holiday. The bar is really low this season and we are still struggling to clear it. Ours used to go on holiday and then sack the manager once he arrived 🤣
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Post by bentley316 on Nov 26, 2023 10:25:50 GMT 1
I think i said it elsewhere, but Moore isnt a tactic manager. Hes a man manager. That rapport isnt immediately built with players. We've already seen a few players getting better over the last ten games.
Big if. But A few good transfers in January, some players getting fit/in form and we are in a good position.
Im more optimistic than i was after the Birmingham game thats for sure.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 26, 2023 10:28:18 GMT 1
No split in the fans... pretty much unanimous to get rid of the clown... 6 points in 10 games.. weeks ago I said he's not managing workload, like leaving hogg on at 4-0 down twice in a week.... hogg might not be injured but that lack of nounce and now we have an injury crisis. Its not co-incidence. IN MY EYES, DARREN MOORE WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED AS THE MANAGER OF THE CLUB I SUPPORT. PERIOD. GET RID. Yet he brought off both Kasumu and koroma yesterday to manager their minutes as they haven’t played recently.Also didn’t chuck burgzorg on in the 18th minute for same reason. Of the injured list yesterday rudoni was a contact injury,Turton and jones were already injured,ward was injured when he arrived and was Ill yesterday.Nicholls I wouldn’t imagine you can put down to over working from the manager…he’s a goalkeeper.So that leaves ruffels,wiles and Hudlin.Hudlin you can’t really say overworked or not managed..he’s played twice I think.Ruffels he featured 3 times up to sheff Wednesday and was subbed off in 2 of those 3. Wiles is maybe the only one out of the injured you could say has played a lot of minutes since Moore came in. Iv absolutely no issue with you not been a fan of him and even wanting him gone,that’s your opinion and the results don’t make a strong case for keeping him,but don’t be concocting stuff that’s just pretty much nonsense to backup your opinion,just stick to the facts. Well maybe he's realising he can't flog a small squad. But the injury crisis is his own making. Pre match presser that I caught before the game on radio Leeds, because I can't listen to them and he mentioned work? Work and working during the international break. I took the jumble of words as they had worked intensly during the break. Suicide in itself when your squad is at breaking point... then harratt pulls up with a muscle injury and same with Headley. Taking them off and only letting them play 30 minutes on the sole advixe of the medical dept, not hks own thoughts when nakayama has been away on international duty is box ticking, not management and understanding the situation. Nakayama will break next. 5 players out in 24 hours after 2 weeks of international break when workloads could have been managed. 5 players for the bench on Wednesday as it stands.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 26, 2023 10:36:04 GMT 1
No split in the fans... pretty much unanimous to get rid of the clown... 6 points in 10 games.. weeks ago I said he's not managing workload, like leaving hogg on at 4-0 down twice in a week.... hogg might not be injured but that lack of nounce and now we have an injury crisis. Its not co-incidence. IN MY EYES, DARREN MOORE WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED AS THE MANAGER OF THE CLUB I SUPPORT. PERIOD. GET RID. How's your head this morning? Fine, ive withdrawn my support of the manager, totally and any engagement other than watching some games ive already paid for via my season ticket. I refuse to join in any song that mentions Darren Moore, but will support all the players. My son is asking for an emley kit for Xmas and pleading with me to take him there rather than watching Booreball. In reality you lose the young fans first, then the casual fans and then those on the fence of having better things to do than blindly follow the rubbish served up. No-one can argue that 6 points out of 10 isn't good enough and is a sackable offence at any level.
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Post by dezzly on Nov 26, 2023 10:39:41 GMT 1
Yet he brought off both Kasumu and koroma yesterday to manager their minutes as they haven’t played recently.Also didn’t chuck burgzorg on in the 18th minute for same reason. Of the injured list yesterday rudoni was a contact injury,Turton and jones were already injured,ward was injured when he arrived and was Ill yesterday.Nicholls I wouldn’t imagine you can put down to over working from the manager…he’s a goalkeeper.So that leaves ruffels,wiles and Hudlin.Hudlin you can’t really say overworked or not managed..he’s played twice I think.Ruffels he featured 3 times up to sheff Wednesday and was subbed off in 2 of those 3. Wiles is maybe the only one out of the injured you could say has played a lot of minutes since Moore came in. Iv absolutely no issue with you not been a fan of him and even wanting him gone,that’s your opinion and the results don’t make a strong case for keeping him,but don’t be concocting stuff that’s just pretty much nonsense to backup your opinion,just stick to the facts. Well maybe he's realising he can't flog a small squad. But the injury crisis is his own making. Pre match presser that I caught before the game on radio Leeds, because I can't listen to them and he mentioned work? Work and working during the international break. I took the jumble of words as they had worked intensly during the break. Suicide in itself when your squad is at breaking point... then harratt pulls up with a muscle injury and same with Headley. Taking them off and only letting them play 30 minutes on the sole advixe of the medical dept, not hks own thoughts when nakayama has been away on international duty is box ticking, not management and understanding the situation. Nakayama will break next. 5 players out in 24 hours after 2 weeks of international break when workloads could have been managed. 5 players for the bench on Wednesday as it stands. 👍🏻 all I’ll say is was it not 3 players out in the 24 hours.1 illness,1 a keeper,but yeh it’s down to him flogging them.I could pick you up on other stuff but there’s a lovely brick wall I need to go bang my head on.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 26, 2023 10:45:21 GMT 1
Well maybe he's realising he can't flog a small squad. But the injury crisis is his own making. Pre match presser that I caught before the game on radio Leeds, because I can't listen to them and he mentioned work? Work and working during the international break. I took the jumble of words as they had worked intensly during the break. Suicide in itself when your squad is at breaking point... then harratt pulls up with a muscle injury and same with Headley. Taking them off and only letting them play 30 minutes on the sole advixe of the medical dept, not hks own thoughts when nakayama has been away on international duty is box ticking, not management and understanding the situation. Nakayama will break next. 5 players out in 24 hours after 2 weeks of international break when workloads could have been managed. 5 players for the bench on Wednesday as it stands. 👍🏻 all I’ll say is was it not 3 players out in the 24 hours.1 illness,1 a keeper,but yeh it’s down to him flogging them.I could pick you up on other stuff but there’s a lovely brick wall I need to go bang my head on. You could... but you can't. All training comes with risk... you mention contact injuries, they don't happen in the shower, why are we risking intense contact at this point? Illness is more virulent when your worn down. You can twist facts to your own agenda... but you can't argue with them.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 26, 2023 10:50:02 GMT 1
I think i said it elsewhere, but Moore isnt a tactic manager. Hes a man manager. That rapport isnt immediately built with players. We've already seen a few players getting better over the last ten games. Big if. But A few good transfers in January, some players getting fit/in form and we are in a good position. Im more optimistic than i was after the Birmingham game thats for sure. He's been bought in to play attacking football.... he's going to need to be a tactical mastermind.
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